Could we have an easter/spring solstice/renewal thread?
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April 15, 2006
OT 06-33
Could we have an easter/spring solstice/renewal thread?
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Guardian: Britain took part in mock Iran invasion
Happy (War) Tax Day yall, (For those in xUS) Ostara, easter/spring solstice/renewal for those whom aren’t Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 15 2006 10:16 utc | 2 Good piece on Iraqi agriculture (or what is left thereof) Since it is easter weekend. Happy easter. On a religious front, has anyone watched Nation Geographic Channel about the Gospel of Judas. It’s fantastic and has the Fundies in a spin. Posted by: jdp | Apr 15 2006 13:47 utc | 4 Reminds me of how Procter & Gamble set up a distribution deal in the early 90’s with Moscow’s largest (and only) soap & detergent plant, which was then damaged by fire and unable to produce anything… Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 15 2006 13:48 utc | 5 At least some folks stick to common sense: Palestinians to get Russian aid
So much for B’s renewal-theme Easter post. Posted by: Perry Utwiller | Apr 15 2006 16:04 utc | 7 @jdp: I don’t put any more stock in the Gospel of Judas than I do in the other Gospels. Which is to say none. If you actually start reading about them, you will find that in early church history there were many such sects, each with its own distinct — and usually mutually exclusive — version of the truth. (After all, if you want to convince the gullible that they have to obey your will, then you’d better give them something they can’t get anywhere else. Designer drugs still being centuries away, they had to settle for mystic truths of suspect origin.) Even if you charitably assume that the beliefs of the eventual consensus Catholic Church, formalized in the Nicene Creed and held by even most Protestant churches, are rooted in fact and that the church took this stance genuinely out of concern for the souls of their believers, it still leaves you with the uncomfortable notion that many, perhaps most, early Christians priests were liars, presumably motivated by a desire for influence and wealth. And even that involves some big leaps of faith, the Council of Nicaea being what it was. (Only 3 out of every 5 bishops were able to attend!) Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Apr 15 2006 17:07 utc | 8 According to the Gospel of Judas, Jesus had a death wish: i.e., he was suicidal. People like that get institutionalized these days. And they based a religion on him? If I were forced to choose a major religion, I’d lean towards Islam, after all, Muhammed was a polygamist… Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 15 2006 17:39 utc | 9 billmon has another brilliant post up. get ready to lol Posted by: annie | Apr 15 2006 21:00 utc | 10 Young Jews Support Palestinian Rights, Challenge AIPAC and JCRC by Holding Seder Outside Their Offices Posted by: John Francis Lee | Apr 15 2006 22:30 utc | 11 Believe or not The Truth, the old testament actaully has rituals that stand for soemthing. The holy days meant soemthing. Jesus knew tha holy days and used the passover sacrifice day as the day of his death. This is the same day that the Israelists slaughtered the lamb and put the blood on the door post so the death angel would passover the Israelites while captive in Egypt and take or kill the Egyptians first born. Posted by: jdp | Apr 15 2006 23:20 utc | 12 @jdp: That’s not my point. I’m not arguing about the content of the document, I’m saying that it has no better or worse authority than any other Gospel, including the other Gnostic gospels, most of which (both canonical and Gnostic) contradict each other. It’s The Jesus Papers for the credulous of 300 AD. The content was written down just as long after the fact — or maybe even longer — as in the other gospels, and was only believed by a relatively small group. It only has meaning to historians and to people who are so bound up in a literal view of the canonical Bible that their little heads explode when they hear that (*gasp*) the Bible’s content has changed over time. The rest of us should stop trying to use it as though it were a factual account by an eyewitness. It isn’t. Neither are the other gospels. Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Apr 16 2006 1:08 utc | 13 The war against Iraq is as disastrous as it is unnecessary; perhaps in terms of it’s wisdom, purpose and motives, the worst war in American history. Our military men and women were not called to defend America but rather to attack Iraq. They were not called to die for, but rather to kill for, their country. What more unpatriotic thing could we have asked of our sons and daughters?” Posted by: remembereringgiap | Apr 16 2006 1:45 utc | 14 watch chavez call bush a coward, a liar, and much more. mejor cajones. Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2006 3:48 utc | 15 I’ve begun to think the wheels of the great hegemon would fly off like some old machine unable to move because of misfitting gears and ungreased zirks somewhere in south america, close to home. Posted by: slothrop | Apr 16 2006 4:18 utc | 16 this dude rocks too
Posted by: b real | Apr 16 2006 4:23 utc | 17 Interesting how three “attacks” on “faith” came out all at once: the Judas text; the “Jesus walked on FROZEN water” theory; and the “fossil” that disproves creation. All at once. Posted by: zeph | Apr 16 2006 4:46 utc | 18 Bird flu preperations:
— On Foo — Posted by: anna missed | Apr 16 2006 9:23 utc | 20 @anna missed – nice!
b, Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 16 2006 10:59 utc | 23 quote from b’s link Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2006 11:36 utc | 24 ~~~~~~~~~~~~H A P P Y B I R T H D A Y TO BEQ! ~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~ Posted by: fauxreal | Apr 16 2006 16:58 utc | 25 happy birthday beq!!!!! Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2006 17:28 utc | 27 And here is a birthday poem for beq, the artist: Posted by: fauxreal | Apr 16 2006 20:39 utc | 28 Wow, Hugo Chavez, just wow: “George W Bush, why don’t you go to Iraq to command your army. It’s easy to command an army from afar.” Posted by: Dismal Science | Apr 16 2006 21:55 utc | 29 Chief Clearing Brush, I like it, probably doesnt have the attention span to even clear brush for 6 hours straight. Posted by: anna missed | Apr 16 2006 23:09 utc | 30 billmon has another post up. a doozy, damn it’s good to have him back Posted by: annie | Apr 16 2006 23:58 utc | 32 Thank you all! I read the Easter Walk thread first and so you need to know [again] that this is also fauxreal’s birthday. Cosmic soul sister [attached at the hip 😉 ]. I’m woozy. Posted by: beq | Apr 17 2006 1:45 utc | 33 You people don’t understand anything. Posted by: Groucho | Apr 17 2006 3:32 utc | 35 I covet your 78s, anna missed. I must have broken some commandment in my regard for your treasure. Posted by: fauxreal | Apr 17 2006 4:15 utc | 36 Happy B-day to the resident Goddesses… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2006 7:07 utc | 37 Addendum: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2006 7:09 utc | 38 A (late) happy birthday beq and fauxreal!
Harbinger of things developing in the deadlocked new Iraqi government? From the LA Times: Posted by: anna missed | Apr 17 2006 8:25 utc | 40 uncle, did you know neil young has a new album coming out? Posted by: annie | Apr 17 2006 8:54 utc | 41 Okay, I like use to laugh at the conspiracy nuts as much as the next person…..but there was a post about some guy warning of a nuclear explosion in Texas City this weekend. This is the second time I have come across a story about nuking Texas. I was amused at the time, and wanted to revisit the story and re-read it in light of the following story( which is a different story )…..but the post is gone.
*meg·a·lo·ma·ni·a: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 17 2006 10:02 utc | 42 In the Moonie Times but a good overview of Afganistan, other stans Iran/q and Palestine/Israel:
Then Suicide Bomber Kills 8 in Tel Aviv
Is this translation to be disputed? Sounds pretty rational to me. I wonder where all those headlines come from that supposedly reflect his thinking. Posted by: ww | Apr 17 2006 17:35 utc | 44 can anyone here refresh me on the upcoming fallujaing of baghdad? for some reason i can’t seem to find those links. suppossed to be in september, we were discussing it. i’m only finding one article about it and its not the one i read here. Posted by: annie | Apr 17 2006 18:05 utc | 45 @ww – of course Ahmedinejad is rational. But some folks have interest in turning ouround his words so he looks anti-semite and insane. b, you can find a lot of stuff on Iran’s official news site. I suppose it is about as credible as any other state’s information service. IRNA Posted by: dan of steele | Apr 17 2006 19:14 utc | 48 Generals gathered in their masses Posted by: slothrop | Apr 17 2006 19:19 utc | 49 Iraq update: Posted by: anna missed | Apr 17 2006 19:20 utc | 50 Juxtaposition of two items from today’s BBC World Service schedule:
One’s perspective is everything. Posted by: PeeDee | Apr 17 2006 23:27 utc | 51 better not miss united 93:
cultural criticism as great as any ruskin or arcades. Posted by: slothrop | Apr 18 2006 0:42 utc | 52 ICC Article
Posted by: DM | Apr 18 2006 3:54 utc | 54 [errata: that’s meant to be ICH (Information Clearing House) – not “ICC”] Posted by: DM | Apr 18 2006 3:57 utc | 55 One may hope that this Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Apr 18 2006 4:59 utc | 56 Dershowitz answers Mearsheimer et al. and proves with his nefarious argumentation style exactly what he is refuting. Posted by: ww | Apr 18 2006 5:58 utc | 57 ‘5.5 Tons of Coke’ Planes Owner: Royal Sons, Tom Delay Appointee
Rip, Gary Web… Posted by: Anonymous | Apr 18 2006 8:38 utc | 58 …the Rosetta stone? pause, hahahahahahahahaha!
Okay, now that I have laughed myself silly, let me see if I have this right. A guy who is planning suicide thoughtfully packs a suitcase he expects he will never see again with all the evidence the FBI will need to figure out the crime if by some miracle that suitcase doesn’t get onto the plane that the suicide hijacker expects will perish in a huge ball of flame? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Apr 18 2006 8:53 utc | 59 @Uncle$cam Posted by: DM | Apr 18 2006 9:18 utc | 60 I was always amazed at the way the attackers always left a white van with copies of the Koran parket in the vicinity of almost every attack. I start to wonder if it wasn’t the same van each time. Posted by: ralphieboy | Apr 18 2006 11:01 utc | 61 There is nothing as ubiquitous as a white van, with or without the ladders. Remember the d.c. snipers? They found them in a mid-size sedan. Posted by: beq | Apr 18 2006 12:48 utc | 62 Need some assistance. Posted by: Groucho | Apr 18 2006 15:37 utc | 63 a couple reminders re the zawrqawi psyops revelation
counterpunch: The Zarqawi Gambit, Revisited Posted by: b real | Apr 18 2006 17:52 utc | 64 Now, wouldn’t that be a sight to see .. Posted by: DM | Apr 19 2006 3:18 utc | 65 embed links into a Word-type document Posted by: DM | Apr 19 2006 3:28 utc | 66 Groucho, DM has explained what to do. Posted by: jonku | Apr 19 2006 4:27 utc | 67 Okay, some news I haven’t seen mentioned:
Next, another website with an agenda has something for us about China and the U.S.:
Posted by: jonku | Apr 19 2006 4:37 utc | 68 In the original spirit of this thread, Spring renewal: Posted by: jonku | Apr 19 2006 4:49 utc | 69 |
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