Jesus fucking Christ….Iran Could Produce Nuclear Bomb in 16 Days, U.S. Says

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 12 2006 21:23 utc | 3

“Such single minded strategy will sink the US into a failed state.
Is that a plan?”
@B maybe. Who knows. I mean it wouldn’t be unreasonable for these greedheads to conclude that if the resources are running out and there is no more to be got, if you can’t boost supply the only alternative is to reduce demand.
The bit I don’t quite understand is the mad accumulation of wealth these types are indulging in at the moment. It doesn’t matter what that wealth is collected in, once demand has been reduced, everything will be
worth less/worthless.
Is there some part of this we don’t yet comprehend. I mean obviously ‘some’ other people will be needed to keep the greedheads in the manner to which they are accustomed but surely not even these morons know that little history.
That is when the spoilt elite reduces demand in this time honored fashion, it doesn’t really matter how much they have accumulated before the fact, once the shake-up is over what they ‘own’ is only theirs for as long as they can hold onto it.
The few others left alive will take what they need from the former elites whose power derived from the state of the world before the ruction.
After the ruction power will belong to whoever is the hungriest.
Iran is a good example of this, the Brits and French and Russians spent decades fighting over Persia and reduced the nation to chaos as they pushed forward the claims of each leader they ‘owned’. A simple equation, buy a bloke who has claims on the throne, help him into power and then he will help your nation. Trouble was all of these putative kings came from generations of elites. Someone in the dim and distant past had been a robber baron, but these types all regarded their position as being their due.
When the dust settled the new king, the shah, was a former russian corporal hired by one of the ‘leaders’ to be his personal bodyguard.
Staying alive is the most ‘valuable’ thing anyone can do. Keeping a low profile far more important than owning anything. Having too much wealth before the storm will just attract attention.
Really such thoughts are probably giving these quite limited thinkers too much credit.
They are wrestling with ‘the global balance sheet’ on a daily basis and rarely stick their heads over the parapet unless it is to re-assure themselves today’s take is gonna come in on target. They don’t do any situational analysis until things have started to go wrong in which case it is probably too late.
Yep the US is most certainly a ‘rogue state’ and has been for most of the time any of us have been on this planet.
The concern is though that people have been encouraged to imagine that all is required to do to ‘solve’ a problem is identify it. Cause once a problem has been identified one calls in the ‘experts’ then sits back and waits for the problem to be ‘fixed’.
This is not that sort of a problem. Entrusting anyone else to solve this mess means that large numbers of people must delegate their authority and power to him/her.
Even if the fixer upper started off with the best intentions, by the time he/she is able to fix Jack Shit he/she will become so corrupted by all of this power and authority that a real fix is improbable.
This one has to be fixed by people representing themself and their families for themself and their families.
However the population of the US are either a long way from being convinced of that option or feel themselves to be so disempowered that they can’t credibly convince themselves it could work.
That leaves only one other option and one that it seems many people have inwardly resigned themselves to. That is that the people outside the US will make the US and it’s acolytes ‘see reason’.
This is by far the worst option. Well it’s not as bad as large chunks of the rest of the world being nuked, but it’s up there.
Even if the people from outside begin with honourable intentions, if they are playing with other’s futures and not their own, they too will become corrupted by this.
Despite the bullshit slime oozing out of the TV set, all wars, invasions, situations that lead to one group of people having power over another group, end in cruelty, murder and mayhem.
When americans acknowledge this is when the US will cease being a rogue state.

Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 12 2006 21:59 utc | 5

billmon has 2 more iran posts

Posted by: annie | Apr 13 2006 1:30 utc | 7

Anyone besides me simply refuse to read a post w/no name?
Uncle, thank goddess they did “find” the passport. It told us immediately the whole deal was a false flag operation.

Posted by: jj | Apr 13 2006 1:49 utc | 9

If this cockpit recording were real it would have been drummed thru the media 24/7 at the time. It shows up now at the closing stage of a curious trial? If they were really competent it would have been found laying within a metre of the fireproof passport.

Posted by: Allen/Vancouver | Apr 13 2006 2:50 utc | 11

I was listening to Ed Schultz today and I guess he had Sy Hersh on yesterday. He replayed some of the show, a small clip. According to Hersh, plenty of elites are worried about Bushies belief God is working through him.
I think Bush is a nut and should be put in a strait jacket before he presses the wrong button. This is really over the top. Although, Cheney likely won’t let him play with the case or know the codes. He not grown up enough.

Posted by: jdp | Apr 13 2006 4:01 utc | 13

Good god.
So is 16 days (Uncle $ link to Bloomberg article) the new 45 minutes? I think we should be told.
Lest we forget: Tony Bliar, aka Prime Minister’s Iraq statement to Parliament, 24 September 2002:

The dossier we publish gives the answer. The reason is because his chemical, biological and nuclear weapons programme is not an historic leftover from 1998. The inspectors aren’t needed to clean up the old remains. His WMD programme is active, detailed and growing. The policy of containment is not working. The WMD programme is not shut down. It is up and running.
The dossier is based on the work of the British Joint Intelligence Committee. For over 60 years, beginning just prior to WWII, the JIC has provided intelligence assessments to British Prime Ministers. Normally its work is secret. Unusually, because it is important we explain our concerns over Saddam to the British people, we have decided to disclose these assessments. I am aware, of course, that people are going to have to take elements of this on the good faith of our intelligence services. But this is what they are telling me the British Prime Minister and my senior colleagues. The intelligence picture they paint is one accumulated over the past four years. It is extensive, detailed and authoritative.
It concludes that Iraq has chemical and biological weapons, that Saddam has continued to produce them, that he has existing and active military plans for the use of chemical and biological weapons, which could be activated within 45 minutes, including against his own Shia population; and that he is actively trying to acquire nuclear weapons capability.

Posted by: Dismal Science | Apr 13 2006 9:39 utc | 15