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October 10, 2005
Bill K’s Prediction

Just a bit to grin about:

Bill Kristol: White House Indictments Coming

Weekly Standard editor Bill Kristol predicted on Sunday that there will be at least one and perhaps several indictments of "senior [Bush] administration officials" by Special Counsel Patrick Fitzgerald, who is investigating the outing of CIA employee Valerie Plame.

"Criminal defense lawyers I’ve spoken to who are friendly to the administration are very worried that there will be one or more indictments in the next three weeks of senior administration officials," the influential editor told "Fox News Sunday."

"Just looking at what Fitzgerald is doing and taking him at his word as a serious prosecutor here," Kristol said, "and I think it’s going to be bad for the Bush administration."

Someone please put that Champagne into the fridge. Bill K. thinks we will need it.

The freepers are howling.

Is Krystol smoking something?

Comments

I read the first 50 comments on the freeper site (will purge and cleanse for next 24 hours) and have difficulty absorbing all this unreality. They are trashing Kristol as a turncoat, praising Brit Hume for cuffing him on Hume’s show, accusing Fitz of pursuing a DNC agenda, calling for hanging Wilson, etc. One commenter explained away Kristol’s and Barnes’ remarks by mentioning that they work for Rupert Murdoch while praising Hume, who also works for Murdoch. No one mentioned that it was the CIA that referred the leak to DOJ and that John Ashcroft’s Justice Dept decided to appoint a special prosecutor. Neither is a nest of liberal Dems. In fact, the intelligence community supported W in 2000 largely because HW was so popular there (he defended them after the Church committee hearings) and they thought W would be as supportive. Now, the CIA feels betrayed and wants some scalps. Ashcroft would have smothered this if he could, but didn’t. Does this occur to our freepers? Nope. All of this is just another liberal plot to them. They are as far removed from reality as W is. Did they come from another planet and forget to push the normalizing button?

Posted by: lonesomeG | Oct 10 2005 17:04 utc | 1

@lonesomeG
thanks for exposing yourself to the filth and reporting back to us.
Your questions about their relation to reality are rhetorical, are they not?
Freepers are robots… they jump when they’re told to — they never question why – that is to say they don’t do any homework. They have no concept of what an actual debate is — if they disagree with the messenger, they shoot ’em. Reptilian response…
Frankly I’m delighted to see their little worlds turned upside down with doubt and worry… we’ve been living like that for five years now, but time for our side to have a respite… a chuckle or two.
Thanks for the laugh, b.
My hope is we will be laughing big time real soon, when the indictments actually come. They will come. Make no mistake about that. The Law does trump wo/man… especially these pathetic excuses for humans.

Posted by: crone | Oct 10 2005 18:24 utc | 2

The freepers are howling.
I know cyberspace is infinite, but I’m STILL constantly surprised that they can fit so much stupidity into one web site.

Posted by: Billmon | Oct 10 2005 19:56 utc | 3

You gotta wonder about Ashcroft in all this, did he poison the well before he left? Ashcroft (and his wife) sometimes tout a special relationship to the concept of forgiveness, so one might, maybe, even wishfully assume that he knew just how deep the Plame conspiracy went and in his own little jesus syndrome way asserted a dose of moral superiority on the way out — which he knew, would garner political vindication down the road. The price to pay for fundy political support, unreliability. Haha…….who woulda guessed.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 10 2005 20:19 utc | 4

What I always found interesting about Ashcroft was that although he is super-fundie, at the same time he has never appeared to me to be as crooked as the rest of the bunch. I suspect that’s why he resigned. Also, he was the only one with a close relative in the military, his son Andrew, who was aboard a destroyer in the Persian Gulf. I think that history will be kind to him, as compared to the others. And I think he appointed Fitzpatrick to do exactly the honest job he is doing … well, I hope we have something to applaud.
My birthday is Nov 1st. My birthday wish is for as many indictments as my years. I don’t need anything else. (Can one die from too much joy, though?)

Posted by: Ensley | Oct 10 2005 21:02 utc | 5

lonesome g
i couldn’t even manage the first 10 – i feel so soiled – you are as courageous as rove is stupid

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 11 2005 0:42 utc | 6

Ashcroft was not the brightest bulb in a dim pack, though brighter than his boss (which is to say, perhaps one candle-power of brightness). My guess is that he didn’t see into the depths of this situation, and when he appointed Fitzgerald, the WH thought they were safe and didn’t think it was worth intervening to squelch the appointment. I’m sure that of all the decisions they made (including Iraq) this is the one they regret most.

Posted by: Knut Wicksell | Oct 11 2005 1:19 utc | 7

RGiap,
I live around these people. Sometimes I set aside my anger and frustration and really try to find a basis for communication, knowing they are human and have to be reachable through that humanity somehow. But, like the freeper site visit, I have always confronted that impenetrable wall of insistent ignorance so determined I can only stand dumbstruck in front of it. Most of these people are decent in the way many people are: they’ll give you a ride to work or the store if your car breaks down, watch your kids, loan you money or garden equipment, etc. But touch their calcified belief systems and you’re dead. They are so emotionally invested in these mental constructs; do they think one’s worthiness rests in what one believes and not in one’s humanity? More than once I’ve said something and felt like I was on the receiving end of the childrens’ stares in the old movie Village of the Damned. I pity them the pain they will feel when those mental levies break and the Other comes flooding in, tearing them from their certitude, but it will be no worse than what we have done to Iraq (and elsewhere) with their enthusiastic support.

Posted by: lonesomeG | Oct 11 2005 1:58 utc | 8

Bullies: Don’t forget all the whining and crying we have heard about ‘politically motivated’ actions from Rep. Tom DeLay — the man who’s face appears beside that phrase in the dictionary.

Posted by: Blue Alamo | Oct 11 2005 12:59 utc | 9

LOL
Since it’s morning here and I’ve had my first coffee to kick out the grumps I thought I may as well take a look at this freeper site. Like many of us I stay away from such places because the ignorance really pushes my buttons. Today though the overwhelming emotion I got from their turgid ramblings was pity.
Here’s one of my favorites.
“If I were in charge of White House communications Gen Russ Honoree would be the White House Spokesman and he would have total authority to kick out the Helen Thomas wing of reporters”
What can you say to something like that presumably this person also cherishes the ‘freedoms’ given him (It will certainly be a bloke I suspect women contributors to these threads are very thin on the ground apart from the Coulter wannabees) by that great ‘democracy’ the US of A.
I especially like the furphy that one of the foxtrots slipped out. That is that it’s untrue that Rove has had his immunity withdrawn because he didn’t have immunity in the first place.
This statement is such a typical fox solecism that it should be framed and hung up their with other great acts of feet shooting.
If I recollect it was Rove’s lawyers who were spreading the disinformation that Rove was beyond the reach of Fitzgerald. I guess it was some sort of vain attempt to ‘make it so’.
Still fingers crossed. It is at times like this that I can stand back horrified by the depth of my own cynicism. Maybe the self righting devices built into the US system are still functioning and haven’t been rusted up with disuse.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Oct 11 2005 20:49 utc | 10

i just posted this on open thread and then realized , i’m just excited, maybe i should post it on every thread.
News Orgs Working On Story Tying Cheney Into Plamegate… Developing…

The Wall Street Journal and Bloomberg are working on stories that point to Vice President Dick Cheney as the target of special prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald’s investigation into the leaking of CIA operative Valerie Plame’s name.

Posted by: annie | Oct 12 2005 1:32 utc | 11

The news Tuesday evening that Fitz is now perhaps onto the whole Iraq Working Group, if true is the ultimate expression of the criminalization of politics. Kristol et. al might bemoan the criminalization of politics but the problem with the IWG was it’s politization of policy. Sure politics and policy always collide but rarely on such a level and never before when it’s about war.
Now that the war is lost scapegoats are in order. While citizens and the media and the erswhile political opposition were to blame for allowing the whole sad mess to get so out of hand and then look the other way as it devolved during an election year they certainly don’t want to take any blame themselves. How much better to blame the evil cabal in the White House. Enter stage left the insidious IWG.
The massive shift against the Iraq adventure in public opinion has found little voice in the MSM and even less in the political sphere. I posit this is because those actors know that they can’t go there and arrive unstained. Any story of what has come to pass must include their culpability.
That is why the evil cabal is a godsend to them. It will be the story that provides them absolution.
The papers have now been served in the divoce proceedings between the administration and the MSM. The latter has now seen the pictures, their partner was cheating on them in back rooms. Shocking.

Posted by: rapier | Oct 12 2005 12:11 utc | 12