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January 1, 2006
Open Thread 06-1
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Newsweek on the process that led to spying within the U.S. by the NSA
Let’s hope so .. Bush plans nuclear attack on Iran?! Even wonder if MSM network is feeding you s–t? Posted by: Loose Shanks | Jan 1 2006 20:27 utc | 3 Bush Calls Domestic Spying Program Essential Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 1 2006 22:20 utc | 4 Clowntime is Over: The Last Stand of the American Republic Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 1 2006 23:19 utc | 5 Islamic leaders were paid to aid U.S. propaganda Posted by: zena | Jan 2 2006 3:21 utc | 6 i just can’t stand this pressure anymore. it’s really getting to be too much to try and hide it any longer. according to the person playing the role of the president, the last thing this nation needs right now is another anonymous leak (probably no longer possible over the web anyway, eh?), so i feel it best to go ahead & get this on the record tonite. i have made it my new year’s resolution to come out and admit that i, yes i, have been helping to fund terrorism. for quite some time now. decades, actually. that’s right. i’m not proud of it. matter of fact, it literally makes me sick to think about how i got caught up in this mess & what acts of terror my money has helped facilitate over the years. of course, it all started innocently enough – i was still in high school, naive as hell, just excited to have a real job & an income of my own. how was i to know where some of my tax dollars were going? i mean, as kids we were heavily indoctrinated into the belief that our government was there to serve its citizens and that by paying our share of taxes, we were making our communities and lives better. how was i to know? it wasn’t like our textbooks or popular media ever let on what was really happening in our names. but excuses probably don’t mean much coming from a character who would fund state terrorism – knowingly or not. there is no excuse for this irresponsibility and i want to publicly state that i am truly sorry. i am so ashamed. Posted by: b real | Jan 2 2006 5:17 utc | 7 U.S. Has End in Sight on Iraq Rebuilding
Monolycus, I salute you. I would never have understood the Bush remarks you quote without your kind explication. He is as funny as John Dillinger! Our (I mean that) President is an excellent comedian, a buffoon of the highest order. That is a remarkable achievement and I extend my gratitude to you for the clear instruction. Thank you.
To the rest of y’all, sorry if I’m taking up the room under the Moon, but I had on my red goggles and had to say something. It was getting kind of quiet and I love seeing a new post, even if it’s just my own. A shout-out to DeAnander wherever you are. Posted by: jonku | Jan 2 2006 9:27 utc | 10 Oh my…. and since we now have now a moonbat confessional tribulation, I like my brethren in an early springtime blossoming confessional, which, while we’re at it, to quote my spiritial mentor Jimmy Swagert: “forgive me for I have sinned” — yeah, more than once, so what “it was gooood” — I too have also sinned, and in such a rareified and ignominious mood, pickled as I am in the unholy Glen- Livett moment of confessional I now find myself (thanks alot Mono-), I, while having resisted (so far) bank robbery and paying (so far) federal taxes, I am least not yet so clean, as to be washed in the blood of a small sheep, to purify, assuming this is a metaphore (I mean really, you’d think they could do better than that, Ukk) which I could embrace, I try to anna — lies how could I contribute to the greater glorification for which I have been so far delinquent, for which if you think about it, must be without qualification — the primier reason for the failure, on all fronts without question, the historonic deflation of the american ideal before the audience of the world — Damn, what was I thinking? Hey, you watch next time I’ll do better………………………Sorry bout that. Posted by: anna missed | Jan 2 2006 10:40 utc | 11 Uncle, you asked before about songs of protest. Here’s one: Posted by: jonku | Jan 2 2006 10:43 utc | 12 anna missed, I must respond. The thing is, you and the Ideal America do exist if only in Our Minds. Posted by: jonku | Jan 2 2006 10:53 utc | 14 US forces step up Iraq airstrikes
@ b Posted by: Spotter | Jan 2 2006 16:30 utc | 17 @Spotter – yep, the whole “rduction of collateral damage” is bullshit. The journalist doesn’t say so directly (he should) but he puts the example just a few graphs away.
Unkka–re your link- Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 3 2006 3:25 utc | 19 Agreed fauxreal,
It’s possible that all this is just gov’t being stupid. But remember the natural, unswerving law of politics: each gov’t fuckup is just an excuse for granting the gov’t still more power. At this point, seemingly ridiculous, nonsensical acts take on a significance – does it really even matter at this point whether it’s conspiratorial design or a well-established, organic pattern of SNAFUs – that too many actively ignore. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 3 2006 5:52 utc | 20 @Uncle $cam I don’t know if I hold to Chris Floyd’s philosophy that only the establishment forces can hope to derail BushCo. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 3 2006 8:03 utc | 21 @Did, when I refer to “the establishment” I do not mean you or me, I mean the business class. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 3 2006 10:19 utc | 22 fauxreal, you said Posted by: jonku | Jan 3 2006 10:40 utc | 23 Just for a little quaint nostalgia: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 3 2006 12:11 utc | 24 While the MI complex is part of the “establishment” the GIs who are doing the killing and dying are not. A Military Times poll shows that support for Bush’s Iraq policy has dropped to 54% from 63% last year. Regarding the poll sample:
In other words, those actually suffering the personal consequences of the policy were under represented in the poll. Posted by: lonesomeG | Jan 3 2006 17:17 utc | 25 It is difficult to imagine that this bombing North of Tikrit is the same story as the bombing outside Kirkuk that both spotter and b talk about. In fact the substantial variation in details between those tales of death and destruction makes one wonder if they are discussing two seperate events themselves.
The insurgents will rapidly develop methods of getting IEDs into the ground unobserved and the number crunchers at the Pentagon will display their usual inertia in modifying their tactics, so we can expect that Sunni will feel even more oppressed once it becomes apparent that not only are tribal ceremonies particularly weddings a thing of the past but now planting crops, digging a well or an irrigation ditch have become high risk occupations. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 3 2006 18:52 utc | 26 Abramoff Pleads Guilty to 3 Felony Charges
Looks like this will unfold just in time for the 2006 election. I wonder how the Cheney administration will divert the public from all these scandals blowing up around them. Here is an Abraomoff scoresheet (so far). The strategy for defending Republicans will be to constantly mention Democrats who took Abramoff’s money to “balance” the perception that this is a Republican scandal. It will probably work. Posted by: lonesomeG | Jan 3 2006 22:16 utc | 28 Deeper Abramoff: Bush’s connections to Abramoff. In 2002 Bush Obstructed Justice For Jack, Recount Bill NEVER PAID Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 3 2006 23:12 utc | 29 @lomesoneG – you said Cosma Shalizi makes a very interesting research proposal – how could we measure the extent to which cronyism allows incompetents to land plum jobs in the Bush administration? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 3 2006 23:31 utc | 31 @lonesomeG, although a donkey party administration would be ‘less bad’ than the current rethug mob, the difference would be marginal. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 3 2006 23:42 utc | 32 Shouldn’t we do this for the Executive office/branch the most powerful and dangerous office in the land? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 4 2006 0:18 utc | 33 @DID, Posted by: gylangirl | Jan 4 2006 0:58 utc | 34 @Uncle I must admit to being gobsmacked at your link on applicant testing. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 4 2006 1:43 utc | 35 Unembedded: Four photojournalists on the war in Iraq Posted by: kw | Jan 4 2006 4:22 utc | 37 b, Posted by: lonesomeG | Jan 4 2006 7:11 utc | 38 Well said lonesomeG. I’ve always said, “360 degrees from fucked-up is still fucked-up.” Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 4 2006 7:29 utc | 39 A unhappy man in the black fedora. A short portrait of Jack A. pledging guilty. Souvereign Iraq? Sure, but only with U.S. cronies in the lead.
I am “out of my depth” in evaluating the discussion and comments to the latest post at Josh Landis’ SyriaComment.com Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jan 4 2006 9:58 utc | 42 “It is not our job to seek peaceful coexistence with the Left. Our job is to remove them from power permanently.” Posted by: Monolycus | Jan 4 2006 17:46 utc | 43 hannah, for some reason i am having trouble opening that link, but i was just reading about the new tourist attraction this morning and getting more and more pissed off. turning over some of their land to the christians is one thing, turning over syrian land is another.
Posted by: annie | Jan 4 2006 17:52 utc | 44 Debs I agree with what you wrote. (And I even teach HR pyschology – gonna hafta quit soon!) Posted by: Noisette | Jan 4 2006 18:01 utc | 45 Assistannt AG Alice Fisher — in charge of Abramoff investigation — a bonafide political hack.
Bernard posted previously about her appointment, here. Posted by: manonfyre | Jan 4 2006 20:06 utc | 46 How To Conceal The Unacceptable Face Of Capitalism 101
Yep 2 1/2 pages of maudlin over emotive claptrap about the ‘rollercoaster’ of emotions the miner’s families were put through. You call that a cover up? What could be worse than that?
Even then the NYT comes to the rescue of the assholes who let these men die for money.
“See it wasn’t me m’lud” “Twas them others who came before you see” Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 4 2006 20:11 utc | 48 Debs- when I, and I assume Floyd and Uncle $cam, talk about the establishment stopping Bush, I do not mean to in any way imply partisan politics in that action. If I remember my small intro to elite theory in politics, it’s a mistake to refer to elites in society as tho they are of one mind, or that they don’t compete with one another for favoritism, etc….and there is a media elite, a political elite and business elite (and subsections of this…right now I’d say the oil biz had disproportionate influence…also the pharma elite…), a banking elite (and sometimes these defs. overlap) etc. and it is the powerful from these groups who must realize that it is in the best interest of this country to bring down this junta. Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 4 2006 20:11 utc | 49 that should have read… Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 4 2006 20:29 utc | 50 @fauxreal I can see what you’re saying and you’re right that in the end the ‘establishment’ will be the cohort that ‘calls the shots’ and brings BushCo down. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 4 2006 20:52 utc | 51 Debs- youth are the group that votes the least around here, so hope to appeal to youth and get them out for your issues is a big deal, but at election time, the politicians surely know they’d do well to listen to polls coming from regular voters. Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 4 2006 21:21 utc | 52 SHARON Suffers a Cerebral Hemorrhage
Posted by: annie | Jan 4 2006 22:11 utc | 53 Sharon dying (when it happens) means one less war criminal thug in the world as far as I’m concerned. Posted by: ran | Jan 5 2006 0:55 utc | 54 I don’t subscribe to the ‘higher power’ theory of life and have always felt ‘karma’ to be the unconscious consequence of repressed guilt. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 5 2006 1:00 utc | 55 “Asshole the war crim doesn’t act like he has a guilty bone in his body in which case hopefully his stroke will leave him a drooling idiot on the outside, incapable of wiping his own ass but on the inside he will be aware enough to fully comprehend his miserable condition.” I like that. He’ll tango with Arafat soon enough. Posted by: beq | Jan 5 2006 1:09 utc | 56 fauxreal- ran, i know this is gross but i don’t want him to die. since the only hell i believe in is the one on earth i would like him to go thru a period of ‘significant disability’
i know this doesn’t reflect my best side, so be it. Posted by: annie | Jan 5 2006 2:30 utc | 58 b- annie- @ Malooga I’ve no doubt you are technically correct about strokes and their severity. The point I was trying to make was that when asshole had his first stroke mild or severe; a ‘normal’ person who wasn’t alternately spewing vitriol at the helpless and sucking as much material benefit as possible out of everyone else, would have ‘put their feet up’for a bit. Having your first stroke whether it be medically mild or severe is kind of a major milestone in your life. Posted by: Debs is dead | Jan 5 2006 3:12 utc | 61 cool, did you save the coverage, any links?
from the significant disability link, he was taking the medication Posted by: annie | Jan 5 2006 3:32 utc | 62 annie, as an atheist I too believe you get your punishment in this life or not at all, so I have to agree with you and Debs that having the grossly obese mass murderer suffer for awhile has a certain poetic justice about it. Posted by: ran | Jan 5 2006 3:51 utc | 63 Mine where 12 died in NY money man’s portfolio @annie- I have most of it on CD (sometimes I was too busy to notice the recording was over), but it’s not on line. Buried away in the news pages by the Abramoff case is the conviction of one of Sharon’s sons in a scandal involving campaign finance Both [of Sharon’s sons] have been suspected of one financial scandal or another but on Tuesday Omri resigned his seat in the Knessett after being convicted for giving false testimony and forging documents in connection with the financing of Ariel’s bid for the leadership of Likud in 1999. Also, Calls directed at Prime Minister Ariel Sharon, to step down from office, are resonating from many prominent political personalities following a Channel 10 News report on Tuesday night that the prime minister received a $3 million payment from a sup… OHMYGAWDLOOKATTHETERRORISTBOMB!!!! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 5 2006 5:28 utc | 66 Sure. It hard to imagine anyone looking more the part of an evil, corrupt, sadistic, venal, meglomaniacal, sclerotic walking id of a homunculus than Sharon. He is the personification of infinite appetite, a veritable Buddhist “Hungry Ghost”. @ Malooga
Fortin Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 5 2006 8:32 utc | 68 grrr, the above was me-Unka Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 5 2006 8:58 utc | 69 |
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