To me, the New Pravda‘s role in the Iraq debacle resembles the part played by William Randolph Hearst’s New York Journal in the far more successful Spanish-American War.
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October 24, 2005
WB: The New Pravda‘s Lost Year
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Can You Super-Size a Sulzberger?
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Oct 24 2005 6:54 utc | 1 The list of NYT’s crimes is very long. This just looks worse because they a) collaborated w/such an infantile Admin. in such a badly conceived operation; and, b) guys have such intense sexual antagonism toward JMiller. Posted by: jj | Oct 24 2005 7:16 utc | 2 Is’nt this just “playing it dumb”, in the hopes that “kicking the can down the road” far enough that, we can all now be implored to “not dwell on the past, but look to the future”? Not unlike the Iraqi constitution referendum (and the vote count) this is the part of the horror movie where we best cover our eyes and scream, in anxious anticipation of the next scene, where all is back to normal. I must wonder though, if Judy has not in some sense, rebelled to her re-casted role as the axe murderer, and as such is holding the grey lady hostage in a ” last act of desperatation” to retain her heroine and double crossed status. A woman scorned? Posted by: anna missed | Oct 24 2005 7:58 utc | 3 I agree that it’s now obvious to those who pay attention (a small minority, but not without influence) that the Times was a cog in the War-on-Iraq wheel. Whose hand was driving that wheel still remains publicly unresolved, but it doesn’t require great acumen to see at least some of the American protagonists as working, in some cases consciously and duplicitously, for another nation. Why don’t we hear the word “treason” to describe this state of affairs? Is treason a word that can only be pronounced Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 24 2005 8:11 utc | 4 Judith Miller responds to the Times ombudsdman. The veil of institutional gravity has fallen, and pure acrimony is advancing to center stage. Or is that an elephant lumbering into visibility? Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 24 2005 10:04 utc | 5 Judith Miller responds to the Times ombudsdman. The veil of institutional gravity has fallen, and pure acrimony is advancing to center stage. Or is that an elephant lumbering into visibility? Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 24 2005 10:23 utc | 6 slightly OT
Who did advise them? The only sense I can make from this is that these guys did get target letters from the prosectuter. If that is the case the NYT should says so, because it is serious news. The fact that Keller refers to the WMD disinformation campaign as an “intel fiasco” shows he still richly deserves the nickname “Helen.” His notion that the NYT did, ultimately, make full amends is ludicrous, especially in light of its failure last spring to write about the Downing Street memos. Posted by: ralphbon | Oct 24 2005 11:31 utc | 9 What Keller is admitting, of course, is that when it came to the WMD story — and the care and feeding of Judy Miller — he was powerless in the face of his publisher’s passionate dedication to her and her mission.
Translated: Please don’t subpeona us too Mr. Fitgerald. We weren’t obstructing justice. We really knew nothing, honest. Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 24 2005 11:33 utc | 10 Update:
Judy has now droppped the bomb that the Times knew about the Flame note – in direct conflict to what Bill (Sgt. Shultz) Keller claimed last week (quoted above). Posted by: Night Owl | Oct 24 2005 11:55 utc | 13 . . . so there is presumably the lawyer-client priviledge. Still, that would make the lawyer”team” no more that rote functionaries, i.e., they told me to defend Judy no matter what, including participation in all sorts of conspiracies related to national security. Posted by: DonS | Oct 24 2005 13:52 utc | 14 Pat Buchanan fires some well-deserved salvos at the NYTimes and the Democrat “opposition”. My favorite zinger
Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 24 2005 15:51 utc | 15 Interesting that NYT would choose this time to send Keller off to China to get him out of the line of fire. Posted by: jj | Oct 24 2005 20:40 utc | 16 Typo coverate ->coverage. Posted by: jj | Oct 24 2005 20:45 utc | 17 Hannah, Posted by: Rowan | Oct 24 2005 20:58 utc | 18 I hereby present two honorary “George Carlin Bullshit Detection Awards” to Billmon and Night Owl for their excellence here for they’ve both earned it for catching the Pravda’s pathetic excuses and giving them the telltale “Pffffffffffffft!” in response. the whore media have shown for decades now in whose service they work. overtime. constructing institutions of fear. nourishing negligance in itself & its ‘public’ Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 25 2005 1:27 utc | 20 r’giap the only suprising thing about these Miller revelations is that we the public keep falling for it.
My grandfather had a large sheep station in the high country and he had become so angry at the way people’s good nature was cynically used by the media and the establishment that he turned the shepherd’s huts dotted around the place over to “Shirkers”. These were young men who had fled the cities to avoid the compulsory conscription that was brought in. Apparently once people woke up to the lies they stopped volunteering. Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 25 2005 5:12 utc | 21 Thanks, Debs. Did your Grandfather win and get a library rather than a wretched statue built? Posted by: jj | Oct 25 2005 5:23 utc | 22 @jj The pragmatic presbyterians decided that this was one time that money wasn’t the most important issue and Glenorchy is still graced with a statue and a library (LOL). Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 25 2005 6:49 utc | 23 One of my favorite reporters, has a very worthwhile Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 25 2005 6:57 utc | 24 @ b real Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 25 2005 15:39 utc | 26 Good post but check that Hearst quote. I think I remember hearing that the quote was actually from Citizen Kane, and not from Hearst himself. Posted by: bob gardner | Oct 25 2005 17:46 utc | 27 |
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