News, views, opinions …
|
|
|
|
Back to Main
|
||
|
July 12, 2005
Non-Plame Thread
News, views, opinions …
Comments
I’ll buy a drink for anyone who can cite an example of a major news organization, in reporting of the ten year anniversary, that the killers of Srebrenica were Christian. Posted by: biklett | Jul 12 2005 6:42 utc | 1 Standing shoulder-to-shoulder with the allies
GW Bush – 2005-07-11
Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 12 2005 7:09 utc | 2 @biklett Posted by: citizen | Jul 12 2005 7:44 utc | 3 Air Force Academy Watch
Rice, in Southeast Asia, Draws Fire for Plan to Avoid Forum
So Rice needs to be Washington at the end of the month so urgently, that she doesn´t mind screwing relations with Asia. Why? What is planed for that time? Driftwood – Posted by: correlator | Jul 12 2005 8:51 utc | 6 I’m generalising wildly here, and none of this should be taken to apply to specific people, but my take on it is that, as a rule, America has, and have never had, any fucking clue about how to respond to terrorism. They are perfect targets for terrorism. Outside of war, they scare easily as a nation. They act scared when they should shut-up and get on with it. Dismal Science said here recently that he(?) was scared shitless of getting back on a train, on a bus. He did it anyway. That’s bravery: being scared and doing what you have to anyway. Recommending that US troops stay on their bases? Craven surrender to terrorism. From the same fuckwits who complained that the new Spanish government carried out their election promises and withdrew from Iraq. Correlator: Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 12 2005 10:19 utc | 8 What, afraid that some old granny on a bus is going to beat them with a handbag? That some Londoners might use harsh language at them? The primary mission of the U.S. military is force protection. And that makes them useless for anything but wasting money. Can RGiap or some other habitué better informed than I For the sane readers of this site, I beg indulgence for my well-advanced case of paranoia and inability to resist the temptation to jump to conclusions. Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jul 12 2005 10:58 utc | 11 Tensions are running pretty high at the moment. Photos of US servicemen in a bar-room brawl are easy to imagine and would be difficult to explain. Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Jul 12 2005 11:01 utc | 12 Hannah, Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 12 2005 11:38 utc | 13 Colman, Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 12 2005 11:47 utc | 14 @ Driftwood Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jul 12 2005 11:47 utc | 15 Hannah, Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 12 2005 11:49 utc | 16 Makes me think of the much forgotten Battle of Brisbane… Posted by: OzBoy | Jul 12 2005 13:29 utc | 17 It seems that Noel Neff, an editor from Weekly Reader, got picked up Saturday for attempting to solicit a child for sex. Tough break. Posted by: mojo | Jul 12 2005 14:59 utc | 19 Good God. Brisbane was the same shithole in 1942 as it is now. Posted by: DM | Jul 12 2005 15:53 utc | 20 @citizen, Posted by: biklett | Jul 12 2005 16:09 utc | 21 Not to change the subject, but I’ve been pondering something the last couple of days RE: the Plame/Rove situation. Posted by: chaelman | Jul 12 2005 16:30 utc | 22 crap – I just realized I placed this on the “non-plame” thread. Posted by: chaelman | Jul 12 2005 16:30 utc | 23 on srebrenica, znet had a scathing edward herman paper up last week, from a forthcoming book on the “massacre”, The Politics of the Srebrenica Massacre Posted by: b real | Jul 12 2005 16:31 utc | 24 Colman – Posted by: correlator | Jul 12 2005 16:40 utc | 25 The idea that the London bombs were the work of British Right Wing extremists is beginning to surface…see for ex. Xymphora who quotes Madsen: Posted by: Noisette | Jul 12 2005 17:05 utc | 26 Huh? Noisette, I haven’t seen pictures, but neither Philip Stuart Russell, 28, of Kennington, south London, and Jamie Gordon, 30 sound anything other than white English. Explosive used in bombs ‘was of military origin’
Posted by: b real | Jul 12 2005 17:44 utc | 28 B, you’re dead bang on about the Air Force, and Air Force Academy especially, Christian fundamentalism. Of course … they fly high! Posted by: tante aime | Jul 12 2005 17:46 utc | 29 Coleman, correlator, Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Jul 12 2005 19:20 utc | 30 Noisette: Photos. In any case, if someone wants to be discriminating in their killing, bombing public transport is not the way to go about it. One reasoned view is that the bombers’ main target was actually not people, but infrastructure. That would point back to someone who has a political objective that would be forwarded by making the British public more war-weary than they are already. The “mainstream” IRA have customarily issued warnings before their bombings, and I believe that a cease-fire has been holding for eight years now… It’s not relevant to the question of who actually did this, but immediately after the attacks, a former chief constable offered up his opinion that this was a homegrown attack. His statement came so early that it could only have been raw speculation, but it would be to the government’s advantage if it were so. If the public were to conclude that the attacks were a result of Britain’s “firm support” for US policy in Iraq, then it would be a short step to political accountability. Posted by: Jassalasca Jape | Jul 12 2005 19:57 utc | 31 meanwhile, while everyone watches the Plame/Rove birdie, total deregulation of the US power grid is contemplated: the repeal of PUHCA. “One of the strangest things about the PUHCA repeal story is how completely it has been blacked out of the mainstream media. Until recently, the only stories to be found on the issue were in the business press.” well doh. if customers knew what this portended they would be writing and calling their congresscritters. Posted by: DeAnander | Jul 13 2005 0:12 utc | 32 we ought to have a word, as concise as “Luddite” Posted by: slothrop | Jul 13 2005 0:21 utc | 33 I’m watching NewsHour and Jim “no moaners here” Lehrer is interviewing a retiring Gen. Myers about Iraq. Waiting for torture question…waiting…waiting… Posted by: slothrop | Jul 13 2005 0:24 utc | 34 …and ol Gen. Myers won’t just come out & say what must be on his mind: “when are you people gonna get it through your fucking heads you can’t trust civilian leadership of the military?” Posted by: slothrop | Jul 13 2005 0:33 utc | 35 Glad you posted that DeA. This has got to go down in flames. But, sadly this can’t be laid at Bu$hCo’s feet. As the truthout art. you linked states: Posted by: jj | Jul 13 2005 0:40 utc | 36 I just had the most chilling dream. I often fall asleep reading, bad habit I know. Anyway, I was reading Evgenia Ginzburg’s, INTO THE WHIRLWIND, for my mod lit class on Gulags and Stalinist culture, which could explain much. However, I fell asleep and was jolted awake by hearing the KENNEDY SPACE CENTER Transmissions to fighter jets saying that the Discovery was sabotaged by a terrorist attack. It was freaky and felt real as dreams sometimes do. I woke up to jump on the internet, having no idea that tomorrow was a launch date. It’s still creeping me out. I know, I know, they make meds for this kinda thing… Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 13 2005 4:07 utc | 37 REALLY! VWHAT THE FUCK IS WRONG W/THESE PEOPLE! Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 13 2005 4:39 utc | 38 the question is wtf is wrong w/ us? why do we let them get away w/ this shit? barkeep! still got any ayahuasca back there? Posted by: b real | Jul 13 2005 4:51 utc | 39 Uncle $cam thanks for the great news. If it’s featured prominently in NYC/Wash press tomorrow It’ll hook up another engine to the Impeachment Express. Do you have the correction for the link you mis-posted the other night on them trying to bury LBJ archives? Posted by: jj | Jul 13 2005 5:38 utc | 40 @jj Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 13 2005 6:01 utc | 41 Colman: Posted by: Driftwood | Jul 13 2005 6:31 utc | 42 Reprimand of Guantanamo Chief Urged, Nixed
Thanks Uncle. Posted by: jj | Jul 13 2005 6:53 utc | 44 @ Driftwood Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jul 13 2005 7:18 utc | 45 Bolton Watch:
wonder if that has anything to do w/bolton stovepiping cheney disinfo@nigerwmd=wilsonxfitzgerald.friggincom Posted by: annie | Jul 13 2005 7:43 utc | 47
A very good article in WaPo about the US-China conflict about energy.
The last quote sounds like Cheney is the source. Torture professor Yoo comes up with this great tool:
Did he loose that specific memo or is he preparing the public for some coming scandal? Maybe worth a thread b Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 13 2005 20:22 utc | 53 Move along now, nothing to see here: Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 13 2005 20:28 utc | 54 “cleanskins”? Posted by: citizen | Jul 13 2005 21:01 utc | 55 And no I am not attacking the police for having their own internal vocabulary. I am noting that the aristocrat-owned press is painting targets on all of us who do not own our own papers. Posted by: citizen | Jul 13 2005 21:10 utc | 56 Citizen, Daz does make my whites a blue white! Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 13 2005 21:12 utc | 57 @Cloned Poster Posted by: John | Jul 13 2005 23:53 utc | 58 The Home Secretary last year was David Blunkett. Blunkett lost a lot of support when he bad-mouthed his colleagues. He was caught “fixing” something for a pal and had to resign. He was allowed to stay on in his luxurious accomodation. He was paid 18000 pounds for loss of position. He is now back in the Cabinet. Posted by: John | Jul 13 2005 23:59 utc | 59
Posted by: Outraged | Jul 14 2005 0:05 utc | 60 Fox News are beneath contempt – The Guardian
Posted by: DM | Jul 14 2005 2:04 utc | 61 Oil Wars: The Balkans Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jul 14 2005 4:28 utc | 62 |
||