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August 17, 2005
Open Thread 05-83
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Murdered for nothing: New claims emerge over Menezes death
It’s not like that the British Army have a previous record? Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 17 2005 7:30 utc | 2 Don’t forget Lyle Lovett. As far as I’m concerned, he’s the only reason not to plow the state under. Posted by: Peter | Aug 17 2005 7:56 utc | 3 Some 1,100 violent death in Baghdad each month, some 50 today. Lynn Bradach, whose son, Marine Cpl. Travis J. Bradach-Nall, 21, of Portland, died in July 2003 while clearing a Karbala minefield :
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Aug 17 2005 10:23 utc | 5
Posted by: John Francis Lee | Aug 17 2005 10:28 utc | 6 Not to rain on Cindy’s parade, but on average, in the United States, a pedestrian is killed in a traffic hit-and-run every 111 minutes. Approximately every 7 minutes, a pedestrian is injured by a vehicle. (NHTSA). On Halloween, that injury number jumps fourfold, among our Posted by: Jack Travers | Aug 17 2005 15:09 utc | 7 Back to Treasongate, this argues that Fitzgerald cannot be removed from his Special Counsel responsibilities in October as some in the media have reported. Fitzgerald is the US Attorney for the Northern District of Illinois; that appointment expires in October. However, he is also Special Counsel – a different position – and that does not expire and is not dependent on his status as US District Attorney. Accoding to the article, James Comey, who appointed Fitzgerald, set up the appointment so Fitz could neither be removed nor be subject to DOJ oversight. Technically, Fitz is not an “independent” but a “special” counsel with indefinite funding by GAO under the law that provided funding for independent counsels. When the law covering independent counsels expired in 1999, funding was still permitted for ongoing independent counsel investigations and for investigations established under other law, as Fitz’s was. Thus:
So, even if Fitz is not reappointed as US Attorney General, he continues as Special Counsel. Comey may be leaving, but the author – one Citizen Spook – says he is the one to thank for the appointment’s structure that protects Fitz:
[Italics are mine.] Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 17 2005 15:34 utc | 8 @lonesomeG – that´s good news, thanks
“Library Missing Roberts File” Posted by: Terry Boxer | Aug 17 2005 18:34 utc | 11
Posted by: Uncle $camed | Aug 17 2005 19:06 utc | 12 Ari Fleischer, where are you now that DoD needs a smooth talker? Posted by: Frank Densman | Aug 17 2005 19:49 utc | 13 Robert Fisk has an article out where he manages to get the numbers of bodies handled by the Bagdhad morgue. Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 17 2005 22:31 utc | 14 I agree with this Debs. Posted by: jm | Aug 17 2005 23:41 utc | 15 Gentle reader, do you realize the danger of having a president so disconnected from reality that he plots to attack Iran–a country three times the size of Iraq–when he lacks sufficient forces to occupy Baghdad and to protect the road from Baghdad to the airport? Posted by: remembereringgiap | Aug 18 2005 1:42 utc | 16 This is from today’s Daily Kos and pretty amazing. Felt I had to re-post it here. These are all quotes regarding President Clinton’s commitment of troops to Bosnia (where not one American life was lost, if memory serves correctly?): Posted by: McGee | Aug 18 2005 2:14 utc | 17 jm Posted by: theodor | Aug 18 2005 3:22 utc | 18 Thanks for posting P.C. Roberts excerpt R’Giap. I was going to, but figured everyone read him now. It speaks volumes that the Jackass Party is now soo far right, has more significant things to say than they do. It’s like living in an insane asylum. Then some party fuctionary writes some red-baiting crap & it’s posted as a thread… So, I really appreciated coming over here, to see the old crew w/their usual grasp of reality!! (Even if Kate & DeA aren’t around at the moment.) Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2005 3:37 utc | 19 U.S. diplomat in Baghdad is named in AIPAC spying case Posted by: Nugget | Aug 18 2005 5:06 utc | 20 theodor…..15 of the last 25 years, iraq has been controlled mainly by the US. during the other 10 years, the US supported the iraqi regime. Posted by: lenin’s ghost | Aug 18 2005 6:21 utc | 21 Jerome warned us that China was explosive…These are the first figures I’ve seen. Some 74,000 protests and riots broke out nationwide last year, up from just 10,000 in 1994″ Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2005 6:27 utc | 22 Check out what the Brits are up to…far more advanced than we are…not to mention that their concept of Reality TV actually explores possible future realities that could bear upon everyone’s lives: Posted by: jj | Aug 18 2005 6:42 utc | 23 DARPA confab under-reported — but blogged Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2005 6:48 utc | 24 So, lonesomeG, X174, uncle $cam, rapt. Posted by: jonku | Aug 18 2005 8:31 utc | 25 Now I’m sounding like Alabama. Posted by: jonku | Aug 18 2005 9:39 utc | 26 I just love this man: 23 Questions with Robert Anton Wilson Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 18 2005 11:04 utc | 27 That is a good read Uncle – the site is another source for non-linear reflection. Posted by: rapt | Aug 18 2005 15:11 utc | 28 The WTC buildings were built to withstand a plane crashing in, as are all skyscrapers. A plane weighs absolutely nothing as compared to huge buildings like that. Posted by: Noisette | Aug 18 2005 15:44 utc | 29 Jonku:
Morgan Reynolds summarizes his problems with the official explanation in this article. (There are plenty of others sources to go to.)
And this:
There are many sites with technical analysis questioning the official reasons for the towers’ collapse, but this summarizes them fairly well. There are plenty of reasons to think “maybe” in Reynold’s summary. He lays out his case in a way that would be easy to debunk, but I haven’t seen an article pick his analysis apart yet. (“Maybe” I’ve missed it so far.) Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 18 2005 18:00 utc | 30 to add a little more fuel to the fire, a 32? story hotel somewhere in Spain recently burned outta control for at least 24? hours. it did, finally, partially collapse, but not pancake like the WTC. it collapsed as one would expect – unevenly. Posted by: gmac | Aug 18 2005 18:44 utc | 31 To finish the response to Jonku, the weight of the planes had no bearing in the official explanation of the collapse of WTC-1 and WTC-2. The WTC-7 collapse was officially caused by an “out of control fire” caused by debris falling from WTC-1 and WTC-2. Regarding WTC-7:
To believe the WTC-1 and 2 collapse stories, you also have to believe the WTC-7 story. I find this impossible. Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 18 2005 19:11 utc | 32 Thanks for the responses to my question. Posted by: jonku | Aug 18 2005 19:57 utc | 33 Sorry folks, I don´t understand this discussion about why the WTC collapsed. I forgot to mention that highriser in Spain was said to be of similar construction. Sorry. Must do quickly at work. Posted by: gmac | Aug 18 2005 21:52 utc | 35 “Maybe Bush needs a cocktail. Looks like the baby Jesus isn’t doing it for him.” Posted by: Debs is dead | Aug 19 2005 0:29 utc | 37 This is a kick in the groin.
Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 19 2005 1:17 utc | 38 Does this have anthing to do w/ this? Just wondering outloud… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 19 2005 6:21 utc | 39 Sorry Bernhard. Posted by: jonku | Aug 19 2005 9:05 utc | 40
Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 19 2005 15:44 utc | 41 I found this paragraph funny: Posted by: biklett | Aug 19 2005 19:20 utc | 44 |
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