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August 14, 2005
Sunday OT
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Frank Rich: Someone Tell the President the War Is Over
Oh, come on. It’s not like this is the first time Bush has demonstrated contempt for the will of the people. Ten million human beings protested his proposed invasion of Iraq in 2003 (more, if one can believe the rumours, than had ever protested against any single cause in human history)… and his response? He described them as a “focus group” and gave them a very insincere “I respectfully disagree”. To describe this administration as having a ears of tin is missing the larger point; they have hearts of stone and I.O.U.’s where their souls should be. Do not act surprised by the latest demonstrations of sociopathic behaviour when that has been evident all along. Posted by: Monolycus | Aug 14 2005 8:46 utc | 2 @Monolycus Posted by: jm | Aug 14 2005 12:15 utc | 3 OT in an OT thread: b: Ah, my mother’s family is from Hamburg, on her mother’s side. I’ve been, but only twice for short visits, and hope (of course!) to visit again someday. JM Posted by: jd | Aug 14 2005 13:49 utc | 6 Rich is dreaming. Posted by: tante aime | Aug 14 2005 17:33 utc | 7 jm- on another thread (Shia Autonomy?) I think you wrote that the Saudis are using more water to extract oil. Was this a new article? Do you have a link? Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 14 2005 20:04 utc | 8 @ b Posted by: catlady | Aug 14 2005 20:41 utc | 9 fauxreal, M. Simmons, Twilight in the Desert: The Coming Saudi Oil Shock and the World Economy (2005). On the Gharwar field, see also Bank says Saudi’s top field in decline (Al Jazeera) I know August is peak vacation time, but can’t help but wonder if the Radio address piece got Billmon a visit from a couple guys in dark glasses. Posted by: mats | Aug 14 2005 20:56 utc | 11 jd, Posted by: jm | Aug 14 2005 21:21 utc | 12 @ jm Posted by: catlady | Aug 14 2005 22:08 utc | 13 Here are some more clues on peak oil. Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 2:58 utc | 16 Billmon, Posted by: Mary | Aug 15 2005 3:03 utc | 17 jm wrote: Posted by: jj | Aug 15 2005 3:27 utc | 18 Could be, jj. But I think in the end it’s a losing battle for the pharmaceuticals and that’s why they are desperate. Why would they try to make them illegal if they didn’t perceive the threat? I still say the insurance compamies are a tell tale sign. When the wave comes in, they will be in trouble. There is only so much people can do to stop change. Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 3:38 utc | 19 So who am I supposed to believe here? jj you are assuming that big pharma will continue to have the power to dictate law, and that is based on the assumption that our lawmakers will remain legitimate. Perhaps instead many of them will be strung up for corruption – would you say 80 to 90 percent of them are lying sacks of shit? Posted by: rapt | Aug 15 2005 3:45 utc | 20 And pharmaceuticals are becoming unaffordable, so where does that put them? If people die they can’t make money on their drugs. And as health care is dropped by more and more people, the insurance companies lose. I see a crisis . Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 3:48 utc | 21 As a matter of fact, the health care crisis is positioned to become a huge political issue, with the power of the people a big factor. Parents are not about to sit by and watch their children suffer from lack of care. They would buy nutraceuticals on the black market if it came to that, and the dealers would lose out. I see trouble ahead for the drug pushers. Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 3:53 utc | 22 I’m just talking about the laws..who knows what reality will bring. But a major objective of the Century is to radically reduce the global population. And as someone noted earlier, Brzyzenski(sp??) said only 20% of the population is needed to produce…. Posted by: jj | Aug 15 2005 5:07 utc | 23 jj- can you source some of your comments, such as Reich’s two-tier system? Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 15 2005 5:53 utc | 24 Faux, Posted by: jj | Aug 15 2005 7:59 utc | 25 I’ve heard many times that certain factions of the elite have theories about population control and a desire for reduction. Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 8:13 utc | 26 Uncle $cam, Posted by: jm | Aug 15 2005 8:33 utc | 28 Hey Uncle , great link — and answers the question of why a serious, in the streets anti- war movement has failed to materialize. People are just worn out and too mesmerized by the capitaist end game consciousness, and this is important, to do anything but to lose faith in it to bring anything with a semblence of satisfaction. So they lose faith, not unlike Cindy Sheenan, camped longside a ditch in the heat in Texas, asking a singular question of why? The myth of exceptionalism, has run its course, in large part, by sucking all the oxygen from the belief that our government acts in our own mutual interests. Maybe the American people are begining to realize that like Cindy, they have been used, and left in a ditch. As a motorcade with the president drove by to yet another party. I think its sinking in, ever so slowly, ever so rabidly. Posted by: anna missed | Aug 15 2005 9:19 utc | 29 And, I think she personifies that with a pristine elegance rarely seen. Posted by: anna missed | Aug 15 2005 9:29 utc | 30 Sparked by your comments, jj. Posted by: jonku | Aug 15 2005 13:09 utc | 31 @ anna missed: “And, I think she personifies that with a pristine elegance rarely seen.”
more good stuff here. Posted by: beq | Aug 15 2005 13:53 utc | 33 beq, Yes, all last week on the radio I was hearing those words come outa’ her mouth, and I was struck by the effect they had on myself. They had this lyrical quality of being at once spontanious, genuine, and resolved, something akin to the truth found deep inside folk wisdom at the moment of germination. It is fascinating that there is this also this conext, or contrast to another simple talker, where-by his words are rendered brittle, choreographed and hollow slogans by comparison. Where art and life merge as one. It gives me hope. Posted by: anna missed | Aug 15 2005 18:24 utc | 34 Just for the fun of it – another Zarqawi “aid” was killed and now all will be well in Iraq:
It´s hard to write satire when they follow those writings. Jonku, we can see those questions as dragged in from other spheres that don’t relate to medicine if we consider the following: Posted by: jj | Aug 15 2005 20:34 utc | 37 “To build a great medical system, we’d shove them to one side & build a health maintenance system beside them consisting of Naturopaths, Chiropractors…” Posted by: gmac | Aug 16 2005 0:13 utc | 38 gmac, I couldn’t agree more. There’s ever so much bullshit. I’ve never tried homeopathy. While I know people for whom it’s worked, I’ve steered clear. Posted by: jj | Aug 16 2005 0:34 utc | 39 It’s not all voodoo. There are proven methods such as biofeedback for stress and heart conditions, acupuncture for pain reduction, yoga and Pilates for muscular and other structural problems, etc. There is a lot of work being done in California with heart patients and alternative methods with great results. Posted by: jm | Aug 16 2005 6:27 utc | 40
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