Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
September 1, 2005
New Orleans III

Some random thoughts, more in the comments:

This catastrophe was announced. A category 5 hurricane was expected to hit New Orleans directly. It was only a category 4 and the center missed the city.

A lot of blame is, rightfully, put on this administration, but there are more people to blame here.

Even though the catastrophy was announced, prepositioning not only of FEMA equipment, but National Guards, helicopters, boats, water and food supply did not happen. No chain of command was established, no headquarter manned when there was time to do so. Still there seems to be no clear line of command, no central authority in charge.

The local authorities did not provide public transport and safe shelter for the poor, when they told people to evacuated the city. This was criminal neglect – at least.

I do expect the death toll to be some 15,000 to 25,000.

This still could get worse. As the WWL TV news-blog reports:

5:32 P.M. – WWL-TV: 10 to 15 feet of water still in some areas. The river levee was damaged, eroded during the storm.

Water in the Mississippi will rise over the next days when the rain dropped by Katrina finds its way into the river. A breach of the river levees, damaged by the storm and sipped on by flood water on the inside, is possible. Who is preparing to reinforce these levees?

11% of the US gasoline production is out, additionally some pipelines are not operational because they lack electricity. The price shock will bring a recession in the U.S. with many global consequences. But the President did not ask to conserve gas, or ordered rationing. No sacrifice ever.

If you think oil and gas prices are high, you ain´t seen nothing yet. This is a 140,000 barrel per day platform that will be out for a year. Many, many production platforms have just vanished. Even if the strategic reserve is used now, it will have to be refilled later. I expect oil at $100/barrel for some month to come.

Gasoline shortages throughout the U.S. may also lead to civil unrest.

How has the port of Southern Louisiana fared? It is the fifth-largest port in the world in terms of tonnage. No port workers, no electricity, no port operation. Yet, I don´t find much in the news. That is a huge story missing.

Comments

Collective delusions are the hardest (and last, usually) thing to break.
I remember I was in Moscow in ’89 (perestroika) and my Russian colleagues — all sophisticated guys who had been in the west — thought they’d be like West Germany in a couple of years. A mere political adjustment.
Not!
“USA is Number 1” repeated ad nauseam for decades is blinding the country – today’s US of A has more in common with Argentina (at the time of the Falklands, say) than France or Germany. A third world country, basically.
Watch the crumble in slow motion – historians will write about this long after we’re all gone.

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 1 2005 10:22 utc | 1

This is where the eerie apparently cosmic connection comes in. While the government was off fucking Iraq and trying to steal her oil, snatching back levee building money for NOLA, fate came in over those weakened levees and got the country in the oil supply spot. So the whole thing has been for naught, giving even more weight to Cindy Sheehan’s question, “What noble cause did my son die for?” The timing was amazing. Exactly at the closing of Camp, the deed was done. And the anti-war noses are clean. They’re just covering the whole country in preparation for the convergence on the White House.
I can’t imagine anything but the end for these people. It’s like that Edgar A. Poe story where the whole room slowly closes in on the protagonist.
This feels heavy. A moment of truth.
And as usual, impossible to predict the outcome.
Criminal neglect, for sure. Mixed with years of this political Mafia. They barely squeezed through Iran-Contra. Crime sprees most often end with capture. It seems to be part of the deal.
I’m going to mind my P’s and Q’s and drive my little fuel efficient sub-compact car as little as possible.
Nature and the universe always trump the human animal.

Posted by: jm | Sep 1 2005 11:12 utc | 2

On the upside, I guess the United States won’t be attacking Iran this month.

Posted by: jm | Sep 1 2005 11:30 utc | 3

New Orleans WWL TV is streaming again.
They say that all police in NO are now fighting looting and stopped search and rescue.
There is a lesson missed. The people go back to primary loyality when the state does no longer serve their immediate needs. Here the state fails to deliver water and food and security and people revert to just looking after their tribe, family, themselfs.
(The same happens in Iraq on a much bigger scale.)

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 11:51 utc | 4

Well now we know what Katrina was, it was the Fist of God.

On August 14, citizens in the United States, like people around the world, heard about the issuing of an order for the forced evacuation of Jews from parts of Israel’s biblical land.
For six days they watched as thousands of weeping people were pulled and carried from their homes, forced to leave their gardens, parks, communities, schools, towns and synagogues, everything they had spent decades building; banned from ever returning again. Those scenes were soon followed by pictures of bulldozers and other earth-moving machinery pulverizing the just-vacated homes into heaps of dust.
While this was taking place, a small tropical depression was forming near the Bahamas in the Atlantic Ocean. Slowly, as the air began to revolve, the nonthreatening weather system began moving in the direction of Florida.

Mad Mullahs in Iran?

Posted by: Friendly Fire | Sep 1 2005 12:03 utc | 5

A blog from inside New Orleans

New Orleans Police Department Status: The situation for the NOPD is critical. This is firsthand information I have from an NOPD officer we’re giving shelter to. Their command and control infrastructure is shot. They have limited to no communication whatsoever. He didn’t even know the city was under martial law until we told him! His precinct (5th Precinct) is under water! UNDER WATER — every vehicle under water. They had to commander moving trucks like Ryder and UHaul to get around. The coroner’s office is shut down so bodies are being covered in leaves at best or left where they lie at worst.
They don’t even know their own rules of engagement. He says the force is impotent right now. They have no idea what’s going on, no coordination, virtually no comms, etc. the National Guard is gonna air drop a radio system for them with 200 radios? They are getting very little direction.
The 3rd District bugged out to Baton Rouge because they flooded out.
His quote: “It’s a zoo.”
More first hand information direct from him shortly. He’s trying to recover.
I am not trying to be an alarmist, but until we get a military presence of signicance in the city, the roving gangs of thugs own the streets.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 12:22 utc | 6

Comments on Kos seem to indicate that it’s even worse than that. The U.S. has refused all foreign offers of aid. Seems they don’t want anyone to see what’s going on.
Imagine how desperate the situation has to be for people to ignore the floating dead.
It is criminal that the authorities didn’t announce that all supplies of food and water in stores be made public property from the get-go.
This spectacle has left me so enraged, I don’t know where to start, so I guess I just won’t.
Where is Rumsfeld when you need him to remind us that “Democracy is messy!”

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 1 2005 12:50 utc | 7

The U.S. Poverty Management Program is in full swing, I see.
Soylent Green is people, after all.

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 1 2005 13:05 utc | 8

Just saw Bush via BBC on ABC Good Morning America.
He said: “See, nobody expected the levees to breach”
LIAR – the levees could only take a cat 3 storm, a cat 5 was expected.
ABC has not yet a transcript and the News piece” does not include the above line.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 13:23 utc | 9

Jarrod Mayberry NO police on WWL TV
“There is no central command” – this is day 4

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 13:40 utc | 10

Where is General Shinseki when we need him.

Posted by: Porco Rosso | Sep 1 2005 13:41 utc | 11

Federal government wasn’t ready for Katrina, disaster experts say

The federal government so far has bungled the job of quickly helping the multitudes of hungry, thirsty and desperate victims of Hurricane Katrina, former top federal, state and local disaster chiefs said Wednesday.
The experts, including a former Bush administration disaster response manager, told Knight Ridder that the government wasn’t prepared, scrimped on storm spending and shifted its attention from dealing with natural disasters to fighting the global war on terrorism.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 14:06 utc | 12

Gee…what happened to all the planning and preparation for a terroist strike? I mean shouldn’t DHS beena ble to quickly respond to this destruction and the needs of the people? Are you going to tell me that if this were a terroist strike in NO DHS/The Feds would have performed differently?
There is something very wrong here….where has all the DHS money gone?
rt

Posted by: rt | Sep 1 2005 14:21 utc | 13

some wag on some blog who signed himself, “grover” said, “this is practice.”
“remember what happened in NO” will become the next magic invocation like “remember 9/11!!”
people will have less resistance to martial law after this; it will be the first rather than the last resort.
Texas is ready. Texas is not out of control. Texas has plans in place. I can’t find the link to the list that Governor Perry issued. Texas is in charge.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 1 2005 14:58 utc | 14

The only difference between the bumbling, apathetic incompetence in New Orleans and the bumbling, apathetic inompetence in Iraq is the fact that we can see what is going on in New Orleans.
It looks like Iraq II to me.

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 1 2005 15:02 utc | 15

rt: All that money went to RNC bribes to every police c&c in the US, new uniforms, body armor, SWAT gear, radios, blue-black gew-gaws. Oh, and a huge central homeland defense agency in WADC with every dead-end
white male middle-manager hack they could dredge up. Didn’t you study the hiring patterns? More new pols and cons than Mayor Daley (Sr.).
This is what they mean by New Pravda, and Politburo, and how any town in the US will look like any town in the former Soviet Union soon. The tragedy for US is that now the Reds own the Fed political system.
It will be nearly impossible to achieve American Glasnost in 2008.

Posted by: Popcorn Annie | Sep 1 2005 15:04 utc | 16

if there were a flyer or pamphlet highlighting some of the more egregious examples of how much money has disappeared and been wasted in the last five years, presented in a manner that connects many of the dots so that any citizen could easily follow, and circulated in a grassroots effort to ensure wide distribution across the country in a coordinated blitz, maybe this would help fan the tinder, ignite a pamphletting strategy or two, and light some fires under those who gotta go.

Posted by: b real | Sep 1 2005 15:05 utc | 17

clarification: “Texas is in charge” or “Texas is in control” was the subtext of the bulleted list issued from Perry’s office.
It may have been in the eye of the beholder.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 1 2005 15:10 utc | 18

An eerily analagous moment from history:
“Suns that rise must go down. The year 1686, which saw the completion of Le Brun’s Salon of Peace and Salon of War, marked the climax of Louis XIV’s reign. But already decline was close at hand. The King’s military victories and dreams of hegemony gradually antagonized all of Europe. His bitterest enemy, William of Orange, Stadtholder of Holland, whom he had contemptuously underestimated and who in 1689 was crowned King of England, patiently knit the countries of the continent into a formidable alliance. France was plunged into a series of disastrous wars. Commanded by generals who knew better how to maneuver at court than in the field, her armies suffered badly. The exodous of Protestants, denied by Louis the right to follow their religion, deprived the country of its most industrious citizens. Mismanagement was the consequence of entrusting the reins of the state to men equipped only for flattery. By the turn of the century, France was in steep decline.”
“With age, the King’s defects of character increased and hardened. He resented the slightest critcism, accepted no advice but flattery, and under the influence of the puritanical Mme. de Maintenon, fell into the most intolerant form of bigotry. Henceforth he wore only dark clothes, and he banished from the realm the theatrical troupe of commedia dell’arte players whom he had personally protected and loved, because he could no longer brook the salaciousness of their repartee.”
“Soon France showed signs of ‘universal bankruptcy.’ The women of Les Halles, Paris’ central market, marched on Versailles to demand bread. On the battlefield defeat followed upon defeat. ‘Every day brings something new–never good,’ remarked the Princess Palatine, Louis XIV’s sister-in’law. Even nature seemed to have entered into the Great Alliance. A succession of incredibly bitter winters ravaged France. In 1691, to pay his famished troops, Louis sent all his gold and silverware–the dishes, tables, seats, chandeliers fashioned by Le Brun and his collaborators–to the mint to be melted. Le Brun himself, half disgraced, half forgotten, spent his final years (he died in 1690) in the Gobelins tapestry works. ‘At the court, all that remains is sadness, boredom and distrust,’ wrote the Princess Palatine. And Saint-Simon, even more chillingly, wrote: ‘All was silence and suffering.’ ”

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 1 2005 15:20 utc | 19

@rt Are you going to tell me that if this were a terroist strike in NO DHS/The Feds would have performed differently?
No – the New Orleans desaster was announced several days before it happened.
A terrorist event would not be preannounced. The reaction would be worse.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 15:20 utc | 20

Armando’s got his tittie in a wringer over at dKos.
The first of what will become many bolshevik purges.
Red Army – White Army, ahh, can you smell the fear?
Level of discourse gone, Kuro5hin II bites the dust.

Posted by: lash marks | Sep 1 2005 15:31 utc | 21

One of the many aspects of the appalling lack of leadership is that there has been no call for people aorund the country to open thier homes. Some good souls are trying, but something like this needs careful central coördination. Shouldn’t that have been the thrust of a real leader’s speech yesterday, rather than letting everyone know how many bags of ice have been delivered?
Hell, offer tax breaks to everyone who takes a family in. I’m sure the difference can be made up out of the taxes on those record oil co profits. Right? Hello?
Putting families together like that, aside from saving lives, would be good for the country in general. And there are so many who would prefer to do that than simply write a check to a charity (not that that isn’t needed also).
Now, all that said, and understanding that it’s just wishful thinking, and that this band of incompentents has shown over and over that they couldn’t pull it off, what has happened to political imagination in this country?
Senator Clinton, where are you? Why isn’t your staff on the phone arranging transportation for a family to stay in your upstate NY home? Senator Kerry? Think, people, think. You want to lead? Do it now, by example, if only in a small way. It’s better than what we’ve got.

Posted by: mats | Sep 1 2005 15:37 utc | 22

80,000-100,000 dead?

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 15:42 utc | 23

b, there was a lot of discussion about those numbers last night on this comment thread.

Posted by: mats | Sep 1 2005 15:51 utc | 24

Certainly, part of the problem is that Homeland Security has been subject to no effective oversight. Making its hires and planning less a source of patronage and pork and more open and accountable is just as certainly part of the solution.

Posted by: optional | Sep 1 2005 16:23 utc | 25

“I don’t think anybody anticipated the breach of the levees. They did appreciate a serious storm but these levees got breached and as a result much of New Orleans is flooded and now we’re having to deal with it and will,” he said.

Bush insists help is on the way

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 16:24 utc | 26

maybe bushCo is waiting until after the sept 24th rally in order that the rightwingers can then blame the anti-war movement for not being sympathetic to the catastrophe on the gulf coast.
the reports of looters firing on rescuers, the reports of the superdome evacuation being stopped due to a person(s) firing on a military helicopter, these broadcast a message for those outside the area wanting to come in & help that they might want to think twice about it. the little green footballers & freepers no doubt will scream ‘why should we help those people? they don’t want to be helped.’ combine this w/ the reporting that the u.s. is refusing foreign assistance. whether any of this is true or not, it reflects just how truly sick this society is.

Posted by: b real | Sep 1 2005 16:31 utc | 27

American Chernobyl.
Just watch.

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 1 2005 17:06 utc | 28

i don´t get this. The stop the evacuation because “it´s too dangerous” because someone took a shoot at a heli.
This is crazy. People are dying at the dome and elsewhere. If some heli goes down it´s the smaller loss. Get the people out.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 17:32 utc | 29

Once again, no effective leadership from Der Bush, only pablum, and help is on the way, and more massive Fed bureaucracy and deficits to pay for it, long after the need is run short and thousands are dead.
Think how many $10B’s have gotten sucked out of our pockets for the
Homeland Defense, that just shows it only defends its own against US.
All that’s left now is NSA U2 overflights, Coast Guard rescues out to
Navy ships stationed offshore, the National Guard restoring order,
and Army Corps of Engineers rebuilding the levees. Oh, and Homeland
Defense “coordinating” all the activities through FEMA, more $10B’s.
If you’ve ever worked inside the beast, you know it’s a clusterf–k.

Posted by: lash marks | Sep 1 2005 18:40 utc | 30

okay, this is probably just the result of good contingency planning (right?), but, from sid blumenthal’s article

In early 2001, the Federal Emergency Management Agency issued a report stating that a hurricane striking New Orleans was one of the three most likely disasters in the U.S., including a terrorist attack on New York City.

Posted by: b real | Sep 1 2005 18:48 utc | 31

Folks,read the coverage at America’s blog, Eschaton and the BBC today. This is simply unbelievable. It is worse than 9-11 by orders of magnatude. And we’re talking 4 freakin’ days later. Deliberate genocide.

Posted by: Malooga | Sep 1 2005 18:53 utc | 32

So what was FEMA’s third most likely disaster, predicted in 2001? They’re 2 for 3 so far.
If it’s a major quake in the Pacific NW, I’d better pack my bags.

Posted by: catlady | Sep 1 2005 19:00 utc | 33

USA Today ‘Big Easy’ a bowl of trouble in hurricanes first published JULY 2000

The levee that holds back Lake Pontchartrain is 15 feet high while the one guarding against the Mississippi River is 20 feet tall.
Suhayda says the 15-foot levee will protect the city from a minimum hurricane of Category 1 or 2 intensity and at best a fast-moving Category 3 hurricane on the Saffir-Simpson hurricane intensity scale.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 19:02 utc | 34

There is currently a press conference of the governour of Lousianna.
A lot of blah, blah and some information.
Turns out – they don´t have land transportation as much as they need, and they didn´t really plan for this to take so long. Therby somehow they didn´t get enough food and water to those people.
Total fuck up – FEMA is not there – noone is in command.

Posted by: b | Sep 1 2005 19:08 utc | 35

Another sutext that must be driven home………….
The battle over evolution vs. intelligent design seems innocuous enough, but the underlying assault on science and empiricism has real-life consequences:
Molly Ivins:
“Our friends at the Center for American Progress note the Office of Technology Assessment used to produce forward-thinking plans such as “Floods: A National Policy Concern” and “A Framework for Flood Hazards Management.” Unfortunately, the office was targeted by Newt Gingrich and the Republican right, and gutted years ago.”
“In fact, there is now a governmentwide movement away from basing policy on science, expertise and professionalism, and in favor of choices based on ideology. If you’re wondering what the ideological position on flood management might be, look at the pictures of New Orleans–it seems to consist of gutting the programs that do anything.”
And Sydney Blumenthal:
“In February 2004, 60 of the nation’s leading scientists, including 20 Nobel laureates, warned in a statement, ‘Restoring Scientific Integrity in Policymaking’: ‘Successful application of science has played a large part in the policies that have made the United States of America the world’s most powerful nation and its citizens increasingly prosperous and healthy … Indeed, this principle has long been adhered to by presidents and administrations of both parties in forming and implementing policies. The administration of George W. Bush has, however, disregarded this principle … The distortion of scientific knowledge for partisan political ends must cease.’ Bush completely ignored this statement.”

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 1 2005 19:30 utc | 36

Jesus Tapdancing Christ, whats with the science, it is about common sense – basic practicality.
Ironically, they have won us a Darwin Award.

Posted by: Anonymous | Sep 1 2005 19:39 utc | 37

@Lupin — Chernobyl — sorta what I am thinking. an event that exposes the degree of cumulative rot in the system: corruption on all fronts. corrupted science and shortchanged engineering, corrupted political/economic ideals, corrupted government that has lost the basic principles of service and transparency. result: diversion and misuse of funds, mismanagement of critical resources, incompetence and miscommunication in management cadres, perverted priorities. end result: death and suffering on a moderate scale (I say moderate because as compared to the starving of the Ukraine or the US wars in Indochina, the death toll is likely to be significantly lower).
what makes it shocking to our instincts is that — like Rwanda or Saddam’s attacks on the Marsh Arabs, like the worst abuses of the Red Guard or the betrayals of the Vichy regime, it offends our sense of tribalism… hence the thrill of horror in the phrase he gassed his own people (whether this slur on Saddam is true or not, it has undeniable horror value). the us gummint has just visibly betrayed its own people, and this raises all kinds of questions.
imho the largely-white and -wealthy planner class does not see the poor Blacks of NO as “their own people” (cf Jensen’s recent essay on the persistence of racism in the US and the idea that the US is “a White Country”). any more than Saddam and his Sunni elites saw the Marsh Arabs or the Kurds as “their own people.” tribalism is smaller (and larger) than national boundaries, and many white Amurkans see themselves instinctively as part of an Anglo-American White Nation that spans the US and the Commonwealth, feeling more in common with white Aussie ranchers than with poor urban Blacks in their own country…
blatant racism in the yahoo news photo captions (pointed out by many observers) underscores this point.
but anyway, the fumbling, the incompetence, and more importantly the consistent history of several decades of deliberate ecological liquidation, risk-amplification, profit-driven recklessness that led up to the spectacle of “Greater Lake Pontchartrain” where NO once thrived, is very reminiscent of Chernobyl or the tragedy of Lake Baikal. hubris, denial, Lysenkoism of various flavours, obfuscation, dismissal of risk, misappropriate of funds, and a complete lack of concern for real-world outcomes, all are typical of an imperial power in decline.
a good time to read Jacobs’ latest, Dark Age Ahead.
The awful price of coastal ruin (Baltimore Sun) — cross ref to the tsunami damage results wfar more severe on SE Asian coastlines where wetlands and mangrove swamps had been left intact than where they had been brutally cleared “for progress and development.” there is a reason why rich coastal biomes hide behind extensive wetlands.

Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 1 2005 19:45 utc | 38

Congress to Vote on $10B Katrina Package
Sep 01 2:46 PM US/Eastern
By ANDREW TAYLOR
Associated Press Writer
WASHINGTON
The Bush administration intends to seek $10 billion to cover immediate relief needs in the wake of Hurricane Katrina, congressional officials said Thursday, and lawmakers decided to break off their summer vacation to approve the request by the weekend.
Several officials said the $10 billion would cover immediate costs for the Federal Emergency Management Agency, the government’s front-line responder in cases of natural disasters.
FEMA is spending an estimated $500 million a day as it struggles to respond to devastating flooding in New Orleans and severe destruction that spans the length of the Gulf Coast from Louisiana to Florida.
It is not necessary for all members of Congress to return to Washington to approve the funding. Several aides indicated the funds would be approved without a roll call vote, a so-called “voice vote” practice often used when there is no dissent about a piece of legislation”
. Drudge
Here’s precisely my point about massive Fed bureaucracy. What the hell is FEMA spending $500,000,000 a DAY on, anyway? The Coast Guard, Navy and Army efforts are all under different budgets. And what has FEMA accomplished for their $2,000,000,000 spent to date? 100 tour buses to the AstroDoom? Where the hell *are* the FEMA people now?!
What have they been doing with their $7B’s annual budgets, anyway?
http://www.fcw.com/fcw/articles/2002/0204/web-fema-02-07-02.asp
A classic example of the bloated Politburo Emperor, sans clothes.
More Bureaucracy, more $B’s deficit. The Bush (with a “B”) legacy.
Compassionate Fiscal Conservatives my florescent-blue hairy ass.
(On a brighter note, Louisiana Offshore Oil Port is back in operation)

Posted by: Lash Marks | Sep 1 2005 19:54 utc | 39

yikes, I should always preview. that last para got mangled somehow.
should read…
…cross ref to the tsunami damage results which were far less severe on SE Asian coastlines where wetlands and mangrove swamps had been left intact than where they had been brutally cleared…
sorry about that. as I have said before, ‘type in haste, repent at leisure.’

Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 1 2005 19:57 utc | 40

The sad reality is that a majority of Americans is probably more concerned about whether they will have gasoline for their SUVs than whether these people in New Orleans live or die.
Personally, all this makes me gladder than ever that I left the United five years ago to live in Latin America.
This belief that pervades American culture, that rich=good and poor=bad, is really sick.

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 1 2005 20:15 utc | 41

hubris, denial, Lysenkoism of various flavours, obfuscation, dismissal of risk, misappropriate of funds, and a complete lack of concern for real-world outcomes, all are typical of an imperial power in decline.
Without a doubt. I always thought that the destruction of the World Trade Center was symbolic of the end of this nation’s world domination. We have the most advanced weaponry in the world yet are unable to wage a winning war. The dagger has turned inward. Some uncontrollable weakness seems to have set into this society’s system. Thus the desperate last minute grab for wealth by those in power.
In this context, their ignoring of New Orleans makes sense. Why bother with a decaying system that they know is lost? The complete lack of care and protection coupled with the grab tells the true story. The chaos is the revelation. The absence of leadership.
This should be a relief in a way since we no longer have to keep up an illusion and can trust that our anticipation of their exit is not based on false hope. We can be witness the usual demise of corrupt emperors and be glad we’re not at court.

Posted by: jm | Sep 1 2005 20:19 utc | 42

@jm — I think Jacobs’ latest is chillingly relevant. she discusses significant trends: the class segregation of communities, the coring-out of urban centres, the decay of political involvement at the community level, the substitution of credentialling for education, the failure of self-regulation and -policing in the professions, the mandarinisation of public service, the abandonment of empiricism. all played their part in the fiasco of the flooding of NO.
DAA imho makes a good intro to Keen’s Debunking Economics, a highly detailed survey of credentialling, mandarinisation and the abandonment of empiricism in one highly specialised (and disproportionately influential) discipline.
I am retreating here into the long view and into geeky generalisations, because the ghastliness of this preventable tragedy is a bit too much to cope with. natural disasters are one thing, but natural disaster compounded by human stupidity and corruption is gut-wrenching to an additional degree… the waste, the tragic waste, the unnecessary suffering. argh. I gotta go write code and stop fulminating over NO for a while.

Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 1 2005 20:54 utc | 43

I do not know the source for this, from a kos diary:

FEMA has suspended all boat rescue operations, citing the dangerousness of the situation on the ground in New Orleans. The same source hinted that all local and state based boat rescue operations are either imminently being ceased, or already have been,for the same reason.

It certainly sounds consistent with other things which have been said and done.
I think it’s time to start wondering whether we’re headed for race riots in the cities in the near future. How can this look any way other than that the poor and black in New Orleans are simply being left to die?

Posted by: mats | Sep 1 2005 21:04 utc | 44

DeA- wrote:
imho the largely-white and -wealthy planner class does not see the poor Blacks of NO as “their own people”
I don’t see that has having primary relevance here, as you’re not only talking about wiping out people here, but levelling a beloved American city. This city is gone & it was known that it would be gone if the levees were not protected.
We now have a government that has No interest in protecting & preserving our country, or its people. Just out of curiosity what is it that the young are supposed to sacrifice their lives defending?? Bets on the Goddamn Jackass Party dragging out the National Service Plan now??

Posted by: jj | Sep 1 2005 21:27 utc | 45

As well as the deaths of thousands of people we are witnessing the death of a culture that was unique to the US in a way that the predominantly white protestant culture could never be. When I’ve been to NO the tourist that always seemed the most out of place were those from other parts of the US who acted as though they were in a foreign land/alien culture rather than the birthplace of much of what made the US unique.
Even if NO is rebuilt the complex societal relationships that developed in Louisiana for nigh on 300 years will be lost forever. Although the poor have always been terrorised and repressed in NO they had a place in the community rarely afforded to poor people in other cities. Jelly Roll Morton was poor when he ‘invented’ jazz. The poor white community also had a major influence on Amerikan culture that far exceeded the role normally accorded those with little material traction.
The problem will be that those poor that aren’t shot by the National Guard rushing to NO right now will be evacuated and it is highly improbable that many will have the means to return when and if rebuilding happens. Even if they do come back it will probably be to find that the parts of town that they used to inhabit that have been rebuilt have become condos and gated communities.
A great many of the poverty stricken probably own their dwelling but these are the people that get shafted in natural disasters since the dwelling which has often been in the family for generations is rarely insured. I imagine the first move by those in control will be a land tax increase using the need for redevelopment funding as an excuse. People who have just lost their livlihood and home are not usually best placed to meet any taxes much less increased ones. The city will grab the land in lieu and of course the few that do manage to pay the tax will be ripped by the Kelo decision from the Supreme Court which will determine that the public interest is better served by a corporation getting their land.
I haven’t heard much about the fate of the rural poor in Louisiana and Mississippi but those living close to the waterways which you would have to imagine would be most, will be in a worse situation than those in town. The tribalism inherent in small communities may keep them going for a while but we’re coming up to 5 days and no one has their act together yet so the local stores will be running pretty low on supplies.
Hopefully the media won’t be embedded with the National Guard so if they do start shooting the poor it will be difficult to do so without the worry of publicity. Even so has anyone else noticed that the foreign media such as the BBC seem to be presenting a much more objective picture of what’s going on? They have been talking to the stranded people instead of just filming them and passing judgement by voice over.
It’s vital that independent newscasters do get in there even though doing so will place further strain on resources. I have no idea where the national guardsmen are coming from but if they are just fresh from a Bagdhad rotation they will probably treat the locals as badly as they would any sand n….r.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 1 2005 21:31 utc | 46

Holy Hell. Look what I found on Americablog:
FEMA is directing donations to Pat Robertson’s Operation Blessing…
http://www.sploid.com/news/2005/…tson- 123509.php
D. Currington | 09.01.05 – 4:39 pm | #

followed on down by this:
FEMA has almost NOTHING but faith-based organizations on their list of approve places to donate, many of them quite wacky:
http://www.fema.gov/press/2005/ r…na.shtm#canhelp
D. Currington | 09.01.05 – 4:41 pm | #

(Pls. tell me if it’s illegal to copy a post from one blog to another)

Posted by: jj | Sep 1 2005 21:34 utc | 47

4:15 P.M. – (AP): Police say storm victims are being raped and beaten inside the New Orleans Convention Center.
About 15,200 people who had taken shelter at the convention center to await buses grew increasingly hostile.
Police Chief Eddie Compass says he sent in 88 officers to quell the situation at the building, but they were quickly beaten back by an angry mob.
Compass says, “We have individuals who are getting raped, we have individuals who are getting beaten.”
He says tourists are walking in that direction and they are getting preyed upon.
In hopes of defusing the unrest at the convention center, Mayor Ray Nagin gave the refugees permission to march across a bridge to the city’s unflooded west bank for whatever relief they can find. But the bedlam appeared to make leaving difficult.
City not safe for anyone
Times-Picayune Thursday, 3:45 p.m.
Across the city Thursday, the haunting fear of flooding was replaced by a raw fear for life and public safety.
Navigating the St. Thomas area of the Lower Garden District in an SUV, Times-Picayune reporter Gordon Russell, accompanied by a photographer from The New York Times, described a landscape of lawlessness where he feared for his life and felt his safety was threatened at nearly every turn.
At the Superdome and Marc N. Morial Convention Center, Russell said throngs of hungry and desperate people displaced by the flood overwhelmed the few law enforcement or miliatary personnel present.
“There was no crowd control,” Russell said. “People were swarming. It was a near riot situation. The authorities have got to get some
military down here to get control of the situation.”
Russell witnessed a shootout between police and citizens near the Convention Center that left one man dead in a pool of blood. Police, perhaps caught off guard by their sudden arrival on the scene, slammed Russell and the photographer against a wall and threw their gear on the ground as they exited their SUV to record the event.
The journalists retreated to Russell’s home Uptown where they hid in fear. They planned to flee the city later today.
Almost everywhere Russell went Uptown, one of the few relatively dry areas in Orleans Parish, he said he felt the threat of violence.
“There is a totally different feeling here than there was yesterday (Wednesday),” said Russell, who has reported on the aftermatch of Hurricane Katrina since the storm devastated the city on Monday. “I’m scared. I’m not afraid to admit it. I’m getting out of here.”

Posted by: Wolf DeVoon | Sep 1 2005 21:41 utc | 48

right around the corner, 2006 is the forty year anniversary of the formation of the black panther party, one year after the watts riot. i’m sure our brothers & sisters are paying attention.

Posted by: b real | Sep 1 2005 21:57 utc | 49

@jj I don’t see that has having primary relevance here, as you’re not only talking about wiping out people here, but levelling a beloved American city.
I was thinking not so much of the failure to protect the levees in the first place as the failure to evacuate the working class and poor, who in NO are disproportionately Black (or various shades of brown anyway), the failure to secure the situation on the ground and get aid in to those left behind, and the hamfisted treatment of the dispossessed and dependent refugees.
sounds like the situation at present, thanks to incompetent handling, is turning into a textbook illustration of the theories of the neocons’ intellectual darling, Hobbes. nasty brutish and short indeed. christ it is heartbreaking.

Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 1 2005 22:04 utc | 50

A copperhead was spotted swimming blithely through the poison soup that was once one of our greatest cities. And a three foot shark.

Posted by: jm | Sep 1 2005 22:33 utc | 51

a friend of mine has repeatedly made the point that the rulers of the USA now have no loyalty to the country whatever; they are international aristocrats, building up family fortunes that can easily be relocated overseas.

Posted by: ab | Sep 1 2005 22:41 utc | 52

DeA; the Guv’r issued an evacuation notice, he didn’t bother evacuate the hospitals etc.
Having lived with powercuts in the tropics in Africa and seeing what these people are having to suffer, hell is breaking out.

Posted by: Friendly Fire | Sep 1 2005 22:44 utc | 53

New Orleans: A Geopolitical Prize
September 01, 2005 22 30 GMT
By George Friedman
The American political system was founded in Philadelphia, but the American nation was built on the vast farmlands that stretch from the Alleghenies to the Rockies. That farmland produced the wealth that funded American industrialization: It permitted the formation of a class of small landholders who, amazingly, could produce more than they could consume. They could sell their excess crops in the east and in Europe and save that money, which eventually became the founding capital of American industry.
But it was not the extraordinary land nor the farmers and ranchers who alone set the process in motion. Rather, it was geography — the extraordinary system of rivers that flowed through the Midwest and allowed them to ship their surplus to the rest of the world. All of the rivers flowed into one — the Mississippi — and the Mississippi flowed to the ports in and around one city: New Orleans. It was in New Orleans that the barges from upstream were unloaded and their cargos stored, sold and reloaded on ocean-going vessels. Until last Sunday, New Orleans was, in many ways, the pivot of the American economy.
For that reason, the Battle of New Orleans in January 1815 was a key moment in American history. Even though the battle occurred after the War of 1812 was over, had the British taken New Orleans, we suspect they wouldn’t have given it back. Without New Orleans, the entire Louisiana Purchase would have been valueless to the United States. Or, to state it more precisely, the British would control the region because, at the end of the day, the value of the Purchase was the land and the rivers – which all converged on the Mississippi and the ultimate port of New Orleans. The hero of the battle was Andrew Jackson, and when he became president, his obsession with Texas had much to do with keeping the Mexicans away from New Orleans.
During the Cold War, a macabre topic of discussion among bored graduate students who studied such things was this: If the Soviets could destroy one city with a large nuclear device, which would it be? The usual answers were Washington or New York. For me, the answer was simple: New Orleans. If the Mississippi River was shut to traffic, then the foundations of the economy would be shattered. The industrial minerals needed in the factories wouldn’t come in, and the agricultural wealth wouldn’t flow out. Alternative routes really weren’t available. The Germans knew it too: A U-boat campaign occurred near the mouth of the Mississippi during World War II. Both the Germans and Stratfor have stood with Andy Jackson: New Orleans was the prize.
Last Sunday, nature took out New Orleans almost as surely as a nuclear strike. Hurricane Katrina’s geopolitical effect was not, in many ways, distinguishable from a mushroom cloud. The key exit from North America was closed. The petrochemical industry, which has become an added value to the region since Jackson’s days, was at risk. The navigability of the Mississippi south of New Orleans was a question mark. New Orleans as a city and as a port complex had ceased to exist, and it was not clear that it could recover.
The Ports of South Louisiana and New Orleans, which run north and south of the city, are as important today as at any point during the history of the republic. On its own merit, POSL is the largest port in the United States by tonnage and the fifth-largest in the world. It exports more than 52 million tons a year, of which more than half are agricultural products — corn, soybeans and so on. A large proportion of U.S. agriculture flows out of the port. Almost as much cargo, nearly 17 million tons, comes in through the port — including not only crude oil, but chemicals and fertilizers, coal, concrete and so on.
A simple way to think about the New Orleans port complex is that it is where the bulk commodities of agriculture go out to the world and the bulk commodities of industrialism come in. The commodity chain of the global food industry starts here, as does that of American industrialism. If these facilities are gone, more than the price of goods shifts: The very physical structure of the global economy would have to be reshaped. Consider the impact to the U.S. auto industry if steel doesn’t come up the river, or the effect on global food supplies if U.S. corn and soybeans don’t get to the markets.
The problem is that there are no good shipping alternatives. River transport is cheap, and most of the commodities we are discussing have low value-to-weight ratios. The U.S. transport system was built on the assumption that these commodities would travel to and from New Orleans by barge, where they would be loaded on ships or offloaded. Apart from port capacity elsewhere in the United States, there aren’t enough trucks or rail cars to handle the long-distance hauling of these enormous quantities — assuming for the moment that the economics could be managed, which they can’t be.
The focus in the media has been on the oil industry in Louisiana and Mississippi. This is not a trivial question, but in a certain sense, it is dwarfed by the shipping issue. First, Louisiana is the source of about 15 percent of U.S.-produced petroleum, much of it from the Gulf. The local refineries are critical to American infrastructure. Were all of these facilities to be lost, the effect on the price of oil worldwide would be extraordinarily painful. If the river itself became unnavigable or if the ports are no longer functioning, however, the impact to the wider economy would be significantly more severe. In a sense, there is more flexibility in oil than in the physical transport of these other commodities.
There is clearly good news as information comes in. By all accounts, the Louisiana Offshore Oil Port, which services supertankers in the Gulf, is intact. Port Fourchon, which is the center of extraction operations in the Gulf, has sustained damage but is recoverable. The status of the oil platforms is unclear and it is not known what the underwater systems look like, but on the surface, the damage – though not trivial — is manageable.
The news on the river is also far better than would have been expected on Sunday. The river has not changed its course. No major levees containing the river have burst. The Mississippi apparently has not silted up to such an extent that massive dredging would be required to render it navigable. Even the port facilities, although apparently damaged in many places and destroyed in few, are still there. The river, as transport corridor, has not been lost.
What has been lost is the city of New Orleans and many of the residential suburban areas around it. The population has fled, leaving behind a relatively small number of people in desperate straits. Some are dead, others are dying, and the magnitude of the situation dwarfs the resources required to ameliorate their condition. But it is not the population that is trapped in New Orleans that is of geopolitical significance: It is the population that has left and has nowhere to return to.
The oil fields, pipelines and ports required a skilled workforce in order to operate. That workforce requires homes. They require stores to buy food and other supplies. Hospitals and doctors. Schools for their children. In other words, in order to operate the facilities critical to the United States, you need a workforce to do it — and that workforce is gone. Unlike in other disasters, that workforce cannot return to the region because they have no place to live. New Orleans is gone, and the metropolitan area surrounding New Orleans is either gone or so badly damaged that it will not be inhabitable for a long time.
It is possible to jury-rig around this problem for a short time. But the fact is that those who have left the area have gone to live with relatives and friends. Those who had the ability to leave also had networks of relationships and resources to manage their exile. But those resources are not infinite — and as it becomes apparent that these people will not be returning to New Orleans any time soon, they will be enrolling their children in new schools, finding new jobs, finding new accommodations. If they have any insurance money coming, they will collect it. If they have none, then — whatever emotional connections they may have to their home — their economic connection to it has been severed. In a very short time, these people will be making decisions that will start to reshape population and workforce patterns in the region.
A city is a complex and ongoing process – one that requires physical infrastructure to support the people who live in it and people to operate that physical infrastructure. We don’t simply mean power plants or sewage treatment facilities, although they are critical. Someone has to be able to sell a bottle of milk or a new shirt. Someone has to be able to repair a car or do surgery. And the people who do those things, along with the infrastructure that supports them, are gone — and they are not coming back anytime soon.
It is in this sense, then, that it seems almost as if a nuclear weapon went off in New Orleans. The people mostly have fled rather than died, but they are gone. Not all of the facilities are destroyed, but most are. It appears to us that New Orleans and its environs have passed the point of recoverability. The area can recover, to be sure, but only with the commitment of massive resources from outside — and those resources would always be at risk to another Katrina.
The displacement of population is the crisis that New Orleans faces. It is also a national crisis, because the largest port in the United States cannot function without a city around it. The physical and business processes of a port cannot occur in a ghost town, and right now, that is what New Orleans is. It is not about the facilities, and it is not about the oil. It is about the loss of a city’s population and the paralysis of the largest port in the United States.
Let’s go back to the beginning. The United States historically has depended on the Mississippi and its tributaries for transport. Barges navigate the river. Ships go on the ocean. The barges must offload to the ships and vice versa. There must be a facility to empower this exchange. It is also the facility where goods are stored in transit. Without this port, the river can’t be used. Protecting that port has been, from the time of the Louisiana Purchase, a fundamental national security issue for the United States.
Katrina has taken out the port — not by destroying the facilities, but by rendering the area uninhabited and potentially uninhabitable. That means that even if the Mississippi remains navigable, the absence of a port near the mouth of the river makes the Mississippi enormously less useful than it was. For these reasons, the United States has lost not only its biggest port complex, but also the utility of its river transport system — the foundation of the entire American transport system. There are some substitutes, but none with sufficient capacity to solve the problem.
It follows from this that the port will have to be revived and, one would assume, the city as well. The ports around New Orleans are located as far north as they can be and still be accessed by ocean-going vessels. The need for ships to be able to pass each other in the waterways, which narrow to the north, adds to the problem. Besides, the Highway 190 bridge in Baton Rouge blocks the river going north. New Orleans is where it is for a reason: The United States needs a city right there.
New Orleans is not optional for the United States’ commercial infrastructure. It is a terrible place for a city to be located, but exactly the place where a city must exist. With that as a given, a city will return there because the alternatives are too devastating. The harvest is coming, and that means that the port will have to be opened soon. As in Iraq, premiums will be paid to people prepared to endure the hardships of working in New Orleans. But in the end, the city will return because it has to.
Geopolitics is the stuff of permanent geographical realities and the way they interact with political life. Geopolitics created New Orleans. Geopolitics caused American presidents to obsess over its safety. And geopolitics will force the city’s resurrection, even if it is in the worst imaginable place.

Posted by: Greco | Sep 1 2005 23:18 utc | 54

Can’t beat the US. Who else would consider putting a tsunami and Darfur on the same stage. Stand up and cheer!

Posted by: biklett | Sep 1 2005 23:32 utc | 55

jm wrote: “On the upside, I guess the United States won’t be attacking Iran this month.”
I’m not a bookie, but I’d say that score is still even money. If the motivation for attacking Iran was simply to get people talking about something besides Fitzgerald’s investigation, then, yeah, Katrina did the job. But that was never the entirety of their pogrom.
If you think a few thousand American deaths or few billion dollars of somebody else’s money lost would even give them pause, then I would suggest that you have been asleep for the past five years. Even as governor of Texas, Bush has taken a perverse joy in causing people to die and suffer. It doesn’t faze him. As a matter of fact, the only times he appears to be upset is when someone suggests constraining his death and torture machine.
The US has declined foreign disaster relief. Why? It’s a show of strength. What better show of strength than to launch another offensive right now?
The oil-dependent US just took a severe blow to their petroleum holdings in the Gulf. Break out your world map and look at the two areas in which the US is currently embroiled (Iraq and Afghanistan). Notice any common borders? Is there some other quality that those regions have in common? They don’t happen to have a lot of oil, do they? And a non-contiguous pipeline doesn’t do anyone any good.
I think you underestimate their lunacy, jm. I don’t think you are accustomed to dealing with addicts. These people are addicted to money, power, oil and destruction… and not necessarily in any particular order. Give a heroin addict a machine gun and then put his or her grandmother in front of a big pile of smack. How sentimental do you think that addict is feeling about now? Well, the addicts running what is left of this once-great nation into the ground have lots of machine guns and even tactical nuclear weapons. How sentimental do you think they are feeling right now about all the grandmothers suffering in the chemical bayou that used to be New Orleans?
Hurricane Katrina hasn’t changed the landscape as much as all that. If anything, it’s made an apocalyptic gang of criminally-inclined sociopaths even more desperate. It hasn’t decreased the odds of them doing something stupid, but it has increased the odds that their stupidity will be done with a maximum ruthlessness.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 1 2005 23:44 utc | 56

jm: “…misappropriation of funds…” Gotta tell ya’, this goes **way** beyond misappropriation of funds. That classic example is KBR-Halliburton running empty fuel tankers back and forth and
charging the US taxpayers for the full tank. Or “serving” 10,000 meals with only 5,000 eaten, because they profit from excess waste.
That’s chicken feed. Those are the ones OFM goes after, because
it’s no big deal to fess up, cough up the difference, applied to
your next IDIQ pork-bloated cost-plus contract. They’re, in effect,
“borrowing” against the future value of their contracts. The $1M
they misappropriate now, and have to repay in the future, they only
have to pay $0.75M in real dollars. Cheating is a currency hedge.
It goes way beyond that. Google “strategic procurement services”.
This outfit was touted, no, *pushed* by the Baltimore office of
Federal Procurement after Bush got elected. Their stated goal was
to “reduce redundancy” in Fed procurement, using the classic $75 hammer as a visual aid. Everyone in Fed procurement had to run
their purchases through SPS’s online database system. They were
to receive only a fixed-fee overhead of some, 8% I think it was.
All existing supply pipelines were cut and rerouted through SPS.
Exactly what happened to US intelligence, and FEMA emergency
services. Everything cut and rolled up into a superbureaucracy.
Well, I know buyers doing Fed procurement, and SPS was sourcing
and buying s–t from who knows where. Example, they bought goods
from Oregon through an Alabama company that had it job-kitted out of
Long Beach. That’s right! The jobber was buying from Portland on the cheap, adding their own markup before SPS’s, shipping the materials *twice* back and forth across the US to the trans-shipment point for overseas, and charging the goods out at Southern California prices.
SPS was marking up 28% instead of 8% on literally *tens of billions*,
and hitting the Fed even more for the double trans-shipment scam.
But it goes way, way, way beyond that. These Fed buyers and their back-pocket jobbers were running these duplicate procurement scams.
Say the head of FEMA wants 100 generators sent to New Orleans. The
buyers and jobbers get together, Gomer finds the cheapest crappiest generators he can find, sources them at his buddy Guber’s highest local price he can get, has them shipped down to Guber’s FOB, and then Gomer and Guber pocket that difference. They then write up *two* purchase orders for 100 generators each. Duplicates. And ships 200 generators FOB Guber at West Coast prices.
If caught, they’ll claim it’s computer error, “I hit Enter twice!”.
What they’re really doing is closing the procurement out with the first 100 cheap-ass over-priced generators, and routing the other 100 as excess into some government warehouse on a tracking number.
Then they watch their database pivot tables, until that tracking number pings up as “surplus”. Some warehouse guy is going, who the hell ordered these 100 generators? And everyone up the supply chain is going, hey, I don’t know, the order is closed! So they put new
stuff out as surplus on auction. Gomer and Guber show up and buy them for literally 1c on the dollar, $50,000 items going for $500!
Then Guber uses the surplus generators to fulfill the next FEMA order at full price, showing on his books he only made 8% as long as you don’t track the invoices back to the OEM using the SN’s. But he really made 10,000 per cent profit, selling the surplused as new
a second time. Gomer is literally *printing money* on your taxes.
Pretty soon everyone is in on the scam, everyone ordering more than
they need. My friends say they’ve seen entire shipping containers
full of materials arrive at overseas bases as surplus. They go for
1c’s at closed auction without advertisement, and get shipped right
back to a liquidation warehouse in CONUS for 10c’s. Everyone makes 1000 percent and it gets spread around quick.
Remember that nuclear plant in Arizona, where they found a brand-new $500,000 D-9 dozer buried out in the dump beyond the fence, waiting, no doubt, for the project to be over, so Guber could go dig up his
free dozer, and resell it back to the government for $500,000 cash.
So you wonder, how the hell can FEMA spend $500,000,000 of your hard-earned tax dollars *every day*? And on what? It’s because Gomer and Guber are wired into BizOps and Homeland Defense, they already know what will be in demand in a catastrophe, they’ve already sourced it, and it’s just a matter of hitting “Enter” on their procurement base.
I’ll bet FEMA shows up with some of the crappiest surplus equipment you can imagine, which is pretty funny considering we’ve been giving them $7,000,000,000 every year, and now $500,000,000 every f–g day!
And Bushster is ready to reward them with *another* $10,000,000,000.
No, this goes, way, way, way beyond any ‘misappropriation of funds’.
This is like when the cattle gets hooked by the leg and swung upside down, and the machete opens up its jugular with a great wash of red.
And like Abu Ghraib, it goes all the way to the top of the Red Mafia.
This whole high-yield junk government thing was created out of whole cloth by Ronald Reagan, but it took George Bush, and some very funny cartel money to take it to the next level on the day he got elected.
We’re being hollowed out like a pumpkin, our seed spit into our face.
1,100,000 more people just slipped into poverty! Americans have just
slipped into *negative* savings territory! That means if you deduct
the 1/25th of Americans (10,000,000) who are destitute on the street
or living in shacks and trailers, and deduct the 1/8th of Americans below the official poverty line (30,000,000 people living on Federal handouts), there is still *another* 125,000,000(+) Americans who are now living underwater, treading just below the surface, and heading down, anchored by 28% interest plus penalties on their credit card, until the Sheriff shows up and dumps their s–t out on the curb.
New Orleans is a “Fist of God” allegorical tale, saying to every one of US, “America is being drowned by the Red Mob! Wake up! Wake up!”
F–k dKos’s Army of the Dem’d, we need to get rid of Fed government!

Posted by: Renauld Arnaud | Sep 1 2005 23:53 utc | 57

You have a point, Monolycus.
Today he said that the war on terror must be fought to make us safe and that this would help the people in Mississippi and Louisiana. My view of his insanity moved to a place outside of my imagination.

Posted by: jm | Sep 2 2005 0:00 utc | 58

@jm Roger Morris’ evaluation of Dubya’s personality… and no-prisoners gossip sheet Capitol Hill Blue suggests that Dubya is losing it… could be scurrilous rumour, but iirc the scurrilous rumours about RMN all turned out to be true (boy howdy, did they ever).
but in a way he is like one of those talking dolls we had back in the 60s. you pull the string and it recites one of a handful of pre-recorded messages. “Terrorism… Responsibility… Safety… Freedom… Democracy… Amurkan Way of Life…” he recites the same old phrases regardless of the situation because those are the only phrases his makers recorded on the internal disc.
a friend writes re: refusal of foreign aid…

I’m getting the impression that rather than some conscious decision to go it alone, the Administration courtiers are just completely disorganized, distracted, and incapable of understanding–even cynically, instrumentally–what ordinary people are feeling. There’s a photo on the CNN site showing Bush gazing out a plane window; we’re told it’s Air Force One flying over New Orleans, but it’s such an obvious bit of stagecraft that people are likely to doubt even that. And he has the same smooth, idiotic blankness of expression that he wears for everything–he doesn’t even do the boyish lower-lip-bite subroutine that the Clintonbot executed on occasions when a show of emotion was called for.

Posted by: DeAnander | Sep 2 2005 0:18 utc | 59

RA,
Those we elevate to power have always operated using bribery, theft, and murder. removing them is like trying to chop off the limb of the mythicological hydra who just grew another one. If we get rid of the Federal government we will only create another mob until we get to the underlying source that makes us do this.
I’m afraid we are stuck until we learn to govern ourselves individually and do the right things out of genuine desire.

Posted by: jm | Sep 2 2005 0:23 utc | 60

Jeff Cull: FEMA Records of No Public Interest
Government lawyers asked a federal judge in Fort Myers to rule that it shouldn’t have to turn over Federal Emergency Management Agency records sought by three Florida newspapers. […] FEMA lawyers argued in a motion for summary judgment that was filed late Wednesday that there is little public interest in how the agency spent its disaster aid money. The feds also argued that the information is not public, that it’s protected by privacy laws and exemptions to the Freedom of Information Act. The newspapers contend that the information is public and citizens have the right to learn how the government is spending its money.
“FEMA acknowledges spending $5.5 billion taxpayer dollars after the hurricanes yet doesn’t seem to understand why the public is entitled to know where and how that money was spent,” said Jim Lake of the Holland & Knight law firm in Tampa, the newspapers’ attorney. “The public interest in this information is enormous, and we hope the court will order its release.”
[The above is from 12 August 2005. Will FEMA be more forthcoming now that they have a bigger disaster on their hands? Maybe we shouldn’t ask questions, since the government always puts our tax dollars to such good use.]

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2005 0:43 utc | 61

Will a government agency be more forthcoming simply because the scale is different? FEMA had the potential to be abused as a fascist tool before it was subsumed by Homeland Security… The elimination of an entire city doesn’t change that, it facilitates it. Just as 9/11 was a gift to BushCo, so is the New Orleans devastation.
New Orleans= Instant Empire. Just add water.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 2 2005 0:48 utc | 62

I agree, DeAnander, that Bush is losing it. He also talked today, in his further disconnect from reality, about the paradise the city would become when rebuilt and how good the people’s lives will be. Condoleezza was shopping for $1000 dollar shoes in NYC today and a women screamed in rage at her. She was promptly removed from the scene. Cheney is nowhere. And Rove was just in Crawford trying to boost his base after the Bush supporters crossed the ditch and joined Cindy in a vigil the last day. It culminated with them all holding candles and singing together.
Definitely out of control.

Posted by: jm | Sep 2 2005 1:02 utc | 63

With this tragedy, have progressives been given a tool for change?
I believe maybe they have, if they don’t squander it.
Martin Luther King said that the way to bring about change was to “dramatize the evils of our society in such a way that pressure is brought to bear against those evils by the forces of good will in the community.”
New Orleans is putting on display, for all the world to see, an economic and political system that is broken.
But King also knew that in “struggling for human dignity the oppressed people of the world must not allow themselves to become bitter or engage in hate campaigns.” His methods were based “on the conviction that the universe is on the side of justice. It is this deep faith in the future that causes the nonviolent resister to accept suffering without retaliation. He knows that in his struggle for justice he has cosmic companionship,” that “God is on the side of truth and justice…”

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 2 2005 1:30 utc | 64

This whole admin is cluster f—. But I do feel a little guilty after my rant the other night about people building in stupid places. Especially after that nimwitt Hastert said NO should be rebuilt. I sure don’t like that company.
The fact remains that most of US citizens will take it on the chin and Bushco will ride into the sunset with only the well informed outraged.
I called my congressman and one of our senators offices today. The reps office can’t believe the dem leadership isn’t crying from the rooftops about the pure incompetance of this admin. The senators office read off a list of greivances that he’s tried to address, but I haven’t seen him on tv.
I talked to an investment manager today also and I believe even Wall Street is starting to get pissed. He believes as I do that this is the most inept admin in my and his life. But as I said, will the sheeple remember in Nov 2006?

Posted by: jdp | Sep 2 2005 1:44 utc | 65

sorry for the typo, it should read Hastert said NO should “not” be rebuilt.

Posted by: jdp | Sep 2 2005 1:46 utc | 66

Hobbes might like to think he was right in the aftermath of the hurricane. However, what it shows, I believe, is the incredible pressures that lurk just below the surface of US society–US more than most I suspect. Social atomisation mean that many have simply know one to turn to. Very quickly desperation sets in in the search for non-existent basics–who wouldn’t ‘loot’ if you child was thirsty or hungry or needed medicines? Stealing guns is a rational self-protective response in a society where anyone, anyone might be out to do you harm, a feeling and statistical chance that has risen immesurably. The government flounders like the ‘failed’ states of Africa, or wherever, they patronisingly lecture to. This disaster simply signals the social breakdown that we can look forward to when environmental catacysms (feulled by global warming) become more general. One can clearly see the political tensions that would lead to war between countries when panic sets in. As war with the nieghbour would be a weclome diversion to the ineffectual state response. Paradoxially, New Orleans will be a welcome diversion for the Repubicans as the Iraq fuck-up becomes ever more dire.

Posted by: theodor | Sep 2 2005 1:50 utc | 67

The other great political strategist of the 20th century, Franklin D. Roosevelt, also knew a little bit about “dramatizing evil.”
From Since Yesterday, by Frederick Lewis Allen:
“Intermittently throughout the year 1933, the Senate Committee on Banking and Currency, with the aid of its inexorable counsel, Ferdinand Pecora, had been putting on one of the most extaoridinary shows ever produced in a Washington committee room: a sort of protracted coroner’s inquest upon American finance. One by one, a long line of financial overlords–commercial bankers, investment bankers, railroad and public-utility holding-company promoters, stock-brokers, and big speculators–had filed up to the witness talbe; and from these unwilling gentlemen, and from their office files, had been extracted a sorry story of public irresponsibility and private greed. Day by day this story had been spread upon the front pages of the newspapers.”
“The investigation showed how pool operators in Wall Street had manipulated the prices of stocks on the Exchange, with the assistance of men inside the companies with whose securities they toyed. It showe how they had made huge profits (which represented the exercise of no socially useful function) at the expense of the little speculators and of investors generally, and had fostered a speculative mania which had racked the whole economic system of the country–and this not only in 1928 and 1929, but as recently as the spring of 1933, when Roosevelt was in teh White House and wall street had supposedly been wearing the sackcloth and ashes of repentance. The investigation showed, too, how powerful bankers had unloaded stocks and bonds upon the unwary through high-pressure salesmanship and had made maillions trading in the securities of their own banks, at the expense of stockholders whose interests they claimed to be serving. It showed how the issuing of new securities had been so organized as to yield rich fruits to those on the inside, and how opportunities to taste these fruits had been offered to gentlemen of political influence. It showed how that modern engine of financial power, the holding company, had been misused by promoters: how some of these promoters had piled company upon company till their structures of corporate influence were seven or eight stories high; how these structures had become so complex that they were readily looted by unscrupulous men, and so unstable that many of them came crashing down during the Depression. It showed how grave could be the results when the holding-company technic was applied to banking. It showed how men of wealth had used devides like the presonal holding company and tricks like the sale of stock (at a loss) to members of their families to dodge the tac collector–at the very moment when men of humbler station had been paying the taces which supported the government. Again and again it showed how men occupying fiduciary positions in the financial world had been false to their trust.”
“Naturally the composite picture blocked out by these revelations was not fair to the financiers generally. The worst scandals got the biggest headlines. yet the amount of black in the picture was shocking even to the most judicial observer, and the way i which the severity of the depression had been intensified by greedy and shortsighted financial practices seemed blindingly plain. So high did the public anger mount that the New Deal was sure of strong support as it drove on to new measures of reform.”

Posted by: GlennS | Sep 2 2005 1:54 utc | 68

From WWLTV.com live video- Some NO police are now turning in their badges and resigning due to lack of support.
How will the American public react to seeing piles of bodies being burnt?

Posted by: biklett | Sep 2 2005 2:02 utc | 69

such natural disaster as this & the insuurrection in l a suggest to me that these cities of plenty are an illussion – a complete illussion
there is nothing in them except the people & they are treated like so much pet food. they are nothing – nothing at all to those who rule – to those who have too much already
fema’s incompetence is clearly apparent – because it was not meant to be used for ‘natural’ disasters but rather to deal with the anger, the discomfort, the resistance of a people – notably the poor but not only them
fema’s real reason to be was outlined very early & very clearly – it was to deal with kind of resistance that helped end the vietnam war. fema is very good at the planning of interning people but not at helping them
helping people has bever entered their minds
they help – only as a publicity operation – much like a killing action carried out by the einsatzgruppen. & in any case the real help comes from thos who cannot afford it – the poor always do the paying. they are alway given the fucking bill
those who rule – simply do not car n- nor do their talking heads – they couldn’t give a fuck except for entertainement – thus the red dots & moving maps – if it can be used to up the fear factor all the better – if it can be used to criminalise the poor more – all the better. if i was a poor person in new orleans i would help tear the whole fucking thing down. i would gladly loot & feel no pangs of conscience. i would be reminded how the planners of iraq desecrated the culture of iraq – how they tore up museums galleries & libraries – how they have destroyed archeologies – how they have destroyed living culture – i would be reminded of this & would steal all that came before me – gladly
the rulers pretend that their fortresses are immoveable – that their cities are made of gold. it is not true. it is made of human flesh. it is constructed with fear & control – or the human instinct that knows wrong would tear them down
these cities are illussions & you may as well call the atlantis – for all the real meaning they possess
what the supposed ‘fanatics’ of islam teach us – is that the human heart is a powerful instrument – when it is turned towards gods – it becomes blunt – but when it is turned towards one another – it is one of the wonders of humanity
what people are saying here – amongst many things – that their is no heart in america – in place of a heart is a machine – a killing machine. instead of instincts there is programme & control. where there should be courage there is fear. there are no tears in america – there is only hysteria fed again & again in a frenetic feeding frenzy of reality/information /reality show/information/reality into an infinitude of cruelties
yes i suppose i feel like those of the durutti colmumn – butn these cities to the ground & from the flames of the old will be born the seeds of the new – as they used to say
& that is what in their terrifying precision – the madmen of islam – taught the world in new york – they taught us that these symbols, the concrete reality of these symbols can be torn to the ground. certainly, there plan was also to create a sense of themselves disproportionate with their reality & certainly it is true it could not have been done without the complicity or incompetence of the state – but in its precision – this terrifying precision – they taught – exactly what illussion is
people have to turn physically away from that illussion with courage & have the courage to look at one another & their real contexts & to create real communities based on real & urgent needs
the ruling class are histroically & constitutionally incapable of doing that. as always, it is in the people’s hands

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2005 2:03 utc | 70

theodor
you say simply what i have tried to articulate in my fasion – so thank you
i am reinded today – (especially with your concern with time/speed) – that the magisterial work by tran duc thao – i guess it would translate as – phenomenology & dialectical materialism – would be of interest to you – nearly 40 years after it has been written – it is still resonating – no wonder althusser & the rest of his class at the ens were in awe of him
& it has a particlar resonance in relation to the illussion that capital creates

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2005 2:29 utc | 71

& to dadd
that in any case what is the looting of the people compared to the looting of the cheney bush junta & their corporate criminal allies at halliburton, enron etc

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 2 2005 2:37 utc | 72

Renaud Arnaud- illuminating post. thank you.
found this on the dhs site

For 2005, FEMA’s budget includes $20 million for planning and exercises associated with medical surge capabilities.

Increases totaling $37 million are included for operations of the Homeland Security Operations Center and to support FEMA incident management capabilities.

also, thanks for the link, uncle $cam, about fema telling the plebians to fuck off

Posted by: b real | Sep 2 2005 3:06 utc | 73

Shoot to kill, troops told

Posted by: Nugget | Sep 2 2005 3:22 utc | 74

@R’Giap
People are commodities to the elite. That’s it. You want to see how they deal with disaster management? There are models for it. Look at how Kentucky Fried Chicken deals with the living creatures they profit from. That is the same level of concern the federal government will show to the human population under its stewardship. It’s the same thing. As soon as a disaster becomes a liability in terms of cost/benefit, they are abandoned or made into a marketing device to recover lost capital. The cost in suffering does not enter into the equation.

Posted by: Monolycus | Sep 2 2005 3:25 utc | 75

from the ‘shoot to kill’ link:

“These troops are fresh back from Iraq, well-trained, experienced, battle-tested and under my orders to restore order in the streets,” Blanco said. “They have M-16s and they are locked and loaded.
“These troops know how to shoot and kill and they are more than willing to do so if necessary and I expect they will,” said Blanco.

“Just so that there is no hesitation on the part of my soldiers to open fire on civilians,” Blanco didn’t actually add, “they have been instructed to pretend the flood refugees are unembedded journalists.”

Posted by: b real | Sep 2 2005 3:43 utc | 76

Governor Kathleen Babineaux Blanco :
Is this one a Dem, or Republican/Southern Fascist?
Just curious.

Posted by: Groucho | Sep 2 2005 4:20 utc | 77

I just about lost it when I read that FEMA was telling people to donate to Pat Robertson.
Mulling over it, I’ve come to this understanding about what the Elite is doing to America. They’re implementing the Grover Norquist, Libertarian, Wall Street Plan. They’re gutting civil society, institution by institution. They’re replacing them w/ a neo-feudal state that will stand on 3 legs: Pirates (Wall Street & Top ~100 Corps. they control), Thugs (Military & Police, who will control anyone unlucky enough to still live here) & Theocrats who’ll take up the slack.
I wonder if FEMA is in such bad shape ‘cuz they’re in transit from being a Disaster Oriented Bulwark of a functioning Civil Society, to being responsible for overseeing the control of the masses in the coming Fascist State.

Posted by: jj | Sep 2 2005 4:26 utc | 78

Blanco be a Democrat, as is be mayor of New Orleans.

Posted by: anna missed | Sep 2 2005 4:34 utc | 79

Listening to predictions of the breakdown of Mississippi shipping for the upcoming Midwestern harvest reminds me of the disasters that crop up at the end of Atlas Shrugged. Wonder if the Randroids will finally figure out that BushCheneyCo aren’t the John Galts and Hank Reardons of the world, but rather the Wesley Mouches and James Taggarts.
Or the mindless grey drooling beasts from The Fountainhead. W’s personality construct has no functioning subroutines for reality-based disasters.
Now let’s hope some yo-yo doesn’t hit the switch on Project X out in Colorado….(“so they told us what they wanted was a sound that could kill someone from a distance, so we’d go ahead and the meters are over in the red…”)

Posted by: catlady | Sep 2 2005 4:41 utc | 80

Nagin is Mayor of NO. Blanco is Gov, I think.

Posted by: jj | Sep 2 2005 5:02 utc | 81

While FEMA is slow to reach those in New Orleans, they were quick to promote Operation Blessing , Pat Robertson’s controversial
faith-based “charity”, linking their website second only to the Red Cross. Hours after the federal agency was exposed by the blog sploid today, they quickly tried to hide their support for the pastor’s organization by changing their web pages.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2005 5:10 utc | 82

Bush gassed his own people. And he threatens the world with WMD.
It would now be perfectly justified if another country invaded, captured the bastard (along with Cheney, Rumseld, Rice, etc.) and hung him, like they did in Nuremberg.
I know I will learn to live without watching this, but in my heart I’ll never believe justice was done.

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 2 2005 5:32 utc | 83

FEMA chief: Victims bear some responsibility Nice guy that Mr. Brown.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2005 6:00 utc | 84

This talk of anarchy in NO is being used as an excuse for inaction. Days after the disaster there is still no meaningful relief being provided to the people who are stranded.
What the fuck’s goin on? Even if they didn’t maintain the levees and bunds they should still have a civil defence structure in place just in case shouldn’t they? It would be funny if it weren’t so tragic.
I realise the magnitude of this disaster has made the logistics difficult but the fact that no one has taken charge 4 days in tells us that there has been no civil defence infrastructure left after Homeland security grabbed all.
People are hungry and having to steal food. Women are being subjected to violence and rape in a community which has spun out of control. The usual response in the developed world is to go in with assistance. If you go in with a gun people will shoot at you but if you go in with food and water people will appreciate it. Why then stay away? Are they hoping the untermensch will all kill each other and get outta the queue at the trough where all the corporations and politicians are in up to their fetlocks?
Our Prime Minister has just beeen on TV saying that she’s been trying to send disaster teams like body recovery, search and rescue and civil defence planners and co-ordinators but they can’t get through to anyone who can tell them what’s needed where. They sent a message to the Whitehouse but no answer. She’s called in the US Ambassador but since he’s one of the campaign donors rather than a diplomat he doesn’t appear to know what’s going down.
Will the people finally get pissed off about this? Or will they put it down to the fatalism inherent in a 2000 year old superstition and let these pricks off the hook because they’ve been born again?
Surely there must be a limit to what people will tolerate. Even so I can’t help but suspect as other posters have that this doesn’t seem like anything to do with white amerika. When Kosovo was being hammered by the Serbs in the end it didn’t matter that they couldn’t speak the lingo because they looked and dressed just like anyone else down the mall so Clinton and all the other ‘leaders’ in the developed world were forced to ‘do something’ by people tired of seeing people just like them suffering.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 2 2005 6:32 utc | 85

jdp and others…..it really doesn’t matter whether any of these hacks are dems or repugs. they re all on the same corporate team…..one party system.

Posted by: lenin’s ghost | Sep 2 2005 6:35 utc | 86

Part 2 coming. Typepad is at it again! If I swear too much in a long post it’s called ‘comment spam’ and gets rejected. And no Groucho it’s not paranoia. If I don’t swear or keep the post relatively short it goes thru.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 2 2005 6:36 utc | 87

If people are just left to die in a kill or be killed scenario how will the black amerikans who’ve been held up as proof that the US is great deal with that?
Will Oprah load up her executive jet with supplies and head down there or will she load up a film crew and pray for the poor buggers?
Perhaps the lame and half hearted ‘integration’ that is meant to have occurred in the last 50 years will be seen to be a crock.
I for one still find it difficult to understand that most TV never shows cross-racial relationships even though such relationships are quite common in the real world in the US.
Lastly it’s easy to say from this distance but it appears to me that if the government isn’t going to do anything but use this as a way of fundraising for their right wing evangelical buddies, it’s time for ordinary people to go in and lend a hand.
There was an old hippie on TV tonight who had grabbed his truck and filled it up with bottles of water and headed south. He’s going back for more as soon as he’s given away this load.
That is probably what needs to be done. Dialling 0900SEND_MONEY_TO_XTIAN_TOSSERS may make you feel better but prolly won’t do much for people dying of thirst now. Four days is a long time to be without drinking water especially in the heat.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 2 2005 6:50 utc | 88

BLACKWATER! Is this the Battle of New Orleans ?
Blackwater provides mercenaries to provide “security” in Iraq.
Blackwater has been dispatched to New Orleans.
The New Privatized Amurika is so fucked, somebodies head needs to be on a pike!

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Sep 2 2005 6:59 utc | 89

This can’t be correct.
The governor wants to end the violence by shooting people? She’s an elephant fucker right? I mean no donkey bonker could possibly suggest such a thing could they?
The bit that really gets me is this
Despair is also affecting those in New Orleans charged with protecting the city, said State Police Superintendent Col H L Whitehorn.
Some New Orleans police officers have resigned rather than face the violence in the city.
“It’s my understanding those who have resigned said they have lost everything and it’s not worth being shot at and losing their lives,” Whitehorn said.

After all of those years criticising Iraqi and Vietnamese for running rather than fighting to protect US interests the same thing is happening inside Amerika. These guys can’t lay it off on foreigners not understanding the culture either. Come to think of it maybe that’s just what they’re going to do.
I’m sorry if this is coming across as some anti american rant cause that’s not what I feel. This is coming from a pro-people anti-corporate bullies place.
Time to wake up gang. New Orleans is a part of the US that is worth fighting for.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Sep 2 2005 7:07 utc | 90

When I think that only 48 hpours ago, no one who commented on Kos agreed with me that this had all the marks of a “failed society.”
Ha!
I hate to harbingers but the SoCal earthquakes keep coming; magnitude 6 yersterday, fortunately in a “relatively” empty area. (link).

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 2 2005 7:13 utc | 91

Debs wrote:
I realise the magnitude of this disaster has made the logistics difficult but the fact that no one has taken charge 4 days in tells us that there has been no civil defence infrastructure left after Homeland security grabbed all.
Probably close, but not dead on. I just heard – on radio, so no link – that when a hurricane was predicted to hit Fla. (last wk?) Pres. Bimbo declared a State of Emergency BEFORE the hurricane hit. That allowed FEMA to swing into action & pre-position supplies, and have the National Guard troops Already On The Ground when it hit.

Posted by: jj | Sep 2 2005 7:15 utc | 92

Frankly, I don’t think this entire country can be brought back to, say, the level it enjoyed in the 90s no more than Russia could return to its former stature once the slide had begun.
Too little, too late.
This rat left the sinking ship earlier this year and never felt so preescient. If another quake hits LA, I now know what we would have faced.
After Bush, if the Dems are any example, the best you can hope for is an American Yeltsin.
Welcome to the third world. Sic transit gloria mundi.

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 2 2005 7:32 utc | 93

From Antiwar.com: Oh, One More Thing, America…
As you’re watching all this footage of people in Louisiana and Mississippi sleeping in overcrowded gymnasiums, their homes destroyed, loved ones missing, jobs lost… just remember that YOUR money is going to pay Gaza “settlers” $200,000 to $300,000 per family to relocate from their cushy housing projects along the Mediterranean. Think any of your fellow citizens will get a deal anywhere near that sweet?

Posted by: Lupin | Sep 2 2005 7:36 utc | 94