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June 2, 2005
Non.

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No votes deepen European Union divisions

Divisions over the fate of the European constitution deepened on Thursday as Germany and Britain embarked on opposing diplomatic initiatives amid revelations that senior European commissioners have been privately pushing for the treaty to be suspended.

Gerhard Schröder, German chancellor, on Thursday launched a round of diplomacy aimed at keeping ratification of the constitution going in spite of referendum defeats in France and The Netherlands. But Tony Blair, UK prime minister, has begun a rival push to put the processon hold.

It’s only going to get worse.

The French broke the taboo, and everybody is going to jump in the breach. Nationalism is okay again.
France has the fucking stupidest "right" AND the fucking stupidest "left". i am at loss for words in front of this gâchis.

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with new chiraquian govt – is he committing suicide in public – with very rare exceptions & they ar francis bayrou – no one listend to what was said on dimanche. i have not heard from danny cohn bendit this week – has he sd anything publically – participating in my own melancholic oratorio – i have not been keen to hear other songs darker than my own
i’ve read much – & i wish i could believe that the non was a non of the left not the non of vichy – the non in holland has very substantial racist overtones
all i know that the history of our left has been the history of missed opportunities
i want to believe in a cohesive & combatative left but what i see are the blairite technocrats of all cultures – dumb as all fuck – destroying the poor in the language of labor whom they detest
i yearn for a blum or a bevan leaders i might have little in common with but who were substantial not these caricatures of caricatures
the now are the hollow men x 10,000 things as the buddha sd

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 2 2005 23:07 utc | 1

I agree the left in UK, France and elsewhere do not exist except for at the sub-Trotskyist margins such as SWP who are sectlets who scream and rave like madmen and women. But Europe is becoming politicized again and this has to be good. Opportunities present themselves and people can start to think about how their lives are structured and who does the structuring for them. Jérôme says ‘Nationalism is okay again’. And I think a form of it is. It to cut neoliberal globalisation down needs new forms of nationalism that protect the local in the context of a still-growing global. This is not a virulent nationalism I am talking about; but a localism that has nothing to do with race, creed, colour, immigration. It would be about protecting and developing what people have at local and regional levels, linking step-wise up to democratic forms of globalisation. Control is key. Over the forms of forms and means of production and the technological development that drive them. USA is already dismantling its neoliberal structures–neocon ideology recognises that ‘open markets’ and ‘free-trade’ it bad for the domination game. David Harvey’s book The New Imperialism is good reading to get a feeling what the future might be like–and it’s China. Europe is becoming increasingly irrelevant, so a reorganised Europe around social democratic and social-nationalist lines (I use that term with extreme caution) could act as a pole of attraction, an alternative way of organizing from the USA-China strategic confrontation that is certain to come.

Posted by: theodor | Jun 2 2005 23:37 utc | 2

theodor
i feel ‘communities of resistance’ are possible & have positd so here before because in the work i do here i can see the living reality of that
at the same time i can see that community is the organism which is most under attack – with great deliberation by the right & with machiavellian skill by the social democratic left
the non was a perfect opportunity in france for example for the left to really speak to that 15% that votes for le pen or bruno megret & they did not. not once
what is clear. in fact. very clear, is the hatred of elites. & it has a very 1936 feeling to it. fronte populaire. but in fact no socialist politician has spoken to that hatred because they are in part elements of that elite. coming from the same political sites; polytechniques, ens, ena etc. some of the vox populi of dimanche & lundi was really frightening in its intensity of hatred for the elites – but a hatred that could easily be used by the extreme right
tho i think le pen is ill – quite ill – because lately the energy he uses is markedly degraded & he has corrupted his own appareil so much that i hope we can look forward to schism after schism after schism
what is one of the little ironies here is those who research the politique of the pire are often those with well paid work like the comtessa arlette larguillier & the petit prince bescancon. they are not in the middle of the great poverty that is so much a partt of any european nation
but at least here – precisely because of the front populaire – there is a margin of protection for the poorest that simply does not exist in the anglosaxon world – there they simply fall of the map – completely
the british lost their chance some where in 1926 when they could not follow thru with the general strike & because their poulation has always wanted to suck at the teat of beaverbrook, of loyd george, of margaret thatcher, of that sprious piece of sordid spermatazoid we shall call tony blair for all the good it will do
& what is also clear for me is that intellectuals have for the most part – even when ‘left’ been absorbed into the elites & have become class traitors & i use that term advisedly. they rob the poor of their energy, passion & initiative & turn it into shit in their parliamentary forums
the poor merit a leadership at the hauter of their desires & energies

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 3 2005 0:38 utc | 3

The appalling lack of character that politicians of all hues are displaying around the world tells us we must find a way through this that leaves them on the margin.
The current ‘arguments’ over Europe and whether this is a crisis or a storm in a teacup is a classic example of the political class at their most manipulative.
They will downplay the black eye they have copped and try and punish the electorate either economically or by pushing through a raft of right wing legislation.
The one thing that they won’t do is acknowledge that the no is more about people’s dissatisfaction with them than their dissatisfaction with other Europeans.
That is why these little contretemps they appear to be having between themselves are best ignored and media that persist in beating these stories up need to be told by the people that they are missing the boat. Time to use some jujitsu ie the power against themselves. If as they claim a recession only occurs when people believe one is going to occur then people need to shout from the rooftops “We don’t believe this result will have the least bit of effect on the long term value of the Euro. The fundamentals remain unchanged. We believe you are just trying to scare us into submission.”

Posted by: Debs is dead | Jun 3 2005 1:21 utc | 4

The anti liberalism that creeps up in these posts disturbs me. Economic freedom is part of the solution for poor people especially through job creation. Without new business formation at the community level you are never going to generate the revenues to achieve the “project sociale”.
There is also a profound misunderstanding about “anglo saxon” countries and their political economy. It has become a useful strawman to millitate against. You can not lump Australia, New Zeland, the UK, Canada and Ireland along with the USA into one socio political group/ ideology. A convenient boogeymen to bring up when faced with change.
The American Right has corrupted the idea of capitalism in order to actively premote inequality and priviledge. But the Left would be naif if we decided that this justifies eliminating the market mechanism as the foundation of social organization in our countries.
Electorates are not Godheads. They make good choices. They make bad choices. And sometimes they behave like angry drunks who want to hit someone. This NON was a howl of self destructive reaction that will harm everyone. Better luck next time.

Posted by: Scott McArthur | Jun 3 2005 1:43 utc | 5

R’Giap,
The hatred of the elites for the rest of us is palpable, here in Australia it is only interrupted near election-time when the get down into the shit and pander to the worst tendencies of divide and rule. ‘Bring it on’ to use the cliché they use in another context to patronise us. And they do. They pile on ever-more unequal and unfair legislation with which to cow people through poverty and marginalisation. The Non vote is an easy reaction to their arrogance. The more they ‘bring it on’ the more the easy crossing of a ballot paper become a futile gesture and other means are then canvassed in the mind of people. Demonstrations can be safely ignored in the west. Does this mean people need to or will resort to more direct action? There is not presently the organisation for anything other than violence and disorders that would be crushable. Do people then move it up a gear, or do the elites see the writing on the wall and be less overtly detesting in their attitude to the mass of society? The political organisations of a century ago were borne through violence and upheaval and it’s probably the only way that they can come into being. Electorates are not godheads, Scott McArthur–but neither can they make mistakes. They make choices that are neither right nor wrong; they instead involve themselves in politics, in struggles for what individuals believe in. Once enough of us believe in enough of the same thing then choices can become reality.

Posted by: Theodor | Jun 3 2005 2:33 utc | 6

“Bush youth?”
A CIA scheme to sponsor trainee spies secretly through US university courses has caused anger among UK academics.
The Pat Roberts Intelligence Scholars Program pays anthropology students, whose names are not disclosed, up to $50,000 (£27,500) a year.
They are expected to use the techniques of “fieldwork” to gather political and cultural details on other countries.
Britain’s Association of Social Anthropologists called the scholarships ethically “dangerous” and divisive.

Undergraduates taking part in the scholarship programme must not reveal their funding source and are expected to attend military intelligence summer camps.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 3 2005 3:09 utc | 7

The three most destructive inventions of human beings are nationalism, religion and football. Not necessarily in that order.

Posted by: SW | Jun 3 2005 3:16 utc | 8

While it’s certainly true that the free market approach to the economy can’t be attributed to any particular race or culture, in fact one could argue that the only reason some alleged anglo saxon countries arrived at this remedy first is that they also embraced socialist ideals first and therefore the reaction to that occurred there first, I don’t share any faith in free markets being the nostrum for current ills.
The country I am living in at the moment was early to adopt socialist models to health, education and welfare and when stagflation bit in the ’70s was also one of the first to adopt privatisation and de-regulatory ‘free market’ models in the 80s.
We now have unemployment at an historical low. The alleged ‘centre-left’ government is at pains to ensure that it doesn’t spend more than it earns and keeps itself out of most markets.
But violent crime is rising as is homelessness , infant mortatlity and illiteracy. People have much more personal freedom than they had in the ’60’s yet youth suicides have increased dramatically. I am reluctant to say any model is superior to another, it appears to me that both are too imperfect to be regarded as the answer.
Another model is required but I dunno what that is and worse how can we implement it without subjecting ourselves to more of the same from the politicos?

Posted by: Debs is dead | Jun 3 2005 3:38 utc | 9

@ Jérôme

“France has the fucking stupidest “right” AND the fucking stupidest “left”. I am at loss for words in front of this gâchis.”

You sound like an American!
Naturally you also sound even more like an American if you replace “France” by “The U.S.”. The nationalism was always there,
and it’s probably a good thing to get it into
the open. Much as I deplore psych-talk, it seems to be a “return of the repressed”. The European project will continue, and the European model as an alternative to Bushian
America will continue to be a pole of attraction for people from Kinshasa to Tehran. Who knows, perhaps in 5 or 10 years France will vote yes on an essentially identical or better constitution.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 3 2005 6:29 utc | 10

I agree that the politicizing of Europe’s populations is a good thing, and this constitutional plan was sold badly indeed. While the process may stall (and thus possibly delay European development for about 5-10 years), there will be more public talk, more info and a better media discussion/campaign next time. Even the makers and shakers in the top echelons must take notice of their populations’ mistrust. There is no need for a completely new system imo – just for substantial improvements of the old one. And, as Brecht said, people make revolutions when their stomachs are empty, not because of rousing political speeches.

Posted by: teuton | Jun 3 2005 6:42 utc | 11

Economic freedom is part of the solution for poor people especially through job creation.
I guess this translates into German as “Arbeit macht frei” (Work sets you free) ?
The problem is that – in Germany – two decades of liberalizing reforms under Kohl and Schröder have not resulted in job creation. Could it be that as an economic doctrine free-market dogmatism is as far off the mark as centralised state planning was ?

Posted by: khr | Jun 3 2005 6:59 utc | 12

The three most destructive inventions of human beings are nationalism, religion and football. Not necessarily in that order.
Posted by: SW | June 2, 2005 11:16 PM | #

SW, you have perhaps made an unwitting point that I have mentioned to some friends. The fact is, timing is bad. The World Cup in Germany is next summer and many countries, particularly France, are highly concerned about qualification. There is nothing worse for nationalism than Football.
However, in the aftermath of football, there is generally fingerpointing, managers being fired and then reluctantly reconciliation and goodwill as nations admit to themselves that the team that won the cup was actually better than we were (this is not true in the case of England and the “hand of god”, but I digress).
The fact is, perhaps the perfect timing for such a vote on a constitution would have been immediatly following last summers EURO2004 in Portugal. Greece won and although the French played bad and the English again had something to complain about, the tournament was a success on the whole and most people left recognizing Greece’s achievement and feeling happy for them (they played a well organized and under-manned team football that beat the galacticoization of what has become international football matches.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 3 2005 7:48 utc | 13

O.K., now that I have dispensed with the football theory, I will say what has not really been said in so many words. There was a fundamental “mission” problem with this document/constitution that betrayed a lack of forsight on behalf of its backers and the French sniffed right through it.
What do I mean? Well, first of all, although it is called a “constitution”, it is actually a treaty. And as a treaty, it was written in the traditional manner that treaties have always been written, the elite technocrats all get together and hash it out. However, in order to lend popular legitimacy to this entirely undemocratic european project, they called it a constitution and asked for national approval of member countries. Some countries just approved of it in parlaiment, others recognized that it had to go to national vote. However how did they expect something to get approved nationally that was so dramatic that was created so undemocratically.
It was not like in the U.S. where there were the framers and everyone else was essentially illiterate. In Europe, the trade, union, environmental and other groups in were quite busy trying to ensure that this document protected essential rights and freedoms.
However, it in the end was a rush job to prevent scrutiny. The simple matter of its size reflects its lack of a coherent founding ideology and many of the vague provisions that people were familiar with caused much consternation in terms of the recent direction of the commission, particularly on the recent services directive spat that has everyone nervous.
So in simply language, the issue is, the document itself was confused, the leaders who created it were confused, there was no founding vision espoused in it that was coherent and the whole process was undemocratic until the very end. Furthermore, recent trends, such as the services directive and too fast movement towards expansion prior to adoption made people understandably nervous about the whole project.
And for the record, my soon-to-be wife is Italian and works for the European Commission. Not that it means anything.

Posted by: Bubb Rubb | Jun 3 2005 7:59 utc | 14

Now that this catastrophic NON has appeared (and it is entirely the left’s fault) the best would be if the NON grew and some new coherence or consensus could be attained.
I’m afraid I don’t see it.
What a mess.
Mitterand offered Kohl the re-unification of Germany against the abandonment of the Deutsch Mark. Why Kohl accepted has always been mysterious to me.
Then there was the new enlargement. Despite the EU triumphalism and all those sexy maps in the papers people did not really like it. (Specially, I guess, the Dutch, so small and insular..)
And the stupid EU technocrats and plutocrats never pointed out all the positive aspects of the EU.
The world has completely changed for a large majority of Europeans – and they all think that is simply natural, ‘normal’ progress, or that they ‘did it themselves’ (nationally.) What arrogant stupidity.
No, nationalism (in its weak form of regionalism and community without racism etc.) is not allright. It inevitably leads to disregard and fractionalisation, with richer regions seeking to cut themselves off from poorer ones. (See e.g. the Basques, the Northern Italians, etc.), as well as population movements from the periphery to the center, creating ‘cores’, and a sort of blue/red division like that existing in the States.
I should know, I live in Switzerland, and we struggle with this problem everyday. People here are tremendously proud of their regions (cantons) and their local specificity. Certainly the structure contributes to local well being, cohesion, friendliness. However the struggle is very costly (in political investment, regulations, the devilish job of attributing some power to the Federal Gvmt., etc.) and harms the economy, as well as creating terrible problems for individuals. The protection of minorities has to be so strong that inevitably these are stigmatised.
Well, more could be said. It is not that simple. I agree with Theodor in part.

Posted by: Noisette | Jun 3 2005 8:56 utc | 15

Quote:
Economic freedom is part of the solution for poor people especially through job creation
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Hah, that’s what I used to believe…naïve me…Now I can feel it right on my skin. Economic freedom looks now to me more like freedom for rich not to contribute to society through any God forbid tax and leave entire burden for a struggling middle class that is getting thinner and thinner. Then those “free” will use their friends/corrupted bureaucrats in government to get profitable contracts for their corporations and assure for themselves great profits. This money has been taken from people through conservative governments politic. It’s a freedom for them to CREATE shity jobs at $3-5 dollars per hour and to take all peoples rights away and put them in a hell of debs so that they have not any choice but to work shity jobs for 5 dollars/hour with no Medicare, no guaranteed minimum wage, no annual leave or sick leave redundancy payments long service payments etc. Those struggling to remain in the middle (no matter how tin this population is) are used to propagate this “freedom” believing that they are elite who will be allowed to get rich too. I am actually discussed with what has been done and do not count me as someone who will bite on “let them get richer and richer so they can create jobs”. It’s false statement.
Quote:
There is also a profound misunderstanding about “anglo saxon” countries and their political economy
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It certainly wasn’t case before but for last say 10 years (or that’s how long I am aware) my feeling is that all of them are getting American way (I am not sure about Canada tho but I have lived in NZ and Australia). Even Europe is heading American way and that’s why they rejected EU constitution as we see…
Quote:
This NON was a howl of self destructive reaction that will harm everyone.
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I don’t know…we’ll see what’s going to happen in a long run…

Posted by: vbo | Jun 3 2005 10:53 utc | 16

@Scott (9,43pm)
“You can not lump Australia, New Zeland, the UK, Canada and Ireland along with the USA into one socio political group/ ideology.”
You most certainly can lump them together. It is Scottish Rite Freemasonry in the service of Her Majesty. If you want to see the Dictator in action watch out on 10 July, when the G8 will sing her praises for having single handedly defeated Hitler.
1) This is NOT a constitution. It is a procedural device to cover-up past perfidy. And the people could smell the stink.
2) The dirty deed was done in London on 25 November 2003 when the Scottish Rite and the Grand Orient signed a new non-aggression pact. It was called the new Entente Cordialle.
3) “Hatred of Elites” = Hatred of Freemasons
And of course even though the Scottish Rite gang have a lockdown on the “Downing Street memo”, you can bet your life that the voters in France and The Netherlands were fully aware of the nature of the Anglo Saxons. And they knew they were being lied to (eg NATO)
All things considered I think they made a good job of protecting their own interests.
R’Giap The British lost their chance in 1978 when they failed to push through independence for Scotland

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 11:58 utc | 17

Bartender? I think John’s had enough to drink. No more absinthe for him, OK?

Posted by: Colman | Jun 3 2005 12:13 utc | 18

Robin Cook on the “Non”:
Europe’s secure, well-paid leaders have caused the crisis

There are many useful steps for the better in the new treaty and I have a lot of continental friends who have spent the best part of two years trying to perfect its text, but the harsh truth is that the whole exercise has been an extravagant diversion of energy, imagination and time that would have been far better put into addressing the legitimacy of the European project among the public. We have all behaved in a way that almost lives up to the caricature of Europe as an institution that exists for the perpetual extrusion of ever-longer treaties that meet the preoccupations of the political elites rather than the priorities of its peoples.

There are too many people who believe they demonstrate they are modern by lecturing the workers on the need to work longer for less security and for poorer pensions. All too often they themselves turn out to enjoy well-paid jobs with good pensions and lifelong job security. It is for other people to make the painful adjustment to globalisation that they preach.
If the European Union allows itself to be labelled as part of the forces of globalisation it is doomed to fail in any project to rebuild public support. There are warning signs from the recent referendum campaigns, particularly from the hostility of the young, that too many people already equate the European Union with the pressures that are eroding their job security and quality of life. The challenge is to persuade them that the European Union is an intelligent way of meeting those pressures by forging a continental economy on the same scale as the US or China. Those who are most worried about globalisation are the very people who should be most supportive of the European Union.

Posted by: b | Jun 3 2005 12:14 utc | 19

@ Jérôme
“France has the fucking stupidest “right” AND the fucking stupidest “left”. I am at loss for words in front of this gâchis.”
Can I put an alternative proposition? And that is that anybody that signs a document they do not understand is the fucking stupidest. You could see the disappointment in “Kindasleazy” Rice’s demeanour.
We live in a world run by entertainment lawyers. These people enrich themselves by sneaking far-reaching clauses into legal documents.

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 12:22 utc | 20

This all reminds me of a local activist meeting I went to that was being organised by the University Radio Station. They were looking for donations and volunteers. I was very impressed with the degree of focus and organization the activists had brought to solving the real problems that the down and out face in Montreal.
Things were moving along when out of nowhere this guy started heckling the chairman about the need to get back to the “War on Work”. What followed was a 45 minute screed about how work is oppression and we have to smash the empolyers etc.. The chairman of the committee just kept shaking his head, this does not help us fill the food bank or get the mico lending project going.
This NON vote feels a lot to me like the “War on Work”
I guess I’m just an old fasioned Menshevick that way.

Posted by: Scott McArthur | Jun 3 2005 14:39 utc | 21

A lot of mediocre people that aren’t beautiful people are getting screwed in the formerly industrialized Western nations. They blame the environmentalists and liberals. The industrialists and their political lackeys are using propaganda and lies to keep ruling the roost. If NAFTA or any of the globalization treaties were put to a up or down popular vote, they would lose despite the manipulations of industry, politicians or corporate media.

Posted by: Jim S | Jun 3 2005 14:50 utc | 22

Can I put an alternative proposition? And that is that anybody that signs a document they do not understand is the fucking stupidest. You could see the disappointment in “Kindasleazy” Rice’s demeanour.
We live in a world run by entertainment lawyers. These people enrich themselves by sneaking far-reaching clauses into legal documents.

Despite the short-tempered adjective, John seems to hit the target accurately. Sneaky and far-reaching clauses buried in long documents are Standard Operating Procedure for abusing people without their own lawyer teams. People are arguing that this is not a constitution but a treaty upthread, but that name game misses the point. This constitution/treaty is meant to be fundamental law. And if it’s too hard to understand, that means it’s not meant to be understood by anyone whose name is not Corporation, or Legion.
Of course it should be rejected. Any gains it might seem to offer are entirely outweighed by its sheer porousness to legal cooptation. Have you ever played with pumice? The stuff floats so well it seems unsinkable – better than wood! But no one builds ships out of it. Why? Because the stuff only holds air when its surrounded on all sides by water. But democracy doesn’t work that way. The people are on the air side and the profiteers are counting on the sea. If you ever tried to make pumice bear up a whole ship and cargo (read: a democracy and its people) sea water will always seep in, and the ship will always sink. That’s what the sea does, that’s its job. And the profiteers? Their job is to build ships out of pumice.
So no, and congratulations.

Posted by: citizen | Jun 3 2005 14:52 utc | 23

Scott,
I’m afraid that’s how democracy works.
That guy you describe is a relic ‘cos democracy never would follow him. Just as it will never follow you.
The French still have the remnants of something beyond price – a culture. And they are smart enough to be willing to fight to keep it.
Same with the dutch.
Did you know that the turnout for the European elections in Holland was about thirty percent. The elite said they were apathetic. Sixty two percent turned out to defend their culture. The elite say they are confused.

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 14:55 utc | 24

Seems hopeless to me, but what can you expect from maladjusted violent monkeys living in a universe that will tear apart in a few billion years anyways?

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 3 2005 15:09 utc | 25

J: that you have the fucking stupidest Left in the world is the exact joke I made to a French friend this week.
B: It’s been my opinion since more than 2 years that Robin Cook should be the PM, or maybe Ken Livingston, and not the mindless stupidly grinning buffoon the Brits are stuck with.
Concerning Europe, the trick is that no one really told the people what it was about. Yep, they loosely see it’s a way to avoid continental wars and mutual weakening of European nations. What they never got is that the only way to efficiently do away with inter-nation wars is to get rid of the nations themselves.
Blackie: Well, in democracies, minorities get screwed. Just ask the 49% who did NOT vote for W the Chimperor. In fact, as long as there is an actual majority in a democracy, it will have its way over the minorities. Don’t tell me you really believe Switzerland is any different than Belgium, UK, Canada and others. Democracy can only work if you have a very homogeneous population making something like 90+% with the same language, ethny, and probably religion (hence the moderate success of Scandinavia), or when there is NO majority, but at best a loose plurality. This is why the EU is the way to go and why all these fools that cried that Germany, or France, or UK, was going to rule over the rest of the continent are fools. No country has a majority, no language, and I’d even suppose no religion (the biggest is probably Catholic, but that’s definitely below the 50% mark, probably no more than 40%).
I should also add that, imho, the best thing ever to happen to any nation is to be ruled by a foreigner, if only to deeply humiliate their crappy nationalist feelings and to show them that “others” can do a better job than their overrated elites do.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jun 3 2005 15:13 utc | 26

cotizen.
Thanks, but it wasn’t my adjective.
For those trusting souls that cannot believe their leaders would be so duplicitous, I suggest you look here
http://www.opsi.gov.uk/acts/acts1998/80042–a.htm#1
(Sorry. Not mastered links)
The British passed their own version of the Human Rights Convention. In this case the sneak was in leaving out two of the articles
Article 1
The High Contracting Parties shall secure to everyone within their jurisdiction the rights and freedoms defined in Section I of this Convention.
Article 13
Everyone whose rights and freedoms as set forth in this Convention are violated shall have an effective remedy before a national authority notwithstanding that the violation has been committed by persons acting in an official capacity.
What does this mean? A great deal. But you have to be a lawyer to understand.

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 15:44 utc | 27

John and other “non”-ians seem to believe that the words on a treaty or constitution mean something on their own. But the EU was already demonstrating that once you have a legislature and some political apparatus, the limits are purely dependent on popular sentiment, political reality, hard cash, and guns. The “non” returns power to the nation states and the multinationals, it makes appeals to racism or cultural identity more likely to produce power. In reality, written requirements have no power over governments unless there is some substance backing it.

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 3 2005 15:53 utc | 28

B,
Could you put some links on these for the luddite, please?

done
b.
Guardian Pic
Guardian Cartoon

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 16:05 utc | 29

citizen k,
The model is the same everywhere.
You cause the legislature to sieze up.
You run the country through the legal system.
If the words are on the page, they WILL use them.
We are in the middle of something quite remarkable. The elite have made a naked grab for power. And they have been rebuffed by the people.
This is the difference between Europe and the USA. We have lived together for a very long time. We know that what goes around, comes around. There is a connection between people that manifests itself as culture. So the centre stood, and held. This is historic.
The American people never did stand up when their elite made their power grab. Their cohesion, never strong by old world standards, was not up to the task.
Vive la France!(and the Netherlands)

Posted by: John | Jun 3 2005 16:16 utc | 30

@John
Here’s how to hotlink:
type: (a href=”URLofyourlink“)going down with the ‘berg(/a)
Now replace any ( with < replace any ) with >
and this will give you, for example
going down with the ‘berg
a moment of pleasure…

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 3 2005 16:23 utc | 31

Oops, second link busted somehow. This should work:
a moment of pleasure

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 3 2005 16:26 utc | 32

But I’m disturbed by rgiap’s concern over the “non.” What makes you think this document would not have betrayed your communities to the wolves rgiap?

Posted by: citizen | Jun 3 2005 16:29 utc | 33

Citizen: This is what I find totally incomprehensible about the “non” argument. In the world I live in, France is already under the sway of a vast array of potentially inimical legal rules and actual practices, both national and international. To me, the “non” side pretends there is no GATT, no treaty of Nice, no NATO, no World Bank and IMF, as if the current EU apparatus was either totally open or totally powerless, as if the existing French government was an exemplar of transparency and popular will. What is it you think the wolves would gain from “oui” that they do not already have? I fear it is simply a choice of wolves, and you have chosen the wolves of nationalism – the results of which should be well understood.

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 3 2005 17:22 utc | 34

The mention of nationalism made me remember that France has in effect always been somewhat obstructionist re. the building of the EU. After all, wasn’t it De Gaulle who refused a common defense force, issue put on the back burner ever since? It has always looked like they went along as long as they could keep power and a central role and balked when that flagged or sagged… and the ‘New Europe’ countries (generalising) are atlantists and for a liberal economy. The latest war in the Balkans was fought by NATO..that war was a bad, bad story. Really shocking.
(This may be getting repetitive but it upsets me…) I suppose I always idealised the French left, as in CH (besides a few red spots like GE where the left is very popular …) the left is hopeless. It is a blow to actually have to face that they are possibly more compromised than others.
That is btw though. Unemployment is the vital point.
Thing is (I console myself), this time round it was possible to vote NO to the Constitution (treaty, as pointed out above; Barroso himself calls it a treaty…) without voting NO to Europe. This was not possible with Maastricht or Nice – though Nice posed problems, to use a Frenchism, as Maastricht was then effective – I remember being in Ireland just before the vote seeing in huge letters NO TO NICE which made the Irish giggle.
In all this, the document itself played a very small role. The NO vote was a protest vote against Natl Gvmts, against the elites, against a liberal economy, against the loss of a social safety net, against loss of power, etc. How did people measure the impact of Maastricht on their lives? Who read it and knew what it said? Today, who is proposing changes of this text to render it fairer and more palatable? Who is upholding the US constitution? The Geneva conventions? What do these pieces of paper really mean?
Ah well, football was invented by the Brits to give the proles a sanitary, safe, structured and supervised outlet for agression!

Posted by: Noisette | Jun 3 2005 19:19 utc | 35

Irish no to nice reasons still good reasons
it is not rampant nationalism to hang on to the possibility of the public of a country controlling public services and deciding how they are run.
There was no debate the SECOND time ireland voted on Nice – Business interests spent huge sums to frighten the population back in to line after a shock no vote and leftist analysis of the treaty was censored by and large from all of the media here in the run-up to second vote.
http://www.indymedia.ie/article133/

Posted by: drunk as a rule | Jun 3 2005 21:01 utc | 36

citizen
you are correct. there was no guarantee in the constitution that the wolves would be kept from the door other than out of the elites self interest. one of the paradoxes
firstly, want to repeat what i have already said. i am unconvinced that the no was a no of either resistance or hope. fear has been so instrumentalised by the elites they can not turn it off & on like a tap
fear was really accelerated here on the question of ‘security’ – when france is neither new york or miami or minneapolis for that matter. security was tied at the local & at the international level here. easy to do at the time – the enemy was bad arabs & the feas is also instumentalised against the ‘bad arabs’ of the interior. prince sarkozy is the evil master of that instumentalisation & it was fed on the hour every hour & then it was spread to other issues – issues which benefit the elites
this fear as it has been worked in anglosaxon societies under the masterful hands of rupert murdoch is to intermingle both fear & entertainement – where the lines become completely disassociated – where there is an intended dissassociation taking place with the population. where people learn to live with tettible things as long as it is not happening to them. they go from being witnesses to being deaf dumb & blind to everything including themselves
what murdoch teaches us is to close the doors on each other until we close the door to ourselves. we secretly know we are the enemy so we do all to prove the opposite. silent consent. as it was for the germans 33-45. absolute knowledge. complete ignorance. complete guilt.
the vote for the constitution activated all the fears & the elite was absolutely incable of controlling it – even when all the appareils of the state were used – & yes that in itself is a good thing – it show there is a heart to that no – somewhere
but as i sd the left has been unable to use this perfect opportunity to explain to the national front voters why they are the natural allies of a transforming left & not a regressive right. but no – not a word. now is also the perfect opportunity for the left to enter into a direct battle with the sate on all the inequalities that inform the nger of the people but i will be really surprised if such a battle takes place
even my danny cohn bendit – from him i have not hear a word this week
the centrists of the udf are the only ones here to call a spade a spade & such is the backwardeness of the parti communiste – if they were offered a ministry they would accept it – i am sure
i largely wanted the yes because as i sd we do not live in normal times. u s imperialism is completely capable of acts that could endanger the global situation. there needs to be a wall against them. perhaps i am an idealist in that respect inrelation to the constitution
the no of holland was definitely informed by fear – racist fear & the fear of the euro
i believe we are living in an absolutely dark time & the forces of capital have returned to the habitudes of their origin. perhaps theyu never left them. the habits of rude exploitation, absolute neglect & laws based on the repression of any movement by the crowd, the mob, the foule
what thatcher & reagan began has been flowering. they have cultivated a hatred of the poor. they have cultivated even amongs their elites old exclusions. they have cultivated basic inequalities as a second skin
i am like st just – in the face of fear – i believe the masses must use terror- terror today consists of ignoring elites in the way that they themselves are ignored. terror is to take civic life seriouslyy & to interven in civil society in active ways – because of the vibrance of associations – france is ripe for those forms of civic duty
i don’t trust the ideologues of the left here with few exceptions to interpret correctly what has happened
the right has as is their habitude – ignored what the people have said completely. the dual villepin/sarkozy prime ministership is the testimony of that. the cabinet of old chiraquians is also testimony of that. they do not listen
worse today – prince sarkozy visited a town where there have been riots & sd he was hoing to empty france of hoodlums. well his cabinet is full of them. sarkozy says exactly the same things as le pen – except he is the hated ‘meteque’ of le pen – hus parents are hungarian immigrants. sarkozy speaks directly to the front nationale electorate directly & he talks to them first. his is the perfect relationship between elites & the lumpen proletariat- a mutual dependancy
citizen – wat i want from the left is to fight for the intersts of the community at a local level,at a national level & at a global level. i want them to say in clear terms that lawbreakers like the bush blair axis are acting illegally. i wnat them to force inssitutions like the united nations, or the international court, or the kyoto treat etc etc – i want them to force these things to have a meaning & if they are not capable then let the people tear the whole shithouse down

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 3 2005 21:03 utc | 37

it is not rampant nationalism to hang on to the possibility of the public of a country controlling public services and deciding how they are run
Wrong on two counts. Count one: there is a global economy and gobal corporations and global instututions that will not yield to pretending they are not there. France outside the EU is France with less say in GATT, not France on its own. Count two: for 100 years, nationalism has been the last and first resort of despots and crooks in Europe and the US. Nationalism justifies any crime.

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 3 2005 21:46 utc | 38

Irish no to nice reasons still good reasons

You mean a combination of blatant lies from extremists on both sides and complacency from the political parties? Excellent reasons to be sure.

Posted by: Colman | Jun 3 2005 22:32 utc | 39

rememberinggiap,
whenever I know the context well, your analysis makes sense to me. On this topic, I am still the naif, so I trust your take on how the left leadership failed to show the way to voters.
I have to assume that France is moving in directions familiar to me here in the States, where simply saying you are socialist can lose you all audience, and often many of your protections. I do not imagine the word “socialist” is out in France, but perhaps you are losing other concepts to journalistic assault. which would mean that the left leadership is failing. Or perhaps it merely means that the leadership is now harder to find, that they are not in the papers, that we are in a time of samizdats. which is sobering enough
Tell me, is there a French version of official black operations on leftists? Or is it enough to just tempt ex-lefties to the big money on the right, and constantly yammer away that “we are all just consumers, we are all just consumers…”?

Posted by: citizen | Jun 3 2005 23:22 utc | 40

@citizen k
What is it you think the wolves would gain from “oui” that they do not already have? I fear it is simply a choice of wolves, and you have chosen the wolves of nationalism – the results of which should be well understood.
Not actually choosing the wolves of nationalism. Rather, prefer a people bold and wise enough to spit when someone gives poison and asks them to swallow.
Not sure why anyone should think Legion would go to all this trouble for nothing.

Posted by: citizen | Jun 3 2005 23:30 utc | 41

citizen
there is a curious reality – at once a good thing & it would seem at times a comprimised one
in the late sixties – many of the most disciplined on the left chose to take ‘the long march through the institutions’ & there are very many old maoists in very influential positions right across the spectrum & while some of those have become technocrats still in service of the working class, the poor & the disinherited – a number also have become the opposite – indeed have become luminaries of the worst kind of politics on both the left & right
the last part of this year – from september will be the real test whether the left means business or it is really a question of musical chairs in the elite
there are thousands of associations here with links deep in their communities . instead of being supplicants to the state – they will have to enter into open warfare against it & the next two years have to be a form of class war – to tell the story – once & for all
if not – it will give new life to an essentially dying extreme right
no, there has never been the type of black operations as carried out by the fbi – cointelpro /patriot act but it must be rememered that many many leftists come from the elite themselves & have been easily absorbed into dominant culture
after all here culture is an appareil of substance which has had the ability to absorb the extremes quite easily

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 3 2005 23:38 utc | 42

Citizen: Not actually choosing the wolves of nationalism. Rather, prefer a people bold and wise enough to spit when someone gives poison and asks them to swallow.
I am still unable to see the logic of this position. First, you say that “non” is not choosing the wolves of nationalism, but la pen is the winner here – as shown both by the emboldened anti-immmigrant Dutch vote and the immediate wooing of the thugs by Sarkozky. You can’t get in the bed with the devil and then decide you don’t want to be fucked. Second, to me there is a kind of resignation to defeat in the second sentence above. Of course, the intention of the framers of the treaty is denationalized european free trade run by the experts, but what is implicit in your view is that the right will dominate the legislature and control the presidency – the the dream of international cooperation or even that antique word “solidarity” is just a fleeting illusion.

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 4 2005 1:59 utc | 43

You can’t get in the bed with the devil and then decide you don’t want to be fucked.
But brother k, I thought this was a politics discussion. Where are these clean beds you seem to imply?
but what is implicit in your view is that the right will dominate the legislature and control the presidency – the the dream of international cooperation or even that antique word “solidarity” is just a fleeting illusion.
The right may dominate for a awhile, but are you suggesting that you are with the left, right or wrong? You’re not sounding like yourself at all.
And one way to make real solidarity is to reject the phony kind, the kind that really is asking for a good boffing by the devil, asking and agreeing to pay for it too.

Posted by: citizen | Jun 4 2005 2:30 utc | 44

citizen it’s a good point, but don’t torture the metaphor too much. The dangers of a Chirac and the dangers of a La Pen are of a different order as the poor German Communists found out to their chagrin in the late 20s and early 30s.
I’m not of the right or the left if these terms have any meaning at all. Does the PCF have any positive qualities? How about the Trotskyite factions? Is Danny Cohn-Bendit of the right or the left? All that is too abstract for my poor intellect and I retreat to such naive terms as human dignity, morality, obligations to ones fellow humans, liberty, and other obsolete notions from the era before the party line, homo economicus, and other grand inventions.
But looking at this from an analytic perspective, not from the perspective of who is cheering whom, can we not say that the “non of the left” is a declaration of failure and defeat? It shouts out that the left believes it would not be able to reach out to a pan-european majority and leverage power from an elected EU government. It says: all we have with us is the ability to ally with fascists to stop, not the ability to create or go forward. It is reaction at its most pure – a variant on the terror that grips Bush voters in the US.

Posted by: citizen k | Jun 4 2005 3:54 utc | 45

Quote:
…nationalism has been the last and first resort of despots and crooks in Europe and the US. Nationalism justifies any crime.
***
Yep…so right. And someone said that 21 century is going to be century of nationalism…I couldn’t believe. I thought it’s only Balkan’s old sickness…
When ever they need it nationalism is there and very easy to be used…ANYWHERE…and cheep too…

Posted by: vbo | Jun 4 2005 9:45 utc | 46

can we not say that the “non of the left” is a declaration of failure and defeat? It shouts out that the left believes it would not be able to reach out to a pan-european majority and leverage power from an elected EU government. It says: all we have with us is the ability to ally with fascists to stop, not the ability to create or go forward. It is reaction at its most pure – a variant on the terror that grips Bush voters in the US.
Exactly. Well said.

Posted by: Jérôme | Jun 4 2005 20:24 utc | 47

And rather than starting a new thread. Go read here my new take on the EU crisis:
‘Europe Dead’ – the UK’s misplaced gloating

Posted by: Jérôme | Jun 4 2005 20:26 utc | 48

no, i think citizen k’s response is a complete misreading of the no of the left. citizen k reduces what is in fact a very complicated dynamic into something quite binary & i am surprised that jérôme sees sense in it
i know jérôme is furious & so he should be but the reality of what constituted the no will be seen in concrete practice within the next year
the socialist party reflected the very real confusion & fear of the population. & the yes’s within that party are not themselves covered with laurels they are bad pedagogues & their insistence on pedagogy itself – seems to infer that the mass of people are moronic
clearly, that has always been the not so hidden ethic of elites from the right & left – thaat is – that the people are morons
the socialist party has within it the possibility to transform this situation but it must react & work quickly – it must not play out the old querelles as in old – the urgency of the situation requires a frontal attack on chirac’s suicidal government
the communist party – one of the great institutions of france, & the premier party after the war has squandered all since then in – terrible leadership, missed opportunities, historiical comprimises & sometimes just unbelieveable misreadings of the situation. also the party has never confronted brutally the front national & the groups of the right in the only way they understand – physically. nor haave they used other means – jurisprudence – to attack this disease at the centre of the republique
when i was young – a young communist – i understood as the provisional ira did in the 60’s & 70’s – the community needs to be defended – practically – by all the means at your disposal. on this level the pcf posesses a moderation that would do the seventh day adventists proud. they have also made marxism – something llike the jehovah’s witness – stultifying & smelly – which it is not. i cannot see any way they can have new life unless they are refounded in a very real way
the greens & attac & a whole series of groups need to show that their resistance is not done fromthe armchair & their concerns for the poor are real – otherwise they will be grouped with the elites the people detest
& that is one difference between the french & the british. the french detest the elites, with a hanine that is unimaginable at times – but the british adore their masters & simply want to win a competition to become one of them
to paraphrase malcolm x the frecnh population is the field negro – who when the master gets sick cannot wait for the master to die. the english on the other hand are like the house negro who when the master gets sick – get sicker than the master
the premier duty of the left in france is to defend the communities & institutions they have fought for – health education, transport etc
so with attc – the proof will be in the pudding
the other trotskyite/jesuit sectlets – are clear enough to speak but are not capable of the doing. they must turn form their jesuit exegesis into concrete action
in relation to the european possibilities of the left – i think are quite optimistic if they greet the people, the nation & the continent on real terms. the next 12 months will be the crucible for that test
if they cannot meet that test – then we all fall – you in america or britain – will also fall with us

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 4 2005 20:53 utc | 49

Colman – I said good reasons for a no vote in Ireland on the nice treaty [referendum was run twice in ireland because elite got the wrong answer the first time] existed and pointed to a coherent left document and got:
“You mean a combination of blatant lies from extremists on both sides and complacency from the political parties? Excellent reasons to be sure.”
The letter I linked to is signed by:
Ciaran Moore (Article 133 Information Group)
Barry Finnegan (MA Student, International Relations, DCU)
Deirdre DeBurca (Green Party)
Graham Caswell (Green Party)
Eamonn Crubben (IMC Ireland)
Joe Higgins (Socialist party)
Davy Phillips (Sustainable Ireland Co-operative)
Joe Carolan (Socialist Workers Party)
Andrew Flood (Libertarians against Nice)
Joseph Glynn (Earthwatch Ireland)
Mick O’Reilly (ATGWU)
Padraic Cannon (Dublin Food Co-Op)
Barry O’Donovan (Gluaiseacht)
Conor O’Brian (ATTAC)
By extremists on the left you mean all the above groups?
Point out a single lie in the document. Everything in it is referenced. All of this information, despite the attempts of greens, sinn fein and trade unionists, was not carried at all by the Irish media even though it was the central argument (together with a desire to remain neutral) of the left opposition groups.
By exteremists on the right you mean one individual who is a sorry laughing stock and yet was promoted by compliant media into leader of the opposition to Nice – right?
Justin Barrett?
Dangerous nationalism my arse in the irish case. LOCAL public control of water, health, education, media is what it was and is about. You are on the side of the governing parties on this? They implement neo-liberal corporate/rich/property-owning friendly social and economic policies, indulge in regular bouts of race-baiting, and describe themselves with a straight face as ‘socialist’. THEY ARE the extremists on the right in the irish case.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 4 2005 21:18 utc | 50

me above colman baiting

Posted by: drunk as a rule | Jun 4 2005 21:18 utc | 51

document referred to above

Posted by: drunk as a rule | Jun 4 2005 21:33 utc | 52

R’Giap
“& that is one difference between the french & the british. the french detest the elites, with a hanine that is unimaginable at times – but the british adore their masters & simply want to win a competition to become one of them
to paraphrase malcolm x the frecnh population is the field negro – who when the master gets sick cannot wait for the master to die. the english on the other hand are like the house negro who when the master gets sick – get sicker than the master”
I accept it may appear this way.
But Britain is an autocracy under the control of a Scottish Queen.
There is nothing that the English people can do.
And if you (France) sign up for the “constitution” you will be in the same boat.
To change the subject, you seem to take for granted that the document is a “good thing”. Why?
Let me steal another’s commentary:
Just quickly, here are a handful of the key examples (which I already discussed in an earlier post) of how the ECT remains not merely neo-liberal through and through, but is additionally aggressively militarist, (incidentally undermining the traditions of neutrality of Ireland and Austria):
1. Articles 111-69, 70, 77, 144 and 180 all identically repeat that the Union will act ‘in conformity with the respect for the principles of an open economic market where competition is free.’
2. There are numerous clauses that specifically correspond to demands made by certain employer organisations.
3. The ECT demands unanimous voting for any measures that might go against corporate interests. This is the certainly case for measures against tax fraud, or taxation of companies. Such legislative movement in this regard requires a unanimous vote as, above all, “[it is] necessary for the functioning of the internal market and to avoid distortion of competition.” (111-63). Thus, any future proposed duty imposed on corporations would be subject to unanimous voting – something the Ouistes regularly trot out as being reduced under the ECT.
4. Shockingly, the ECT demands all states’ subservience to NATO: ‘[M]ember states shall undertake progressively to improve their military capacities.’ (1-40-3). Article 1-40-2 says that European defence policy shall be compatible with members’ NATO obligations, a direct recognition of the superior judicial status of that military organisation. Furthermore, the article continues with even greater precision that “participating member states shall work in close collaboration with NATO”. Even in situations of “internal serious disturbances affecting public order, in cases of war or of […] the threat of war”, member states are obliged to work together in order to avoid “affecting” the functioning of the “internal market”! (III-16)’
5. Perhaps most disturbing in the ECT is clause 17 of the third section, regarding the question of the break-up of public services: It is permitted that a member state can be in favour of maintaining a public service. But public services have: “the effect of distorting the conditions of competition in the internal market, [and] the Commission shall, together with the state concerned, examine how these steps can be adjusted to the rules laid dawn in the Constitution. By derogation of common law procedure, the Commission or any member state can apply directly to the Court of Justice which will sit in secret…” (III-17)’ Thus the constitution from the start commits member states to the ultimate elimination of public services.
From Apostate Windbag

Posted by: John | Jun 4 2005 21:49 utc | 53

What do irish socialists make of the European constitution no votes?
Check out research done by the Article 133 group on Indymedia Ireland.
Meanwhiloe, here’s-
Alex Callinicos writes in today’s British Socialist Worker-
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php4?article_id=6664
European votes reveal the alternative
The coverage by the so-called quality press of the referendums on the European constitution in France and the Netherlands has been a complete disgrace.
Take last Sunday’s Observer, which portrayed “the No family” as “Monsieur Non the farmer”, “Mrs Nej the sceptic”, “Master Nee the nationalist”, and “Signorina Non the protester”.
Maybe this parade of tabloid anti-European prejudice is only what one can expect from a once fine newspaper that has degenerated into a populist Blairite rag whose idea of in-depth coverage is a feature on Abi Titmuss.
You get essentially the same interpretation from the Guardian. Martin Kettle wrote last week, “The no vote would not have won in France without the forces of Jean-Marie Le Pen. The no vote would not have won in Holland without the supporters of Pim Fortuyn.”
This is true to the extent that the xenophobic right were one constituent of the no vote. But they were a minor player in France.
Le Pen’s high-water mark came when he stood against Jacques Chirac in the second round of the last presidential elections in May 2002. He got 17.79 percent of the vote to Chirac’s 82.21 percent.
This is less than the combined share of the smaller left parties in the first round. The French far right didn’t defeat the European constitution.
The decisive force in the no vote came from within the mainstream reformist left. The rank and file of the Socialist and Green parties and of the CGT trade union federation rebelled against their leaderships and voted against the constitution.
Don’t let anyone tell you this was because of fear of Polish plumbers or hatred of Turks. A poll found that the issue that counted most for voters — 41 percent of all voters, 55 percent of no voters—was the social situation in France.
The possible entry of Turkey into the European Union (EU) came only fifth — counting 14 percent of all voters and 20 percent of no voters.
Propaganda
The driving force in the vote was reaction against the way in which neo-liberalism is changing French society for the worse, and opposition to the agenda for the EU laid out in the constitution and by the European Commission — which is neo-liberalism.
But Tony Blair and Gordon Brown see the referendum results as an opportunity to force through “reforms” — yet more neo-liberalism that will supposedly revitalise stagnant continental Europe. Here again much of what we get from the “quality” press is facile propaganda.
Michael White wrote in the Guardian on Wednesday last week, in what was meant to be an “objective” news report, “Economically and politically, the facts are on London’s side, as is the fact of the capital’s booming economy.”
The “facts”? Despite the high levels of unemployment in the euro-zone, Germany is now the world’s largest exporter, while British manufacturing continues to shrink. Labour productivity — output per hour — is much higher in France and Germany than it is in Britain.
Anyone interested in understanding what’s happening in Europe would see that the French no vote was not a xenophobic revolt against what White calls “the harsh realities of a globalised economy”. It marked the intensification of the crisis of representation that became visible in the first round of the presidential elections in April 2002.
Writing in Le Monde, pollsters Philippe Chirqui and Pierre Christian point out that the centre right and centre left parties, which supported the constitution, only won 56 percent of the votes on 21 April 2002. They comment, “The referendum finds its electoral analogy in the historic vote of 21 April, which had sent the strongest message till today to the system. Today the message is reinforced by the expression of a social malaise that all political forces must take into account.”
We witnessed the same kind of rebellion against official politics in Britain in the European elections a year ago and the general election last month. It is fed by the unanimous support given by mainstream politicians and the media to neo-liberalism.
Fortunately, as the role played by the radical left in giving voice to these rebellions showed, Mrs Thatcher was wrong. There is an alternative.
FROM FRANCE:
France’s no vote was a blow against neo-liberalism
http://www.socialistworker.co.uk/article.php4?article_id=6631
The result has sent Europe’s elite into crisis, says Nick Barrett of the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire
An incredible referendum turnaround last Sunday in France saw 55 percent of voters reject the European Union proposal for a European constitution.
This plunged the country’s Tories and Blairite left — and neo-liberal Europe — into deep crisis.
We should make no mistake about it—this is a victory for the French working class, the poor, young people, the real left and France from below.
The figures are stunning. In Marseille, a centre of radical mass movements over the last ten years, 63 percent of voters rejected the neo-liberal constitution.
In the northern Pas de Calais area, which has been devastated by factory closures, 69.5 percent voted no.
In the Languedoc-Roussillon region around Montpellier and Perpignan, which has one of the highest levels of youth unemployment in France, 63 percent voted no.
In the working class suburbs of Paris, votes as high as 73 percent were recorded against the constitution.
This was a class vote. Some 80 percent of manual workers voted no, as did 60 percent of those under 25.
Some 90 percent of managers and those in rich Parisian areas voted yes.
For the first time in more than 20 years the popular vote has given a majority to a left wing rejection of neo-liberal policies.
Yet it was far from a foregone conclusion. Eight months ago the yes camp was well ahead in the opinion polls.
Then people from the anti-capitalist movement, the anti-financial speculation group Attac, the Communist Party, the left wing of the Socialist Party and the revolutionary left came together.
This was an unprecented united campaign to counter the ruling class propaganda.
Meeting after meeting and debate after debate were organised. Understanding the constitution became a national pastime. People would read the hundreds of articles of the constitution in the Parisian Metro on their way to work.
The internet became a powerful tool in countering the official propaganda.
The yes camp accused the no campaign of being anti-European, populist and backward, but we held fast. There were a series of turning points.
Laurent Fabius, who is a prominent figure in the Socialist Party infamous for his adaptation to market capitalism in the 1980s, sensed which way the wind was blowing. He took a public position against the constitution and for a social Europe.
Despite enormous pressure 42 percent of the Socialist Party’s members voted no in its internal referendum in December last year.
In a historic debate in the CGT, France’s main trade union confederation, the national council overturned the leadership position and called for a no vote.
Then there were big strikes in February and March. For the first time the no vote was ahead in the opinion polls.
The mainstream media, president Jacques Chirac, the Tories and the majority of the Socialist Party were all united in campaigning for a yes vote.
Only one of the opposition parties — the Communist Party — had access to TV campaign spots. It opened its airtime to the whole of the left alliance.
National figures such as Communist Party leader Marie-George Buffet, the left socialists Melenchon and Emmanuelli, the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire (LCR) spokesperson Olivier Besancenot, the civil servant and founder of the radical Copernic network Yves Salesse and the radical farmer José Bové were all associated with the left no vote.
In the last weeks, the yes camp called in their allies from all over Europe — Barroso, the ultra neo-liberal Portugese president of the European Commission, German chancellor Schröder, Spanish prime minister Zapatero.
But it was all to no avail. The argument that a no vote would be anti-European just didn’t work.
This was a left wing vote. The racists, the fascists and the nationalists behind Nazi leader Jean-Marie Le Pen and Tory Philippe de Villiers were marginalised in the debate.
The vote was against unbridled neo-liberal capitalism, not for nationalism. It is a signal of hope for all European people struggling against neo-liberalism.
It has momentarily stopped the building of capitalist Europe and given the social movements time to decide how to go forward.

Posted by: Joe Carolan | Jun 8 2005 4:17 utc | 54

How France’s referendum caught fire
Dominique Strauss-Kahn, former finance minister in Lionel Jospin’s ‘plural left’ government, no doubt spoke for most of the Socialist party leadership when he remarked in January 2005 that, ‘This referendum is bloody stupid. We were bloody stupid enough to ask for one and Jacques Chirac was bloody stupid enough to call it’.1 By 29 May, when nearly 55 percent of the electorate voted to reject the new constitutional treaty for the European Union, virtually the entire political class in France must have felt the same way. All the mainstream parties – the Socialists and the various components of the ruling right-wing UMP coalition, along with the Greens – had taken a position in favour of the constitution. They all expected opposition to come predominantly from the nationalist and fascist right. Such illusions were to be brutally uprooted by a dynamic, informed and relentless whirlwind of a campaign organised by the anti-neoliberal left.
Mainstream complacency was graphically illustrated by a photograph which appeared in March on the cover of Paris-Match magazine (an upmarket version of Hello!) showing Socialist Party leader François Hollande and his Gaullist counterpart Nicolas Sarkozy besuited and smiling like two smug provincial bank managers after a particularly good lunch. The sub-heading, ‘Hollande and Sarkozy face the angry French’, spoke with unwitting eloquence of the gulf the campaign had exposed between the arrogance of a pro-market political establishment and the simmering rage of those whose lives had being pulled apart by two decades of neo-liberal rule. The radical left’s reaction was scathing. The global justice association Attac reproduced the photo on a leaflet with the words, ‘OK… I understand. For a democratic and social Europe I’m voting No’. ‘The neo-liberal twins,’ ran the editorial in Politis.2
This was the pattern of the whole campaign. The broad consensus around neo-liberal values shared by mainstream parties of right and left found itself under attack on every front. Against all expectations the future of the constitution was put in jeopardy. The debate lurched to the left. Everyone, from the president down, began wringing their hands about the effects of unfettered competition. ‘Ultra-liberalism,’ Chirac told fellow heads of state at the March EU summit, ‘is as great a menace as communism in its day’.3 The Socialist Party leadership found its embrace of the market subject to the most serious challenge it had faced in over 20 years. A decade after the public sector strikes of December 1995 had signalled a deep-seated rejection of neo-liberalism in French society, and three years after the Trotskyist left had won 10 percent of the poll in the presidential elections, the anti-neoliberal left – its trade unions, grassroots associations and parties – had found the means to punch its weight. This article is about how and why the left was able to take on the neo-liberal orthodoxy and win.
The campaign
On New Year’s Eve 2004, when Chirac announced that France’s referendum on the draft constitutional treaty for the EU would be held the following spring, few could have predicted how different the debate on its ratification was going to prove in comparison with the dreary and stale discussions that took place around the 1992 vote on the Maastricht treaty. True, the campaign may have begun with the media assuming that figures like Jean-Marie Le Pen and the nationalist aristocrat Philippe de Villiers would have a role to play in the debate. And discussion did focus for a while on right wing opposition to Turkey becoming part of the EU. But by March it was clear that the real debate was elsewhere, with the left and its ‘joyful’ No. As it unfolded the campaign, in its optimism and thirst for ideas, was more like the European Social Forum than the Maastricht debate: its significance made most sense in the context of the Seattle protests against the World Trade Organisation (WTO) in 1999, the anti-capitalist movement’s defence of José Bové in Millau in 2000, and the derailment of the WTO’s Cancun ministerial conference in 2003. By May those involved in the campaign were reaching for other comparisons: the historic Socialist election victory of 1981, the May 1968 revolt, the birth of the Popular Front. What is certainly true is that the depth and breadth of the campaign can only really be understood in the context of the mass uprising against neo-liberalism underway in France since the mid-1990s.
The draft constitution was first published in June 2004 and signed by the 25 EU member states in October. On 1 December, the Socialist Party held an internal vote on the question. Once the leadership had won its mandate to back the constitution it was expected that the 41 percent of members who voted against it would lie low. But there was more at stake than just the constitution. In April 2002 the party’s candidate in the presidential election, Lionel Jospin, had been beaten into third place by Le Pen. Many felt that this debacle had been caused by Jospin’s embrace of the market (he had privatised more public services than both preceding right wing governments) and by his failure to campaign on a socialist platform. Those who had campaigned hard within the party against the constitution realised the stakes were very high. Even before Hollande’s photo shoot with Sarkozy it was clear what kind of bed the leadership was making for itself: the same one as in 2002.
Thousands of Socialist Party activists were members of Attac, the association originally set up to call for a ‘Tobin tax’ on financial speculation which had become a significant part of the movement for global justice. Many simply joined Attac’s mobilisation around the No campaign. Nouveau Monde, a current on the left of the party led by former ministers Henri Emmanuelli and Jean-Luc Mélenchon, pitched into the campaign in defiance of the leadership. Mélenchon became the most active Socialist Party figure in the No camp. But it was the presence, discreet at first but more and more prominent as the campaign gathered momentum, of a third leading Socialist, former prime minister Laurent Fabius, which confirmed that it was not simply the fate of the European constitution that was at issue, but the future of the French left too.
According to one of Fabius’ closest advisors, Claude Bartolone, the referendum had given rise to the biggest opposition movement on the left of the Socialist Party since the debate over the abandonment of the Mitterrand government’s nationalisation programme in the early 1980s.4 But whereas in the 1980s most Socialist activists felt they had nowhere else to go, things were very different now. In October 2004 an anti-neoliberal think-tank, the Fondation Copernic, had launched a petition against the constitution in the name of left unity against neo-liberalism. The ‘Appeal of the 200’ was signed by figures from associations, trade unions and political parties from across the spectrum of the left. It ended with a call for its initiative to be followed up in every town and every sector of society by the establishment of unity collectives. By early March, 150 such committees had been set up. By mid-April there were 500. When the referendum came around at the end of May, 1,000 committees had been established across France.
As Frédéric Lebaron of the left wing Raisons d’Agir association noted, there were three main elements to the No campaign: resistance, hope and collective action.5 Resistance took many forms. Throughout the spring school students continued their protests against the Fillon education reforms which they rightly saw as an attempt to impose a logic of profit and competition on schools. Public sector workers took the fight to employers over pay and conditions. In January postal, transport and electricity workers, civil servants, teachers and hospital staff took action. Over 300,000 demonstrated across France on 20 January. One postal worker summed up the mood, ‘They’re doing everything to turn the postal service into a business like any other. But it goes much further than just the post. We live in a society where only profits count. We can’t go on like this’.6 The protests escalated. School students demonstrated in their tens of thousands all over France. Police repression – over 400 students were held in custody during three months of protests – further radicalised the movement.
Meanwhile, mobilisations were escalating in both the public and private sector over pay and conditions. With wages frozen since the Jospin government introduced the 35-hour week, Raffarin was now planning attacks on that as well. On 5 February half a million workers demonstrated in over 100 towns. On 5 March a national demonstration was held in Guéret, a small town in the Creuse department where 250 local councillors and mayors had resigned the previous year in protest at cuts in public services. When François Hollande turned up, demonstrators (many wearing No badges) pelted him with snowballs.7 Five days later a million workers, from public and private sectors alike, took part in marches across France in defence of their pay and conditions. When the European Trade Union Confederation (ETUC) demonstrated in Brussels against the Bolkestein directive on the deregulation of public services on 19 March, the 30,000-strong CGT contingent left no doubt that it was implacably opposed to the neo-liberal constitution, in marked contrast to the attitude of ETUC’s own general secretary, John Monks.
Unlike the demonstrators, Chirac could not fight on all fronts. He urged Fillon to drop part of his education reform and opened talks with the unions on wages. At the Brussels summit of EU leaders at the end of March he made great play of his opposition to the Bolkestein directive, as if he had been unaware of both the directive’s existence and his own support for it over the preceding 12 months. The directive sought to remove obstacles to free competition in the service sector across the EU. It would have allowed employees from a member state where wages were low to be employed in another at the same rate, simultaneously undermining whatever social legislation was in place and pitting workers against each other. Chirac’s ‘anti-neoliberal’ performance at the summit was a tribute to the way the No campaign had put the government on the defensive. Resistance, then, was also highly political. Both Attac and the Fondation Copernic had produced lengthy analyses of the constitution, demolishing any notion that it could further a social Europe.8 L’Humanité, the Communist Party’s newspaper, alone among dailies in calling for a No vote, was relentless in its coverage of the referendum and became an important tool of the campaign. The seriousness with which activists took the issue was underlined by sales of the copies of the constitution produced by L’Humanité, which topped one million. As Yves Salesse of the Fondation Copernic remarked throughout the campaign, the No camp’s first victory was in imposing a genuine debate on the mainstream media and politicians alike, neither of whom were prepared for the educated vehemence of their opponents.
The sharpness of the campaign’s political focus, combined with the militancy of the school students and the labour movement, made for a powerful combination. So much so that when millions of workers ignored the Raffarin government’s cynical demand that they give up the Whitsun bank holiday Monday in solidarity with the old and infirm, the pro-constitution Journal du Dimanche complained that the outrage and militancy provoked by the government would require the remaining fortnight before the poll to be spent ‘de-Whitsun-ising’ the campaign.9
The unity forged among activists from the various currents of the left was crucial in building the movement for a No vote. Activist networks from previous strikes and protests were reactivated and plugged into the existing networks of the parties and associations participating in the campaign – Attac, the Ligue Communiste Révolutionnaire (LCR), the Green and Socialist left, the trade union movement, the Communist Party (PCF), and the myriad grassroots groups of the so called ‘social movement’. As the LCR’s Olivier Besancenot told a 6,000-strong meeting organised by the Communist Party in Paris on 14 April, ‘We’ve come across each other so many times in struggle that it’s only right we should work together now.’ The unity committees, organised from below and open to all on an individual basis (as opposed to structures based on organisational affiliation) drew in significant numbers of people new to political activity. This was the fluid organisational shape of what PCF national secretary Marie-George Buffet referred to as the No camp’s ‘human chain’. This formed the core of a much wider word-of-mouth phenomenon, as millions defied what the establishment expected of them.
In the 20th arrondissement (district) of Paris, the call to form a unity committee was launched by a local Committee to Defend Public Services, itself set up on the back of the 2003 strikes against Raffarin’s pension reforms. All the currents of the anti-neoliberal left participated in the group, but around a quarter of its 200 members were new to politics. A core of around 50 activists attended the committee’s weekly meetings for three to four months, discussing the issues thrown up by the campaign before organising their activities for the week ahead. The committee drew up six or seven different leaflets during the campaign, and distributed 40,000 copies of them in the local area. Even taking into account the inevitable unevenness of the national campaign, the existence of around 1,000 such committees demonstrates the remarkable level of organisation and commitment achieved by the movement. The campaign in all its aspects can therefore be seen as the concentrated expression of the accumulated experience of more than a decade of struggle against the neo-liberal agenda of the mainstream.
The proposed constitution
One of the principal weapons at the service of the No camp was the constitution itself. The most powerful argument deployed against the document was that it would facilitate the dismantling of public services and the welfare state. Part I of the document sets out the values and functions of the EU, emphasising basic principles like respect for freedom, democracy, equality, tolerance and justice. Article I-3-2 states, ‘The Union shall offer its citizens an area of freedom, security and justice without internal frontiers, and an internal market where competition is free and undistorted.’ This commitment to ‘free and undistorted’ competition is translated into concrete measures elsewhere in the document. Other commitments are less precise. ‘Peace’, for example, appears as an objective (rather than a value) of the Union, but the document also commits member states ‘progressively to improve their military capabilities’ (I-41-3). European defence is specifically aligned with NATO policy (I-41-2).
Part II of the constitution (the Charter of Fundamental Rights first adopted at the Nice summit in 2000), frequently cited by the Yes camp as a step forward in social and democratic terms, is similarly short on specific commitments to basic rights and values. Indeed, the Charter confirms that it does not ‘establish any new power or task for the Union’ (II-111-2). It grants the right to work, but not to a job. It grants the right to help with housing, but not to a home. It claims old people should lead a dignified and independent life, but has nothing to say about retirement rights. Likewise, the need to ensure equality between men and women is stated, but few concrete measures back this up. So the right to marry and to found a family figure in the Charter, but not the right to divorce. The right to life appears, but not the right to contraception or abortion. Workers are granted the right to strike, but so are employers. In contrast to most social legislation in force across Europe then, the treaty would make the lock-out a constitutional right.
Nowhere in the draft constitution does the principle of ‘public service’ appear either as a value or as an objective of the Union. Where it does feature, it is almost invariably subordinated to the imperative of ‘free and undistorted’ competition. In Part III, the most controversial aspect of the constitution, the political and economic framework established for the EU by previous treaties is recapitulated. It is, to all intents and purposes, a neo-liberal manifesto for Europe.10 Restrictions on free enterprise, and on the free movement of capital are ‘prohibited’ (III-138, III-156). This would rule out, for example, measures to prevent or inhibit the relocation of industry or any kind of Tobin tax on financial speculation. Public services, renamed ‘services of general economic interest’, are subjected to EU competition rules (III-166-2). State aid which ‘distorts or threatens to distort competition’ is considered ‘incompatible with the internal market’ (III-167-1) and the European Commission is granted powers to abolish it (III-168-2). The text itself therefore gives the lie to Chirac’s claims to oppose the principles behind the Bolkestein directive. Along with persons, goods and capital, the constitution also guarantees the free movement of services, abolishes restrictions on the freedom to provide services across the Union and calls on all member states to undertake the liberalisation of services beyond the extent outlined in the existing EU legislative framework, should the economic situation permit (I-6, III-144, III-148). Part III also confirms the independence of the European Central Bank along with the measures outlined in the EU’s Stability Pact, which exert downward pressure on public spending and borrowing.
The treaty, in other words, enshrines free market capitalism as a constitutional principle.11 Here, perhaps, was the most mendacious aspect of the Yes campaign. Its leading proponents frequently claimed that the measures contained in Part III were less important than the generalities outlined in Parts I and II. Valéry Giscard d’Estaing himself, responsible for overseeing the drafting of the constitution, constantly attempted to downplay the significance of Part III, while the Socialist former Euro-deputy Olivier Duhamel was not alone in publishing a version of the constitution which omitted it altogether. Yet far from simply recapping previous treaties, Part III (along with the rest of the constitution) supersedes them, as the protocols outlined in Part IV make plain. The neo-liberal measures outlined in Part III are therefore much more than mere articles in a treaty: they become rights granted to corporations, guaranteed by a constitution designed to remain in place indefinitely (IV-446), with no revision possible unless all 25 member states vote unanimously to do so.
Not only does the constitution retain all the existing undemocratic features of the EU, it makes it virtually impossible to overturn them. The only EU body elected by universal suffrage, the parliament, would have no right to introduce legislation, this power remaining with the Commission, while the direction of policy would in any case be severely restricted by the provisions laid out in Part III of the treaty. The development of EU policy in a neo-liberal direction is itself a testimony to the influence brought to bear on EU decision-making by powerful lobbies of major European corporations. Privileged access to the European Council, the Council of Ministers and the European Commission by groups like the European Roundtable of Industrialists has long been a defining feature of the EU.12 The opaque nature of negotiation between member states and the Commission, and the complex and undemocratic web of overlapping interests between EU institutions and corporate lobby groups is kept intact by the constitution, which does nothing to overcome what is quaintly referred to as the Union’s ‘democratic deficit’. The constitution does grant the right to propose legislation by petition, however, on condition that a million signatures be submitted to the Commission. Yet there is no obligation on the Commission to act on any petition it receives. As the campaign drew to a close François Hollande claimed that if the Yes camp emerged victorious the Socialists’ first act would be to submit a petition requesting legislation on public services. If the constitution represented a compromise between neo-liberalism and social democracy, as the Socialists claimed, there could be no better indication of who benefited most from it than Hollande’s belated and abject promise.
Winning is just the beginning
The referendum dramatically exposed the faultline running through European politics: millions of people reject the neo-liberal consensus shared by mainstream parties of left and right alike. The victory of the No vote is the most significant blow dealt against this consensus to date. During the campaign between 60 percent and 70 percent of television coverage was given over to representatives of the Yes camp.13 Chirac was given prime live television airtime on four separate occasions to plead the case for the constitution. But rather than mount a coherent defence of their neo-liberal agenda, establishment politicians of left and right endlessly repeated the same message: a No vote represented a nationalist, xenophobic, populist rejection of Europe. The No campaign’s victory was a vigorous and glorious slap in the face for the mainstream’s arrogance and dishonesty. It was the left’s victory. Of those who voted No, 55 percent were supporters of left wing parties (19.5 percent were supporters of the FN), while 73 percent of the mainstream right’s electorate voted Yes.14 Most of the left’s electorate voted No (58 percent of Socialists, 95 percent of Communists, 64 percent of Greens), as did most young people and 81 percent of workers.15 The vast majority of No voters remained favourable to European integration. Their overwhelming motivation in voting No was the social and economic situation in France (52 percent), closely followed by the belief that the project outlined in the constitution was too neo-liberal (40 percent).16 The exit polls, then, confirmed what the campaign itself had revealed to anyone who cared to see: the dynamic which propelled the No vote to victory was generated by the left.
The No campaign can be seen as the political expression of the ongoing struggles first opened up by the December 1995 strikes. In their aftermath Jospin’s ‘plural left’ had prevented the emergence of a broad anti-neoliberal front by wedding elements of the radical left to his governmental coalition. The break-up of the ‘plural left’, and the subsequent failure of the Socialist leadership to hold the line on the constitution, are indications that the scope for such intermediary solutions to the crisis of French politics is narrowing. The centre cannot hold. The scale of the crisis facing France’s rulers, the political elite’s lack of solutions and the depth of opposition to neo-liberalism, mean that this will continue to be the case.
The defeat of the Yes camp was of course a defeat for Chirac, whose presidency was severely weakened, and his prime minister, Raffarin, who resigned soon afterwards. But it also dealt a major blow to the ‘social liberalism’ of the French Socialist Party, its compromises with the market. The campaign clearly showed that for now the principal dividing line in French politics is that which separates the neo-liberal mainstream from the rest of the population. Some failed to see this. Toni Negri cut a sorry figure in the company of former left-wingers Julien Dray and Dany Cohn-Bendit at a pro-constitution meeting in May, as he tried to convince a largely bemused audience that global capital could be defeated if workers made an alliance with the European ruling class and backed the constitution.17 Lutte Ouvrière decided to oppose the constitution (having abstained in the 1992 referendum), but took no significant steps to convince anyone else to do so. The campaign as a whole, however, gave a powerful demonstration of the possibilities opened up by the unity in action of an anti-neoliberal alliance stretching from Attac to the revolutionary left.
After the referendum, media speculation centred on various possible combinations between the left of the PS and the Greens, the PCF and the Trotskyist left. Much of this speculation focused on the role of Fabius, once an architect of compromise with the market, now a prospective presidential candidate on a more radical platform. One of the most important elements in the campaign, however, was the way it developed into a movement in its own right. During the fortnight that preceded the poll some of the biggest rallies held on the left for a generation were organised by the No campaign. Over 5,000 people met in Toulouse, 1,200 in Dijon, 3,000 in Rouen, 5,000 in Martigues and 15,000 in Paris. These meetings, along with hundreds of others organised throughout France during the campaign, were combative and angry but also hopeful, even joyful (as so many of the speakers noted). The defiant, optimistic mood of the campaign, articulated through the hundreds of unity committees that formed its organisational core, reflected a movement that was finding its voice, and the measure of its potential. Over the coming months, amid the clamour of those seeking to stifle the radicalism of the campaign, this voice is sure to be heard.
NOTES
1: Le Canard enchaîné, 21 January 2005.
2: Politis, 24 March 2005.
3: Newsweek International, 27 March 2005.
4: Libération, 11 March 2005.
5: L’Humanité, 12 May 2005.
6: Socialist Review, February 2005.
7: Murray Smith, ‘A New Wave of Struggles’, International Viewpoint, March 2005.
8: See, for example, Yves Salesse, Manifeste pour une autre Europe (Paris, 2004) ; Fondation Copernic, ‘Dire non à la “constitution” européenne pour construire l’Europe’, September 2004; Fondation Copernic, ‘Contre la “constitution”, nous proposons une autre Europe’, January 2005; Attac, Cette ‘constitution’ qui piège l’Europe (Paris, 2005); Attac, Ils se sont dit Oui: Attac leur répond (Paris, 2005).
9: Journal du Dimanche, 15 May 2005.
10: R M Jennar, Europe, la trahison des …lites (Paris, 2004), p93.
11: Paul Alliès, Une Constitution contre la démocratie? (Paris, 2005).
12: G Carchedi, For Another Europe: A Class Analysis of European Economic Integration (London, 2001), B Balany‡ et al, Europe Inc: Regional and Global Restructuring and the Rise of Corporate Power (London, 2003).
13: S Halimi, ‘Médias en tenu de campagne’, Le Monde diplomatique, May 2005; Le Monde, 29/30 May 2005.
14: http://www.ipsos.fr/CanalIpsos/
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15: Le Monde, 31 May 2005.
16: http://www.ipsos.fr/CanalIpsos/poll/
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17: Another philosopher, Jürgen Habermas, made an equally embarrassing intervention, signing a patronising pro-constitution open letter in Le Monde (2 May 2005), which revealed that his desire to see a European citizenship develop on the basis of ‘constitutional patriotism’ had degenerated into ‘My constitution right or wrong’.

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