And if Dobson thinks the confirmation process is "grueling" now, just wait until he’s deposed on all those things he "wasn’t supposed to know."
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October 17, 2005
WB: Subpoena City
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So how is it that a Judge can know the verdict before the trial? Perhaps I’m missing something here.
Posted by: edwin | Oct 17 2005 16:31 utc | 1
I can’t get excited over this Plame and Miers stuff. I can’t shake the feeling that none of this truly matters; we’re discussing the fate of Caligula’s horse here. As to punishment for Cheney and his ilk, don’t make me laugh: look at Kissinger, McNamara, G. Gordon Liddy… In the end, there will be no justice, this is musical chairs on the Titanic.
Posted by: Lupin | Oct 17 2005 16:54 utc | 3
And how many years have we been listening to the neocon wacko’s whining about “activist judges?”
Posted by: Mr Avid | Oct 17 2005 16:55 utc | 4
That Fund article sounds very well sourced and closes the dock.
That is the end of the Miers nomination, she will step back tomorrow or Wednesday. Too early in my view. This makes it much to easy for Bush to come up with a “better” candidate that will require a filibuster and the nuclear option. Enough media time to keep the eyes off other stuff.
(BTW: what have they planed to drown the media with while Fitzgerald announces his cases?)
INCITATA! (caligula’s horse was Incitatus).
Fitting name.
Posted by: eftsoons | Oct 17 2005 17:12 utc | 6
what have they planed to drown the media with while Fitzgerald announces his cases?
possibles?
I have always maintained that one of their tight spot contingency plans was to have a couple of Cuban Poppy loyalists wearing I heart Osama (or Free Saddam) tee shirts set off something which would put a photo/mediagenic ding in the pedestal of the Statue of Liberty.
Some of that low-toxin animal vaccine strain anthrax that the pentagon just ordered up could be spritzed around to set off the detectors.
The announcement that Osama died in the earthquake which proves that George Dubya is a chosen one? Could be a good way to flush Osama out. Even if they don’t manage to capture him as a result …
etc.
etc.
they may have to be a little heavy-handed. People are jaded.
This worries me.
Posted by: eftsoons | Oct 17 2005 18:15 utc | 7
Why no MoA link to WB’s “Jigsaw” post?
I’ve been waiting for Cheney to be indicted over Plame for a long time. Let’s hope Fitzgerald doesn’t disappoint!
Posted by: Pyesetz the Dog | Oct 17 2005 18:19 utc | 8
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tha latest i heard was that there were 10,000 taiban gorsemen heading towards washington – riding over oceans as these superior warriors are wont to do – so there will be a red alert – vecause of course each warrior will have a little birdflu in his sack & an icbm or xocet if you prefer for each ten men – surely you can hear them galloping now
or perhaps another radio fireside chat by osama suggesting counsellor fitgerald is in his employ & is only carrying out his campaign against the miscreants
or abramoff gets his 10,000 ex cuban hoods from jeds place & holds washington hostage while delay pleads for his lord
or perhaps frist does a gall badder operation on bush & it gos terribly wrong
who can tell
all the narratives are possible in this, the 5th circle of hell
Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 17 2005 18:27 utc | 9
I’m betting he’ll chew his own leg off
could we get a photoshop image of this please?
i rather enjoy watching the feeding frenzy when they turn on themselves.
Posted by: annie | Oct 17 2005 19:43 utc | 10
… (continued)
Tularemia in a teapot.
We have become a nation of hypochondriacs and neurasthenics. It means jobs. MediCorps shareholders would benefit if the industry could stop pissing away all that money on marketing and “public service” programming. This could be accomplished with a statutory requirement that each citizen undergo at least one major surgery per year. But I rant …
ALARUMS !!
source
The reason they never found tularemia there before is — they never looked for it.
Posted by: eftsoons | Oct 17 2005 20:02 utc | 11
what have they planed to drown the media with while Fitzgerald announces his cases?
Day/few at most after indictments:
“I appreciate that the justice system has completed it’s work. But we are a Nation at War. I have asked the scotus, which I’ve packed, to approve my pardons for these Outstanding Public Servants. They have made a mistake, but we all make mistakes. They are essential to the war on terra. we would be in danger w/out them. Our fine men & women would have to stay in Iraq much longer without them. that our justice system has worked so well is a tribute to what a shining example of democracy america is.” Idiot-in-Chief
(maybe they’ll sprinkle a bit of Satan Dust about before hand to distract – if necessary.)
Did everyone notice that Bloomberg figured if the terra shit worked for DC, it’d work for NYC…announced that garbage day of/day before there were to be mayoral debates…His polls have skyrocketed since. If new yorkers are that gullible, there’s no hope for rest of the country. It’s what you call redefining Incumbent Advantage…since they’ve bankrupted the Treasury so there’s not much $$ to spread around, just haul out the Satan Dust, or threats thereof & down go the Dems…Hell, the Traitors don’t even need DieBold to do their dirty work anymore…How many states can they pull this off in??? Curious minds want to know???
Posted by: jj | Oct 17 2005 20:36 utc | 12
Its just about time for a rant about Ram Dass/ Richard Alpert .
A very complicated chap who made the mistake of thinking that an organised religion from another culture wouldn’t be just another corrupt method of providing the rationale for elites to control the rest of us.
However there is one story I remember hearing him tell (yeah some of my mates got caught up in this claptrap when they were too young to know any better) of a mob of convicts who decided that if they agreed amongst themselves, that they were living in a monastry, then the only people still in prison would be the guards.
That’s getting close to the situation normal human beings find themselves in as the levers of power have all fallen into the hands of corrupt, selfish and incompetent pricks.
So if the rest of us decide amongst ourselves that these low lifes are just that; sociopathic ne’er do wells with delusions of grandeur, then what they do and say become no more important than the bloke wandering down the street shouting out that the Archangel Gabriel told him “The End is Nigh”.
These guys are vulnerable to their own weaponry. They do their worst using the MSM to spread their poison.
Many in the media are willing participants to this farce because it works and gets themselves a little taste of power.
But don’t be fooled. BushCo gets control of the spotlight because we follow its movements around the stage.
In the end the media are prepared to use anything as a filler between commercials as long as the maximum achievable number of ‘consumers’ watches the ‘give me your money spiels’ afterwards.
If nobody watched or read about the dog and pony shows that BushCo term a press conference or a photo opp, the media would stop inflicting this foul persona upon us and look for something we are prepared to watch.
Once out of the media spotlight BushCo would be as powerful as the “The End is Nigh” fellow.
Yeah at first they would desperately up the ante by being even more over the top than before.
However if most people stayed staunch and stuck to their construct that there’s a lunatic by the name of Bush, W living in a mansion in a city absolutely chocka with other psychotic pricks determined to own everything, then these psychos would dscover they were actually powerless.
Trying to beat them at their own game is not only unlikely it will corrupt the resistance.
Ridiculous? Perhaps but unless the normal functioning humans on this planet can agree on a course of action suitably ‘outta the box’ to confuse the cabal of unimaginative theives who have managed to grab the controls, we’re stuffed.
Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 17 2005 21:11 utc | 13
@Pyesetz the Dog – I sometimes combine multiple Billmon posts in one discussion thread. The Jigsaw is here.
@DoD – Trying to beat them at their own game is not only unlikely it will corrupt the resistance. so true, now where is out of the box?
I like your ideas Debs but I’m interested in what you imagine we’d all be discussing over here then. Do you think we could summons up enough enthusiasm for those ‘outta the box’ actions that could turn our species around?
Posted by: Juannie | Oct 17 2005 21:45 utc | 16
@eftsoons
thanks for that link @4:02:26 PM
interesting enough, I just learned Judas Miller wrote a book on…
Drum roll please:
Germs: Biological Weapons and America’s Secret War by Judith Miller
This I was not aware of…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 18 2005 1:16 utc | 17
OK we can at least put the problem into a form that we should know which boxes to get them outta.
Once we’d done that MoA could devote itself to the really important issues like whether game developers will ever be free enough from the technological constraints of their craft that we will see games being sold that are works of art.
We won’t have to stop everything and race outside with a shifter to whack the machinery that runs our communities upside the head.
What we would be trying to do is manufacture non-consent so that people dont get herded like sheep into the mindset our elites determine.
On the surface it seems difficult to do this but remember everyone doesn’t need to share the same view they just need to reject the elite take on things.
Since the best outta the box original ideas seem to come from people while they are in mid to late 20’s we could hunt the earth for a young Chomsky or we could make sure that we frame the problem in a way that an ordinary person could suss it out by dint of hard work.
Two more things that could be considered. If the shared perception is offered up from one centralised location it becomes too easy for a greedhead to suborn the means of dissemination and use that methodolgy to turn everything on its head for his/her benefit.
Secondly even the best solution (ie akin to having people consider prison a monastery) won’t take if the community isn’t ready to grab it.
The good news is that people around the world are coming to the conclusion that their political process has been corrupted by low lifes. As well the period of time it takes for ‘democracy’ to shift from being popular at introduction to unpopular and wasteful seems to be dropping like a stone. Witness the Ukraine where pizza face didn’t even keep his citizen’s confidence for 12 months!
So by all means let’s define the ‘problem’ and kick around some possible remedies.
Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 18 2005 3:43 utc | 18
RNC to raise money to impeach Bush!!!
Not really but nearly: Right ups ante on Miers
many conservative intellectuals and the rank and file remain adamantly opposed to President Bush’s choice to replace Justice Sandra Day O’Connor.
David Frum, the former White House speechwriter who helped coin the phrase “axis of evil,” is coordinating the anti-Miers fundraising effort.
The first phase of the campaign is estimated to cost between $50,000 and $100,000. Frum declined to comment on how or when the money might be spent, whether on newspaper, radio or Internet advertisements.
Maybe Bush even has some method behind this all. Given the current state of the administration and its major players, if Miers is not currently under indictment for lying to a grand jury, laundering money or conspiring to torture prisoners, she should be a shoe-in for confirmation…
Posted by: ralphieboy | Oct 18 2005 19:23 utc | 20