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December 26, 2005
OT – 05-132
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U.S. Missteps Leave Iraqis in the Dark
There’s a talking heads show on the BBC Monday morning in NZ that prolly makes it Sunday afternoon in UK. It features reporters from media outlets around the globe who are based in london plus one Englishman from an English Daily. Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 26 2005 10:52 utc | 2
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 26 2005 11:50 utc | 3 Not to change the subject, but perhaps amplify it, Pat Buchanan’s column in Antiwar.com today concludes: “America needs a new vision. America needs a new foreign policy.” Posted by: Wolf DeVoon | Dec 26 2005 14:00 utc | 4 Interesting article here about the demise of a moronic propaganda mag targeted to Middle East hipsters here.
Hmmm, “democratically expressed domestic opinion”. Guess that’s a euphemism for well-financed pro-Israel lobbying groups that makes sure anyone in power that goes off the reservation on our shitty little “ally” (has there ever been a more one-sided alliance? We write the 10-figure checks, they do whatever the fuck they want to) soon lives to regret it. Posted by: ran | Dec 26 2005 14:14 utc | 5 Back when I owned a TV, I was watching Fox News Sunday morning, 06/17/01, being hosted in the first segment then by Tony Snow. The lead off guest was now former the US Secretary of State, Colin Powell . Mr.Powell gave an excellent recitation relevant to foreign affair matters.
So if they have access to ‘streams’ of communications from the Tier 1 Points Of Presecne (POPs) of the major carriers, basically they’re packet snooping on the voice and data traffic of a large portion of the country. Yes, probably something greater than 99.9% is sniffed and ignored, but that’s a guess and I could be wrong. Point is it’s sniffed in the first place, in warentless fashion, and that kind of data mining even if approved by a warrant would set a frightening precedent. And buried later in the story…
Now that I know this was a vast and sweeping data mining operation, I actually feel a little better. Civil liberties violations divided by 290 million must be a smaller number than civil liberties violations divided by, say, American Muslims and the residents of Berkley. And all this time I thought baby Powell was just a lackey for the ILECs while all along he was actually a lackey for Cheney. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 26 2005 14:48 utc | 6 BIRD FLU PREPPING – BROKAW HAS DONE IT, KOPPEL PLANS TO Posted by: mistah charley | Dec 26 2005 15:38 utc | 7 @mistah charley Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 26 2005 16:27 utc | 8 Israel To Expand West Bank Settlements Posted by: tgs | Dec 26 2005 16:38 utc | 9 With regards to Israel: Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 26 2005 17:27 utc | 10 Jesus General has found out what you get when you google “Baby Jesus” @b, Posted by: Rowan | Dec 26 2005 19:02 utc | 12 Polyponesian, Polyponesian, Polyponesian Posted by: Loose Shanks | Dec 27 2005 3:48 utc | 13 I wish we knew more of the specifics of the electoral fraud because neither the Iraqi government nor the US will say anything other than”serious allegations have been made which even if true wouldn’t effect the outcome.’ Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 27 2005 8:16 utc | 14 Debs, Posted by: anna missed | Dec 27 2005 9:06 utc | 15 Secret court modified wiretap requests Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 27 2005 15:11 utc | 16 MSNBC has an impeachment poll up. First I have seen and it looks bad for the chimp. Posted by: dan of steele | Dec 28 2005 0:11 utc | 17 Although I must admit a certain glee flushes my visage when I find evidence of English perfidy, I link to this story because it has within it the certain outcomes of combining completely wanton and unregulated telephone snooping, kidnapping in foreign countries and torture. This was all powered by a regime desperate to divert attention from the real cause; a greedy failed and unjust Middle East policy. So by blaming Muslim Fundamentalism the morally bankrupt leadership could ‘slip off the hook’. Sound familiar?
In a nutshell the reducing costs of data storage means that all telephone calls emails, IRC messages, ICQ, M$ Messenger, blogs, the works in fact, can be stored and held on server farms for easy access. Because’unfortunately’ the cost of seperating the wheat from the chaff and ‘only’ keeping the ‘good’ stuff is higher than keeping everything, everything IS kept! Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 28 2005 0:27 utc | 18 @ DID
Thanks also for the link to Balkinization, which seems Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 28 2005 6:57 utc | 19 Now I really must have lost my mind. When was the last time I blew up a wedding?
In this interview Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 28 2005 8:10 utc | 21 Hanna, Posted by: anna missed | Dec 28 2005 11:28 utc | 23 Thanks for that Chomsky bit.
How exactly do I know that I will not be next one to “mistakenly renditioned”? How do you know? @b Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 28 2005 19:40 utc | 25 @DiD – you are right about the weddings in question, but I was wondering why they scan my calls and emails to the U.S. I really don´t remember blowing up a wedding, commuter train or a church. Robert Fisk yesterday had a nice OpEd in the LA Times about the U.S. media problem:
@b I kinda guessed that and when I went off at a tangent I wasn’t trying to make light of anyone who communicates into and out of the US and suffers fascist intrusion. In fact the only real difference is that presumably those communications were protected up until BushCo took over whereas all others (ie communications that orginated and terminated outside the US) were not. Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 28 2005 21:16 utc | 29 Here’s a chuckle it appears to be some BushCo publicist or whitehouse spinner’s quick draft up of the sort of books that Dubya should read over the holidays.
but the kicker that tells us that Dubya was off on planet Martini (easy on the vermouth) or somewhere akin when a flunky drew up this press release is this:
That’s a kicker because if anything Woodward says can still be believed THIS was Dubya’s view on history not so long ago:
What we need is someone to run a book giving odds on whether a reporter asks him for his opinion on Teddy Roosevelt in retirement or a really brave reporter asking W what he thought of Robert Kaplan’s crticism of Bush’s ‘War on Terra’. Posted by: Debs is dead | Dec 29 2005 4:05 utc | 30 Wayne Madsen keeps the FISA spigot dripping. The Bushites will have no trouble defending Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 29 2005 9:12 utc | 31 From HKOL’s link:
Now things begin to make more sense. The intelligence community, the CIA in particular, has been an adversary in the Cheney administration’s drive to consolidate power and maintain secrecy. The CIA resisted producing and endorsing Cheney’s manufactured intelligence about Iraq and the intelligence community has been the source of some public leaks damaging to the administration. Goss was sent to the CIA to contain their resistance as much as possible. The CIA was also banished from being represented at White House meetings (representation now handled by loyalist Michael Chertoff). The journalist names are people who have published information Cheney @ Co saw as harmful or critical. The spying is an attempt to find and punish leakers so that internal sources of damaging information dry up. The journalists are believed to be likely receivers of leaked information. Posted by: lonesomeG | Dec 29 2005 13:38 utc | 32 “Goss was sent to the CIA to contain their resistance as much as possible.” Posted by: Pat | Dec 30 2005 1:31 utc | 33 So where the hell are the regulars? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Dec 30 2005 3:43 utc | 35 lonesomeG- The primary purpose of the spying program is probably to find leakers and close them down, punishing them severely enough that no one else will be tempted to leak.
as chomsky keeps pointing out
and if WH spokesperson trent duffy really said of gwb, “He is an avid reader.”, that’s more than a chuckle, debs, that’s enough to make a person’s cage start hurtin’. Posted by: b real | Dec 30 2005 5:08 utc | 36 “Take a look at declassified documents, secret documents. Why is it kept secret? [It’s] almost never for security reasons, not from the enemy, they mostly know it anyway.” Posted by: Pat | Dec 30 2005 6:44 utc | 37 maybe you’re parsing the terms “enemy” or “mostly” differently than noam, pat. those who are at the receiving end of most u.s. foreign policy seem to have a pretty clear idea of what’s going on & why. they might not break all of the military communications, but the larger policies/details are known. this is the information age, after all.
now that the air war has stepped up again in iraq, surely a parallel to stockwell’s example can be made. but it’s not exactly a secret either, as that we know about it already here at home. the problem is that secrecy is only possible when people want to remain willfully ignorant, and those usually at the receiving end don’t have that luxury.
Posted by: b real | Dec 30 2005 8:06 utc | 38 Editorial Note: Good luck with that, b. Posted by: jonku | Dec 30 2005 9:18 utc | 40 The Yorkshire Ranter has an excellent post on US complicity in torture in Uzbekistan, by a credible and well-informed source. Required reading. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 30 2005 9:33 utc | 41 Oops, bad link. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Dec 30 2005 9:37 utc | 42 |
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