Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
June 23, 2005
It´s Over

Maybe you didn’t notice this, but:

The War is Over, and We Won

What the establishment media covering Iraq have utterly failed to make clear today is this central reality: With the exception of periodic flare-ups in isolated corners, our struggle in Iraq as warfare is over. Egregious acts of terror will continue—in Iraq as in many other parts of the world. But there is now no chance whatever of the U.S. losing this critical guerilla war.

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*Cough*, *gasp*, choking for air … huh, wait a minute, this is from AEI … yeah right … TOTAL BULLSHIT !
In fact, I’ve seen a variation of this article previously ‘forwarded’ to servicemen and thier families via email addressed to ‘family and friends’ … Goebbels would have been proud (sarcasm).

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 23 2005 14:46 utc | 1

The REAL Iraq …

The New York Times
Second Wave of Bombs in Baghdad Kills at Least 17
BAGHDAD, Iraq, June 23 – Four car bombs that exploded within about 10 minutes of each other in Baghdad early today killed at least 17 people and wounded 68 others, an Interior Ministry official said …

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 23 2005 14:49 utc | 2

Parallel realities?
I suspect that, as usual, Outraged, has offered a devastating refutation. Nevertheless, many people will
buy this claptrap, and even honest American truth-seekers who haven’t been to Iraq will have another “reason” to “remain on the fence”, or be moderate in their opposition
to this criminal folly. Probably that’s the whole point
of issuing such “war bulletins”. For a decidedly
different take on what’s happening the Yorkshire Ranter (second essay, i.e. Wednesday June 22) offers an interesting analysis. Of course, I don’t
think he’s been to Iraq recently.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jun 23 2005 14:58 utc | 3

@Outraged – that’s just Baghdad – an “isolated corner”

Posted by: b | Jun 23 2005 15:14 utc | 4

@b
The Zinmeisters manufactured and pre-packaged white propaganda is just another of thier endless variations re the ‘reality gap’ …

May 11, 2005: The Reality Gap – “When a country adopts a wildly adventuristic military policy, as we have done since the Cold War ended, it gets beaten.”

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 23 2005 15:31 utc | 5

listen to leonards voicemails from iraq….
Leonard Clark,860th MP CO,AZ Army National Guard

Posted by: annie | Jun 23 2005 15:37 utc | 6

The Bush Administration’s Psy-Ops on the US Public An Interview with Col. Sam Gardiner. By Kevin Zeese via counterpunch

There is absolutely no question that the White House and the Pentagon participated in an effort to market the military option. The truth did not make any difference to that campaign. To call it fixing is to miss the more profound point. It was a campaign to influence. It involved creating false stories; it involved exaggerating; it involved manipulating the numbers of stories that were released; it involved a major campaign to attack those who disagreed with the military option. It included all the techniques those who ran the marketing effort had learned in political campaigns.

…just more marketing.

Posted by: beq | Jun 23 2005 15:46 utc | 7

The name of the author of the AEI article, Karl Zinsmeister, should be changed to Karl {Sp}insmeister. Sorry. I could not resist.

Posted by: Dismayed | Jun 23 2005 15:51 utc | 8

finally, some good news coming out of Iraq. I feel a lot better now.

Posted by: dan of steele | Jun 23 2005 16:18 utc | 9

About those propaganda emails … here’s some background from back in Oct 2003:
Identical Soldier Letters to US Newspapers Describe Accomplishments in Iraq
Here’s a copy of the relevant ‘letter
Notice any similarity between the content, style and even a few key phrases between the widely distributed ‘form letter’ and Zinsmeisters ‘article’ (*Gag*) ?

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 23 2005 16:46 utc | 10

The Carve-Up Begins.

The Iraq war has so far cost America and Britain £105billion. But the financial clawback is gathering pace as British and American oil giants work out how to get their hands on the estimated £3trillion worth of oil.
Executives from BP, Shell, Exxon Mobil and Halliburton, Dick Cheney’s old firm, are expected to congregate at the Paddington Hilton for a two-day chinwag with top-level officials from Iraq’s oil ministry. The gathering, sponsored by the British Government, is being described as the “premier event” for those with designs on Iraqi oil, and will go ahead despite opposition from Iraqi oil workers, who fear their livelihoods are being flogged to foreigners. The Met will be on hand to secure the venue ahead of the conference.
“This is a networking opportunity for UK businesses involved in Iraqi oil,” explained Dr Hussain Rabia, managing director of the consultancy Entrac Petroleum Ltd. “We have the moral support of the UK government. They’re bringing the guys over from Iraq, offering them visas. We expect all the big oil companies to be there,” he said.
Delegate numbers are described as “confidential”. Shell spokesman Simon Buerk would not confirm that a representative of the company would be attending, but said he “wouldn’t be at all surprised if they were”.
“We aspire to establish a long-term presence in Iraq,” he said. “We have been helping the [Iraqi] Ministry of Oil and engineers with training.”
Those who have purchased their £1,200 tickets can expect access to executives from Iraq’s oil ministry, including Salem Razoky, the director general of exploration.
But Iraqi oil workers are furious about the conference. “The second phase of the war will be started by this conference carving up the industry,” said an outraged Hasan Juma’a, head of the Iraqi General Union of Oil Employees. “It is about giving shares of Iraq to the countries who invaded it – they get a piece of the action as a reward. The British government will back this action in order to pay its debt in Iraq.”
Hasan, who represents 23,000 skilled oil workers, fears that deals struck at the conference will see profits from Iraq’s massive oil reserves – the second richest in the world – lining the pockets of multinational corporations at the expense of the Iraqi people.
Previous form suggests his concerns are well founded. Under the initial wage table drawn up by Paul Bremer’s provisional Baghdad government in September 2003, oil workers were to receive a minimum monthly pay packet of £25. After a threatened union strike, it was raised to £38. And, Hasan insists, “Iraqi oil workers are good enough to rebuild without any need of help. ”
Greg Muttitt, a researcher with Platform, an independent environmental think thank, agrees. “The decisions on how to carve up Iraq are being made behind closed doors in Washington, London and Baghdad.
“This conference is a key part of the plan to help multinational companies get stuck in once those arrangements are in place. It’s a corporate feeding frenzy – they’re not writing the recipes, they’re tucking in their napkins.”

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jun 23 2005 17:07 utc | 11

When I try to open Bernhard’s link it is blocked by the company filter as being related to “drugs”. That’s it; they’re stoned.

Posted by: beq | Jun 23 2005 17:14 utc | 12

Who ya gonna believe.
The AEI or Riverbend.

Posted by: RossK | Jun 23 2005 17:45 utc | 13

Riverbend

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 23 2005 18:04 utc | 14

ô outrageous
they, the cheney bush junta like their models – the mafia – the more they scream they are winning, the ore they use disproportionate force – you know absolutely that they are losing

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 23 2005 19:22 utc | 15

I just remember how the birkenstock wearing hippy/commie liberals after 9/11 thought that best course would be to understand the terrorists and give them therapy.
Only George W. Bush understood the real problem. That the Saudi Hijackers attacked us because our society was too different from theirs–and that the real outside of the box solution is to make America more like Saudi Arabia.
Which is a tough sell, but hey, Karl is on the payroll.

Posted by: Porco Rosso | Jun 23 2005 19:25 utc | 16

Karl Zinmeister’s assessment of the progress in Iraq seems to be a bit more rose-tinted than General John Abizaid’s assessment. Curious how people with an agenda (and who have no personal responsibility) can see an entirely different picture than do others.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 23 2005 21:06 utc | 17

@Monolycus
That link brought me to a Rumsfeld story – but it ended on this bit of evidence that everyone knows what shit smells like:

“Public support in my state is turning,” said Sen. Lindsey Graham, a Republican from South Carolina. “People are beginning to question.
“And I don’t think it’s a blip on the radar screen. We have a chronic problem on our hands.”

Posted by: citizen | Jun 23 2005 21:43 utc | 18

OK, they’ve declared victory. So now they can bring the troops home, right?

Posted by: Billmon | Jun 23 2005 21:56 utc | 19

@citizen
The article began ostensibly as Rumsfeld’s defense that we are “not losing the war”, but the second half was a refutation of that declaration… so I thought it was applicable to this thread (I could also have included the 180 degree turnaround of Walter Jones… sounds like a made-for-TV movie doesn’t it?)
Specific to refuting Karl Zinmeister’s assertion that we can not lose the guerrila war on the ground and that we can now get the best price for the hearts and minds of the Iraqi people on EBay was found in the middle of the article.
However, Gen. John Abizaid, commander of the U.S. forces in the Persian Gulf, testified that the Iraqi insurgency isn’t weakening.
“I believe there are more foreign fighters coming into Iraq than there were six months ago. In terms of the strength of the insurgency, I would say it is the same as it was.”

To be entirely fair, though, Rumsfeld did not actually come out and say we are winning anything as Zinmeister did. He just said we aren’t losing. The difference here is that we need to scrap the “Mission Accomplished” banners and get some “Mission Ongoing Into the Foreseeable Future” banners printed up.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 23 2005 22:15 utc | 20

@Porco Rosso
I am a huge fan of yours, but never expected to meet anywhere, even online. Have you made any more movies recently?
@Monolycus
I skimmed too fast – apologies.

Posted by: citizen | Jun 23 2005 22:38 utc | 21

It is a good propaganda piece whether the Cheney administration are planning on declaring victory and get the troops running towards the Kuwaiti border or planning on staying (just need a few more volunteers).
Good propaganda anyway, Goebels would be proud.

Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jun 24 2005 2:03 utc | 22

It appears that Cheney/Rumsfeld/Rove are preparing 2 possible exit strategies.
EXIT STRATEGY 1:
Mission accomplished, for real.
From Leslie Gelb’s April 2005 report to Council on Foreign Relations on his 10-day trip to Iraq

QUESTIONER [Pete Peterson]: . . . presuming for the moment that our military knows that the training [of Iraqi soldiers] is inadequate, it doesn’t take a total cynic to conclude that one of the possible reasons that that’s going on is the administration is playing a kind of a numbers game in which they want a rationale or a rationalization to pull out American troops. Do you think the military knows and agrees with you that the training is inadequate? And if they are doing it in spite of that, elaborate further on what you think the administration’s motivation is.
GELB: These are very smart guys, the senior military officers we have there. Very able people–I think some of the most able people we have in the armed services. Whether they think they’re doing the right thing in the right way and that the training will take place subsequently, I can’t tell you they don’t believe that, Pete. All I can tell you is that my experience is that when you, in a revolutionary chaotic situation like this, try to turn out that number of troops, it has been my experience that it’s under political pressure.

John Burns, NYT 6/19/05

. . . a feeling is growing among senior officers in Baghdad and Washington that it is only a matter of time before the Pentagon sets a timetable of its own for withdrawal. ..
“I think the drawdown will occur next year, whether the Iraqi security forces are ready or not,” a senior Marine officer in Washington said last week. “Look for covering phrases like ‘We need to start letting the Iraqis stand on their own feet, and that isn’t going to happen until we start drawing down’. “

Evidently, it did not occur to the senior Marine officer that they might actually claim victory.
EXIT STRATEGY 2:
War critics betrayed the country and caused any Iraqi failure.
Karl Rove’s attack in NYC on liberals and Sen. Durbin

“Conservatives saw the savagery of 9/11 in the attacks and prepared for war; liberals saw the savagery of the 9/11 attacks and wanted to prepare indictments and offer therapy and understanding for our attackers…”
Mr. Rove also said American armed forces overseas were in more jeopardy as a result of remarks last week by Senator Richard J. Durbin…
… “Has there ever been a more revealing moment this year?” Mr. Rove asked. “Let me just put this in fairly simple terms: Al Jazeera now broadcasts the words of Senator Durbin to the Mideast, certainly putting our troops in greater danger. No more needs to be said about the motives of liberals.”

John in DC at AMERICAblog identifies the tell-tale earmarks that identify Rove’s remarks as one volley in a White House-orchestrated campaign. 1. White House released TEXT of Rove’s remarks. Etc.
With two exit strategies in preparation, it’s hard to imagine the Cheney administration is thinking hard about staying much longer. Of course, they never did plan to stay, so this would be consistent.

Posted by: small coke | Jun 24 2005 2:18 utc | 23

somebody was planning to stay small coke even if it wasn”t the cheney admin>>sorry their plans got buggered up>

Posted by: rapt | Jun 24 2005 2:43 utc | 24

if it’s over, what’s up w/ this wapo article on the pentagon using a private marketer (thereby circumventing legal obstructions) in order to compile a database listing “high school students ages 16 to 18 and all college students to help the military identify potential recruits.”? the madsen report says the draft is coming folks, and points out that halliburton/kbr’s arlington office just so happens to be right across the street from the selective service office ( “now up and running with new staff, over 300 computer workstations, and high level attention from Bush, Cheney, and Rumsfeld”). maybe they’ll start w/ the families kicked out of their houses in order to make room for shopping malls, eh? better yet, since things have turned out so well in iraq, thank god – the white one, that is – why not send the pr flacks to the front lines? let them take over, ya know, practice their chops & spin themselves silly while spreading freedumb and working on their tans.

Posted by: b real | Jun 24 2005 4:04 utc | 25

oh yea, halliburton needs more troops. “KBR has more than $10 billion in work orders from the Army to support U.S. troops and rebuild Iraq’s oil industry.”

Posted by: b real | Jun 24 2005 4:15 utc | 26

All right then. Let’s pull out.

Posted by: yy | Jun 24 2005 7:34 utc | 27

what’s up w/ this wapo article
Infighting between factions? Keeping their options open? I don´t know, but since their was a multitude of reasons for them to invade iraq: oil, domestic power, knocking out an enemy of Israel, and so forth, I think it is reasonable to assume that planning a pull-out would cause infighting. Though I do not know what the factions would be.

Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jun 24 2005 10:22 utc | 28

A Swedish case: Sweden: Expulsions carried out by US agents, men tortured in Egypt
A German case: CIA Flying Suspects To Torture?

Khaled el-Masri was born in Kuwait, but he now lives in Germany with his wife and four children. He became a German citizen 10 years ago. He told 60 Minutes he was on vacation in Macedonia last year when Macedonian police, apparently acting on a tip, took him off a bus, held him for three weeks, then took him to the Skopje airport where he believes he was abducted by the CIA.
“They took me to this room, and they hit me all over and they slashed my clothes with sharp objects, maybe knives or scissors,” says el-Masri.
“I also heard photos being taken while this was going on – and they took off the blindfold and I saw that there were a lot of men standing in the room. They were wearing black masks and black gloves.”
El-Masri says he was injected with drugs, and after his flight, he woke up in an American-run prison in Afghanistan. He showed 60 Minutes a prison floor plan he drew from memory. He says other prisoners were from Pakistan, Tanzania, Yemen and Saudi Arabia. El-Masri told 60 Minutes that he was held for five months and interrogated by Americans through an interpreter.

At that point, did anyone ever tell him that they’d made a mistake? “They told me that they had confused names and that they had cleared it up, but I can’t imagine that,” says el-Masri. “You can clear up switching names in a few minutes.”
He says he was flown out of Afghanistan and dumped on a road in Albania. When he finally made his way back home in Germany, he found that his wife and kids had gone to her family in Lebanon. He called there to explain what happened.

Also on the el-Masri story: ‘They beat me from all sides’
US Said to Regret Kidnapping of German

Posted by: Fran | Jun 24 2005 12:34 utc | 29

Karl Zinsmeister is a cretin… that’s all I can say.
Even with a media corrupted like here in Australia no single person (even this lousy government) dared to say that things are better in Iraq…let alone that the war is over or God forbid that “we” won…
People like Karl Zinsmeister should be forbidden to write anything anywhere anymore…
***
Quote (SBS Australia tonight)
As four more car bombers struck across Baghdad, killing 17 people, a war of words erupted in Washington. Appearing before the Senate Armed Services Committee, the Defence Secretary denied the Democrats’ claim that America was bogged down in Iraq.
DONALD RUMSFELD, US DEFENCE SECRETARY: There isn’t a person at this table who agrees with you that we are in a quagmire and that there is no end in sight.
Senator Ted Kennedy accused Mr Rumsfeld of mismanaging the war.
EDWARD KENNEDY, DEMOCRATIC SENATOR: Isn’t it time for you to resign?
DONALD RUMSFELD: Senator, I have offered my resignation to the President twice and he has decided that he would prefer that he not accept it, and that’s his call.
The US military commander in the Middle East contradicted last month’s statement by Vice-President Dick Cheney that the insurgency was in its last throes.
GENERAL JOHN ABIZAID, US CENTRAL COMMAND: I believe there are more foreign fighters coming into Iraq than there were six months ago. In terms of the overall strength of the insurgency, I would say it is about the same as it was.
Highlighting the diverging views of the military and the Bush Administration, Vice-President Cheney’s is standing by his “last throes” statement. He now says the US will win in Iraq, as it did in Afghanistan, and that it will be an enormous success story. But as the Iraqi Prime Minister arrived in Washington to meet President Bush, and map out joint strategy, another poll has shown that a growing number of Americans no longer support the war.
***
They are on defense …that’s a first good sign. On the other hand they are unscrupulous so I don’t expect them to do anything smart or God forbid honest any time soon. But this is a good start…

Posted by: vbo | Jun 24 2005 12:34 utc | 30

@vbo
” He now says the US will win in Iraq, as it did in Afghanistan, and that it will be an enormous success story.”
Was I asleep at the wheel? When did the US win the invasion of Afghanistan? I would have expected that the first successful war against Afghanistan (a war neither the British nor the Soviets, both huge armies at the time, were unable to pull off) would have been much bigger news.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 24 2005 18:53 utc | 31

Edit the pre-coffee double negative in the above. You know what I was trying to say.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 24 2005 18:56 utc | 32

Edit the pre-coffee double negative in the above. You know what I was trying to say.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 24 2005 18:56 utc | 33

@Monolycus
do two positives make a no?

Posted by: citizen | Jun 24 2005 19:51 utc | 34

I’m going to have to consult a handy grammar guide to figure out if a double-post constitutes a negation. (I’m not a big fan of the new scripting, B!)
Anyway… I was rattling off a quick observation about how Afghanistan withstood and repelled both the British and Soviet armies, but when I re-read it (after my coffee began to kick in), it sounded like I was saying that the Brits and Soviets had both conquered Afghanistan. I would think that my intended statement was obvious, but the way people play fast and loose with documented facts these days (“What proliferation treaty?” “I never said anything about UN resolution 1441… we went there to get rid of a ruthless dictator!” “We didn’t lose in Vietnam!” et cetera, ad nauseum), I thought that I had better try to make myself a bit clearer.
In retrospect, I just murked up a perfectly valid meaningless observation that would have slipped unnoticed into the background chatter if I could have just let it be. Kind of like I’m doing now.

Posted by: Monolycus | Jun 24 2005 23:19 utc | 35