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March 27, 2006
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The NYT (finally) discovers the Domning Streets Memos and has gotton its hand on an additional one from January 2003:
Guardian comment: You cannot be serious
b that’s a good point and Guardian is right! It was always so but somehow it looks that we discover those thing now suddenly… Posted by: vbo | Mar 27 2006 12:09 utc | 4 Just to remind you: Germans ‘cleverest in Europe’ 🙂 Haaretz: One racist nation
Our relationship with the “third” world is like a sexist pig’s relationship with women: First, he f*cks them, then he beats them, then he wants them out of his sight because they are so pitiful. And he certainly never wants to get caught paying child support for his actions. The world is suffering from ‘Battered Woman Syndrome.’ Posted by: Malooga | Mar 27 2006 20:20 utc | 9 @Malooga – the German press was more pro-Palestinian, but it is changing rapidly with the change of government here. This is funny: Did Rove spill the beans on Cheney? How will Ceney fight back? He WILL DO SO.
b, Posted by: ralphieboy | Mar 27 2006 20:59 utc | 12 @Bernhard: “the German press was more pro-Palestinian, but it is changing rapidly with the change of government here.” Posted by: Malooga | Mar 27 2006 22:34 utc | 13 What I meant is, how open is it to covering issues, similarly sensitive, that go against official German government policy? Moussaoui Says He Was Part of Plot to Attack White House
That guy is lying his ass off. This came in my email tonight. Perfect example of why Mexicans are not what we should be worrying about: Posted by: conchita | Mar 28 2006 3:33 utc | 16 Scientists study revived 1918 flu virus
This sends a shiver up my spine. Why is the Armed Forces involved in this research? Are they looking at weaponizing this? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 28 2006 5:09 utc | 18 Are they looking at weaponizing this? @Uncle $cam: Of course they are. While there are things which can be learned by recreating the virus which would be difficult, if not impossible, to learn otherwise, there is nothing militarily useful. I mean, we already know what the 1918 flu virus does to army-age people, how it was transmitted, and enough information about it to make plans about what to do in case of a similar disease. The question is: are they really stupid enough to actually try? I bet they are, and that’s what sends a shiver up my spine. Trying to use influenza as a weapon, according to the books I’ve read, would be like trying to rid your house of rats by filling it with scorpions. (And these aren’t ordinary scorpions, either — they’re scorpions who pull out tiny cell phones and invite in a bunch of poisonous spiders.) But the U.S. military’s record of tampering with really, really stupid ideas is long and consistent. Somewhere, without doubt, there’s a military lab with infected animals already, and if they’re even following obvious precautions we’re really lucky. (Go read Lab 257 by Michael Christopher Carroll if you aren’t paranoid yet.) Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Mar 28 2006 5:25 utc | 20 First they develop the virus. Then they develop a vaccine, turn the virus loose then charge $100,000 a shot for the vaccine. (Free of course for insiders.) Posted by: pb | Mar 28 2006 5:32 utc | 21 Of course b, I was being sarcastic and am suffering w/ the flu as I write this so I’m a bit off my game. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 28 2006 5:56 utc | 22 @pb: That would be a great plan, if flu were stable. It isn’t. There is pretty good reason to believe that the 1918 flu epidemic came in two distinct waves, the second one likely being a mutation of the first. People who had the first one (which was notably less fatal) did not have any extra immunity to the second one — there were people who got sick twice. That’s what I mean about the flu being a really stupid weapon. There are more people today than there were in 1918, and there are more large, dense cities with insufficient sanitation. Hence more likelihood of rapid spread, which means more chances for mutation. It wouldn’t even be like nuclear war, where someone has to fight back in order to make a first strike overtly dangerous. Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Mar 28 2006 6:14 utc | 23 @Bernhard Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 28 2006 7:20 utc | 24 Rebuilding America’s Defenses Posted by: annie | Mar 28 2006 7:41 utc | 25 @annie: Even if you limited an influenza virus to a particular genotype, it would still be incredibly dangerous to the population at large. Pretty much all viruses (virii?), storing their genes in RNA, have less stable genetic code than the rest of life, which uses DNA. (DNA has the double helix, which gives it extra structural integrity and, incidentally, provides some extra protection against copy errors.) But most really virulent viruses are extra-unstable; they spread so quickly because they reproduce quickly, and the faster a virus reproduces, the less likely the copies are to be accurate. The more virulent forms of flu make thousands of copies of themselves per cell infected. Think about that for a second. So: if you somehow tied a flu virus to a particular human genotype — something which I’m not at all sure is really feasible; even the PNAC people said “may”, remember, and I would imagine that it would be easier to do this with a retrovirus like AIDS — chances are good that the mechanism that did the tying would get mutated, itself, before long. A mutation could have almost any effect — it might make the virus totally ineffective, it might make the virus start infecting some other genotype, it might make the virus start infecting all other genotypes, or it might create new symptoms. (“Today, the WHO reported another outbreak of the eyeball-melting strain of human influenza virus.”) Like I said — the flu is just a really, really dumb choice for a weapon. It would be like tossing a match into a box full of bottle rockets; no matter how much you line them up ahead of time, you can be sure they would head in any one direction. Posted by: The Truth Gets Vicious When You Corner It | Mar 28 2006 8:14 utc | 26 A couple things from Juan Coles blog: Posted by: anna missed | Mar 28 2006 9:36 utc | 27 Simon: No…no…(searching for an excuse)…no…he’s just….he…he….he’s…he’s faking it! Posted by: DM | Mar 28 2006 10:05 utc | 28 @anna missed: Posted by: Malooga | Mar 28 2006 15:07 utc | 29 chomsky pens some thoughts on the recent study on the israeli lobby
Posted by: b real | Mar 28 2006 15:28 utc | 30 So Stanislaw Lem was alive just days ago? I always figured he was dead. Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Mar 28 2006 15:37 utc | 31 This is one area where Chomsky is not 100% correct, and he is taking an absolutist position, painting himself into an ideological corner, when the truth seems to me to be more relative. But it merits a much longer response. For those interested now, google Jeffrey Blankfort. He is a horrible writer (not an academic, but trying very hard), but his essential points have much merit. He debates Steven Zunes, taking Chomsky’s position, here at KPFA’s excellent show, “Voices of the Middle East and North Africa , on June 1st and 8th of 2005. Great 35 minutes of radio! Zunes actually advances the canard of anti-semitic backlash if we attack AIPAC! Posted by: Malooga | Mar 28 2006 16:12 utc | 32 The Left Coaster Anonymous Liberal has a real scoop:
Senators lying to SCOTUS to take away constitutional rights from prisoners. Let`s hope the judges get as upset as they should be. W/regards to Moussaoui’s recent odd behavior it might be interesting to note:
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 28 2006 19:23 utc | 35 U.S. Cuts Off Palestinian Water & Sewer Project
Posted by: b real | Mar 28 2006 19:25 utc | 36 I would like to suggest “Torture Live” as a brand name when using on witnesses in court:
Here’s a story that contains all the elements of the human condition. The stratification of even ‘revolutionary organizations’ which ostensibly exist to promote the rights of the common man. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 28 2006 23:25 utc | 39 The alarm bell went off for me when he said Richard Ried and himself were to pilot another plane into the white house. Posted by: anna missed | Mar 29 2006 1:40 utc | 41 It seems to be in the nature of all groups of humans to develop unspoken rituals which determine one’s status within a particular group. The resulting alienation of individuals causes that stratification get to the point where in their desperation to be accepted a situation develops where both the individual and the group blatantly risk a successful outcome of the group’s raison d’etre in a fight over social structure. Quite often the faux-pas that the ‘reject’ has made is beyond his/her real comprehension, because the faux pas has been to believe. Posted by: annie | Mar 29 2006 2:13 utc | 42 @malooga,
a bit reductionist, isn’t it?
chomsky has taken intellectuals to task for decades for this kind of dishonesty & apologetics for imperialism & state terror. you would think that any ideology that labels itself “realist” would be able to see clearly & cogently what role the u.s. holds in the world as reigning global hegemon, but apparently their blinders limit them to struggles over regional national security interests.
of course, it’s all the lobby’s fault. otherwise, we all know how benevolent the u.s. is in their policies throughout the rest of the planet (hell, even at home…). the jewish lobby is only complicating our real battle – the global war on islam…i mean AQ…i mean terror. Posted by: b real | Mar 29 2006 2:14 utc | 43 From Biklett’s 4:19:37 link: Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 29 2006 2:33 utc | 44 CITIZEN ACTION: Posted by: conchita | Mar 29 2006 2:34 utc | 45 @Monolycus: Posted by: Malooga | Mar 29 2006 2:59 utc | 46 @Malooga Posted by: Monolycus | Mar 29 2006 3:15 utc | 47 ok, ot. here in seattle everybody (and not just who’s anybody) knows who local dan savage is. his paper , the stranger is the local weekly rag. anyway… he’s selling Savage-designed, ready-to-order ITMFA buttons and lapel pins!
thought i’d share…in case you want to purchase. Posted by: annie | Mar 29 2006 3:39 utc | 48 On the March 23rd anniversary of the coup in Argentina, the “National Security Archives Posted by: fauxreal | Mar 29 2006 6:57 utc | 49 |
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