Plame Thread IV – Moon of Alabama

October 16, 2005

Plame Thread IV

This is the only really important part of yesterdays reporting about the Plame affair:

Before the grand jury, Mr. Fitzgerald asked me questions about Mr. Cheney. He asked, for example, if Mr. Libby ever indicated whether Mr. Cheney had approved of his interviews with me or was aware of them. The answer was no.
Judith Miller: My Four Hours Testifying in the Federal Grand Jury Room

What other questions did Fitzgerald ask about Cheney? Is there a connection between Cheney and Victoria Wilson? What did he ask about Bush?

Hmm…

Posted by b on October 16, 2005 at 15:36 UTC | Permalink

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Thanks for the lead, remembereringgiap. I’ll track it down right away….

Posted by: alabama | Oct 18 2005 8:27 utc | 101

thanks for the link outraged,
If Rumsfeld signed off on Judys security clearance, does that mean she is working for them? Why, exactly would Miller need a security clearance if she was simply reporting facts on the ground, other than, being an active participant in generating those facts — which could then be stovepiped directly to the NYT — without source reference or fact checked by the paper. And when does complicity (or conspiracy) cross the line from advocacy to agency, real denominational payment, or implied payment of exclusive access pro bono? And when is the “paper of record” seen as a complicit co-conspiritor in a dis-information campaign orchestrated out of the white house and its “iraq group”? All well beyond another jessica lynch feel good story.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 18 2005 9:42 utc | 102

The English used to call them cowboys, that is people who are all talk about their ability to plumb your water lines or paint your house but who are too much with the spiel to do a good job.
They charge more than the norm either take too long or not long enough and make big mess because it transpires they didn’t know the basics of their craft.
Does that sound like this mob of wannabe warriors hanging out in Pennsylvania Ave this last few years?
These guys weren’t only politicians they were spies and generals as well.
If the intelligence wasn’t up to snuff well they knew this Judy girl who could get information that was.
The soldiers and sailors are worried about what happens afterwards? How would they know? They just need to do the fighting, because we have great plans afoot to sort out these Ayrabs…
You better know that secretary Rumsfield isn’t interested in what might happen, that’s such a 20th century way of managing the coolest superpower in the world. In the 21st century we only care about what is, not what might have been.
See cowboys!
I think there may be some danger that these guys will fall apart like a wet paper bag when someone calls their bluff.
The end could come really quickly and then the demopublicans become the only game in town.
They have no coherent strategies for dealing with anything apart from less of the same.
The windbags will be doing their damdest to avoid revealing any strategy or policy. yeah partly because they are bereft of ideas and partly because they are too gutless to articulate those ideas in case some bully elephant stomps them.
But the main reason is that the less that the dems commit to the more they will be able to put up for sale when they get in office.
Amerikans need to start putting pressure on these guys now; otherwise the hacks who are too damned silly to come up with anything original, will modify the repug methods just enough to show a point of difference, but not enough to make a difference.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 18 2005 9:50 utc | 103

“Maybe Judy is lying.”
annie, she had SOMETHING, kosher or not, in the way of clearance to view classified. (After all, she DID view classified and believes that she passed some of it on in the OVP.) If it was kosher it went through one of three organizations that handle that. In other words, Rumsfeld or anyone else can’t simply wave a wand and grant a clearance, not even an interim one. There are other people, independent offices and functions, involved. It’s not like deputizing someone on-the-spot. Secret Backround Investigations, Top Secret Backround Investigations, interviews, and plenty of paperwork.
Judy’s recent public account of her testimony before the grand jury (“In My Own Words”) was written with her lawyer. “(C)learance to see secret information” is not, I believe, a bluff on her part.
But again, regardless of the precise nature and origin of the clearance, the only reason to grant it is to bring someone INTO an operation. At the point that that is done, the individual is something other than a journalist. I believe she was brought in – or put in – as a source and as a conduit.

Posted by: Pat | Oct 18 2005 16:59 utc | 104

thanks pat

Posted by: annie | Oct 18 2005 17:08 utc | 105

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