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February 1, 2006
Sleepless In Hamburg

Upps – did wake up at 2:40am. Very unusual for me. But then, it was in time to watch the SOTU speech.

Some lose points from my notes:

The event is much too much of show for my taste. Bush did look grey put energized and/or aggressive.

As Froomkin had predicted, a lot of "lead", leading", "leadership" talk.

Warnings on isolationism and protectionism were a major theme throughout the speech. Both are now part of the axis of evil.

"We excel ourselves in trade .." was a nice joke. But then – importing is trade and there the U.S. does excel.

Why do the Generals always clap with the repubs?

Iran is not a democracy, but Egypt is an example for democratic elections? Take that for reality. This was inconsistent with a point of culture-different forms of democracy made in the same part of that speech.

The NSA spying on Americans is now officially a terrorist surveillance program and all repub politicians gave standing applause to that line. That tells you what to expect from any hearing on the issue – exactly zero.

Cut 140 programs and lower taxes – nothing new here. But who is that guy who clapped hands when Bush asked for a line item veto?

Half through the speech, there was a serious screw up. So far Bush had done well. Then he mentioned that last years Social Security scam had NOT passed into law. The dems had much fun with that line – standing ovations!!! Thereafter Bush was nervous, spoke too fast and had lost some drive.

New initiatives on health care and energy, but no Mars flight. Who invented "zero emission coal plants"? C + O2 = CO2 – when did that change? A "research tax credit" is announced. Since when is research taxed?

Better fear cloning those "human-animal hybrids"!

The Gulf coast did get $85 billion says Bush. I wonder where that money went. New Orleans seams not to have seen much of it.

More money for aids programs is fine. But why is there a "waiting list for medicine" in the first place. I didn´t know that. If it is true it is a major scandal.

So far my spin of the speech. The overall impression was an aggressive but lame Bush. Some swagger in the beginning, but that was gone after the social security gaffe.

Maybe the speech will get him a temporary point or too in the polls. But I would not bet a dime on that.

Comments

I didn’t watch and don’t care to hear him. I’ll catch the newpaper tomorrow.

Posted by: jdp | Feb 1 2006 4:07 utc | 1

Offical transcript

Posted by: b | Feb 1 2006 4:09 utc | 2

I guess if you’re in Hamburg you can listen to him w/out 4 mos. supply of blood pressure medication handy. I couldn’t – and am in perfect health. His mere existence in that office is such an outrageous insult to us that I cannot stomach listening or watching him.
Hope you got back to sleep afterwards.
2-3 many screwups…
If he has the Court, what else matters?
But thanks b, that’s really sweet of you to post it. I’ll read it when I have a stronger stomach for the Nightmare.
There’s a new book, a MUST read coming out this spring written by a Sociologist. I’ll post the link later. He said that this Admin. has thrown us fully into the Dark Ages. (Gore Vidal discusses the work.) The key thing Gore noted in the excerpt that’s so Huge it escaped me is that These Monsters have Merged the State w/Religion & Torture. (He should have added & finance/Wall Street.)

Posted by: jj | Feb 1 2006 4:31 utc | 3

Shortshanks channels William Wallace:
1. We will choose to act confidently in pursuing the enemies of freedom
2. Every step toward freedom in the world makes our country safer
3. we will act boldly in freedom‘s cause.
4. the advance of freedom is the great story of our time.
5. the demands of justice, and the peace of this world, require their freedom
6. No one can deny the success of freedom
7. We love our freedom, and we will fight to keep it
8. in the cause of freedom
9. the hopeful alternative of political freedom
10. your right to choose your own future and win your own freedom
11. the spread of freedom and hope in troubled
12. America is always more secure when freedom is on the march.
13. lead this world toward freedom.
14. America is a great force for freedom
15. We will lead freedom’s advance
Sheehan wears a tee-shirt:
Sheehan, who was invited to attend the speech by Rep. Lynn Woolsey, D- Calif., was charged with demonstrating in the Capitol building, said Capitol Police Sgt. Kimberly Schneider. The charge was later changed to unlawful conduct, Schneider said. Both charges are misdemeanors.

Posted by: DM | Feb 1 2006 5:46 utc | 4


Who invented “zero emission coal plants”? C + O2 = CO2 – when did that change?

There have actually been proposals in the past for coal plants which captured all of their exhaust and sequestered the unpleasantries.
One ambitious model was MHD, magnetohydrodynamics. There are a lot of technical difficulties with MHD, but one nice bit is that one *cannot* run the plant dirty. The fuel stream has to be seeded with a fairly expensive material to make the process work, and it’s economically imperative to capture the effluent to recycle the seed back into the input.
Hmmmmmm, half a trillion dollars pissed away in Southwest Asia — that might have made a nice start on an MHD production program. Bye-bye!

Posted by: marquer | Feb 1 2006 6:58 utc | 5

I half assed watched the speech, and like DM posted, the freedom this and freedom that repetition, the standing ovations again and again, and that weird smirk over and over (what exactly does it mean? happy? proud? triumphunt? vindictive? who knows?), all of which left me tired — not sleepy tired, more like “blank” tired. Sort of like turning on the TV and staring at some sit-com that you’ve never seen before, you dont know the characters, what they’re doing or why, and a laugh tract that goes off every ten seconds, and you wonder why, its not funny, or even mildly amusing. So you feel “blank”. Which in itself is a particularally frusturating kind of “blank” in that you are cut off both physically and mentally from the participation in, of the communial spirit, the social contract, and the full dimension of social consciousness itself, which we are all compelled by nature to desire as our own self awarness. It was (is) a profound denial to bear witness and remain cut-off still to the massive and delusional construction portrayed so as normal business as usual– all in the face of as it is, the equivilant such potential for disaster. As the president, and no doubt the new governor of virginia make undeniable is the willpower across the political spectrum to doggidly maintain this severely constricted and constrained state of perpetual mental constipation fabricated and compacted into some tangible satisfactory substitute for actual reality. Eventually, Antifa (post on the other thread) is probably right about the american people, that they will at some point end up in the streets. With the full realization that the american political system is a pin point pyramid that from the top transmits the same bland message of unwitting conformity to the illusion of our reality. So be that it may when we return to the real physical world from the televised one, we do so before we are all pushing around our stuff in shopping carts.

Posted by: anna missed | Feb 1 2006 9:07 utc | 6

Thanks for watching, Bernhard, DM, anna missed.
So I don’t have to …
Best joke I heard recently, I think it was Uncle $cam: “Gil Scott Heron was wrong, the revolution has been televised.”
I’m paraphrasing, U$. Fair use?

Posted by: jonku | Feb 1 2006 9:57 utc | 7

At the Prezinint’s morning briefing yesterday, some NASA public relations work was mentioned.
NASA has started recruiting astronauts from Latin American countries to go up in the Space Shuttle, and spend time on the International Space Station.
Bush asked if they’d found anyone.
“Yes, sir. In fact, they’re sending a Brazilian on the very next flight.”
Bush looked perplexed, and asked, “Will it actually hold that many?”

Posted by: Antifa | Feb 1 2006 10:35 utc | 8

In his Sotu Bush mentioned a dead marine, Daniel J. Clay, and read words from a letter Clay had left for the family. His parents were in the first lady box (sponsored by?).
Clay died in an incident in Falljuah that was first reported as 10 troops hit by an IED during a patrol and turned out be some trap in a building where they had a promotion party.
You would not note from the Bush excerpts, but the full letter is filled with, for my taste, rabbit x-tianity:

What we have done in Iraq is worth any sacrifice. Why? Because it was our duty. That sounds simple. But all of us have a duty. Duty is defined as a God given task. Without duty life is worthless. It holds no type of fulfillment. The simple fact that our bodies are built for work has to lead us to the conclusion that God (who made us) put us together to do His work.

I googled a bit around and found his father, Bud Clay, left a note in guestbook on this site.
I always get a cold shower on my back when meeting such absolut “believe systems”. Wingnutia galore …

Posted by: b | Feb 1 2006 12:08 utc | 9

Shortshanks.
Very good, DM.
Be nice if he would throw Rove and McClellan into the moat and take a flying leap after them .

Posted by: Groucho | Feb 1 2006 13:12 utc | 10

On the same day that Bush gave his SOTU address (which I didn’t watch…cannot stand to listen to the man), some of the biggest news, (at least it was a lead on some tv news…and NPR…don’t know about overall…was this:
The U.S. govt is unofficially in default. We have negatives savings…something unheard of in this country since the great depression. Of course, Congress hasn’t yet increased the debt ceiling for the country, which would, on paper at least, make the govt “okay.”
Two days before, Enron records record profits, the most ever for a corp..is that right? Are they accounting for this as a percentage compared to the gilded age?
But the ppl in the U.S. are not only spending whatever they have each month in income, they are dipping into savings (whether savings accts or lines of credit on home equity, whatever) to spend money each month.
The U.S. economy is something like 90% fueled by consumer spending and home sales.
Will Bush’s final straw be a Hoover crash in the American economy? Isn’t it good for Greenspan that he’s leaving now? He’s apparently raised interest rates to 4.5%, so the new fed chief can again lower them to 1%, I suppose, to have a recession rather than a depression for a while?
With the disparity in income of the top 1% compared to everyone else, based upon Bush ecnomic policies, with pension funds for private corps a joke, with GM valued as junk b/c its pension funds cost more than it makes…and of course, that’s the fault of unions, according to the right wing, because only the rich should have a secure pension…
Personally, I hope the financial shit hits the fan sooner rather than later…like, say by September before the midterm elections…but that’s not the only reason. I would rather deal with this while Bush is in office so that he and his cronies can face the anger of the American ppl.
As someone who isn’t flush, and who has taken on “good debt” for the first time in a while in order to attend a masters level professional school…I wonder what Sallie Mae will do? I wonder if I should lay in food and water and items like toilet paper and vitamins now while the dollar has more value…I’m not joking.
Who here can give “survival strategies” for ppl who are not rich if/when the time comes to deal with the economy with some sort of honesty?
Should I buy liquor for barter? –or consider things that rich ppl like to hold?
I realize this sounds nuts, but so does Bush, so I’m just hanging with the zeitgeist.

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 1 2006 14:10 utc | 11

sorry for my booboos.
that should be Exxon records record profits, not Enron…it’s hard for me to tell the difference between one Texas oil-related co and another these days…they should all be called BushCo, maybe?

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 1 2006 14:21 utc | 12

Fauxreal asks what is, for me, the big question:
Who here can give “survival strategies” for ppl who are not rich if/when the time comes to deal with the economy with some sort of honesty?
What do you do when you’re the working poor, a student with no money, a single working parent with kids, or – like my family – a plain old working-class family where the breadwinners work for cool small businesses and/or nonprofits and therefore make enough money to get by and “own” a very small house but don’t pull down enough to save anything? What do you do when you have two kids, one 13 and the other 7, and you find yourself, instead of worrying about college, wondering if it’ll even be relevant during What’s Coming?
If the shit hits the fan, I’ll do what I’ve been doing my whole adult life – thrifting our clothes, cooking from scratch, growing whatever food I can and preserving what we can’t eat, networking within our community, and working as long as I have a job. Maybe I’ll buy a weapon. I can’t afford metals, so cigarettes and alcohol are indeed good things to trade around.
I wonder if we’ll even see it coming, if (?) and when it does…

Posted by: Lisa B-K | Feb 1 2006 14:28 utc | 13

It’s a funny old world.
It strikes me that the nation best positioned for dealing with the future is Cuba.
All those years of persecution by the good ‘ol USA have given them bone.
I suspect they will thrive.

Posted by: John | Feb 1 2006 14:44 utc | 14

If a big crash comes whatever craft talents you have might come in handy. So in anticipation of a crash you might want to improve your skills and stockpile what tools or items might be necessary to perform your craft. I expect old trades like baker to come back when the centralized systems of making and transporting products by carbos sputter and die in the wake of peak oil. And get to know your neighbours if you do not already, local connections are important.
I do not expect this to help much, but hopefully it might help a little.

Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Feb 1 2006 15:57 utc | 15

my favorite quote:

He grimly warned Iran not to pursue its nuclear weapons ambitions, calling it “a nation now held hostage by a small clerical elite that is isolating and repressing its people.”

Glad we don’t have that here…

Posted by: correlator | Feb 1 2006 17:17 utc | 16

“america is always more secure when freedom is on the march”
yep, the jack-booted march of “freedom” coming soon to a geo-strategic target near you. and maybe even this march, just like in march of 2003
“we will act boldly in freedom’s cause”
bold: darker than normal
“the advance of freedom is the great story of our time”
depends on which end of the guns of freedom that you’re staring down
“the spread of freedom”
they’re laying it on rather thick, aren’t they? seventeen uses of “freedom” in that speech. the only thing more prominent was the emphatic applause for such fascist rhetoric & implications.
the state of the union, the world, for that matter, will be a whole lot safer once gwb & his team have restricted “freedoms” to pursue their policies against their own citizenry & that of the rest of the planet.

Posted by: b real | Feb 1 2006 17:36 utc | 17

My wife and I drove across Canada a few years back. (east to west). When we hit crows nest pass it was quite surprising. We started going down, and continued going down for 8 hours. The rise was so gradual that we did not realise just how high we were. With the economy it is not the rise that is gradual, it is the drop.
The big one (crash) has been predicted for decades and decades. My father was apparently at one time predicting it before I was born. Don’t count on it yet. Looking at things north of the border there has been a slow long economic slide. My first job netted me 7.75/hr unskilled)in 1978 (I think). If I were to go out on the job market today I can get $9.00 (semi skilled). It is not just how much purchasing power the minimum wage has lost, but how many people at the lower ends of the economic scale are not tracking the same percentage rise as the minimum wage. The situation is worse than the rate of rise of the minimum wage would indicate. Canada has tracked the US economic situation relatively closely. I would be very surprised if the same was not true in the US. Things are not going along just tickety-boo just now as we head for a cliff. Instead we are going down and have been going down for a long slow collapse. Too slow to really notice. There may very well be no cliff at all – just a very gradual decent into extreme poverty.

Posted by: ed | Feb 1 2006 17:41 utc | 18

LOL! I don’t fear terrorist attacks. I fear eventual economic breakdown of society.
My 9 yr old daughter is more consumerist than me; her friends have way too much stuff; she wants it too. Consumerist DH convinced me to bring her to NYC last weekend to do the American Girl Place thing.
Mindful of an inevitable depression, I bought her the “Kit” doll book series, so she’ll have some preparation/idea of what it means to survive during a Depression Era.
DH thought I was nuts. More ‘nutty’ thinking:
In my mind, I’ve already figured out how to divide the townhouse into: three boarding/bath suites; our daughter, and grown step-son and his fiancee, would move into the master bedroom suite with us; we’d rent out the other two and share a communal kitchen and living room; and convert the back patio into a raised vegetable garden. Converting the existing flower garden into a vegetable garden too. Seed packets, “Ball” jars and lids, lots of ’em. Question: Caged chickens… or rabbits? DH can shoot; should we get a hunting gun for deer [squirrels?] the woods out back? Adding bicycles & related gear to the garage – which could be converted to more boarding space come to think of it. Won’t need the car. LOL!
Only problem is how to get water and how to dispose of sewage?
The I wake up from my day dreamin [nightmare] and fall back into my complacent unconscious mode where I drive 15 miles and back to pick up my child from a $13k/yr private school, shell out extra bucks for the privilege of buying ‘organic’ groceries, buy a $4 drink from Starbucks, and shop online for airline tickets to Orlando for Spring Break.
Yep. I’m nuts.

Posted by: gylangirl | Feb 1 2006 17:43 utc | 19

Fauxreal: Should I buy liquor for barter? –or consider things that rich ppl like to hold?
I suggest strongly, as Lisa mentioned, that if you are going to stockpile anything, that you get some means to keep it — such as a firearm and a good supply of ammo (and learn to use it properly). You don’t think that home invasion robberies, where people know you have something highly in demand or even just food, are going to go down or police protection is going to get better under the circumstances, do you? This will be a time when the weak are raped and pillaged, in one form or the other — or both. This has unfortunately always been the way of ‘civilization.’ Getting it is one thing, keeping it is another.

Posted by: Ensley | Feb 1 2006 18:38 utc | 20

…good post ggirl, aren’t many of us like that, it is a natural reaction, what can one do, i think when will we have time so i can teach my son a manual profession, he is fit and strong, but cant bake bread or make a table and knows nothing about gardening or farming and as for motors well forget it we both just flip a switch and that is it meanwhile he is studying genetics…
In a country like CH is it easier though. Everyone knows about doubling up plans, that is, using half of the interior space. 60% of energy (all together, rough figure) in CH is used to build, maintain, heat, light, provide hot water, cool, ensure access to, and so on – buildings, independently of the extra human activity inside them (cooking, manufacturing, computer use, etc.) So doubling up is a good first response to energy loss. Painful to be sure, but possible, as there is enough interior space. Food is another story…
So people joke and tease, we’ll double up in your house! In my house! etc.
Second, everyone is aware of and agreed with the fact that in times of crisis:
a) the army (CH has a conscription army, ready for call up in 24 hours) does the hard rough work, women and elderly men do the rest – all energy (all?) is to be used for defense and agriculture
b) a clear chain of command, stretching right down to individual buildings to control civilians, is to be absolutely respected. It is called the Civil protection Service. In my block, a burly Italian and a Doctor are ‘chief’.
This makes people feel safe – falsely safe – , in a globalised world. Yet, it gives them confidence, a sense of community, a feeling of pride. Which is a good thing to have pre-emptively (say), and keeps people on an even keel; they may fear the future — but live in the present.
What I am trying to say is that community is all (not that CH is fantastic, deserving of kudos or a model or whatever, historical and geographical accidents …) – individual measures must be taken if that is all one can do; but others will take the same ones, and fighting for meager ressources will kill many.

Posted by: Noisette | Feb 1 2006 19:45 utc | 21

Re survival in bad times – several suggestions.
1. One could probably save on the cost of meals by having vegetarian meals from time to time. Or, pretend you are an illegal Mexican immigrant for one day of the week, and live and eat that way.
2. The Mormons believe in saving food and money for one year, have books of advice for sale, and are very helpful in telling other people details of their methods.
3. An interesting book to read on what could happen, in the very worst case scenario, is S.M. Stirling’s SF book of alternate history, “Dies the Fire.” Author has a degree in history, and has kept on learning.
Borrow it from the library.
I view Stirling’s book with very mixed emotions, since it is viscerally vivid and well thought-out. However, I don’t accept his idea that electricity, gunpowder, and engines all suddenly fail to operate.
Nevertheless, given that premise, the rest of the book proceeds with grim logic. There are particularly good descriptions of what people grow, how they stay healthy (or not) and what they trade.
Finally, I agree that the US is sliding downhill. IMHO, this will continue, but it will be imperceptible to the vast majority of Americans. Nobody in the world wants the the US to crash suddenly, except some really grouchy Muslims.
Re Canada sliding downhill, it has to, if the US does. But IMHO as somebody living here, I think the degree of slide is much, much less. Our education system continues to be quite good, the fundies are much less powerful, health care is run much more cheaply, the governments aren’t nearly as corrupt, and there has been a healthy federal budget surplus for the last dozen years.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 1 2006 19:50 utc | 22

Oops, last post was by me, Owl. I live in Toronto and can watch lots of US TV. Like Bush’s speech last night. Mind you, I watched a “House” episode last night during the great event, and only checked in on Bush when the commercials came on. (The commercials were more interesting.)

Posted by: Owl | Feb 1 2006 19:58 utc | 23

Hi Owl. But what do you make of Harper? Is he the camel’s nose in the Canadian tent, or just a passing blip?
meanwhile…
What to do about plumbing in the event of complete meltdown: humanure thermophilic composting and/or redworm humanure composting. Read The Humanure Handbook plus anything on vermicomposting. I have done the latter for 18 months as an exercise and it worked great. You do need enough outdoor space for the compost pile. One pile about 3 feet across and 3 to 4 feet high will do one adult for over a year, and I think this could be improved on. I was generous with the carbonaceous materials.
Practise various skills, find out what is hard and what is easy, what you like and what you hate — and try to imagine realistically what might be in demand. I don’t think there will be such a thriving economy for seamstresses and tailors, for example, since many of the fossil-based plastic clothing we have today will last damn near forever. I have tee shirts over 10 years old that are still quite functional because of a percentage of poly in the cotton blend. I thnk there will be a huge surplus of mass produced clothing as people who have consumed and collected way too much of it try to yardsale their way out of poverty. So fantasies of earning your daily rice and beans with your crochet hook, knitting needles, or singer featherweight are probably just that — fantasy. Bricoleurs (Mr and Ms Fixits), bike mechanics, amateur plumbers and so on will probably be able to barter skills for food and material goods. Carpenters, roof repairers, glaziers, stonemasons, probably good prospects. Might be a good time to buy or build a bike rickshaw or a good bike trailer if you are fit enough to earn a few bucks hauling stuff for people 🙂
Bread making, canning, food preserving generally, growing medicinal and cooking herbs, keeping bees or small livestock (chickens, rabbits, potbelly pigs) probably have some potential as cottage industry. I think the best crystal ball for this kind of stuff is to look at any market town in a poor third world country, or the rural hinterland of a developing nation, and see what people are doing to scrape by. Grandma spending all day to take half a dozen sweet melons to the market to exchange for a few coins that she can then exchange for a small sack of rice, that kind of thing.

Speaking of yardsales, what becomes of Ebay when transport prices skyrocket? Does it collapse back into regional and local online markets like Craigslist?
Are we all a bunch of “End is Nigh” millennialists whimpering in unfounded panic? No idea. But it’s hard to see a really decorous, comfy soft landing from where I sit. Dark Age Ahead [as Jane Jacobs suggests] or just Hard Times, or some kind of massive die-off? Or just business as usual, getting a little meaner, a little dirtier, a little sicker and poorer and uglier with every passing year until, as Stephenson or Gibson once wrote, “every place in the end becomes India”. [I write this not as a slur on India in particular, but with a sense that the process of biotic bankruptcy and overpopulation, and the loss of freedom and immiseration of the majority that these entail, are in some way inevitable end states of the human process, and that the “younger nations” of Euroland and the US will in the end look like post-Imperial China, post-Rajput India, etc. — whoever it was should perhaps have written that all places in the end become Rapa Nui.]

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 1 2006 23:53 utc | 24

a taste of Harper

Posted by: gmac | Feb 2 2006 0:41 utc | 25

DeAnander, IMO it is too early to say anything about Harper.
Harper would like to be friendly with the US, but Bush & the US ambassador have an amazingly fine record of turning friends into seriously annoyed folks. A few days ago, Harper bared his teeth at the US statement that Canada should not be sending ice-breaker ships into the far north, and that the whole north area is not Canadian territory.
At his worst, Harper cannot be compared to a Republican. Besides, he has a minority government. That means, he can do nothing without a consensus – with the Liberals (extreme social democrats by US standards), New Democrats (even more extreme social democrats with a Marxist touch), Bloc Quebecois (ditto – very socially progressive).
With 124 seats, Harper has to scratch up 31 votes from the other parties to pass any laws.
Finally, the average Canadians have quite different attitudes from average Americans. Studies show that the differences have been widening since the 1950’s. A possible reason is that Canadians are more concentrated in big cities.
To be sure, there are Christian fundies, as well as a small Mormon offshoot where leaders have a dozen wives, but these are distinct minorities.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 2 2006 0:45 utc | 26

Oops again, my name, Owl, vanished.
Re “taste of Harper” above – yes, it is appalling. He can have such opinions all he likes. But he has NO power to do anything about them.
An interesting test on Harper’s real power in the House of Commons — when/if a proposed vote on eliminating same-sex marriage is held. The vote is expected to be a “free vote” so nobody will be voting according to party lines. The vote is expected to be in favour of keeping the law as it is.

Posted by: Owl | Feb 2 2006 1:01 utc | 27

Harper could play paddycake with his minority until such time as an election is called and then gain a majority – barring some unexpected event of some kind requiring martial law, in the meantime.

The entire blockade in Calgary (for the G8 in 2003) was a test for bill C-42, which was then in the house and didn’t pass. It has resurfaced several more times under C-55, C-17 and now C-7. It would give ministers extra-legislative powers (under governor-in-council provisions known as order-in-council) to essentially declare martial law. They could order the military to seize control of an area and detain people without due process, all under the guise of national security.

With stuff like this (and more) percolating through parliament under the Fibs, how different will it be having a guy with his head firmly up Chimpoleon’s ass as PM?

Posted by: gmac | Feb 2 2006 1:27 utc | 28

Hi Owl, btw I have been to Toronto and though I didn’t find the city tremendously attractive I was wowed by the public transit quality and level of service. It seemed so civilised compared to the third-world level of PT in most US cities (there are exceptions, but they are truly, ummm… exceptional).

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 2 2006 2:14 utc | 29

Good grief deanander. For 18 months you composted your own sewage?
I don’t think I’d want to be a neighbor, but that’s bloody impressive.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 2 2006 2:32 utc | 30

Practise various skills, find out what is hard and what is easy, what you like and what you hate .
I have always liked banking.

Posted by: Pretty Boy Floyd | Feb 2 2006 2:35 utc | 31

Thanks for the Keen book Debunking Economics. A very tough slog, but very impressive someone could put all of that together.
Also, I’d encourage everyone to read billmon’s suggested books. The Emmanuel Todd and John Gray books are interesting, mostly conservative/reactionary shakedowns of imperialism and globalism.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 2 2006 2:37 utc | 32

De, haven’t seen you here for awhile.
On the subject of livestock here in the US, check this out.
Apparently, Julia Child, Sydney Bristow, Mae Brussell, and Courtney Love (my four chickens) are a bit threatening.

Posted by: Lisa B-K | Feb 2 2006 2:46 utc | 33

Bernhard, don’t know what the phrase “waiting line for medicine” exactly refers to esp in regards to AIDS medicine; however, yes there are increasing problems with prescription drugs in US at least for elderly since Medicare Part D drug plan kicked in. My husband is former radiologist, so we get Physicians for National Health Care Plan mailings (part of why he’s an ex – few radiologists in US are pro-single payer) and Dr Oliver Fein was outraged that one of his patients had to go to hospital because the patient could not get necessary prescriptions, or rather couldn’t afford them. I also see this in reports I do at local hospital – I’m a med transcriptionist. Health care in US sucks – and that’s in the past 30 years or less – almost totally driven by insurance industry now, as it was not within my 50+-years’ memory (let alone my husband’s surgeon father’s time).

Posted by: francoise | Feb 2 2006 2:46 utc | 34

Lisa B-K,
Wailen, Minnie, Smokey, Mrs.Brown, Sabrina, Frank, and the Do-Do sisters == my chickens, would strongly agree.

Posted by: anna missed | Feb 2 2006 3:03 utc | 35

Anna Missed, I am strongly tempted to make a tee shirt that has a sketch of Julia Child (a gorgeous Buff Orpington) on the front with the word “TERRORIST” underneath.
Honestly, these govt people are more absurd/dangerous every day. Good discussion re NAIS via an online radio program airing these past couple weeks can be found here.

Posted by: Lisa B-K | Feb 2 2006 3:18 utc | 36

And Lisa, you should know that no matter how OT it is to talk about chickens, I for one cannot resist the opportunity, and relish any level of fact talking, name dropping, or small talk gossiping when it comes to chickens — the uncrowned kings and queens of human sustanance, source of beauty, and a no uncertain wellspring of unintended laugh out loud humor.
So, whatcha got?

Posted by: anna missed | Feb 2 2006 3:21 utc | 37

I read Emmanuel Todd’s book a couple of years ago. I’d call him a moderate, myself. I respect him for his forecast of the end of the USSR when Wolfie, etc. were overestimating the “evil empire” and saying the CIA was totally wrong b/c they downplayed the ability of the USSR to threaten the U.S. (sound familiar?) …that’s when Bush Sr. 86’d the neocons, if I remember what I’ve read (that part is not from Todd.)
Todd says that Chomsky gives too much power to the ability of the US to control all, and the right wing…the guy who wrote about the end of history, maybe? also placed too much faith in US power.
Instead, Todd looks at the US the way he looked at the USSR. I’ve mentioned this here…but a while ago, I suppose. He also believes that the middle east is going thru a crisis of modernism, and that their prospects for an easier time of this can be predicted by looking at the levels of education for men, then women…this results in falling birth rates and more autonomy for females, and…voila…a world that Bill O’Reilly hates.
So, it’s education, not war, that would seem to be the greatest way to bring stability and less reactionary movements to the middle east, if the rest of the world’s history is any example.
and, thus, by looking at Todd’s demographic evidence, fundamentalist religion is not the opiate of the ppl, it is the wmd.
but it’s been a while since I read it, so if Billmon still exists, maybe he can clarify and apply his skills in economics and more to give his thoughts on Todd’s book.
Some are arguing that the US is sinking into a dark age. That’s the book Gore Vidal mentioned in this link.
The book is by Morris Berman and is called Dark Ages America: The Final Stage of Empire.
“We retain the rhetoric of liberal democracy, but freedom of choice really means Wendy’s vs. Burger King.”—Morris Berman
here’s one guy’s opinion. he recommends The Collapse of Complex Societies, instead. (this amazon link lets you read a bit of it, too.)
As far as slide vs. crash…
well, I’m hooked in to community here. I garden. I have canning equipment and a handcrank ice cream maker (but not enough rock salt) , and I weirdly save candle wax because one of these days I’m gonna make some candles, and know ppl who grow chickens in the city and I started trying to save my own seeds this year, and I can walk or bike to the places I really need to get to (including a place to get horse manure) and my kids take the bus to school, but I have enough books at my place about specific subjects that I could teach them…not that they or I could stand that… I cannot sew, but I can bake, but so can lots of professionals where I live. I don’t think my area would be subject to a housing bubble pop, but lots of bldg is going on here, which has had the effect of making some places more affordable b/c they’re staying empty longer as rentals. (this is University town economics.)
I’ve been planting edible landscaping for a while…fruits mostly. I know the uses of lots of plants before pharmas…not just for medicine, but things that are ornamental now that used to be considered edible.
In the big scheme of things, a place like the one where I live is usually considered a place that would fare better than others, but who knows. In any event, it’s not simply about me when I think of these things.
Once upon a time, when I lived in the big city, I was mugged and I found out that my adrenalin reaction was to fight, kick, and all that, till I had a chance to think. So I think I would survive, or die trying. I worry about my disabled son, esp. when he’s older and all that. I don’t live near any of my family so that his cousins could watch his back. That’s an issue for me no matter what, tho.
Last year I wanted to get rain barrels, and looked at them, but…
I’ve seen composting toilets online, De, much easier to deal with, I’d think.
It does seem so ridiculous and outrageous to even think about these sorts of things…not composting toilets…doesn’t New Mexico use them in their park system?
Funny tho, that Bush speaking makes me think like a survivalist…

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 2 2006 3:41 utc | 38

Greetings Comrade Slothrop, flaming trebuchet of donnish debate or whatever your UUT monicker was! I trust the new year is treating you well, or at least irritating you in creative ways? Greetings to all the rest of the barflies as well. I’m just dropping by really — the Real World and my relocation plans, plus day-job demands, are keeping me from spending as much time writing or surfing as I useta.
BTW, humanure composting properly done produces no detectible stenches. Neighbours never noticed (and my lot size is 70 x 30 ft with a tall trophy home one side and a tall condo the other, overlooking my tiny back yard). No offensive odours were shared with others 🙂 the worst problem was raccoons trying to dig up my redworms out of the pile and eat them. Chicken wire on top of the piles stopped that. The end product after a year of rest for the pile to age out any nasties the worms leave behind, is a marvelous topsoil.
I am so glad you enjoyed Keen, slothrop. Yes, a tough slog due to all the math, but a sprightly writer nonetheless. If one has to struggle through a critique of the bogus math of neolib econ, Keen at least is a charming guide. I need to reread his debunking of Ricardo and the dogma of comparative advantage, now that you mention him.
Hi Lisa 🙂 in considering all these scare tactics and tightening of surveillance — remember the Mugabe policy of outlawing market gardening among the urban population. How much of “health and safety” regulations and Turrist fearmongering are intended to concentrate control in the hands of large corporate producers and their “government” stooges with a view to prohibiting villages, towns, n’hoods from attempting limited self-sufficiency? Call me Tin Foil Teresa, but I have to wonder. The only domestic policy vocabulary word BushCo and the corporate aristos can spell is “Control.”

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 2 2006 3:46 utc | 39

todd is a bit of a misogynist (“castrating females”), is an apoogist for american postwar empire of the 1940s-50s. he also is attracted to fukiyama’s strange universalism of american led democratization. but, he seems right about the future of u.s. empire.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 2 2006 3:59 utc | 40

Anna – Two Buffs and two Speckled Sussex for eggs and entertainment. When we got them (some friends were halving their flock), the two Speckleds were always picking on each other and looked terrible. Some TLC and Rescue Remedy in
their water helped enormously. They’re lodging this winter in a solar paneled chicken tractor (the solar panels being windows we freecycled); we’ll move then pen out to the grass (I need a couple more vegetable beds) as soon after the equinox as we can, weather permitting, Which, around here, has been rather permitting already. We got a taste of winter in Dec; perhaps more to come. So I wait. How about you?
De – I’ve wondered often about what you describe, how that scenario would play out here. I think it’s already playing out, in slow motion. The tin foil hatters know of some executive orders that hamper self-sufficiency, spozedly signed by Big Dog, but I’m not sure they need stuff like that when the public is so complacent about its food supply…

Posted by: Lisa B-K | Feb 2 2006 4:20 utc | 41

Slothrop- I guess I missed the part about castrating females. where was that?
I do remember he talked about male anxiety related to female independence, but I don’t see that as misogyny. I see that as looking at history and seeing that men fear losing power over females…they might have to start getting pec implants and liposuction if they can’t control a female via finances.
Didn’t Engels say that male subjugation of women was the first example of class warfare?
I suppose Todd has the pov of someone who benefited from the Marshall Plan, as far as postwar America…that was one of the finer moments in “interference” as far as I’m concerned…butter not guns…Truman, for all his faults, was adamant that NO war profiteering should come from implementing the Marshall Plan.
Thanks for remembering Fukiyama. As far as democratization…that was the idea behind the French Revolution as well, when they saw that the other monarchs wouldn’t tolerate a Republic…
But I know we have differences of opinion, and you have a vastly different frame of reference than I do…isolationism vs…what…is always an issue for any nation. what we’re doing is wrong, no matter what, with the war profiteering and taking away autonomy and trying to install puppets and, simply invading Iraq itself was a horrible mistake that is leading to civil war, as was predicted by the reality-based experts.
I’m not thrilled with Hamas in Palestine, either, even when they were elected by democratic processes. I can’t be as optimistic as b about them being forced to moderate their rhetoric and action. I also understand their anger…but don’t see that it will make anything any better.
overall, if America becomes part of a larger balance of power, maybe that would be one of the best ways to reach some sort of peace without destroying us all.

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 2 2006 4:38 utc | 42

and speaking of the debbil-
Robert Newman in The Guardian:
Capitalism is not sustainable by its very nature. It is predicated on infinitely expanding markets, faster consumption and bigger production in a finite planet. And yet this ideological model remains the central organising principle of our lives, and as long as it continues to be so it will automatically undo (with its invisible hand) every single green initiative anybody cares to come up with.
Much discussion of energy, with never a word about power, leads to the fallacy of a low-impact, green capitalism somehow put at the service of environmentalism. In reality, power concentrates around wealth. Private ownership of trade and industry means that the decisive political force in the world is private power. The corporation will outflank every puny law and regulation that seeks to constrain its profitability. It therefore stands in the way of the functioning democracy needed to tackle climate change. Only by breaking up corporate power and bringing it under social control will we be able to overcome the global environmental crisis.

…and David Cross is on The Colbert Report in a big wig, tweaking the enviros…

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 2 2006 4:45 utc | 43

Lisa,
We got mostly bantam silkies, then some polish, cochin, and a frizzle — all free range(in the yard 3/4 acre). Not hungry enough to eat them, so we just eat their eggs & let them hatch & raise their own chicks. Maybe its time for a chicken thread? (just kidding b.)

Posted by: anna missed | Feb 2 2006 9:06 utc | 44

Since we got on the topic of survial in harsh times —
Link to story about drugs for elderly grabbed in Miami
Quote:
Conrad says he is not sure if the seizure operation extends beyond Miami at this time. However, he says the operation was undertaken with no notice to the public. That means senior citizens depending on this medication are unaware that the drugs have been seized.
“The [elderly] people who ordered the medication will be getting letters [from the government] informing them that the shipments have been seized,” Conrad says. “They have bins and bins of medicine, some of it live-saving medication.”
Conrad says drugs on the hit list include blood-pressure, asthma, antidepressant, heart and cancer medication.
“My understanding is that some cancer medication was seized that requires refrigeration,” he adds.

Posted by: Owl | Feb 2 2006 9:40 utc | 45

anna m – What a rich, disturbing explanation of “blank” at the top of the thread! For me, a cathartic read.
SOTU started shortly after 4pm (afternoon) here, and I fell asleep @ 15-20 min. Later I attributed this reaction to escapist response to extreme cognitive dissonance and overload. Intolerable to be heard as sense. Too destructive to be dismissed as pure nonsense. Too forked to be readily parsed. Kremlinology not my strength.
Your description is so much better. Thanks for breaking it down with insight.

Posted by: small coke | Feb 4 2006 22:56 utc | 46