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January 21, 2006
Weekend OT
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” The great majority of mankind are satisfied with appearances as though they were realities” — Machiavelli Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 21 2006 7:19 utc | 2 Leo Strauss and the Theologico-Political Problem
Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 21 2006 7:26 utc | 3 Database of DNA of 10 to 18-year-olds being built by stealth in the UK. Posted by: Dismal Science | Jan 21 2006 15:12 utc | 4 I tend to follow this guy’s advice. If anyone doesn’t already know, here is one of the classic old school methods Rupert Murdoch uses to control debate and ensure that the two faction one party state continues without interuption. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 21 2006 22:12 utc | 7 Further to the discussion about access to personal computers by the government on another MoA thread: Robert X. Cringey, long-time technology/computer columnist in popular magazines, has an article discussing both telephone wiretaps (listening in on calls) and pen traps (recording which number called which other number), which are easier to legally obtain and manage.
My point is that it seems clear that any phone conversation, email or instant message, or Internet posting is pretty much assured to be recorded as to what phone number called another one (for billing purposes), which computer sent the email (email headers), who accesses which web page (web logs), who posted which comment (Bernhard and other bloggers have said so, the data is recorded in a log somewhere); not to mention that every phone call and computer transmission goes through not only your own ISP or local telephone company, but many other “common carriers” such as long-distance companies, fiber-optic providers and so on, with myriad opportunities to listen in, read mail, scan for keywords etc. Posted by: jonku | Jan 21 2006 23:13 utc | 8 oops, “Robert X. Cringely” — sorry Bob. Posted by: jonku | Jan 21 2006 23:19 utc | 9 News of the World is Murdoch’s sleaziest rag. Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jan 22 2006 1:37 utc | 10 What I really was going to write before I read Debs post was about a tv-program I saw a piece of while zapping during a commercial (another reason to download instead). Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jan 22 2006 1:53 utc | 11 @askod Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2006 5:35 utc | 13 Larry Franklin sentenced to 12 years in AIPAC spy case… Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 22 2006 6:21 utc | 14 Some good peak oil resources posted here at the moment- Posted by: correlator | Jan 22 2006 6:55 utc | 15 The story-telling monopoly of modern media… jonku, and any other Canadians out there–what do you think of this: Who is Stephen Harper, the Conservative poised to be Canada’s next prime minister? It seems enough to convince anyone of the futility of moving to Canada to escape the insanity. Can you imagine how this will go down with Palestinians and how much harm this does to Abbas?
The first time I see a challenge of Diebold voting machines in a bigger media outlet.
@Malooga, go here for continuing superb coverage of the changes being engineered in Canada to get it ready for merger. It’s also helpful, because it’s being done so rapidly that you can see the changes they’ve already engineered down here over last ~25 yrs. telescoped into virtually no time at all – now that they’ve perfected their methods for replacing democratic representative governments w/those of by and for the fascist technocrats & bankers. I read a story @that site w/in last wk. or two that reactionaries decided to shut their mouths about their virulently anti-abortion plans so as not to sabotage their electoral chances. Posted by: jj | Jan 22 2006 9:24 utc | 20 I guess the US is trying to protect it’s investment. Offing Yasser wouldn’t have come cheap and even if the Israelis did do the grunt work the US would have picked up the tab. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2006 9:54 utc | 21 Malooga, thanks for asking about WHo is Stephen Harper?. Posted by: jonku | Jan 22 2006 10:33 utc | 22 the classified document that Franklin allegedly passed to AIPAC concerned a controversial proposal by Pentagon hard-liners to destabilize Iran
http://www.cooperativeresearch.org/entity.jsp?id=884907706-886
Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2006 11:27 utc | 23
isn’t feith in trouble for passing info to israel also? i guess what i don’t understand is why franklin got in trouble for it. seems to me like it was all part of the neocon/israel plan. Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2006 11:50 utc | 24 Debs, you continue to amaze: “… the US technique of sending whores out to do a hero’s job …” Posted by: jonku | Jan 22 2006 12:02 utc | 25 being the cynical bastard that I am, my guess is that Franklin was prosecuted because he is Catholic and fair game. The article by Laura Rosen certainly explains why state run media, which is about the same thing as saying corporate media is continually bringing up the Iranian PM’s statements on the holocaust and the question of legitimacy of Israel in the Palestine. SRM never misses a beat to implicate Iran in bad news. I heard some talking head say that binny could be in Iran, you hear all the time how hizbollah is sponsored by Iran and the only pictures you see of Iranians are of small scared looking women in their black body bags. Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 22 2006 12:32 utc | 26 Thaks for the info. Newsweek on the domestic Pentagon spying
The last bit is interesting. The Counterintelligence Field Activity agents posing as foreign people on webboards, blogs etc could do quite bit of “provocation”. i assume everyones been following the blood the thugs have been squeazing out of this tape. as a diversion from abramoff, nsa, alito ( we really don’t want to examine the possible filibuster) Posted by: annie | Jan 22 2006 19:16 utc | 30 this is pretty funny! Posted by: dan of steele | Jan 22 2006 20:44 utc | 31 @ Jonku whores out to do a hero’s job would apply to bremer et al but I was referring more to the quality of puppets or quislings that get installed following a US ‘rescue’ of a formerly independant nation state. Abbas was forced on Arafat by the US as a condition of some agreement designed to stop the Israeli pillaging of the Palestinians. When Arafat didn’t play ball that was the point at which the US criticism changed from not commenting on the iraeli vilification to joining in. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2006 21:06 utc | 32 Okay, Debs, I understand. Posted by: jonku | Jan 22 2006 22:29 utc | 33 @Jonku I wasn’t having a ping at anyone least of all a fellow MoA-ite. I don’t expect everyone or even anyone else to share my worldview which is why I try and clarify if I think I’ve been misinterpreted. It is a fine line between cynicism and sarcasm and I’m always misinterpreting others on this. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2006 23:22 utc | 34 I actually came back in here to see if anyone else had come across this:
I don’t think I can guarantee a sane or polite response to the next stranger who drops by MoA to spruik the alleged more leftish half of the state party. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 22 2006 23:36 utc | 35 For those Canadians that care, or any others interested, here’s what a buddy of mine delivered door to door in his riding in prep for tomorrow’s symbolic ceremony – apologies for length:
Posted by: gmac | Jan 22 2006 23:55 utc | 36 I have definitive evidence of the decadence of America: Posted by: Groucho | Jan 23 2006 0:41 utc | 37 A rather calculated and simplified look at invading Iran. Posted by: anna missed | Jan 23 2006 7:09 utc | 38 Thanks, gmac. Your friend’s essay makes a hell of a lot of sense — in fact, the local Green candidate, or was it the Marxist-Leninist candidate, said essentially the same thing in her closing remarks at a recent candidates meeting. Posted by: jonku | Jan 23 2006 7:30 utc | 39 More on Stephen Harper, soon to be Canada’s Prime Minister: Posted by: jonku | Jan 23 2006 20:43 utc | 40 Same old neo-liberal shit. It doesn’t matter where all these “mainchancers”, to use Debs’ colorful description, come from or how many lovely children they have, or even if they “propose to increase social spending.” They are all wholly owned widgets, turned out by corporations, and for the exclusive benefit of corporations. We have near complete corporate control of the world. So, he will cut taxes and spend the government into bankrupcy, then cut services, or leave it to the other party to do; and the press, as signalled by these articles, has lost all historical perspective or at the very least sees this as a viable option. Fuck them all. |
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