Given how much untraceable cash has disappeared down the Iraqi drain, anyone care to place any bets on what sewer pipe "funds that were not necessarily appropriated by Congress" might have been siphoned from?
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July 18, 2005
WB: When Scandals Collide
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I think the answer to the question posed at the beginning is simple: the only group that has credibility on wasteful spending, so far as the media is concerned, are the Republicans. The media was concened about Democratic administrations paying for $200 haircuts and $300 toilet seats. If Republicans do the same and worse (much, much worse), the only people complaining are those nasty partisan Democrats, and the media just ignores the story. Posted by: Dustin | Jul 18 2005 7:22 utc | 1 Any real criticism and investigation of these guys can’t happen until their approval rating dips down to the low 30’s. At the moment, questioning the motives of these fucks is like questioning Jesus to these wingnuts. Posted by: steve expat | Jul 18 2005 7:37 utc | 2 I believe I recently read a report that two or three (I cannot recall how many) former employees (probably disgruntled) had filed Qui Tam cases against the companies they had worked. These companies are involved in the `reconstruction’ effort over there. The former employees were exposing the massive fraud of these companies. Perhaps one of these cases may provide the spark to outing the story. We can only hope. Posted by: Dismayed | Jul 18 2005 8:29 utc | 3 There is potentially one remedy to all of this and that my friends is the judiciary. Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jul 18 2005 8:49 utc | 4 The Hersh piece is now public: GET OUT THE VOTE
b: Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jul 18 2005 9:03 utc | 6 After reading the article, I guess it should be unsurprising that wherever Negraponte is, democracy is being subverted. Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jul 18 2005 9:07 utc | 7 Another thought I have re: Hersh is that I really believe right now that one of the significant reasons for chaos in Iraq is that the US Govt is intentionally allowing it to happen. Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jul 18 2005 9:15 utc | 8 Much money also has gone missing in the New Iraqi Army, in all kinds of scams reminiscent of Boss Tweed. Posted by: Groucho | Jul 18 2005 11:35 utc | 9 Bubb Rubb, A provocative line of thought.
Certainly, it would be impolitic to record funding for special police activities according to generally accepted accounting principles. and thus leave an easy trail. Black financing for black ops. Posted by: small coke | Jul 18 2005 11:47 utc | 10 Chaos is exactly what they wanted to happen. And civil war. Remember that unguarded cache of weapons? I always thought that was intentional so the Iraqis could help themselves. That’s ridiculous They knew they were there. Posted by: jm | Jul 18 2005 12:15 utc | 11 A LINK TO IRAQI MILITARY MONEY PROBLEMS AND CORRUPTION Posted by: Groucho | Jul 18 2005 12:40 utc | 12
Posted by: small coke | Jul 18 2005 13:13 utc | 13 Josh Marshall, in late 2003 or 2004, published a piece in The Washington Monthly speculating on the possibility that a failed state was just fine with the neoconservatives like Wolfowitze, Feith, and the rest. Perhaps not so awfully failed, but a state that can maintain a seed of civility, export the mineral resources, and demand the continued intervention and presence of the United States. Given that Iraq wasn’t likely to turn into Switzerland, the possibility that a functioning New Iraq would be best buddies with Israel and stand against Iran as firmly as did Saddam was pretty low, too. Posted by: Brian C.B. | Jul 18 2005 13:35 utc | 14 The Iraq funding would provide a per capita of $30,000 per year for Iraq. Posted by: ! | Jul 18 2005 13:57 utc | 15 “Perhaps not so awfully failed, but a state that can maintain a seed of civility, export the mineral resources, and demand the continued intervention and presence of the United States.” Posted by: ! | Jul 18 2005 13:58 utc | 16
I think I remember that article. I think to the neocons, the failure to plan for the post-war was probably a win-win strategy. If they “treated us like liberators” and there war an orderly transfer of power to our designated prefect, then good. If there was destabilization, then good too. They probably had a wager on it, like perhaps an autographed first edition copy of Fukiyama’s “End of History” or something like that. Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jul 18 2005 14:21 utc | 17 I think the answer to the question posed at the beginning is simple: the only group that has credibility on wasteful spending, so far as the media is concerned, are the Republicans. The media was concened about Democratic administrations paying for $200 haircuts and $300 toilet seats. If Republicans do the same and worse (much, much worse), the only people complaining are those nasty partisan Democrats, and the media just ignores the story. Posted by: spencer | Jul 18 2005 14:24 utc | 18 @! Stoffel was most probably CIA It might work better if the huge sums were divided across the US population, or number of taxpayers, etc, to create a per captia cost of this orgy of corruption and waste. People can relate to that. There are too many layers to it. Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 18 2005 14:50 utc | 20 Don’t you see? Americans LOVE thieves! Jesse James, John Dillinger and Al Capone all have a romanticism and envy attached to them. Americans are thrilled with the knowledge that they too can get wealthy without any of the education, hard work, morals and ethics required to achieve it. Even though it is their very own money being wasted it doesn’t matter, just as it didn’t matter it was their banks being robbed by Dillinger. Secondly, it is friends of Republicans getting rich. Roughly half the populace now has a cultivated, encouraged and managed hatred of Democrats (I’m a uniter, not a divider—-HA!). Most on the right figure the funds are better in the hands of those beholden to Bush. Better still at least a small percentage of that money makes it back to the RNC through contributions, and all the better arriving there than the clutches of Hillary, the ACLU, Greenpeace and all the godless Jews, faggots and darkies. Another magical convergence making the theft acceptable is it is committed in the midst of a war on a people of different religions, color, race, language and culture. Americans love killing foreigners, especially if they’re not white and Christian. If a few people make a little, or a lot, on the side what the hell. In Republican-speak it’s called “The Cost Of Doing Business”. Posted by: steve duncan | Jul 18 2005 15:08 utc | 21 annie, of course not ALL of us. Just enough of us to give Bush carte blanche for what he’s doing in Iraq and Afghanistan. There are also enough of us desirous of attaching electrodes to Muslim testicles to give Bush a free pass on torture. How else to explain nobody above the level of sergeant is rotting away in jail for doing just that or worse. Hell, we can kill prisoners with impunity if we’re seated at a desk or work at a Cabinet level job. Posted by: steve duncan | Jul 18 2005 16:31 utc | 23 Mighty High-Priced Dogs of War in the U.S. Kennel: Posted by: Groucho | Jul 18 2005 18:19 utc | 24 See Saddam has been charged with taking revenge on a village for an assassination attempt. Our taking revenge on Faluga for the killing of four contractors was completely different. Posted by: ken melvin | Jul 18 2005 18:26 utc | 25 For awhile I was willing to believe Marshalls theory, and to a certain extent I still do, but only as it (perpetual war) is preferable to outright loosing the whole thing. Its pretty pathetic to gather, judged by the factual actions and results the US has demonstrated on the ground in Iraq — that the maddness we see is a deliberate construction in favor of all other outcomes. Posted by: anna missed | Jul 18 2005 22:02 utc | 26 IIRC, one of the things that came out in watergate was that CRP was collecting kickbacks on US foreign aid: S. Korea springs to mind but I am pretty sure there were other victims/contributors as well. Whatcha think the chances of that sort of thing happening this time around? Nah: I can’t imagine Karl or Grover stooping to that, can you. Well, so much for that thought. Posted by: paul | Jul 19 2005 10:39 utc | 27 |
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