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October 29, 2005
Other News – Weekend Thread
Anything but plamegate …
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There are lots of distortions about Iran in the western press. I am still wondering what Ahmadinejad really said. ATOL has this:
hmm hmmmmmmm indeed, did he say those words because he knows the USA have their balls in a vice in Iraq and are powerless?
Maybe an underground test in the offing? Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 29 2005 12:03 utc | 2 Editoial Note:
I do not understand why the Iranian Prez made that statement about Israel. Can someone help me? Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 29 2005 16:12 utc | 4 Once Upon a Time in the West Posted by: tante aime | Oct 29 2005 17:01 utc | 5 To understand Iran, you have to understand Posted by: Qod92fym | Oct 29 2005 17:24 utc | 6 I do not understand why the Iranian Prez made that statement about Israel. Can someone help me? Posted by: Hamburger | Oct 29 2005 17:26 utc | 7 The Knights Templar wore red crosses on white Posted by: 8th Circle of Hell | Oct 29 2005 17:58 utc | 8 @fauxreal et al. Hmmm, the troll(?), tante aime appears to have taken on a couple of new identities, (a singular style though) … ‘Qod92fym’ & ‘8th Circle of Hell’, perhaps ?. Posted by: Outraged | Oct 29 2005 18:18 utc | 10 @b Posted by: Outraged | Oct 29 2005 18:36 utc | 11 Federation of American Scientists Posted by: Outraged | Oct 29 2005 18:55 utc | 12 Israeli Weapons of Mass Destruction: a Threat to Peace
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 29 2005 19:02 utc | 13 since we are on this…. Posted by: dan of steele | Oct 29 2005 19:03 utc | 14 As pointed out, the Israelis (present Gvmt.) do not have autonomy, and cannot act on their own decisions. They are financially, politically dependent, and can only manouver through alliance, that is, adopting other’s interests, or by using more or less covert manipulation, influence, deception, blackmail, etc. Posted by: Noisette | Oct 29 2005 20:31 utc | 15 Noticed that, Outraged. At least we got an entertaining troll. Perhaps the number of personalities is a fn. of type of medication. Posted by: jj | Oct 29 2005 20:37 utc | 16 Jesus, anyone else utterly incapable of focusing on the latest Distraction WH is cooking up? Enough Already. NeoNuts out of the WH NOW. 300,000 Americans are being cut off foodstamps & their children, ~40,000, will therefore be cut off free lunch program. In light of that, and ever so much more like it, I can quickly grow disgusted w/the painless attention to decorum among DC Elites. It’s all living in a nightmare to me…Everything is a Distraction from the Pirates War against us…the Culling of the Herd…the smart-ass trivia of the Tablogs makes my blood boil…and, of course, the “left” has always been anti american middle class, so they’re not about to speak out. Posted by: jj | Oct 29 2005 20:43 utc | 17 thanks for the information. it does make a difference to know it’s in the context of jerusalem day, but jerusalem day itself is one reason it’s so hard to make peace in the middle east. Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 29 2005 20:48 utc | 18 The Iranian distraction was very easy to use because this speech occurs on the last day of Ramadan every year.
This is coming out now because until a few months ago French Polynesia which I believe is still defined as a Parisian suburb for French administrative purposes, was run by corrupt representatives of the whitefellas who have colonised it. Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 29 2005 22:27 utc | 19 Nightmares from the Bowels of the WH- are too much for me now. Posted by: jj | Oct 29 2005 22:46 utc | 20 Interesting Review of Andrew Bacevich’s new book on current American militarism. Book sounds very good. Posted by: Groucho | Oct 30 2005 0:10 utc | 21 What’s going on with Iran feeling its oats? Perhaps this little tidbit: Vali Nasr, an expert on Shiites who lectures on national security affairs at the U.S. Naval Postgraduate School in Monterrey, Calif., said al-Sistani’s intention to call for a withdrawal timetable has been an “open secret” for some time. In other words, the jig is up, the worst possible outcome is coming, intelligence has known it for a while, and that is why W’s goose is going to be cooked well before Christmas. Malooga- yes, zionism has a long history. I didn’t say it emerged because of the holocaust…I said the holocaust was what sealed the deal. Are you trying to say that Hitler’s extermination camps had no impact? Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 30 2005 4:08 utc | 24 On taint aime, well seems to me he/she must be, and I hate to surmise, but you know, they must be one of those…. Posted by: anna missed | Oct 30 2005 8:06 utc | 25 an interesting Observer comment on Iran
I must have had too much time on my hands today. Posted by: DM | Oct 30 2005 10:45 utc | 27 What is the story behind this?
??? Endless sunset Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 30 2005 10:50 utc | 29 @Uncle $cam Posted by: DM | Oct 30 2005 11:10 utc | 30 @fauxreal I wasn’t aware I was addressing my opinions on the Iranian question at you. I started writing that post over a day ago when the Ahmadinejad remarks first surfaced but as far as I know they hadn’t been commented on here. Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 30 2005 12:04 utc | 31 “Ahmadinejad’s comments do not signify a real and heightened threat. They express a vicious stalemate.” Posted by: Pat | Oct 30 2005 13:43 utc | 32 Time to declare West Bushistan a terrorist state and embargo it. It produces mega-scale grifters, electronic election rigging machines, toxic politicians, and grapefruit. Does anybody anywhere actually like grapefruit?
Posted by: eftsoons | Oct 30 2005 13:59 utc | 33 To understand the general arabic outrage on Israel you only have to dip into todays Haaretz:
you are quie right uncle $cam – the patriot acts – even through their convuluted language – are in real terms the enabling act of the nazis transformed into modern america – if anything the patriot acts are crueler in intent & more shameful in their obvious strategy Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 30 2005 14:38 utc | 35 whether you believe in invisible friends in the sky or not, today the people of Dresden opened up their beautiful cathedral which had been completely destroyed in the Allied firebombing of WWII. Posted by: dan of steele | Oct 30 2005 21:19 utc | 36 thanks, dan, for the link. interesting that they mentioned that there is no military explanation for why dresden was bombed in the first place . Posted by: gylangirl | Oct 31 2005 1:49 utc | 37 Cool dudes … (Independent 31/10/05)
As for me .. I’m just not sure how much of an appetite I’d have for Maccas. Posted by: DM | Oct 31 2005 2:25 utc | 38 Iran Fighting the West w/Modern Weapons. They hired a Brit. Propaganda/PR Firm. Posted by: jj | Oct 31 2005 2:55 utc | 39 The number of governments that were willing to directly support the Empires most recent unilateral actions, i.e. Aggressive war on the people of Iraq, always was rather small and seems to be further shrinking. Soon there’ll only be US, UK, AUS … and all the while the political capital of the empire slowly ebbs away, along with its influence … no wonder Bush & Co will see Berlusconi as treacherous …
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 31 2005 4:22 utc | 40 It would appear the constant background pressure from the US has finally resulted in movement re abandoning Japans (imposed) pacifist constitution and therefore adopting a more aggressive military and foriegn policy posture.
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 31 2005 5:21 utc | 41 ATOL has a rather detailed summary of the immediate and short term changes in the ‘initail’ re-militarization of Japan …
Posted by: Outraged | Oct 31 2005 5:37 utc | 42 ” And it is bringing us no closer to solving the urgent problems posed to world peace by an increasingly complex Iran.” Despite Warnings, U.S. Leans on Syria
These folks are mad. @ b Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 31 2005 11:07 utc | 45 The Italian “stop” of the mighty Wurlitzer has once Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 31 2005 11:34 utc | 46 Next United States Supreme Court Associate Justice ? Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 12:41 utc | 47 Today’s “liberated” Krugman column
b, This is long so feel free to delete if you need to, or I can break it up but I think you will find it well worth the bandwidth it is the translated La Repubblica article that Hannah K. O’Luthon posted above. I just bought a kick-ass tranlation software program and it translates up to 20 languages. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 13:23 utc | 49 Hannah- thanks for the heads up on the new La R. articles. They’re really doing some amazing work. Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 31 2005 13:30 utc | 50 with all due respect to the translation software, Nur al-Cubicle has it beat. compare 1st paragraphs… Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 31 2005 13:39 utc | 51 Who is Francis Brooke you may ask… he is the chief assistant in Washington to Ahmed Chalabi, head of the Iraqi National Congress. Brooke also was principal founder and director of the Iraq Liberation Action Committee, which favored Hussein’s ouster. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 13:43 utc | 52 @fauxreal et al, Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 14:02 utc | 53 @ Uncle, Faux and others The whole affair is fascinating even when viewed merely as a psychodrama: what is the interplay of corruption, greed, patriotism (Israeli or American), naivté, manipulation by unseen controllers, arrogance, misbegotten idealism and, of course, simple incompetence? Who are the dupes and who are the manipulators? Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 31 2005 14:11 utc | 54 Watch what you say, what you do, and what you wear! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 15:20 utc | 55 Precision bombing:
@uncle $cam, you have sd ” I just bought a kick-ass tranlation software program and it translates up to 20 languages” – could you tell me what it is & its capacity – i work in two sometimes three languages & it would be a great help – tho i am using an old blavk powebook Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 31 2005 18:26 utc | 58 Just in case there may be a MoA reader labouring under the misapprehension that the Volcker report has revealed a nest of ‘corrupt anything for a buck raghead lovers’, I thought I’d throw in this link from my fishwrap about a beekeeping supply business in NZ that has fallen foul of the Volck’s beady eye. Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 31 2005 20:25 utc | 59 thanks Debs. Tells us the Kleptocracy runs things. Bets on blowback… Posted by: jj | Oct 31 2005 21:08 utc | 60 Speaking of fishwrap, the Guardian is rapidly heading there as well. Check out this Guardian interview w/Noam Chomsky, on occasion of him being chosen Leading Public Intellectual. Nothing even to quote. Distressing to see such Childish Amateurish Drivel from Britain’s once great leftish paper. But then NYT just has a Blackout Policy on his thinking. If it were a really great paper, he’d write regular op-eds. Posted by: jj | Oct 31 2005 21:17 utc | 61 Another post rated:CD (CRITICAL DESERNMENT) Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 31 2005 22:25 utc | 62 The new president received immediate pledges of bipartisan support from Democratic leaders. “We think the American people want unity and closure in these difficult times,” said Senator Hillary Clinton of New York. “They don’t want us to take partisan political advantage of the Republicans’ little spot of bother.” Posted by: DM | Nov 1 2005 5:06 utc | 63 @Uncle $cam Posted by: DM | Nov 1 2005 5:27 utc | 64 Regarding the articel about Craig Sikut who was arrested for haveing false CIA and other government ID. This individual lost his job with the Navel Investigative service, and I believe he lost his job at UPS. I knew him-a very strange guy. Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 10 2006 21:37 utc | 65 |
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