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June 17, 2005
Form Over Substance

There appear to be enough "top Al Qaeda aides" in Iraq to fill Shea Stadium. Zarqawi’s inner circle alone would probably take up the entire upper deck. This is not only bad news, but bad storytelling.

Form Over Substance

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On a tangent that I claim takes the entertainment approach one step furhter, I claim tthat “The Big Picture” by Edward Jay Epstein is the most important political book of the year.
His discussion of the NDA, the non disclosure agreement signed by everyone connected to a big studio production, is the best discussion I know of modern politics. All signers are obliged by enforeable contact to lie, and if they don’t they can be sued, and it they tell the truth about the lie, they can be sued. As well as blackballed. All the cable TV buffons are working a minor league version of the major studio blockbuster release. And any reporter who does any real work knows it is all lies.
“Talking Points” is just an inferior political version of whatever lie the studio concocts to sell its product. Take the current example – are Pitt and Jolie involved? That bullshit was ordered over a year ago. And the whole media plays along, fighting for face time with the Player Contracted To Lie For Profit.
The TV episode and the Big Movie Release (more tightly scripted than the movie – Epstein claism Bourne Identity was reshot to add scenes taht sell more popcorm) is still one step away from the truth. The NDA contract to lie, and its observance by all media, is the core truth of media today.
Consider, for example, the predicted response to the Democrat “hearings” yesterday. That response is GUARANTEED to be scripted Hollywood promotion style, with Contract To Lie Players, and their media enablers. The actual product – who cares? The Contract To Lie Rules. It will be given the place at the head of the table, and due deference.

Posted by: razor | Jun 17 2005 19:49 utc | 1

From the very beginning, of course, the Bush administration has had a pronounced tendency to treat the war on terrorism and the war in Iraq as if they were gigantic back-to-back episodes of America’s Most Wanted.
Particularly ironic in light of Bush’s jab at the prior administration about treating terrorism as a law enforcemnt matter.
Shit, the way things are going, I wouldn’t be too surprised if some day soon Centcom announces it’s captured the Joker and the Riddler, and is hard on the trail of the Penguin.
Satire doesn’t have nearly the shelf life it used to since Bush became President. Satire one day, official administration policy the next. Sometimes I think they must come over here for their ideas.

Posted by: bcf | Jun 17 2005 19:54 utc | 2

blending threads here, but it’d be fun to see george carlin playing the ray mcgovern role in the movie version of yesterday’s hearing

Posted by: b real | Jun 17 2005 20:18 utc | 3

razor, we will have none of your bolshevik sermonising here, thank you very much
accusing the honorable creators of the greatest cultural achievements since genesis – since those famous six days
& where were your ideologues when jackie gleason needed them, or for that matter ‘car 54, where are you’
& we know contemporary marxism is so bitter because they did not do a deal with dreamworks & they have not understood that the weinstein brothers are the new marx & engels
only rupert, the great & grand rupert murdoch, peace be to him!, there is no media giants but a giant, him, praise be to him!, ô praise be to him that knows all! ô praise him who knows us better than we ourselves! may the peace be with him ! rupert murdoch is great! therre is no one greater than he!
& whoever has scriptwritten this war has got too many plots mixed up – where is robert towne when you need him – ô where is william goldman when you are looking for a good ending. where have all the sciptwriters gone, gone , gone, every one
& this war has been left to the working group that concocted ‘cops’ for rupert, what is the chigago school compared to them, what are the frankfurt school compared to their genius, what is the viennese circle compared to these giants of words & numbers
so the crew from ‘cops’ are back at it again – in iraq – with the boys going go! go! go! go! in perfect english as they strom the compound of another arab evildoer – they are all evildoers certainly – but those with compounds – they are really, really bad
ô praise be to rupert murdoch!
may the peace be with him!
in cops the badguy is alway african american or white trash – ô in iraq – there is no confusion at all. they all wear dresses & have moustaches. it is a creation that will go on forever, country to country, continent to continent
& then larry o larry – larry who feld from medina – his hejira – in his hour – everybody can get to talk to larry – ô larry king – king of all & one & one & all. friend of the st wolf blitzer – honourable genetic spawn of the kaiser wilhelm, shimon peres & jayne russell
these kings of wisdom – these searchers for truth – not contracts razor – don’t turn commie on me razor – there needs to be some certainties in our time

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 20:35 utc | 4

Spot the Media Trend?

Posted by: Friendly Fire | Jun 17 2005 20:45 utc | 5

This rainy day has been lightened by your prose, rememberinggiap. Unmistakeable. I am moved to comment: husker du? Do you remember?
If that’s what it takes to get comrade r. in such fine form, then, I say, let razor go!

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 21:15 utc | 6

don’t jonku
i’ll be remembering slade confused with terry eagleton
or hal foster & mountain
or frederick jameson & flock with jerry goodman
papa john creach & poulantzes
three dog night & habermas
perhaps we could get a series going, ‘urban guerilla’ – where the forces of the state bag everynight an enemy of the state prepared to do evil(in the name of ideology , of course) – i can imagine the intro now – a little bit of mc5 & the tactical squad dressing up – the bad guys(me & me)or(i & i as the rastas would have it) – projected on the wall with my rap sheet & known confederates
not much text – more or less the same – go! go! go! go! go! on the ground! on the ground! on the ground!
the bad guy speaking gobbledegoook like people like myself do – the public won’t listen in any case – pump out some old al kooper michael bloomfield
ô can see it now – with reruns in the phillipines 20 years later melting into reruns of bewitched
‘urban guerrilla’ – the show wherte the hegelians get halted!
the series that can help you sleep at night & teach you the futility of reading
the series where the other gets othered
ô jonku in these dark times we could make a fortune
you ring rupert right now – give him the rap – i think i’m in his bad books for the moment – you know how it is

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 21:46 utc | 7

another idea for a show
“fragged” -a reality show where an occupation force kills each other until the last man left standing – who is then elected president of the third american imperium

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 21:55 utc | 8

And now I’m anticipating — the theme music of course, Urban Guerilla by Hawkwind — now that’s a song that is ripe for cooptation like Iggy’s Lust for Life in a car commercial.
“go, go, go!” I love it. With that green-colored filter and the circular overlay with the crosshairs as they follow the rangers of the night, leaping fences and garbage cans, dropping to their bellies beside the poured concrete flower beds. “There he goes!” “Cue chase music, on three. One, two, three …”
“I’m an urban guerilla I’m a [something in the night] …” as the Hawkwinders flail on their guitars and drums. Followed by our favorite, “Shot down in the Night! Shot down in the night! Shot down like an animaal …”
By George I think we’ve got it. I’ll have my people call his people, we can do lunch. I’ll give you full credit but we split the residuals 50/50. Deal?

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 21:59 utc | 9

jonku
deal

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 22:01 utc | 10

but we have to find a gig for george clinton & the funky fellahs – perhaps as an ending with people like us with bags over our head down guantanamo bay way
the only bad thing for us jonku – is no doubt rupert murdoch, praise be to him! bleesings be upon him! – will probably want us to go the same tailor as o’reilly & hannity – & that’s not good, not good at all

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 22:05 utc | 11

Better theme music: Fear’s “I don’t care about you, Fuck you”–it’s a kind of love song.

Posted by: slothrop | Jun 17 2005 22:06 utc | 12

hey you guys….better give delillo his cut, OK?
____
or, maybe that was the ghost of Fred Silverman

Posted by: RossK | Jun 17 2005 22:09 utc | 13

jonku – while your peeps are on the phone, see if they get any interest in another unreality show that i’m working on called ‘theocracy island’

Posted by: b real | Jun 17 2005 22:11 utc | 14

b real
i think you might have run that one past me – is that where – all the gods – fight it out until the real god is left standing or bowing or kneeling, whatever
or is that the one where televangelists compete against each other on a number of levels; how many bucks they can bring in, who has the worst haircut, who has the worst taste in costumes – who can create the gaudiest church – who can create a credible crisis when they are caught with their pants down with a girl or a sheep named dolly
or is it the one where you have to find the scariest, really the scariest, scariest source in the scruptures to scare the living bejesus out of that paying public
b real – think we will have to have a merger – then a consortium – first you buy off that prosecutor down new york way – promise him the world or rikers or both

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 22:19 utc | 15

Tell me more, b real. We can pitch them all at the same time, get a product tie-in (Taser? Depends? Johnson & Johnson?)
“When my boys come home, I bind their wounds with Band-Aid brand plastic strips. Now in non-caucasian!”
We’ll need scripts, treatments, costumes. I know, rg. God forbid the unholy tan suit of summer. Maybe we could do black boots, pants and serapes a la Clint Eastwood. Dusty. Little cigars! Perfect. The more important the bad guy is, the bigger the cigar! And the crew-cut heroes are clean, straight edge. Christian rock, non-alcoholic beer. Soy milk.
Slothrop, if that’s the song I’m thinking of, it’s in. Again, “we don’t care what you say — Ka-Boom!” [SFX: IED explosion] That way there’s no profanity and we can target the primetime not-yet-spoiled 8 to 11 year-old demographic.
A manly prayer session before each mission, some alone, some in twos and even threesomes. The sports metaphor, one hand on top of another until they “break!” and run to the field, tugging on their macho flak vests and cool sunglasses and night vision thingamajigs, the tiny logos just visible for a second: RCA, GE, GM.
It’s a no-brainer, a barnburner. The other guys don’t stand a chance. We are the future of entertainment!

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 22:30 utc | 16

This is how they do it:
Eroding freedom Ordinance by ordinance law by law secret file by secret file rider bill by ridder bill This, “I am moral, because everything I do is legel is bullshit, everything Hitler did was legel do not forget that. Martin Buber’s observation that “[o]ne cannot in the nature of things expect a little tree that has been turned into a club to put forth leaves” rings true here, we have lost our republic and democracy this is a slow motion coup d’etat,the complete take over of the United States of America! Thanks to our coin operated congress whom gave us up.
Look up Executive Order l2333
“The President has the power to seize property, organize and control the means of production, seize commodities, assign military forces domestic and abroad, call reserve forces amounting to 2 1/2 million men to duty, institute martial law, seize and control all means of transportation, regulate all private enterprise, restrict travel, and in a plethora of particular ways, control the lives of all Americans…
Most [of these laws] remain a a potential source of virtually unlimited power for a President should he choose to activate them. It is possible that some the President could exercise this vast authority in an attempt to place the United States under authoritarian rule. Of course it could, and he is as we are seeing on the defensive which makes him and his gang like caged animals and very very dangerous! Would they pull something like that? YOU KNOW THEY WOULD! YOU FEEL IN IN YOUR BONES YOUR WHOLE BEING KNOWS IT.
Having said that here is a dairy post that lasted about ten minutes over on kos, it slipped off the page by people bitching about trivial things. How trivial is this:
Stripping Whistleblower Protections
The House version of the Federal Employee Protection of Disclosures Act includes a provision that would give the president authority to exempt any agency that primarily performs “foreign intelligence, counterintelligence activities or homeland security” from whistleblower protections. ” The Bush administration is already doing everything it can to prevent insiders from stepping forward to recount its gross incompetence. Look at the shameful treatment of former FBI translator Sibel Edmonds, or the way the attack machine came down on former Treasury Scty O’Neill.
http://www.dailykos.com/story/2005/6/17/153445/123
Forgive the rant, but I feel I am growing manic and losing it watching this slow motion train wreck, but obsessivly I can’ seem to stop.

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jun 17 2005 22:31 utc | 17

“but we have to find a gig for george clinton & the funky fellahs”
maybe a funk version of jimmy cliffs ‘i shot the (general)sheriff’ for the guantanamo scene.
what about opera??

Posted by: annie | Jun 17 2005 22:31 utc | 18

Hey, RossK! You want in?
Maybe you can set up the mandatory drug testing for all cast and crew, and arrange the booster shots for the bad guys. I want their eyes popping out of their heads! Got that? Evil, depraved, erratic, just plain scary. I don’t care how much it costs just make them MEAN!
We’ll also need to go on location … where can we get sets that scream “realistic!” No corny palm trees or coconuts, we need something new, spanking. The Dead Sea, Chernobyl. See what I mean? Where’s that chemical spill, India? They speak English, sort of. We’ll start there. Then the mountains. Goats, horses, yurts. Cow manure. I want realism!
Next thing, we need more titles.
Urban Guerilla, starring remeberinggiap in his greatest performance ever. “You will believe!”
Theocracy Island, written, produced and directed by b real with a cast of dozens.
Name That Toxin! details to be revealed in a press conference at Ground Zero, NYC.
Keep those ideas coming, everyone …
A music show, “Dance, Motherfucker!” Shot in front of a live audience! Real-time feedback as you get to vote for your favorite!

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 22:43 utc | 19

“what about opera??”
When the fat lady sings again for life on this beautiful blue marble, as she has several times in the last 4.5 billion years, chances are she’ll be singing “Monster” bathed in a nukyular glow.
Once the religious, the hunted and weary
Chasing the promise of freedom and hope
Came to this country to build a new vision
Far from the reaches of kingdom and pope
Like good Christians, some would burn the witches
Later some got slaves to gather riches
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
And once the ties with the crown had been broken
Westward in saddle and wagon it went
And ’til the railroad linked ocean to ocean
Many the lives which had come to an end
While we bullied, stole and bought our a homeland
We began the slaughter of the red man
But still from near and far to seek America
They came by thousands to court the wild
And she just patiently smiled and bore a child
To be their spirit and guiding light
The blue and grey they stomped it
They kicked it just like a dog
And when the war over
They stuffed it just like a hog
And though the past has it’s share of injustice
Kind was the spirit in many a way
But it’s protectors and friends have been sleeping
Now it’s a monster and will not obey
(Suicide)
The spirit was freedom and justice
And it’s keepers seem generous and kind
It’s leaders were supposed to serve the country
But now they won’t pay it no mind
‘Cause the people grew fat and got lazy
And now their vote is a meaningless joke
They babble about law and order
But it’s all just an echo of what they’ve been told
Yeah, there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watchin’
Our cities have turned into jungles
And corruption is stranglin’ the land
The police force is watching the people
And the people just can’t understand
We don’t know how to mind our own business
‘Cause the whole worlds got to be just like us
Now we are fighting a war over there
No matter who’s the winner
We can’t pay the cost
‘Cause there’s a monster on the loose
It’s got our heads into a noose
And it just sits there watching
(America)
America where are you now?
Don’t you care about your sons and daughters?
Don’t you know we need you now
We can’t fight alone against the monster
Words and music by John Kay, Jerry Edmonton, Nick St. Nicholas and Larry Byrom

Posted by: gmac | Jun 17 2005 22:56 utc | 20

Sorry for setting off this tangent on a fine post. I had no idea. The creatives should be working on the Non Disclosure Agreement and the contracted 1ies instead of the upfront fluff being retailed. The true creativity is in the back ends and front ends. And I don’t think marxxism is based on the sanctity of the contract, which can be as easily used for good as evil. The implicaton is the proper response to the Republican NDA party lie is to say they are contact liars, and truth is wholly irrelevant to their response, and everyone knows the response is by contracted liars and the real issue is power over the State.

Posted by: razor | Jun 17 2005 23:11 utc | 21

jonku
feels so good!
praise be to rupert murdoch! may the blessings be with him!
yes i can feel that videoconference riiiiiight nooooow. we’lll cover the waterfront
imagine – each new invasion better than the last!
no more pissant grenadas!
no more dillydallying in panama!
we get the real thing!
perhaps i’m wrong jonku but i’m hearing country & western when we do the syria gig – hear the tanks on the golan heights ô lordy pump that water! yes i’m sure i hear country & western – surely something with hats on
iran – that liberache & cher – for sure – we want bug & we want teeth & we want ass – tattoed or otherwise – & boy do we want troops
ô yes jonku
i dig those prayer sessions
& each fellah sponsored by some business
H for halliburton
B for bechtel
charlton heston – is he still alive – gun in hand – in any case dead or living – hes good for a scene or two – of just retribution to the evildoers
tell me if i’m wrong jonku but i’m seein a wall of marching girls with the big b & the big M on their butts – facing ten division or the iranian national guard – we cut to promo – you’re building a bunker – think Bechtel – back to the mullahs…
but i’d like a postmodern thing with our hero rumsfield talking about knowing not knowing knowing knowing not knowing knowing – like a loop – but very respectful of course – as the iranian divisions begin to plough the territory
go!go!go!go!

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 23:12 utc | 22

dig the riff razor
see jonku about the contracts
but again you’ve inspired me razor. another series ‘smash the state’ – where a little latin american people build a nation & we watch them do it – & then we come a destroy it – like we’ll do down venuezala way. think there’s a market there
but talk to jonku
hell i’ll ake an mba down harvard way if it’s necessary & jonku can arrange, the contracts, the lies or the state

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 23:17 utc | 23

so the crew from ‘cops’ are back at it again – in iraq – with the boys going go! go! go! go! in perfect english as they storm the compound of another arab evildoer – they are all evildoers certainly – but those with compounds – they are really, really bad
– rememberinggiap
perhaps we could get a series going, ‘urban guerilla’ – where the forces of the state bag everynight an enemy of the state prepared to do evil(in the name of ideology , of course) – i can imagine the intro now – a little bit of mc5 & the tactical squad dressing up – the bad guys(me & me)or(i & i as the rastas would have it) – projected on the wall with my rap sheet & known confederates
– rememberingggiap
This is priceless. Visual. Funny on many levels, and the “known confederates” part could be a spinoff into yet another series, with John Poindexter as the “non-cigarette smoking man” in the shadows.
Go big! Roll it all up!

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 23:25 utc | 24

Okay, so if it’s gonna be a blockbuster, you gotta start big, a full-on campaign. We can get that guy Reston who did Gulf War I, with the incubators.
Build from there, watch the Nielsons, keep something in reserve for sweeps week. Then we let ’em have it! Theatrical releases, video games, McDonald’s cups and give-aways. Characters from Gulf War I and the Early Republican Years guest on the new series, with a special appearance by Ronald Reagan, who actually didn’t die in the closing scene of the last season — like Professor Moriarty he clung to a branch at the edge of the cliff.
Then the grand finale: a massive (I mean MASSIVE) airdrop of Duracell battery powered portable televisions which all play the same show, and as the people stare up into the the sky, the screens mirror what they see above and around them, black helicopters block out the sun like a swarm of locusts, seven legions of gasoline and diesel powered trucks, humvees, strykers and battle tanks (all GM of course) roar in from all directions, and, once again, the classic line echoes from the bullhorns:
“Go, go, go! On the ground! On the ground!”

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 23:37 utc | 25

[fade to black]

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 23:38 utc | 26

the compounds bit – i must admit i appropriated from reading the so called ‘rescue operation for the australian ‘hostage’ – read on the agecom. au – read as one of the ten newsites i read every day – but there they -(the americans & australians attacked a compound belonging to a respected tribal leader who has been helping – the french & the italians) by all accounts a disaster – aa tragicomic disaster
where you can hear the go!go! go!go! & an absolute absence of connection with the reality
however modest our efforts jonku i don’t think we can come up with the kind of absurdity, savagery & incompetence on the scale we are seeing. it is clear even from reports that are sympathetic to them – that they fuck up & fuck up on a scale that would have outdone buster keaton
& then this other situation with the fragging of he two officers by their saergant & no doubt he will be accused of homicide in a place where homicide is developing its own culture amongst the occupiers & occupied
& someone mentioned – the criminalisation of war – of police action – not new – what the british did in ireland – to hide the politcal nature & consequences of that struggle
& because criminality makes good tv
respectfulluy jonku

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 17 2005 23:39 utc | 27

Thanks for indulging me rg, it was impossible to resist the chance to mock the absurdity of our mediated input, yet I agree we can never match those masters of the imaginary.
I cannot imagine what it must be like to be hungry, cold and in fear for the lives of my family, in the company of the dead. To guess leaves me chilled. To think about it freezes me. So then to mock the mockers gets the blood running again.
For us, then, to watch, learn and remember.

Posted by: jonku | Jun 17 2005 23:55 utc | 28

the stories murdoch & his minions tells are so false, so untrue, so unconnected as blake would say with living things hat fro us in these darkest hours to find fury in our humour & for me to find humour somewhere within my fury that sometimes risk to disable me altogether
& given the nature of this thread – i know we were condemned to being pertinent
amité

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 18 2005 0:04 utc | 29

Awwwww, heck.
I missed it!
Maybe I can make like Eleanor Coppola and make the Hearts of Jonku’s Giapatistas coda version of the thing.
.

Posted by: RossK | Jun 18 2005 4:12 utc | 30

with a big tip of the hat to the razorians of course.

Posted by: RossK | Jun 18 2005 4:13 utc | 31

@ razor, jonku and rgiap:
why is it, reading this exchange, that the theme song running through my head is
“Team America, F*!k yeah!”
But, back to Billmon’s original post, I’ve been thinking for some time that the Murkan public has been trained to absorb repetitive, non-sequitur “plots” via habitually bad writing on most TV series–work up to a season-end cliffhanger, wait through the reruns, watch the denouement several months later, after which the ongoing plot ignores whatever was just revealed. (OK, I was a disappointed “X Files” watcher–how many “mythology” revelations were unceremoniously dumped so that the series could continue?) I grew up reading books, where plots have to hold up to repeated readings and study. The video world, reruns be damned, assumes the viewer has no memory of what came before, or at least doesn’t care.

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 18 2005 4:28 utc | 32

that was me, the disgruntled X Files exfan.
(no TV in the house for 4 years–sheer heaven)

Posted by: catlady | Jun 18 2005 4:32 utc | 33

oh well. anyone got a use for a ‘rapture suit’? never been worn…

Posted by: b real | Jun 18 2005 4:33 utc | 34

Times they a change, whilst some things just stay the same …

THE CIA AND THE MEDIA
How America’s Most Powerful News Media Worked Hand in Glove with the Central Intelligence Agency and Why the Church Committee Covered It Up
BY CARL BERNSTEIN
In 1953, Joseph Alsop, then one of America’s leading syndicated columnists, went to the Philippines to cover an election. He did not go because he was asked to do so by his syndicate. He did not go because he was asked to do so by the newspapers that printed his column. He went at the request of the CIA …

Or

Operation MOCKINGBIRD is well documented
The Subversion Of The Free Press By The CIA
You could get a journalist cheaper than a good call girl, for a couple hundred dollars a month.” – CIA operative discussing with Philip Graham, editor Washington Post, on the availability and prices of journalists willing to peddle CIA propaganda and cover stories. “Katherine The Great,” by Deborah Davis (New York: Sheridan Square Press, 1991)
As terrible as it is to live in a nation where the press in known to be controlled by the government, at least one has the advantage of knowing the bias is present, and to adjust for it. In the United States of America, we are taught from birth that our press is free from such government meddling. This is an insideous lie about the very nature of the news institution in this country. One that allows the government to lie to us while denying the very fact of the lie itself …

Posted by: Outraged | Jun 18 2005 12:12 utc | 35

Communism didn’t work because it ended up being run by people just like the ones we are complaining about in the US.
Socialism works best with free and fair elections.

Posted by: doug r | Jun 18 2005 15:50 utc | 36

Outraged- thanks for the bernstein rolling stone article link. i’ve searched for that article online many times over the last few years & never found it outside a fee site.

Posted by: b real | Jun 19 2005 5:50 utc | 37

R’Giap and Jonku,
I couldn’t quite join in the fun with you all, because I had a sick feeling we were all actually behind the curve. Sure enough, the show will be broadcast in the U.S. starting next month – it is made by Steve Bochco (who made the cop dramas “Hill Street Blues” and “NYPD Blue”) and is called Over There.

Sky One nabs Bochco drama ‘Over There’
April 12, 2005
LONDON — Sky One has picked up hard-hitting Steven Bochco drama “Over There” from Twentieth Century Fox Television Distribution, it was announced Monday. The deal was announced jointly Monday at MIPTV by Sky One and Twentieth Century Fox Television Distribution. The drama series looks at Army life in wartorn Iraq and will debut on Sky One in the fall. It will debut in July on the FX Network in the U.S. The U.K. deal follows an announcement that “Over There” will debut in the international markets exclusively on pay TV. Other pay TV operations that have signed up include Sky Italia, Premiere in Germany and Canal Plus in France.

Hollywood Reporter scroll down

from the executive producter of NYPD Blue Steven Bochco, finally a drama about the lives of soliders fighitng in the gulf. it looks great, i think it will be very cool to see a drama about soliders who are over there fighting as you watch each episode.

Banshee at the MovieWeb Forum
Anyone still care to bet on the theme music?

Posted by: citizen | Jun 19 2005 6:25 utc | 38

citizen
saw that too
wept
our ‘humour’ is not sufficiently; dark
but i thank jonku especially for offering
a moment of légéreté in these extremely dark times
some release from the constant barrage
of the reckless machine of empire burying our dignity
& our lives

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jun 19 2005 12:49 utc | 39