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October 13, 2005
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WH Pooler Geoff Earle of the New York Post writes of the teleconference: "The soldiers, nine U.S. men and one U.S. woman, plus an Iraqi, had been tipped off in advance about the questions in the highly scripted event. Allison Barber, deputy assistant to the Secretary of Defense for internal communication, could be heard asking one soldier before the start of the event, "Who are we going to give that [question] to?"

WH Pool Report: Soldiers Knew Questions In Advance

Transcript of President Bush’s Teleconference With U.S. Soldiers in Iraq

BUSH: And how are they doing? I mean, give us an assessment. One of the things, Captain, that people in America want to know is, one, do the Iraqis want to fight? And are they capable of fighting? And maybe somebody can give us an appraisal.

KENNEDY: Mr. President, I’m going to field that question to Captain Pratt.

PRATT: Good morning, Mr. President. My name is Captain Steven Pratt from Pocatello, Idaho, serving with the 116th Brigade Combat Team as the Iraqi army coordinator.

The Iraqi army and police services, along with coalition support, have conducted many and multiple exercises and rehearsals. Recently, we’ve conducted a command post exercise in which we brought together these Iraqi security forces with emergency service units and the joint coordination center, in which we all sat around a terrain model and discussed what each one would do at their specific location and what they would do at the referendum.
It was impressive to me to see the cooperation and the communication that took place among the Iraqi forces.

Along with the coalition backing them, we’ll have a very successful and effective referendum vote.

BUSH: Captain, thank you very much.

Comments

Given the degree of Potemkinesque constructs that have have come to define the public face of this administration, from press conferences to plastic turkeys, wouldn’t it be more news worthy to provide evidence that Bush had a genuine public interaction that wasn’t carefully stage managed? Frankly, the thing that confuses me the most is why his two offices are in Washington, D.C. and Crawford, Texas… it would have been cheaper to have run this administration out of Hollywood where sets and sound stages have already been built.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 13 2005 19:39 utc | 1

What a fucking insult.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 13 2005 19:57 utc | 2

@anna
What’s so insulting? At least future history books will be able to proudly proclaim that the administration of the 43rd President of the United States was filmed on location.
I guess I am inured to it. I’m no longer insulted by being force-fed tripe. I am no longer insulted by seeing blatant exercises in bootlicking. I am a bit embarrassed, though, by the description of the participants as being comprised of “nine U.S. men and one U.S. woman, plus an Iraqi”.

Posted by: Monolycus | Oct 13 2005 20:14 utc | 3

Mc Clellan getting grilled on this in the press conference.
Some folks are waking up, they smell blood, and blood sells.

Posted by: b | Oct 13 2005 20:19 utc | 4

I’ts an interesting trajectory for Georgie’s public interactions – from filtered “town meetings”, to ghost-town Disney sets with no audience at all, to purely electronic conferencing with scripted talking heads (and no doubt a tape delay in case any comments are out of line). Is the next step animatronics or animation?

Posted by: PeeDee | Oct 13 2005 20:44 utc | 5

Ms Sock says “Mr President, you are the most brilliant man I ever met!”
GWB “Why thankyou, Ms Sock. Would you like to be a judge?”
Ms Sock “Oh Yes, Mr President!”

No need to leave the bunker.
Perhaps in time we could substitute their outside information feeds so they can play out their imperial fantasies in a virtual world instead of ours.

Posted by: PeeDee | Oct 13 2005 20:49 utc | 6

Once The Hurricane blew back the curtain not much that can be done to recreate the fear & awe!! Awww….
Shoe on the other foot here…Anyone remember Rumbo’s Q&A in ME? Soldier asked about the missing bullet proofing for their vehicles…had supposedly talked to mere jouno to figure out what to ask? Outrageous…And their lives were on the line…

Posted by: jj | Oct 13 2005 20:49 utc | 7

He’s on an upswing. This op was much better than the last one, at habitat for Humanity, when they dressed him up like the Village People’s
hard-hat guy.

Posted by: vidkun | Oct 13 2005 21:23 utc | 8

Frankly, the thing that confuses me the most is why his two offices are in Washington, D.C. and Crawford, Texas… it would have been cheaper to have run this administration out of Hollywood where sets and sound stages have already been built.
Can’t use California, it’s a union shop. They’d have to pay prevailing wage.

Posted by: doug r | Oct 13 2005 22:40 utc | 9

Imagine my surprize: Bush Teleconference With Soldiers Staged

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 13 2005 23:43 utc | 10

Probably a little early for me to go to Tikrit.
The purity. The puuuuurity of that!

Posted by: Roger Bigod | Oct 14 2005 1:30 utc | 11

The interesting thing here is that Bush’s public appearances are almost always carefully contrived with handpicked audiences and ringers asking scripted questions. Fact is Bush isn’t all that bright and his handlers are assiduous in their desire to spare Americans the painful spectacle of seeing their president trying to think on his feet. That’s why Bush almost never holds a conventional news a conference.
Until now however the mainstream media has mostly been happy to go along with the charade by downplaying or outright ignoring the obviously staged aspects of his public appearances. Even the uncovering of a bogus reporter in the White House press pool was taken in stride (which is probably in itself an indication of how little professional self respect journalists have these days).
Now that Bush’s approval rating is testing 40% it seems the media has suddenly lost a lot of its former compunction about drawing attention to the White House’s shamelessly self serving PR antics.

Posted by: Lexington | Oct 14 2005 3:46 utc | 12

See also Billmon’s small piece “A Big Fan”, which has a broken link but can be seen on his mainpage

Posted by: b | Oct 14 2005 6:29 utc | 13

What I didn´t expect yesterday but hoped for is happening. The MSM has picked up on this and thereby turns the effect around.
I lets Bush look very bad.
NYT: In a Scripted TV Scene, Soldiers Reassure Bush
WaPo: Troops Put In a Good Word to Bush About Iraq – 10 U.S. Soldiers Upbeat in Staged Teleconference
LA Times: Bush’s Chat With Troops Draws Flak
This is probably the end of staged events. They don´t work when the press finally points to the stagemasters.

Posted by: b | Oct 14 2005 8:08 utc | 14

Which all goes to show that if we really had a Democratic Press a nit like Bush wouldn’t even be stood up for county dogcatcher.

Posted by: Malooga | Oct 14 2005 8:37 utc | 15

I guess this insult ( the marionette show) was even too much for the corporate media to swallow. After all, it makes utter fools of 1) the soldiers, for having to be spoon fed W’s talking talking points 2) the (token) Iraqi,(I like you, & I’m stupid as a post) along with the absurd question about “how the American public wants to know are the Iraqis ready to fight, are they capable of fighting?” As if Iraqis have’nt the will to fight without American guidance, clearly, ignoring that they have been fighting, successfully, against US interests. 3) the US public, for being deemed to dumb to know when pablum is being rammed down their throat, And 4) the press, for, one more time” fetch me another can of beer, bitch” expectation.
Hahaha, and (W) now boy, thought he was battin for the cycle.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 14 2005 9:42 utc | 16

Black Hole Sun, won’t you come, and wash George Bush away?”

This “Bush Show on Stage” is an old tactic. Every question has to be vetted in advance and any deviation in the script results in swift and sometimes violent action.

In April of 2000 my college history department in the low country of South Carolina invited candidate George Bush to give an OPEN speech to students and field their questions.

Two of my honors students brought a sign because they saw a number of students bringing in signs with question written on them to an “open” meeting. But apparently the rest of the signs had been pre-scripted by the campus Republicans. As Bush started his speech, two goons wearing sun glasses noticed their sign, shoved them to the back of the audience, kicked them out of the “open” meeting, and ripped up their sign. The horrible words upon it that provoked this action? “Mr Bush: what is your position on the Environment?”

I witnessed this. These were my students. The location: The College of Charleston in South Carolina. That was the first of many involuntary shudders I experienced for America. Bush Inc. has had a chilling effect on certain things: the truth, liberty, open government, truth in reporting, real faith, and a host of other givens we thought would never be robbed from American citizens. Yeah, I’ve told this story before. But how many steps are there between this and torchlit rallies ending in book burning and concentration camps?

Posted by: Diogenes | Oct 14 2005 11:23 utc | 18

Can this man do anything that’s not staged? (oh, wait, what am I saying?) If he ever vetos anything, his minions will probably have to teach him how…

Posted by: Stfish7 | Oct 14 2005 12:53 utc | 19

Every event has always been staged, and poorly at that. Only difference is that the media now chooses to show the outtakes, as it were.
Frankly it’s more of a worry that there are so many competing interests piling on to survive the wreck. The preznit is now fair game, but for whom?

Posted by: YY | Oct 14 2005 14:00 utc | 20

Even if one stages such a thing, one should do better.
There are 9 US male soldiers, 1 male Iraqi, 1 female US soldier. No minority represented as far as I can tell. According to the transcript the questions were answered by Captains Kennedy, Smith, Pratt, Williams and Lieutnant Murphy. The Iraqi was a Sergeant Akeel (currently without the wires) and one question was answered by Master Sergeant Lombardo who needed to be there so Bush could “recall” seeing him shortly after 9/11(!).
From what I could tell from insignia there were no Infantry guys. All headquarter staff I think. An the “haircut” of all is terrible.
Can you imagine how the grunts on the ground feel about this?
Wasn´t it possible to find some staunch republican grunts? At least to sit by?
Bush must have pissed of the military big time with this show.

Posted by: b | Oct 14 2005 16:46 utc | 21

So the jackals are gathering around Bush, ready for the kill.
And then what?
Another leader, a real one? Someone who pursues US foreign policy with slighlty different spin?
Mistakes were made, Americans were duped, now everything will be hunky dory, our soldiers are valiant, we have to solve the Iraq problem and we will! The message:
Go back to sleep and go shopping for the BBQ. You are finally in safe hands.

Posted by: Noisette | Oct 14 2005 18:16 utc | 22

It’s the “then what” that’s the problem…Even if the Democrats sweep back into power soon, the only difference is that they put minor brakes on the American-Corporist Party which is the root cause of the imperialist USA. And then all the Democratic party flaks who have done decent jobs of exposing the Bushies’ lies will suddenly be parrots as much the Republican establishment is today. Or at least, was until Harriet Miers(!).
I saw this in the runup to the presidential election and it drove me away from most blogs (and I’m not the only one…) Daily Kos was downright frightning.

Posted by: Rowan | Oct 14 2005 19:05 utc | 23

I saw this in the runup to the presidential election and it drove me away from most blogs (and I’m not the only one…) Daily Kos was downright frightning.
could you elaborate on this statement a little more? perhaps provide some examples.

Posted by: annie | Oct 14 2005 19:13 utc | 24

Best example I remember from the normally fairly independent Atrios. It was a short little message and link praising John Edwards when he countered what Bush said about the War on Terror by saying something along the lines of “No, we can win the war on terror.” Atrios said “More of this please”.
Now, it’s possible that it was a compliment based on looking more like a cowboy than Cowboy George as an electoral tactic, as opposed to an endorsement of the Kerry/Edwards platform of “hunt down and kill all terrorists with a bigger military.” But that only mitigates it slightly.

Posted by: Rowan | Oct 14 2005 22:51 utc | 25

Wonderful line about the wire, Billmon. Yee HAW.

Posted by: No Blood for Hubris | Oct 15 2005 3:19 utc | 26

Oh, one of the soldiers Bushh “talked” to in that video stunt was the public affairs officer of the 42nd Infantry Division.
The reporters in the White House gaggle will love to ask McClellan about that.

Posted by: b | Oct 15 2005 6:28 utc | 27

Every event has always been staged, and poorly at that. Only difference is that the media now chooses to show the outtakes, as it were.

Which makes it more imperative on our part to send a clear message to the Democrats in time for 2006-2008 that we deserve and demand a fuckin’ Director’s Cut.

Posted by: Sizemore | Oct 15 2005 13:52 utc | 28