And if the rest of the little piggies want to avoid being made into canned ham, they’d better hurry on down, too.
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October 19, 2005
WB: And This Little Piggy . . .
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This is how it always goes. Count on human nature, and the urge to save one’s own porcine butt.
Posted by: jm | Oct 19 2005 21:43 utc | 3
Check out TalkLeft–written by criminal attorney–which had a detailed analysis yesterday of Federal sentencing guidelines & the meaning to those facing indictment. http://talkleft.com/new_archives/012778.html
The conclusion:
“This is the week that all of the subjects facing Indictment will be faced with their “come to Jesus” moment. Spouses will be telling them to cut their losses and think of the family. They will be forced to juxtapose their loyalty to the Administration with their loyalty to their families and their interest in self-preservation.
My experience tells me that only those who truly believe they are innocent — and those whom Fitzgerald advises are looking at felonies and jail time even with a deal — will hold out.”
Posted by: opal | Oct 19 2005 22:04 utc | 4
It looks like Fitz is the big bad wolf and the WH will get blown down. Boy, thats an original thought. A little self flagulation never hurts.
I think this scandal is becoming more fun than a quarter bounce party. We have Judy, Judy, Judy, go get’em Goober. We have the slap heard throughout the Oval Office along side turb blossoms head. We have darth vaders cheif of staff (infection), Scooter, telling his be-otch Judy to shut up or he’ll bitch slap her.
We have Karl Roves wife opening the garage door to show, hey, Karl’s not f–king home. Is he with Jimmy/Jeff, his WH pass friend? Speaking of passes, how does a Jimmy/Jeff get a WH pass without being a journalist and Judy get a security clearance without being in the government. Could it be hackery? Hmmmmmmmmm.
I would post a serious discussion, but I can’t take anything this WH does serious. They are the worst hacks and the most disjointed admin in my life. I just feel sorry for our country until their gone. It’s like Opra, Dr Phil, Povich, and Geraldo all mixed in together to make the biggest WH cluster f— in modern history.
Posted by: jdp | Oct 19 2005 23:01 utc | 5
And this little piggy?
Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay.
A Texas court issued a warrant today for former House Majority Leader Tom DeLay’s arrest, and set an initial $10,000 bail as a routine step before his first court appearance following indictments for money laundering and crimimal conspiracy. Lawyers for Tom Delay scrambled yesterday in negotiations with Texas authorities in an attempt to have Mr. Delay avoid the indignity of public arrest and handcuffing.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 19 2005 23:16 utc | 6
“i love it when you’re right”
It didnt’ exactly take a 200 IQ to see this one coming.
“Arrest warrant issued for Tom Delay.”
That little piggy should have laid off the roast beef.
Posted by: Anonymous | Oct 19 2005 23:21 utc | 7
Hannah n Wurmser have been sweating for over a year now. Does anyone know if they have been at the Whitehouse for this time or were they cut loose as the ‘fall guys’ right from the start.
I still think that AIPAC have encouraged this deal as a way of deflecting any of the heat for this mess off of them.
Fitz may just have been talking to McNulty to make sure that McNulty wouldn’t endanger the deal by prosecuting his star witnesses, but McNulty hasn’t really been showing any fire in his belly about other aspects of the Franklin investigation (ie other than Franklin himself).
but the best part of this is that it explains why the unmasking of the ‘give-ups’ has occurred.
Unlike Fitzgerald, McNulty’s investigation hasn’t been leak free.
So maybe someone in the Mcnulty investigation has blabbed this right now. These guys may have been ‘turned’ months ago, but because Fitz has been playing things close to his chest, no one knew for sure.
So the good part is that if the leak has come out of McNulty’s whitewash, in an attempt to give the gang a ‘heads up’, it means the tale of two ‘toppers’ is true.
As for the rest of it none of the repugs have ever struck as being staunch fellows prepared to take one for the boss.
If Rove or Libby tries to protect Cheney, it won’t be out of loyalty. It will be out of self preservation. Standing between Dick the Prick Cheney and the opportunity for Cheney to gather more wealth and power, would be about as smart as standing between a tiger and her cub.
Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 19 2005 23:32 utc | 8
Plame, Flame update: Eriposte at The Left Coaster has an update on the P/F confusion via intrepid Kos posters. More:
Novak used the name “Valerie Flame” in an article appearing in a Human Events article in October 2003.
How big a secret was it? It was well known around Washington that Wilson’s wife worked for the CIA. Republican activist Clifford May wrote Monday, in National Review Online, that he had been told of her identity by a non-government source before my column appeared and that it was common knowledge. Her name, Valerie Flame, was no secret either, appearing in Wilson’s Who’s Who in America entry.
That said, the commonality between Novak’s and Miller’s fake denials (how could they possibly have known that the leak wasn’t “planned” or “concerted”, especially when it was?) and the appearance of the name “Valerie Flame” associated with both of their writings (article in the case of Novak and notes in the case of Judith Miller) provides some indication that the use of “Flame” may have been more than a careless spelling error.
Hmmmm.
Posted by: joejoejoe | Oct 19 2005 23:47 utc | 9
The middle graf above should be in quotes – those are Novak’s original words.
Posted by: joejoejoe | Oct 19 2005 23:48 utc | 10
clifford may was one of the people the enquiry about plame was passed thru. so of course he’s going to say that
Posted by: annie | Oct 19 2005 23:53 utc | 11
Mmmm, mmm.
Nothing like the smell of sizzling bacon.
Posted by: Night Owl | Oct 20 2005 0:20 utc | 12
i may have spoken too soon on that last posting. … wracking my brain. as i recall either grossman or carl ford were not around to send/recieve the plame memo and it passed thru another person.
sorry, more later
Posted by: annie | Oct 20 2005 0:27 utc | 13
Perhaps, the following should go to the “open thread”, but I have a hard time compartmentalizing these things. I see it all as one single state crime apparatus w/many facets.
Cheney ‘cabal’ hijacked foreign policy
“Vice-President Dick Cheney and a handful of others had hijacked the government’s foreign policy apparatus, deciding in secret to carry out policies that had left the US weaker and more isolated in the world, the top aide to Colin Powell claimed.”
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 20 2005 0:35 utc | 14
Uncle $cam has the narrative dead to rights. It is exactly what Wesley Clark, Richard Clarke, and more indirectly Paul O’Neill reported. It was a coup d’etat.
It succeeded because nobody who isn’t deeply involved in this stuff could possibly believe that something like this was happening. Bush was the front man. He can hardly drive his car, much less manage a coup. That’s actually his best defense. They knew how to manipulate him because he is emotional, not intellectual.
I blame Powell for this. He had the brains and experience to know what was going on and didn’t stop it. I assume he’s making amends, 2,000 American deaths later.
Posted by: Knut Wicksell | Oct 20 2005 0:44 utc | 16
Australian TV shows footage of Taliban burning Translation: US government is being proactive in continuing terror.
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 20 2005 3:05 utc | 17
I’m so bored w/this horseshit about how Cheney done it. Chris Matthews said same on msnbc.com today. Idiot Boy demanded from 1st cabinet meeting that invading Iraq was Top Priority – according to Paul O’Neill.
Idiot Boy met w/Cheney every Wed., at least. No one was allowed @that meeting – Impeachment Protection. Insofar as Idiot Boy wasn’t more involved in details of implementation it’s ‘cuz he’s an infantile illiterate. But he’s every bit as guilty.
Furthermore, there’s no honor in speaking out now. They should have spoken out long ago, like Karen Kwiatkowski has been. And Powell is such an ass-licking coward that he opposed his chief of staff speaking out even now. But that’s what one would expect from the dishonorable bastard who whitewashed My Lai.
Finally, even the terms of the discussion are all about internal power struggles. F’ dem NeoNuts, they closed the rest of the Foreign Policy Establishment out of discussions. But we’re fixin’ ’em now. Turf wars…
Even Soros wasn’t opposed to invading Iraq, he just wanted it done as cleverly as the Utter Destruction of Yugoslavia was done, an operation he was a big part of through his Vicious Non-profits – Open Society Institute, etc…The issue is not a policy disagreement, rather it’s the ham handed way it was implemented that wounded too many male egos, both domestically & internationally. So now ‘dem egos is fixin’ Cheney. Jesus Christ…
So, the article $cam links to is grim indeed.
Posted by: jj | Oct 20 2005 3:16 utc | 18
Exactly, jj.
Powell has always been a sniveling handmaiden to empire. And Soros’ Open Society has been running point in establishing “Democracies” throughout Eastern Europe and into Central Asia, as his contribution to “The Geat Game”. Specifically, he is the power behind the “Orange Revolution” in the Ukraine, (which has since become tinged with red). They employed the methods of one of my heros–Gene Sharp–all of which proves that the best thinkers can be subverted, and his institution does not even realize what happened, but go about bragging that their methods were used in the Ukraine. Still, non-violence IS better than violence.
I am waiting for Paul O’Neill and Richard Clarke to come out of the woodwork again and provide the second punch after Chimpy is reeling from Fitz’s indictments.
Can someone a little smarter than me, explain why this article is dated Wednesday, January 26, 2005?
Writer Backing Bush Plan Had Gotten Federal Contract Maggie Gallagher got 25k to promote marriage
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 20 2005 4:00 utc | 20
Go ahead! Yell at me! Laugh at me! I DON’T care! I want “The Terror” back! I want to sit there and knit and eat Hot Buttered Microwave Popcorn and watch beheadings! It sure beats reality TV!
Posted by: R.L. | Oct 20 2005 4:27 utc | 22
You want the terror, RL Are you ready for The Real Deal Terror? You got it.
$cam linked to article today discussing Billy Gates’ interview w/Charlie Rose. Billy said: “the ole dollar’s going down”. He’s switched to euros.
Hope you like it, Wise ass.
Posted by: jj | Oct 20 2005 4:38 utc | 23
Ashes to ashes; dust to dust. Sadly his fortune will last forever.
Malooga, you didn’t comment on my Main Point. At the end, when the curtain is pulled back, it’s Soros & the Globalists (“carry out policies that had left the US weaker and more isolated in the world”) merely having a tactical quarrel w/NeoNuts teaming up w/Foreign Policy Establishment waging their Turf Battles. Nothing in this for the rest of us.
Posted by: jj | Oct 20 2005 4:49 utc | 25
jj-
I didn’t comment on your main point because I agree with it.
Chimpster and Chainy (as in “Ball and Chainy”) did meet every week. I don’t believe Bush is really dumb. I think he is very keyed into vindictive strongarm politics, and even if his whole admin goes down in flames, no one can deny that he has given more to the elite than anyone since…maybe any President ever. I do believe, however, that he is very limited in his abilities, certainly far too limited to actually be President. But, yes, to employ an old chestnut, he is “in the loop.”
As far as others speaking out, here is a quote from Ray McGovern, “(Sad to say, the White House approach has worked. There are perhaps a hundred of my former C.I.A. colleagues who know about the lies; none—not one—has been able to summon the courage to go public.)” Hopefully, some will feel empowered tospeak out in the coming days.
As far as what is in this for the rest of us, well who can say. Doubtless, the elite will attempt to use the disorder to their benefit, but then so too can we. You are probably right that no good will come out of this, but as long as we live, we must struggle.
jj – Gates is Forex hedging up the ying-yang.
What he meant to say is MSFT is going down.
If he can bluff the dollar down a penny, he
makes $100,000,000’s on his euro’s hedge.
Buffett said the US is going to hell in a
hand-basket, bluffing investors out at the
bottom, so he could scoop up the fresh meat.
As long as the Chinese are pegged to the US$,
we only have to worry about US outsourcing,
or the vicious typhoon of three-way trades
blowing itself out on some hedge fund hiccup.
Refco probably had Gates wetting his shorts.
Posted by: tante aime | Oct 20 2005 5:34 utc | 27
DeLay’s arraignment is set for Friday before state district Judge Bob Perkins in Travis County.
“Perkins believes that if God was charged with a felony, he would have to go through the booking process too,” said D’Ann Underwood, court coordinator for the judge.
Haha, I can’t wait to see his mugshots on The Smoking Gun.
Ya gotta take pleasure where you find it these days…
Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 20 2005 10:19 utc | 29
@jj – Nothing in this for the rest of us.
I disagree. Management style is important. Stalinist thuggery does have a trickle-down effect.
Posted by: eftsoons | Oct 20 2005 10:39 utc | 30
Gates will be right or he’ll be wrong but whatever you can be listening to securities salesmen talking the market up. It’s what they do. According to the wall st shills investment only ever goes one way…up. All downward movement is strictly temporary. It’ll last a thousand years!
The question is are the fundamentals on the dollar still strong enough to stop it going into freefall at the moment?
I don’t know Bill might know but that won’t necessarily be why he’s making this call.
Any economic resurgence in Europe (not counting the Brits who have taken the dollar’s side in this) and the buck is going to go swooshing down the toilet. When you consider that Europe is riding pretty low and that Germany is going start flooging the family silver you’d have to think that if you were chinese and had too much cash kicking around, it would be a good time to diversify. Cause the European economies are getting ready to bounce up.
Of course the chinese aren’t in this for either the short term or a bundle of dollar bills. What they own in the US may be measured in dollars at the moment but it is hard assets and the chinese hold on them won’t be effected by exchange rate movement, cause they don’t have anyone holding paper over them.
If Iraq doesn’t fall in a heap and somehow the US manages to get ‘its’ Iranian oil back the dollar may get outta this yet, but I don’t think either of those things can happen in the real world outside of chimpee’s addled brain.
Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 20 2005 12:10 utc | 31
raw story
With the term of the grand jury expiring in one week, though, some lawyers in the case said they were persuaded that Mr. Fitzgerald had all but made up his mind to seek indictments. None of the lawyers would speak on the record, citing the prosecutor’s requests not to talk about the case.
But Mr. Rove and Mr. Libby may not be the only people at risk. There may be others in the government who could be charged for violations of the disclosure law or of other statutes, like the espionage act, which makes it a crime to transmit classified information to people not authorized to receive it.
sorry if someone’s already posted this
Posted by: annie | Oct 21 2005 17:14 utc | 32