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August 5, 2005
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Poor, Poor Novak!

Posted by: Diogenes | Aug 5 2005 14:20 utc | 1

What!?

Posted by: beq | Aug 5 2005 14:53 utc | 2

I think he is referring to this

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 5 2005 15:44 utc | 3

if you can, watch Democracy Now! today. There is archival footage from the Hiroshima and Nagasaki bombings, the son of the writer who covered the event and was censored, an interview with the pilot of the Enola Gay…
Something to keep in mind at this time when we realize that Cheney is so evil that he would consider a nuclear option.

Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 5 2005 16:38 utc | 4

That Novak is an immense douchebag. I have watched that show once. It was like watching a school-yard screaming match. I emailed him and told him he’s the reason there’s an “ugly American” stereotype.
That these “people” even consider nuclear weapons in the game is obscene. If I am not mistaken, all the radioactive dust that has ever been put into play, is still in play and is blowin’ in the wind heavy metal style.
Except for all that has been absorbed by the life et al on the beautiful blue marble. This period – . – is a billion times larger than the mote of radioactive dust needed for the cells where it nestles to enter the Funhouse of Mutation.

Posted by: gmac | Aug 5 2005 20:18 utc | 5

dahr jamail posts today from the ‘veterans for peace’ national convention. he’s one of the featured speakers, but here he sits down w/ some newly converted veterans for peace.

Posted by: b real | Aug 5 2005 20:18 utc | 6

However, Charlie Anderson, another Iraq veteran, had strong words for Bush. After discussing how the background radiation in Baghdad is now five times the normal rate-the equivalent of having 3 chest x-rays an hour, he said, “These are not accidents-the DU [Depleted Uraniaum]-it’s important for people to understand this-the use of DU and its effects are by design. These are very carefully engineered and orchestrated incidents.”
3200 tons of DU so far……………………………………………………………………………………………………..

Posted by: gmac | Aug 5 2005 20:51 utc | 7

“Deportation will include those fostering hatred, advocating violence and validating such violence,” Blair said at a monthly press conference.

Among the things that would be illegal for immigrants under Bliar’s proposed new laws.
• Immigrant child could not insult another child
• Parent of the child could not advocate spanking the child to express disapproval.
• Immigrant psychologist could not explain a pro and con comparison of whether to spank or speak to the child.
Talk about Trojan Horses! All immigrants would be liable to expulsion under such language. I guess we really are creating a new slave class – not that that would be reason for violence, not by any means.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 5 2005 20:55 utc | 8

The photo accompanying the article linked by dan of steele above claims to be from 2003, but Karl Rove is wearing an “I’m a Subject not a Target” button. Odd.

Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Aug 5 2005 21:29 utc | 9

“source”, not subject. found this explanation in vanity fair, which also included a nice quote

At the Army and Navy Club celebration, people wore buttons reading “I’m a source, not a target”—a nod to Novak’s statement that for him people fall into one category or the other. Even those who find him crude feel elevated in his aura; hanging around him, appearing in his column, are signs you’ve arrived, even when he whacks you. Always, though, there is the debate over what is at the man’s core. “Underneath the asshole is a nice guy, but underneath the nice guy is another asshole,” Michael Kinsley, a Crossfire veteran, has said.

larger pic here

Posted by: b real | Aug 5 2005 21:38 utc | 10

Legal dynamite – but who will accuse them?
British, U.S. lied about justification for pre-war Iraq airstrikes

U.S. Defense Secretary Donald Rumsfeld, and Geoff Hoon, his UK counterpart, said the stepped-up attacks by U.S. and Royal Air Force aircraft patrolling the southern no-fly zone were a response to increased attacks by Iraqi air defences.

But figures released last month by the British Ministry of Defense show that in the immediate aftermath of the Sept. 11 attacks, with American officials predicting moves to oust Saddam Hussein, Iraq dramatically scaled back its attacks on allied aircraft.
During the first seven months of 2001 the allies recorded 370 “provocations” by the Iraqi military against allied aircraft. But in the seven months between October 2001 and May 2002 when the allies stepped up their attacks, there were just 32.

The number of recorded threats dropped markedly in October 2001, the first full month after the Sept. 11 attacks, from 24 in September to just eight in October.
With U.S. officials openly predicting that an attack on Afghanistan would be followed by an invasion of Iraq, the number of recorded threats kept dropping.
By February 2002, there were just two, in March none and in April again two. Such was the reduction in the number of Iraqi threats that in the six months leading up to the “spikes of activity” British aircraft did not at any point need to respond in self-defence.
In May, after Rumsfeld ordered the allied attacks be stepped up, the Iraqi responses rose to 20, leading to yet further allied attacks.

Lord Goldsmith, Attorney-General, did not advise that military action against Iraq was legal until Mar. 7, 2003, ten months after the allies stepped up their attacks on the Iraqi air defences.
Congress, which under the US constitution has to give its backing before the President can order military action, did not do so until October 2002. The war officially began Mar. 21, 2003.

Posted by: b | Aug 5 2005 22:01 utc | 11

Further evidence that the right to bear arms is an important bulwark against the tyranny of government.

Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Aug 5 2005 23:19 utc | 12

Robin Cook collapses and dies

Posted by: R.I.P. Robin Cook | Aug 6 2005 18:12 utc | 13

working link to Robin Cook article

Posted by: dan of steele | Aug 6 2005 19:12 utc | 14

more on some stories some of us were following here…need a Mark Lombardi poster to get all the connections or intersections.
AIPAC spy case- the documents were about Iran…the issue was about war in Iran.
MoA back when:
the 12th Iman
Sibel Edmonds talks in Vanity Fair…who made everyone remove the .pdf of her article, but the most explosive bit concerns allegations Hastert was taking bribes from Turkey and engaging in some election-time bait and switch concerning Armenians and Armenian genocide in Turkey. Seems there is a wiretap. (This is in addition to her previous claims about the FBI seeming more concerned with protecting its incompetence and cronyism and nepotism…in a situation where a person who couldn’t understand the language did “interviews” at Gitmo.
so, get the Septemer issue. The article is about 10 pp. in photocopied .pdf format…which is no longer online.
The ACLU is trying to reverse a lower courts’ decision on Edmonds’ “double plus super secret state secrets” injunction.
Is this the soft coup that has been rumored or wished for among reality-based elitists?
From Jim Lobe at Asia Times:
As US President George W Bush announced the unprecedented recess appointment of ultra-nationalist John Bolton as his next ambassador to the United Nations, a group of diplomatic heavyweights was preparing to launch a bipartisan coalition to promote a return to a more moderate and multilateral foreign policy.
While the group, which calls itself the Partnership for a Secure America, was not explicitly set up to act to oppose the more radical initiatives of the Bush administration, the chief organizers – both Republicans and Democrats – have sometimes been harshly critical of specific Bush policies, especially the decision to go to war in Iraq and innovative policy initiatives such as the promotion of preemptive war against “rogue states”.

And who might those folks be?
ROLL CALL!
DLC:
Bill Clinton
Jimmy Carter
Samuel Berger
Zbigniew Brzezinski
Warren Christopher
Anthony Lake
William Perry
Richard Holbrooke
Bush Sr. Republicans:
Howard Baker
John Danforth
Lawrence Eagleburger
Robert McFarland
Carla Hills
Nancy Kassebaum Baker
Thomas Kean
John Whitehead
Thomas Pickering
The new group will formally launch itself Wednesday at a news conference in Washington conducted by two well-known and respected former lawmakers, Lee Hamilton, a top foreign-policy Democrat during his many years in the House of Representatives, who also co-chaired the 9-11 Commission and currently serves as head of the influential Woodrow Wilson International Center for Scholars, and Warren Rudman, a prominent Republican moderate and former senator who has served on several bipartisan commission over the past two decades.
“The Partnership for a Secure America (PSA) is dedicated to recreating the bipartisan center in American national security and foreign policy,” according to the group’s mission statement.

…and is a direct rebuttal to Junior’s apocalyptic asshole govt. and of course, this comes at a time-
1. when Hastert may come under indictment for accepting bribes from Turkey, (btw, he said al q. wanted Kerry to win way back when.)
2. when portions of the Bush administration may be indicted for the AIPAC scandal
3. when the Bush administration’s “brain” is under the microscope for possible violation of state security secrets.
Of course, the new and improved succession in Patriot Act 2 would make sure no democrat becomes leader (cough, Pelosi, cough) as long as the bushites are around, by changing the presidential line of succession to run through the cabinet first, then to ambassadors living outside of DC…

Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 6 2005 19:32 utc | 15

NYTimes
The Timesmay neverlearn the difference between mere reporting, on the one hand, and running interference for AIPAC, on the other. None of us can teach this elementary fact of life to a newspaper; we can only discount its credibility.

Posted by: alabama | Aug 6 2005 20:25 utc | 16

Alabama, there have to be Close Relations between NYT Ownership & AIPAC. AIPAC couldn’t pursue it’s policies w/NYT’s opposition, not to mention that owners of NYT are Pivotal Figures in Jewish Community.
Even worse, Amy Goodman announced on Democracy Now yesterday that she & her brother, David, are filing papers to have one of Times’ Pulitzer’s withdrawn. The one given to Walter Laurence (Judy Miller I??) for his coverage/suppression of the nuclear devastation in Japan. Turns out he was being paid simultaneously by NYT & War Dept. Did NYT know? Rather. There was meeting @NYT w/reporter, War Dept., NYT Publisher & Editor where it was brought up & agreed upon. Apparently only the sheep are just finding out just precisely what it means to be the Newspaper of the “official Record”. link

Posted by: jj | Aug 6 2005 20:50 utc | 17

The Robin Cook death appears to have sailed through to the ‘keeper at MoA with few recognising it’s significance.
This chap was Foreign Secretary in Bliar’s government until Bliar worried about his ‘reliabilty’ ‘selling’ the Iraq invasion to the population. As soon as he realised that the invasion was inevitable, that no matter what anyone said or did Bush was going in and Bliar was going to follow him Cook pulled the pin on Cabinet.
Throughout the last UK election Cook was a continual thorn in Bliar’s side and he was also the most credible alternative to a leader of the party if Bliar got the flick as the media’s most widely spruiked alternative Gordon Brown is just another not very smart careerist hack.
One month ago Bliar was on the skids looking at leaving the job in ignominy but after the London murders his popularity began to wax once more.
However if there was ever going to be a inquiry in the US about the Downing Street memo Robin Cook’s appearance before that inquiry would certainly put the kybosh on Bliar as well as the US repugs. Cook knew where the bodies were buried and nothing to lose (so he thought anyway) and had the inconvenience of being far more credible than a ‘lefty looney’ like Galloway.
In addition Bliar’s attempt to criminalise criticism of his actions would have been met with opposition from backbench labour MP’s who would have looked to Cook to provide leadership as well as a principled voice to their opposition.
It is worth noting that in addition to heart failure Cook suffered numerous injuries after his ‘fall’.
Conspiracy theories will abound and the off the wall nature of some them will serve only to reassure middle Britain of the lunacy of others. Nevertheless we should all take note of the fact that the warmongers are regarding the current state of scepticism amongst the public as a temporary setback and are fighting with all weapons at their disposal.
On the positive side the fact that they may be resorting to these sort of techniques tells us that they are under pressure and likely to make a major error at any time.

Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 6 2005 22:26 utc | 18

Og and Urg (Little petro modo joke for you homies….)
Og the Young is sitting on a knoll with his older brother Urg,
breaking bones up for their marrow, and watching a young
maiden carry water jugs back and forth from a pond below.
Being Neanderthals, they only speak when truly inspired.
“Will you check out the points on that upright one!” says Urg.
Og remains silent, watching, his heavy brow troubled. The
equinox Harvest & Hunt blowout still seems months away,
and he’s in physical pain at the thought of his first orgy fest
with one of those upright-walking, light-skinned hominids.
He rises to a three-point stance and beats his chest.
“Come on, Urg, knock me out!”
“Wha-a-a?”
“Knock me out,” Og pleads, “I can’t wait until that party!
I’m hurting, dude!” He clutches at his throbbing nates.
Urg thinks a moment, and suggests a delaying tactic.
“Let’s play a game,” he says, slowing scratching a thorny
branch at the ground, gently annoying Og to avoid it and
so slowly turn, until the pond, and maiden, is behind him.
Og, now mollified, at least in his visual cortex, agrees.
“OK,” Urg begins … “Knock, knock.”
“What’s there?” Og replies.
“Not ‘what’, you Cromagnum, ‘who’ … ‘who’!”
“Who else”?” shrugs Og, “There’s only you and me here.”
Urg shakes his head, starts to give up, then agrees.
“OK, knock, knock.”
“What’s there?”
“Stone.”
“Stone what?”
“Stonehenge, you idiot!” says Urg, laughing until his belly hurts.
Og scratches his head. Finally Urg has to explain it for him.
“Stonehenge … equinox … duhh!”
Og still doesn’t get it, but hey, he’s a pre-hominid, right?
“Wha … ?” he blinks.
“Time, Og, time! The equinox orgy fest was *last* week!”
– – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – – –
http://www.rrojasdatabank.org/ [Your weekly study guide]
Read it and weep for CAFTA’s Latin American victims.
Millions of poor families and a whole agrarian ecology
wiped out at the stroke of a pen, like some Chicxulub-
event but with a silent explosion, a slow groundswell,
a steady stream of migras, probing our borders for a
chance to piece-work picking lettuce in 120-degrees,
or work as a live-in maid in New York for sub-minimum
wages, no benefits and an abusive rich-bitch governess,
knowing they may never see their spouse or their children
again, and most certainly never see their former homeland.
Is this a great country, or what?!

Posted by: tante aime | Aug 6 2005 23:25 utc | 19

1st……”did you hear this knock knock joke?”
2ed….”well, okay”
1st…..”knock knock”
2ed… “whos there?”
1st….”control freak”
1st…. “now say control freak who?”

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 7 2005 0:19 utc | 20

robin cook had also just several weeks back made the public claim that the name AQ denotes the database, as in the database that the cia kept on reagan’s co-patriot exemplars, the mujahadeen (not to be confused w/ the students comprising the taliban). this week, bush attempted to construct a sentence in front of reporters linking AQ to iraq as the reason why the mission is not complete. things that make you go hmmmm.

Posted by: b real | Aug 7 2005 6:59 utc | 21

only can find one source for it, but this doesn’t sound good, if there’s any truth to it:

Newsweek’s Michael Isikoff will splash a story in tomorrow’s Newsweek which reveals that the boss of CIA leak probe prosecutor Patrick Fitzgerald is likely to be replaced by a former Bush classmate at Yale.
What’s more, Newsweek has found that the new boss is a fellow initiate of the Yale secret society, Skull and Bones. Details will appear on the magazine’s website early Sunday and on newsstands Monday.

nothing up yet on the newsweek site

Posted by: b real | Aug 7 2005 7:43 utc | 22

Robert Bear (ex-CIA) on suicide bombers:
This deadly virus

Stopping suicide terrorism will not be easy. The worst possible mistake the British authorities could make is the one they are making right now; targeting and stopping and searching young Muslim-looking males catching trains or tubes. It is stupid and counterproductive.
Such blanket searches are supposed to intimidate the bombers. But how can you intimidate someone who wants to die? In the end all you are likely to do is spread resentment among young British Muslim males and play into the hands of the bombers and the cult.
Suicide bombers are the smartest weapons ever invented. The bombers will simply wait for the police cordon to exhaust itself through insufficient manpower and then strike. Or they will switch targets to cinemas, sports stadiums – wherever large crowds gather.
The only sure way of stopping the bombers is to have agents in their cells.

To stop suicide bombers you have to intercept them in the planning stage. You cannot rely on telephone taps but only on old-fashioned spies and informers. Sources that in the intelligence world we call ‘humint’ or human intelligence.
The key question then for the British intelligence agencies is how well you understand the language of your enemies? How many officers does MI5 have who speak Urdu or Arabic? How many informers in mosques in Yorkshire does Special Branch have? Who has been working on recruiting informers to arrest these suicide bomb cells as and when they appear? The answer to all of these questions is, I suspect, hardly any. It is time to catch up quickly. This is the first rule of intelligence warfare – understand your enemy.

Posted by: b | Aug 7 2005 7:52 utc | 23

@Debt – I agree, the Robin Cook death looks suspicies.
Robin Cook: Why I cannot be part of this divisive war

For four years as Foreign Secretary I was partly responsible for the western strategy of containment. Over the past decade that strategy destroyed more weapons than in the Gulf war, dismantled Iraq’s nuclear weapons programme and halted Saddam’s medium and long-range missiles programmes.
Iraq’s military strength is now less than half its size than at the time of the last Gulf war. Some advocates of conflict claim that Saddam’s forces are so weak, so demoralised and so badly equipped that the war will be over in a few days.
We cannot base our military strategy on the assumption that Saddam is weak and at the same time justify pre-emptive action on the claim that he is a threat.
Iraq probably has no weapons of mass destruction in the commonly understood sense of the term – namely a credible device capable of being delivered against a strategic city target. Why is it now so urgent that we should take military action to disarm a military capacity that has been there for 20 years, and which we helped to create?
It has been a favourite theme of commentators that this House no longer occupies a central role in British politics.
Nothing could better demonstrate that they are wrong than for this House to stop the commitment of troops in a war that has neither international agreement nor domestic support.
I intend to join those tomorrow night who will vote against military action now. It is for that reason, and for that reason alone, and with a heavy heart, that I resign from the government.

Posted by: b | Aug 7 2005 7:57 utc | 24

“Deportation will include those fostering hatred, advocating violence and validating such violence,” Blair said at a monthly press conference.

More thoughtcrime news from the Global War On Thought
Christopher Bradley

But the invasion of Iraq was justified by the New York bombings? It’s precisely this sort of hypocrisy that pisses people off. How many people, all over the world, are going, “Sir, you most definitely believe in the principle of retaliatory violence, even when it violates international laws and standards. Further, what was done to London is insignificant to what you have done to the whole of Iraq. Your own organizations have determined that between 25,000 and 100,000 innocent civilian Iraqis have been killed by coalition violence in Iraq, which your government fully supports from inception to the present. Indeed, the damage that you and your allies have done dwarfs on all scales the violence done to New York on September 11th, 2001. Al-Qaida destroyed a few buildings, bombed a few tunnels; the invaders of Iraq wholly destroyed Fallujah, a city of 300,000 people, so that no stone stands next to another.”
So, Blair clearly believes that it is acceptable to meet violence with violence. The idea that violence in one place does not justify violence in another place is preposterous, to be guided by his actions. Of course, the article doesn’t mention the absurdity of what Blair is saying.

It’s a shame Blair isn’t an immigrant himself – it might be fun to see if his petard works.

Posted by: citizen | Aug 7 2005 15:08 utc | 25

Where have MoA-ites been hanging out this morning?
For the biggest and best news of the day go check out Tom Flocco; his sight was inaccessible for a couple of days, causing some worry, but this morning he is back up with some high powered allegations. It appears that Fitz has bushco cornered and is coming in for the kill.
Some good discussion of this on rigorousintuition blogspot too.
As usual most of the MSM is dead silent on the biggest issue ever.
According to Flocco, Renquist and Scalia are unindicted coconspirators, so we have a case that goes back to the 00 election at least. This grand jury has the bit in their teeth now and isn’t ready to let it go for awhile.
Oh gawd it gives me the chills.

Posted by: rapt | Aug 7 2005 16:52 utc | 26

rapt- I try to have an offline life too, strangely enough…so stuff you don’t want to do in the a.m., and the lake soon…yeah!!
b- fwiw, the guy’s name is Baer. his paperback version of his book that talks about Saudi Arabia…Sleeping with the Devil is the name, I think, is remaindered now, btw, if anyone wants a cheap copy.
I’ll check out Flocco, but if he makes me start speaking Sheepalese again, I dunno… 🙂
What made it possible to keep Nixon from pulling a similar tactic with Cox during Watergate? Public, congressional, media outrage? Do we need to have a demonstration in front of the justice dept if Bush tries to Kissinger-off Fitzgerald?

Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 7 2005 19:04 utc | 27

more during my break from my neverending Project Find-the-floor..
…a spicy bite of tartar from flocco:Following on the heels of these reports, we have learned from U.S. intelligence sources that federal agents are prepared to immediately arrest Mr. Bush if he fires Fitzgerald and seeks to obstruct justice and commit additional treasonous acts regarding ongoing grand jury proceedings against his administration and himself.
here’s more, tinfoil that I plan to make into deely-boppers;
Last week, other sources close to the investigation said the recent bomb scare in the subway under the Dirksen Federal Building, coincidently near where Fitzgerald was holding his grand jury hearings, raised serious questions as to whether government operatives loyal to Bush were sending the zealous prosecutor a “warning message” that he was entering murky waters with the extent of his investigation.
here’s an mp3 about the same from a show called cloak and dagger (the interview starts a couple of minutes into show.)
–according to a guy in the interview, there are multiple grand juries for various crimes.
And, the coup de grace here: simulated gas attacks on NYC subways, etc. over the next three weeks.
…and what was that about a terror exercise the day of the first London bombings? (not the copycat attempt)…and what was that about the terror exercise on 9-11 simulating an attack on the Pentagon, etc?
this tinfoil will serve me well at the lake to deflect the uv rays.

Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 7 2005 19:45 utc | 28

There are no facts,
only interpretations.
-N. tesla

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 7 2005 20:57 utc | 29

@fauxreal- tried your links from your 3:45 post,
all I get is an “access forbidden from this server” message

Posted by: possum | Aug 7 2005 22:51 utc | 30

the aforementioned pertains to the flocco links.

Posted by: possum | Aug 7 2005 22:52 utc | 31

Possum, word is that Flocco’s site has been hacked again, that he has had to move to another server etc. These reptiles play for keeps.

Posted by: rapt | Aug 7 2005 23:06 utc | 32

@rapt-A bit tardy,but thanks.

Posted by: possum | Aug 8 2005 0:02 utc | 33

my thanks being tardy.:}

Posted by: possum | Aug 8 2005 0:03 utc | 34

possum- sorry. I was able to connect when I posted, cause I did check. now I get something about the website being fixed or whatever. The mp3 talks about a lot of the same things, and if you goggle his name, indymedia sites have the information up, but no where else. So I suppose we’ll see how right or wrong the guy might be.
.queen drama a is Flocco maybE
.not maybe oR
dang, I was afraid I’d start speaking Sheepalese. who knows, maybe Flocco is showbiz.

Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 8 2005 3:39 utc | 35

The Return of Panopticism [PDF]
Supervision, Subjection and the New Surveillance
Bart Simon
Abstract
This article revisits Foucault’s concept of panopticism as it pertains to research on the new surveillance. Drawing on the work of neo-Foucauldian authors in surveillance studies the paper shows how the figures of the supervisor and inmate within the Foucauldian diagram suggest different directions for pursuing surveillance theory. On the one hand, there is a concern with processes of subjection and normalization that arise through the internalization of the gaze, while on the other there is a concern with processes of administration, social sorting and simulation that occur independently of embodied subjects. Foucault’s model both allows for these twin concerns within the context of the new surveillance while serving as a source of further insight into the empirical nuances of contemporary surveillance relations.
Recent world events following 9/11 and the expansion of the digital infrastructures of modern societies have conspired to produce a surge of interest in the interdisciplinary field of surveillance studies. The social and material practices of surveillance with its implications for the production of social order and social control are receiving renewed attention as more pervasive forms of institutional monitoring are being developed. Dataveillance (the collection, organization and storage of information about persons) and biometrics (the use of the body as a measure of identity) for instance have not only come into focus with the post 9/11 security consciousness of state institutions but these technologies are now becoming a regular feature of the everyday lives and culture of citizens. For many scholars these technological innovations fundamentally alter the organization, practice and effects of surveillance relationships, making them at once more dispersed, pervasive, fluid, and invisible. While the jury is still out as to whether this “new surveillance” heralds more repressive forms of social control or introduces greater capacities for negotiation and resistance, their appearance has spurred scholars to revisit canonical metaphors, tropes and models for understanding the character and significance of modern surveillance.
See also :
Foucault and Panopticism Revisited

a special issue of Surveillance and Society
surveillance-and-society

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 8 2005 3:40 utc | 36

Esp. for Gylangirl – god knows how you stayed awake to get yr. degree in Patriarchal Numerology, but know this won’t surprise you:
What do you say about people who define “rationality” as a myopic focus on the self and its desires, and who regard the well being of others as an “externality”in the drama of life? What do you say of people who can’t tell the difference between price and value, and who think that when a kid sits on a couch and plays video games and feeds his face with junk food, and then needs medications for obesity and attention deficit, the result is a “virtuous circle” of consumption that betokens prosperity and “growth”?
If you are such a person – ie an economist of the conventional sort – then you call this Nobel-worthy brilliance. You heap accolades upon a Gary Becker, the economist at the University of Chicago who wrote a book analyzing interactions within a family in terms of this self-seeking model. (“Ten dollars tonight dear? Fifteen?”) If you are a member of the news media, then you quote such lights as oracles of great authority.
Others might suspect something short of a full psycho-emotional deck. To meet many in the profession is to be encouraged in this suspicion. They tend to be facile minds who are better at regression analysis than at grasping the ambiguities of the human heart. Now comes evidence from an unlikely quarter — the emerging field of “neuro-economics,” which seeks to understand behavior in market settings through study of the neural apparatus. The desire to reduce human behavior to neural blips is revealing of the profession in and of itself; and the reduction has turned on the reducers in an even more revealing way.
According to a study published last month in the journal Psychological Science, “people with certain kinds of brain damage may make better investment decisions,” as the Wall Street Journal put it. “By linking brain science to investment behavior,” the Journal continued, “researchers concluded that people with impaired ability to experience emotions could actually make better financial decisions than other people under certain circumstances.”

link

Posted by: jj | Aug 8 2005 4:52 utc | 37

I hoped that one of those goddamned MSM Broadcasters who went over for Invasion to provide propaganda on how cool America’s high tech military was would get felled by DU – as much to expose it as anything. I’m sad it was Peter Jennings, who seemed the one sensitive one of the lot. Now that he’s gone, will anyone breathe DU??

Posted by: jj | Aug 8 2005 5:01 utc | 38

According to a study published last month in the journal Psychological Science, “people with certain kinds of brain damage may make better investment decisions,” as the Wall Street Journal put it. “By linking brain science to investment behavior,” the Journal continued, “researchers concluded that people with impaired ability to experience emotions could actually make better financial decisions than other people under certain circumstances.”
That just about says it all does it not?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 8 2005 5:02 utc | 39

jj,
To be fair, though, Lawrence Stigler did identify the logic of industry capture and warn of the dangers of foundation-funded scholarship — in addition to giving us Gary Becker, among others.

Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Aug 8 2005 5:09 utc | 40

fauxreal–
Re: response to Sat Night Massacre I….
….there was a whole lot of public outrage that helped get the ball rolling, I think.

Posted by: RossK | Aug 8 2005 5:12 utc | 41

b real–
Isikoff story is up.
“Associate Attorney General Robert McCallum is “likely” to be named as acting deputy A.G., a DOJ official who asked not to be identified because of the sensitivity of the matter tells NEWSWEEK. But McCallum may be seen as having his own conflicts: he is an old friend of President Bush’s and a member of his Skull and Bones class at Yale.”

Posted by: RossK | Aug 8 2005 5:16 utc | 42

@ faux real

What’s a “deely-bopper”?

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Aug 8 2005 12:13 utc | 43