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December 2, 2005
The Secretary of IIA

A Los Angeles Times OpEd today says: "It’s propaganda time"

A permanent leadership is needed in the form of a new Cabinet department that can knock together heads to force integrated influence activities — a Ministry of Propaganda, if you will.

If you want a total war, this is certainly one element you need.

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thye way that they lie these days is so crude – so elemental & of such short shelf space
their lies are lucky toi last a week
even inside the labyrinth of lies of so called complexity – like the abramoff connection – the lie at the centre is of no great refinement – crude vulgar & brutal
& because murdoch & margaret thatcher & then reagan through their happy mutual infantilism & fantasies of power they have never possessed – they created a form of lying that is a simulacre of lying – we know it is the truth as we know it is a lie
we know now as we knew then that there was never any wmd – that there never existed a lien between saddam hussein & al quaeda – we do not even know the exactitude of halajba for example – but we knew & we know
because they are not even bothered to dress up their lies – theior contemp for us is total
it is not their monopoly – i recounted here that during my youth i listened to a representative of the chinese communist party tell us in a group a completely b-rated history of the death of lin piao & i thought the truth is enough but the lie as andrew marvell sd is like the cure being worse than the sickness
it is degraded. & the lies of foxnews & its filters at bbccnnsky are just the baton tapped on our heads.
the lies they tell today are of a special kind of depravity & truly must be understood through the work of st augustin or through the workss of dante
& that is the paradox – their treatment of the truth is so peripheral but the crime itself is deeply, deeply, profound

Posted by: r’giap | Dec 2 2005 23:41 utc | 1

christ cnn have an ‘exclusive’
john negroponte saying america is safer is like heinrich himmler saying a country is judenfrei

Posted by: r’giap | Dec 2 2005 23:51 utc | 2

The abysmal shoddiness of their lies is perhaps meant not to misinform but simply to humiliate by the sheer breadth of the insult to what’s left of our intelligence. Like the torture rooms, like Gitmo and the CIA Fying Dutchman planes and the ghost detainees, which are not about information gathering.

Posted by: Tantalus | Dec 2 2005 23:57 utc | 3

over 100 pblic relation companies for the resistance

Posted by: r’giap | Dec 2 2005 23:59 utc | 4

another kind of truth – stan goff

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 3 2005 1:51 utc | 5

Is W back in Washington from his Thanksgiving TX vacation yet? That’s possibly why I’m feeling so safe as I turned my head to tell Bernard Kerik the other night when we were leaving the strip club.

Posted by: christofay | Dec 3 2005 4:02 utc | 6

The Burning Zone
Totally. Circle the wagons!
You have ‘Syriana’ and ‘Paradise Now’ coming to the flicks this week. The US calvary has arrived!
‘Syriana’ comes from a gifted director and a screenplay adaptation of a popular spy memoir. ‘Paradise Now’ is an f-indie. Both are being distributed by a specialty division of Warner Brothers, a division of AOL-Time-Warner, the *largest global media corporation*. Jeffrey L. Bewkes is T-M’s Entertainment & Networks Group Chairman, and a former taskforce member for ‘U.S.-Cuban Relations in the 21st Century’, of the Council on Foreign Relations, publishers of the rag ‘Foreign Affairs’, [Foreignaffairs.org], which spends an *awful* amount of ink addressing Terrorism, Freedom, Democracy (and Red Kool-Aid).
Sound familiar?
Also you have ‘Sleeper Cell’ coming on Showtime TV this week, a cheap piece of anthrax tripe, along with more ’24 Hours’ on Fox. Fox is owned by News Corporation’s Rupert Murdoch.
Murdoch *invented* Red Kool-Aid. F–k Fox.
Showtime is owned by Viacom. Viacom is the *second largest global media conglomerate*, owned by Sumner Redstone. He and the Bush Family became forceably joined at the hip in 2004. Redstone now drinks from Murdoch’s Red Kool-Aid bottle:
“The New York Times’s Frank Rich wrote October 14, 2004: “The current White House has been practicing pre-emptive media intimidation to match its policy of preemptive war. Its F.C.C. chairman, using Janet Jackson’s breast and Howard Stern’s mouth as pretexts, has sufficiently rattled Viacom, which broadcast both of these entertainers’ infractions against ‘decency,’ that its chairman, the self-described ‘liberal Democrat’ Sumner Redstone, abruptly announced his support for the re-election of George W. Bush last month. ‘I vote for what’s good for Viacom,’ he explained, and he meant it. He took this loyalty oath just days after the 60 Minutes fiasco prompted a full-fledged political witch hunt on Viacom’s CBS News, another Republican target since the Nixon years.”
link
Together Viacom, Fox and Time-Warner **completely control** the American cinevideo thought-space.
Both, independently together, decided to release fast-paced action-adventure terrorist celluloids in the same week, as the BushCo fortunes crash upon the rocks of Middle East reality, and the first cries come from Congress to pull out now.
If you can’t connect the dots, go back to sleep!

Posted by: tante aime | Dec 3 2005 4:07 utc | 7

I’m sorry … that ol’ anti-egalitarianism again.
Movies take at least 18 months from screenplay through approvals, and into production space. Filming, post and distribution takes *at least* another 18 months. With the proper focus group, ‘Syriana’ could’ve been scripted and pre-funded by political interests as late as May 2003, and still made it to the theatres by November 2005, just 30 months later.
Paradise Now is a f-indie, self-funded and shot on the fly, but still,
since it’s about Palestinian insurgents, what are the chances it would have been distributed in a Zionist-dominated American thought-space,
unless it served to reinforce a Zionist cattle-stampede on Americans?
’24 Hours’ is pure transparent red-baiting. ‘Sleeper Cell’ is psy-ops.
Capiche?

Posted by: tante aime | Dec 3 2005 4:23 utc | 8

Propaganda or stupid editor? Both me thinks.

Elsewhere in Iraq on Friday, U.S. and Iraqi troops continued to wage separate offensives in Ramadi and in Hit, another Anbar city. They are the latest in a string of counterinsurgency operations conducted in the province, which commanders have described as a haven for foreign fighters entering Iraq from Syria.
No coalition casualties were reported in either operation. The military also announced Friday that three soldiers had died in a vehicle accident north of Baghdad and a Marine in Ramadi was killed Thursday when the vehicle he was riding in was struck by a rocket.

WaPo

Posted by: b | Dec 3 2005 7:07 utc | 9

tante aime, you know, Fox also shows The Simpsons, so Murdoch might care more about the money to be made from the show rather than its satire.
Read the Rolling Stone review for Syriana and then please explain to me how it is promoting a Bush agenda, please.
I don’t think the dots connect in this case. Clooney, who is in Syriana, also made Good night and Good Luck which I recommend if you haven’t seen it. The movie uses old footage from McCarthy during his hearings, and others in the legislature who finally stood up to him…
Baer’s book, See No Evil has a ops pov, from the bits of it I’ve read. Here’s a Buzzflash interview with him about his second book, Sleeping with the Devil.
The writer on the film did the script for the Hweird version of Traffick (I recommend the BBC version, you can probably rent it for free at your local public library.)
I guess I don’t see how the movie Syriana is some Bush propaganda. Clooney was also in Three Kings, an excellent movie, and more honest than most things I see from Hweird about the wider world and war.
Syriana is supposed to be one of those “impressive” holiday movies that was released at this time, no doubt, to position it for Oscar nominations so that more ppl will go see it and so that it will make more money. That’s also the standard for “prestige” films.
I don’t know very much about Paradise Now, but this review seems more nuanced than what I was able to get from what you wrote above.
But again, this is the time of year for “serious movies” rather than summer blockbusters ala Star Wars. This has been the cycle of distribution for at least twenty years.

Posted by: fauxreal | Dec 3 2005 8:53 utc | 10

damn fauxreal, you just went and punctured that dumb ol’ balloon that was pumped up with a lot of hot air and not a lot else. It’s always amusing to see a paranoid clown’s flight of fancy brought crashing down to earth but you were kinda gentle with it.
“see? the dots! look at the dots! if you join that one to that one there, and ignore all the other ones, and stretch those two and link them to those three over there and then weave it all together with some mumbo jumbo gibberish you’ve got to be blind to miss it! or to see it.
When you’re around again fauxreal, if you could give us a working link to the Paradise Now review (if it isn’t this one) that would be (genuinely) interesting.

Posted by: Sans d-lysergic saure diethylamide | Dec 3 2005 9:16 utc | 11

@fauxreal – agree
@Sans whatever It’s always amusing to see a paranoid clown’s flight
Paranoid clown using an IP anonymiser service? Sure you are paranoid enough?

Posted by: b | Dec 3 2005 9:54 utc | 12

Thanks for the link Sans…
Here’s the one I meant to post. But yours is better.
I’m also grateful because Ebert mentions The Tempest, from India. I couldn’t remember the name of that one when I did the first post.
Times sure are different…I remember seeing that one and it seemed more like a psychological drama than about terrorism per se…
Now Ebert has to apologize for a movie that doesn’t demonize anyone who acts in a way that resembles anything we fear, and yet know so little about at the same time.

Posted by: fauxreal | Dec 3 2005 10:07 utc | 13

If one were to read “A Clean Break: Securing the Realm” and “Statement of Principles” of PNAC, then see three buildings, each fall shockingly in on itself, in a relatively neat pile of rubble, how can one be too paranoid?
Add to that the bizarre lack of investigation into the inconsistencies of the incident, the paralysis of the Democratic party, the blatant lying of the media and the politicians, the normalizing of intrusion into our personal movements and communications, the militarization of the police and response to natural disasters, and now the more prevalent use of false news, distractive news, and the acceptance of proliferation of propaganda. Just to name a few changes in the last 4 years.
Of course we won’t talk of the absurdities in the build up to the war and the seemingly incompetent way the war has been conducted leading to the destuction of Iraq.
On a bad day, one could look at this and say, they are preparing us for the day we all wake up and realize what has transpired, that these documents are the blueprints, that we have been had, and there is not much we will be able to do about it.
Yes, on certain days, my paranoia borders on hysteria.

Posted by: anon | Dec 3 2005 13:09 utc | 14

& today on both cnnbbc – the ten dead marines dissapeared even in this man’s army such a spectacular hit goes withou mention
not only are the soldiers dishonoured but tactical connaissance of the insurgency is forgotten because, as always, the truth hurts
how can the american people not understand that heir children are being sacrificed for political objectives which are unattainable but which are under the circumstances, imbecilic

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 3 2005 15:53 utc | 15

children are being sacrificed
Only our warrior class makes those sacrifices.

Posted by: slothrop | Dec 3 2005 16:18 utc | 16

tow the line or you’re out

– The State Department has been using political litmus tests to screen private American citizens before they can be sent overseas to represent the United States, weeding out critics of the Bush administration’s Iraq policy, according to department officials and internal e-mails.
In one recent case, a leading expert on conflict resolution who’s a former senior State Department adviser was scheduled to participate in a U.S. Embassy-sponsored videoconference in Jerusalem last month, but at the last minute he was told that his participation no longer was required.
State Department officials explained the cancellation as a scheduling matter. But internal department e-mails show that officials in Washington pressed to have other scholars replace the expert, David L. Phillips, who wrote a book, “Losing Iraq,” that’s critical of President Bush’s handling of Iraqi reconstruction.
“I was told by a senior U.S. official that the State Department was conducting a screening process on intellectuals, and those who were against the Bush administration’s Iraq policy were not welcomed to participate in U.S. government-sponsored programs,” Phillips said.

Posted by: annie | Dec 3 2005 16:48 utc | 17

what stan goff makes perfectly clear even as an ex sldier & a father of a soldier – that there is no warrior class – just an old fashoned meat grinding machine

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Dec 3 2005 19:16 utc | 18

You overestimate the amount of contact the “people” have w/ the war. A whole generation–all the twenty somethings–expect wars to be fought by the pros. Soldiering now is a vocation, an exchange-value, and most twenty-somethings understand this. This is why it’s hard for “people” to be outraged by the “sacrifices” of soldiers.
The “volunteer army” has surely created a soldier-class who fight for their country, sure, but more importantly, fight for opportunities unavailable to them outside of military service.
This situation is both disgusting and dangerous: The poor must offer themselves as sacrifices for economic gain, and are united by the continuous preparation for war. Class consciousness is replaced by martial solidarity. As we know from the exploits of Sulla in the late Roman Republic,
this can be a big problem when the soldiers decide to collect what they think is owed to them from “the people.”

Posted by: slothrop | Dec 3 2005 20:43 utc | 19

I am coming to see belief in the lies as close to religious.
As an atheist, I nevertheless have much sympathy and understanding for religious belief. I see it as a personal construct based on pure faith – a way to find and grasp love, care (and thus morality) in the abstract, that which is outside and inside of us, the indefinable.
Fine. I can relate to that.
But Saddam’s wmd, the 9/11 catastrophe, the crazy invasion, and all the rest, concern facts on the ground. Facts, moreover, that are today readily available… rationality, pragmaticism, empiricism, should hold sway, particularly in Anglo-American culture. But no; the lies are believed, by enough people for them to constitute a ‘standard’ – The Ministry of Truth does its job well. That’s the frightening thing – not the lies themselves.
I travelled in Poland, Romania, Yugoslavia, Bulgaria before the fall of the wall (85 – 89). I did not meet one single person who thought that their Gvmt. was telling them the truth, that their Gvmt. was righteous, was on the right track, or was handling things well.
Yes, I did meet party cadres. They were apologetic, embarassed; or bored and angry; or told me they were double agents and offered me vodka; or explained in great detail how the various crazy rules meshed into each other… Now, all these attitudes were perhaps adjusted to suit the foreign visitor. Actualised for me, they existed nonetheless; they were part of the repertoire, part of the possible, part of reality.
Some intellectuals pointed to achievements of the Communist regimes – highly articulate and educated, they tended towards historical sweeps – e.g. starting with the Romanovs, as they figured I’d at least have heard of them! One die-hard Marxist made subtle arguments, creating odd bridges betwen theory and daily life; I cannot remember the content, only the smoke filled room, the shouting waiters, the drinks… but apologia it was not. This was the lofty view of the universal plight of mankind, material for a weighty book. Stumbling into the dawn, nothing was resolved, but people could embrace and say: hope for better days.
Fin de règne was palpable in the dusty streets, sweating walls, the defeated mien of American Communists, installed in a three-room flat; the furious women, furtive smokers, stoned cab-drivers, spitting, swearing, party flunky…All had big mouths and a lot to say.
I’ll be in the US on 24 Dec. I have been asked not to ‘talk politics’ and no doubt will have to quietly leave while some part of the company says a prayer for the troops, or for Bush, or ..
College graduates! Well paid engineers! ..
There is a lot left to understand…

Posted by: Noisette | Dec 3 2005 21:31 utc | 20

I have been asked not to ‘talk politics’ and no doubt will have to quietly leave while some part of the company says a prayer for the troops, or for Bush, or…
@Noisette, asked by who – yr. corporation, family…? That in itself is frightening.
State of mind here is best summed up as Fear…waiting for the Other Shoe to Drop. Whether that shoe is the crashing of the housing bubble/currency, or the final shredding of the Constitution.
(Dan Ellsberg said publicly that this period reminds him of the pre-Reichstag Fire Period – and yes, he thinks it most probable that the fire was an “inside job” to consolidate power. When discussing the Torture bu$co’s authorized, he noted that after the next incident, he expects to be tortured. Yes, Dan Ellsberg expects to be tortured by the xAm. govt. for his work on behalf of the Republic.)
Anything else you want to know in advance of yr. trip?
(When writing of this time, the language is no longer adequate, as the old words don’t mean what they used to. The Emphasis has been changed. I find myself capitalizing the significant events to emphasize the horro – like Torture – but being unable to honor the monsters ordering & legitimating such acts by even capitalizing their names. During the recent confirmation hearings for recent scotus nominee, he indicated that he found it perfectly legal for the state to execute completely innocent citizens.)

Posted by: jj | Dec 3 2005 22:06 utc | 21

Noisette-
Don’t feel like the Lone Ranger. I mentioned the “Bush Abu Ghraib Angel on the Christmas Tree on the White House Lawn” photoshop to send to family…but since I want to speak to them again in this lifetime, I will probably only send an email with it to ppl who already detest Booosh.
…And people in America think it’s their right to have you “participate” in their religious activities whether you want to or not…all you have to do is stand still with your eyes open and you’ll notice others are going along to get along…tho some are true believers. They do it to save your soul, they think. It’s annoying nevertheless.
Where I live, I’ve had words on the street with various people…mostly men…because of a shirt I was wearing that they didn’t like (most likely the one with Bush’s head on the top of a pez dispenser, mouth open, with pez-shaped lies falling out—courtesy of MoPaul).
Even people who detest Bush don’t always like to hear the bad things because they know it requires an action on their part to recognize how horrible things really are.
I was thinking about that today when I was out and about taking care of this and that…at what point does denial fall away…is it only when the slide toward devastation has reached its destination?
But, put your head down, don’t say “uncomfortable” things (i.e. the truth), don’t question “the way things are” –those are the ways you have to behave in most biz sitches to keep on paying the bills…and most people don’t want to have to think beyond that issue…paying the bills…because the rest is so butt-ugly nasty. those who know this can pretend they don’t if they keep their mouths shut. Because govt seems shut off from the ppl– the american govt seems like the huge, cumbersome titanic right now….too big and too much hubris to change direction.
I don’t know what it was like just before the fall, but I remember earlier on when people would approach you on the street in Moscow to buy jeans off your back…side, and people would sit in the airport for hours because of some “official” problem with a group of totally harmless high school students…and having to tie on a seatbelt on an aeroflot plane and suck on a candy that was handed out to help with that air pressure thing…
And then, at the ballet, it was like the Kennedy Center, except lots more people in uniform…or the subways, with the chandeliers and mosaics…except there was no buffet at intermission on the subway….but it was a whole other world from those babas on the street sweeping up cig butts.
That was when I didn’t see any difference b/t capitalism and communism…except capitalism seemed more open about its class structures and inequality.
So let me know the temperature you take on the street. Is it Weimar on the Potomac?

Posted by: fauxreal | Dec 4 2005 11:43 utc | 22

Say a prayer for the common foot soldier” Lyrics Link

Our propaganda re the Vietnam War and the themes of our Global War on Terra and the Iraq and Afghan Wars … times change, yet the blatantly manipulative themes and propaganda remain the same …
Communist worldwide conspiracy = Al-Qaeda terrorists
Child like South Vietnamese = ‘Good’ Iraqi’s (suppressed, protected)
Evil, brutal Communist sponsored North Vietnamese = Iraqi Insurgents
Prized Writing –

‘DO WE GET TO WIN THIS TIME ?’

Modern basic military training is sanitized, but all the same, a somewhat brutal and dehumanizing process by which the military strips young ‘malleable’ men of their identities and shapes them into ‘useful’ killing machines. The production of soldiers who are inculcated with the myths of American national and racial superiority, as well as the inferiority of those Third World peoples, the ‘others’.
The myth of American uniqueness … American character can be put to use defending both good and ill intentions … the years roll by and yet we are manipulated again and again by soulless old men whose hearts are filled with venal greed for ever more power and wealth … will we ever really learn ?

‘Defense Secretary Donald H. Rumsfeld and Wolfowitz derided a general’s claim that pacifying Iraq would take several hundred thousand U.S. troops.
And Rumsfeld, in February 2003, predicted that the war “could last six days, six weeks. I doubt six months …”’

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 4 2005 12:51 utc | 23

Thanks for the comments and advice… I feel better! Much.
My heart is lighter.
I will visit family, friends – a grand get-together.
I am viewed as disturbing, or seriously disturbed, because I opened my mouth about 9/11 two years ago. And spoke, glass in hand (hiccup!) for close on to an hour.
Being a ‘Bush hater’ is Ok, as long as one takes into account the sensibilities of the two new wives who adore him, and provided one stays within the strict frame of partisan politics, defending Bill and Hill and pretending to be a European Socialist who is in any case genetically suspicious of “Amerika”, the French model is best, dontcha know, different societies all that. Argh.
This will be up in Maine –
The US branch of the family is divided and prefers no confrontation.

Posted by: Noisette | Dec 4 2005 16:16 utc | 24

Veiled ode to George Bush deleted from Pakistani textbooks ???
At first sight it is little more than a poetic polemic about the virtues of an effective leader. But a poem has been removed from school textbooks in Pakistan after it became clear that the first letter of each line spelt out “President George W Bush”…

Posted by: Outraged | Dec 5 2005 13:22 utc | 25