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May 4, 2005
Open Thread 05-44
News, views, opinions plus a link to the elder one.
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As Nugget pointed out in the last Open Thread:
Justin Raimondo wrote a good piece about this case of Israel spying in the US last year. Matt’s post over at Today in Iraq is worth a read today (warning quite long). Posted by: Friendly Fire | May 4 2005 16:54 utc | 2 Matt at Today in Iraq takes apart the “Mission Accomplished” speech. Excellent. Brown: Iraq invasion was about national economic interest Posted by: Nugget | May 4 2005 17:37 utc | 5 I understand the US economic interests in grabbing Afghani/Iraqi/Iranian/Caspian oil. The british economic interests are less clear to me. Doesn’t Europe already get Caspian oil access via Russia? Or does that exclude the UK? Posted by: gylangirl | May 4 2005 18:45 utc | 6 @gylangirl – @Glynagirl, I think BP lost some wells in Iraq, or otherwise wants a piece of the action. It was just as much about oil for Britain as it was for xUS. Posted by: jj | May 4 2005 19:40 utc | 8 Brown speaking the truth….. ouch Tony Blair. Posted by: Friendly Fire | May 4 2005 20:02 utc | 9 another surreal day Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 4 2005 20:05 utc | 10 & berlusconi performing before the mirror before he performs before his parliament which is more or less the same thing – will explain how calipari while listening to a d of iron maiden did not notice friendly american forces always willing to lend a hand, a leg, a head, whatever, bodies Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 4 2005 20:07 utc | 11 Top-shelf social theory from great minds in the Texas legislature
Posted by: slothrop | May 4 2005 20:54 utc | 12 gylangirl – see my debunking of the Afghan oil/pipe stories here
(Is Norway in Europe? Posted by: Jérôme | May 4 2005 21:30 utc | 13 & another two kids murdered by the israeli army in cisjordanie Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 4 2005 22:23 utc | 14 i don’t know why i am so astonished that franklin – the israeli spy & pal of rumsfield arrest has received so little comment – there is a small article in le monde en ligne Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 4 2005 22:37 utc | 15 Wonder if Karen Kwiatkowski will weigh in on Franklin, w/whom/under whom I believe she worked. Posted by: jj | May 5 2005 3:10 utc | 16 Rice congratulates Iraq’s Chalabi on political comeback Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 3:20 utc | 17 on the franklin story, gorilla in the room has some pertinent questions for self-respecting members of the media to ask. Posted by: b real | May 5 2005 3:28 utc | 18 IMHO the bloodbath is not over yet, not by a long shot. The vietnamese were lambs compared to the arabs; after what the US has done/is doing everyday, I’m sure there’ll be a reckoning. Posted by: Lupin | May 5 2005 8:45 utc | 19 and then there is that notorious loooooong memory. remembered everyday. Posted by: anna missed | May 5 2005 9:42 utc | 20 U.S. may allow nuke strikes over WMD Posted by: Blackie | May 5 2005 11:45 utc | 21 From Financial Sense market wrap for 5/4/05:
A new investment option for your private account. Posted by: lonesomeG | May 5 2005 12:24 utc | 22 ô what a lovely war Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 13:30 utc | 23 nothing about the loscal elections in occupied palestine which the hams will win decisively Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 13:47 utc | 24 ô common law Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 13:49 utc | 25 @blackie – nukes: merci nugget for the habermas Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 14:41 utc | 28 For rgiap: a photo (9 of 10) of your namesake at the recent celebrations in Ha Noi. Posted by: Dismal Science | May 5 2005 14:57 utc | 29 merci dismal science for the photo of uncle still alive & vigorous after all these years Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 17:06 utc | 30 When your death squads spin out-of-control: Iraqi commando battalion pulled out of Samarra: US officers say battalion of Iraq’s elite commando troops withdrawn from Samarra for looting, torching houses Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 17:14 utc | 31
Posted by: b real | May 5 2005 17:25 utc | 32 US, Iraqi forces hold nine journalists on suspicion of aiding insurgents Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 18:09 utc | 33 well well well what a surprise – he law is the law is the law Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 18:35 utc | 34 thx b, hadn’t seen that. Posted by: Blackie | May 5 2005 20:10 utc | 36 b & jérôme Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 20:12 utc | 37 AIDS drugs were tested on hundreds of foster children in the United States during the past two decades by government-funded researchers who often failed to provide the children with basic protection outlined by federal law and required by some states, the Associated Press reported. Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 20:29 utc | 38 asia times online covers the AQ arrest
Posted by: b real | May 5 2005 20:34 utc | 40 jérôme Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 5 2005 21:24 utc | 41 Congress to force agencies to identify video news Posted by: b real | May 5 2005 21:56 utc | 42 One wonders what could be worse than a ‘loss of morale’ among suicide bombers. Don’t get these guys depressed. Posted by: biklett | May 5 2005 22:13 utc | 43 LONDON – Tony Blair won a historic third term as prime minister Thursday but his Labour Party suffered a sharply reduced parliamentary majority in apparent punishment for going to war in Iraq, according to projections based on exit polls. Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 22:49 utc | 44 Bush OKs demotion of Abu Ghraib general Posted by: Nugget | May 5 2005 23:09 utc | 45 One wonders what could be worse than a ‘loss of morale’ among suicide bombers. Don’t get these guys depressed. Posted by: FlashHarry | May 5 2005 23:37 utc | 46 The World Health Organization (WHO) said yesterday that it had detected a case of the crippling polio virus in Indonesia, indicating that an outbreak rooted in Africa has leapt the Indian Ocean…. Posted by: Nugget | May 6 2005 1:39 utc | 48 Posted by: Nugget | May 6 2005 2:21 utc | 49 Posted by: Nugget | May 6 2005 3:43 utc | 50 George Galloway elected: Posted by: biklett | May 6 2005 4:22 utc | 51 Posted by: fauxreal | May 6 2005 5:06 utc | 52 American Christians expelled from their church for supporting Democratic Party Posted by: Nugget | May 6 2005 6:05 utc | 53 Anyone for a bona fide “smoking gun”? Posted by: JMF | May 6 2005 12:25 utc | 54 Doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t know, and it’s hearsay evidence. In any case, impeachment is a political process and will not happen until the Democrats have a majority in the US House of Representatives or Bush becomes so unpopular that the Republicans jettison him to save their hides. Don’t hold your breath. The best coffee you ever had was not by Starbucks:
Reno lyrics
Also RIP: Andre Gunder Frank. Posted by: Dismal Science | May 6 2005 14:55 utc | 57 Got it. The work of Andre Gunder Frank remembered: Posted by: Dismal Science | May 6 2005 15:27 utc | 58 Civil Rights Commission Closes 2 Offices Posted by: Uncle $cam | May 6 2005 15:49 utc | 59 I am told: “You’re a tax-and-spend liberal democrat. People like you are the reason everyone else votes for guys like Reagan or George W.” @b, I don’t understand what your objection is to Starbucks not playing songs about sexual intercourse. Sex is used as a primary distraction in this country and reducing that is all to the good. The problem is rather that political discussion is not being fostered. Posted by: jj | May 6 2005 19:56 utc | 61 @jj- Posted by: biklett | May 6 2005 20:29 utc | 63 Mr Blair acknowledged that the Iraq war had been “deeply divisive” but said he believed people wanted to move on. Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 6 2005 20:33 utc | 64 @jj – if you read the Springsteen lyrics of “Reno” you will find that it´s a quite sad song that speaks – in my understanding – against prostitution. upps – Microsoft just retracted: “Should any political party attempt to abolish social security, unemployment insurance, and eliminate labor laws and farm programs, you would not hear of that party again in our political history. There is a tiny splinter group, of course, that believes that you can do these things. Among them are a few Texas oil millionaires, and an occasional politician or businessman from other areas. Their number is negligible and they are stupid.” Posted by: catlady | May 6 2005 22:50 utc | 67 nice find catlady
b, I don’t agree at all. Starbucks doesn’t sell music, it sells coffee. If China-Mart refused to sell it, that would be a serious problem. Or if Starbucks refused to play a song because of it’s political content, I would agree. Posted by: jj | May 7 2005 4:33 utc | 69 Does anyone here actually get the NYT hard copy? If so, would you pass along how they’ve featured or not the Scoop coming out of Britain affirming what we’ve know all along – elites decide what they want to do then create justificatory “facts on the ground” to manufacture consent – this one about Iraq invasion. Posted by: jj | May 7 2005 4:39 utc | 70 A.I.P.A.C. Policy Conference 2005: Washington, May 22 -24 Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 5:27 utc | 71 Bernhard, any info you can share from the German press would be greatly appreciated?? Posted by: jj | May 7 2005 5:41 utc | 72 jj Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 6:08 utc | 73 Nugget, the article states: Posted by: jj | May 7 2005 6:28 utc | 74 jj Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 6:59 utc | 75 The Democrats and Iraq Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 7:00 utc | 76 @jj – Starbucks isn´t just coffee:
No Coffee Break Here Financial Sense has an extensive (streaming radio) interview with John Perkins author of “Confessions of an Economic Hit Man”.
Doesn’t tell us anything we didn’t know, and it’s hearsay evidence. … Posted by: JMF | May 7 2005 13:14 utc | 79 Most detainee abuse reports don’t qualify as torture – Gonzales Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 17:35 utc | 80 CIA to move domestic division out of Washington Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 17:46 utc | 81 just scanned the journals & i found out that the british won the 2nd world war at tobruk & in the battle of britain Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 7 2005 20:55 utc | 82 Karpinski demoted for Abu Ghraib, right? Wrong – she was busted for stealing a $22 bottle of perfume Posted by: Nugget | May 7 2005 23:28 utc | 83 Who Beat Hitler?; Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 8 2005 0:14 utc | 84 Captured Al-Qaeda kingpin is case of ‘mistaken identity’ Posted by: Nugget | May 8 2005 2:28 utc | 85 Gul: We decided to accept request by the U.S. to use Incirlik base Posted by: Nugget | May 8 2005 4:02 utc | 86 U.S. international death squads plans developing nicely: Larger special operations role being urged on Marines Posted by: Nugget | May 8 2005 5:02 utc | 87 U.S. soldier lifts lid on Camp Delta
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. Posted by: Nugget | May 8 2005 5:40 utc | 88 The Frank Rich column – may help to recover a little from the frutration of reading Nugget’s links (but thanks for them).
Posted by: Fran | May 8 2005 6:27 utc | 89 another bioscientist dies Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 8 2005 13:07 utc | 90 history schmistory Posted by: remembereringgiap | May 8 2005 15:01 utc | 91 Wow, this must go over great with Bush’s Muslims friends – well if not, it sure is a great ad for Bin Forgotten!
Posted by: Fran | May 8 2005 17:05 utc | 92 |
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