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May 28, 2005
Editors Without Backbone

The New York Times editors bow deep to the Pentagon to make it easier for DiRita to screw them. To understand how deep they bowed, I had to read this slowly and twice:

NYT – Editors’ Note

A front-page article yesterday reported on an American military inquiry’s finding that guards or interrogators at the Guantánamo Bay detention center in Cuba "mishandled" the Koran in five cases. The headline exceeded the Pentagon’s characterization, saying that the investigation revealed "harm" to the Koran. The Pentagon did not give specifics of the mishandling, so it was not known whether a Koran was actually damaged.
NY Times – Corrections, May 28, 2005

The article the editors’ note corrects was headlined:

Inquiry by U.S. Finds 5 Cases of Koran Mistreatment

and included this quote from Pentagon spokesman Lawrence Di Rita:

"And so what we’re trying to make sure people understand is that the impression they ought to have is that the guards, the interrogators, the command down there have been extraordinarily cautious, and yet there have been instances where inadvertent mishandling has occurred or other types of mishandling,"

DiRita said this in a the official Pentagon press conference. The transcript of the press conference is titled DoD News Briefing on Koran Mishandling Allegations. In the same  transcript you will also find one inquiring General Hood who says:

"We found that in only five of those 13 incidents, four by guards and one by an interrogator, there was what could be broadly defined as mishandling of a Koran."

Let me repeat what the NYT editors’ note on the correction page says:

1. ‘Our headline did exceeded the Pentagon’s characterization.’

2. ‘The headline said the investigation revealed "harm" to the Koran.’

3. ‘It was not known whether a Koran was actually damaged’.

No 1 is factual false as the DiRita and the Hood quote on record shows. The NYT headline did in no way exceed the Pentagon’s spokesmen. It is a nearly verbal quote of General Hood;

No 2 is factual false as the neither the headline nor the article mentions anything about "harm" to the Koran being revealed through the Pentagon;

No 3 is irrelevant as neither the headline nor the article suggest that a Koran was actually damaged.

Last weekend Newsweek did a double non-retraction retraction. During the following days we learned, that the Newsweek story was correct, but for one small detail. This was a huge embarrassment for the administration, but after the retraction even more for Newsweek. One would expect other media to learn from this and not to cave in to Pentagon bullying as easy as Newsweek has done. But to cave in is exactly what the NYT editors do.

If the New York Times really worries about loosing readers, they should print the truth and, when the truth is spinned, their interpretation of it marked as such.

The original article is correct, as is its headline. The overruling editors’ note is not the truth. It is factual false on several points or irrelevant.

If the editors of the New York Times really worry about correct statements (and if they have any backbone left,) they need to print a correction of their false statements. Otherwise, they better look for new jobs. Readers will not pay for being lied to over and over again.

Comments

This is a brilliant commentary on the Newsweek retraction fiasco from The New Yorker magazine: http://www.newyorker.com/talk/content/050530ta_talk_hertzberg
I recently cancelled my subscription to the New York Times after years of increasing disgust with the poor quality of their reporting on Iraq and on politics in general, and their awful editorial judgment.

Posted by: maxcrat | May 28 2005 20:15 utc | 1

But “mishandling” is “harm” (as is “damage”). The Pentagon seems to be choking to death on its own testimony. Rumsfeld isn’t clever any more, he’s just plain worn out. Finished. Dead, politically speaking. The occasion of his biological demise will be a kind of tautology.

Posted by: alabama | May 28 2005 20:20 utc | 2

I was disappointed with Hertzbergs piece in New Yorker: his govt criticism is way too soft and way too late< plur he ended with the sentence: We"ll lose sight of what we"re fighting for< and< little by little< become the mirroe of what we"re fighting against (keyboard refuses to operate properly tonight) It appears to me that Hertzberg has no idea what we are fighting for or against _ just that Bushco is failing in making its case _ duh

Posted by: rapt | May 29 2005 1:41 utc | 3

Just as “beauty is in the eye of the beholder”, harm to an object of religious significance is in the intent of the abuser.
You can’t determine the damage done to a Bible, Torah scroll or Koran by looking to see if the cover has been scuffed or a page dog-eared. Wilful disrepect (and there is no doubt about that, regarding the Koran here) in itself is damage.
However, we are dealing with smoke and mirrors here. The big question is not whether guards sat on, spat on or shat on their prisoners’ books. The questions are the on-going atrocities committed in the name of the American people to realize an ill-concieved plane to create a world-wide hegemony (such a fancy word for “conquer the world”!)
“…to save the world and win a corny peace
all the world must be fried in bacon grease…”

Posted by: BarfHead | May 29 2005 1:56 utc | 4

I cannot help but think that the reporter at Newsweek was used to stop the release of pictures showing boys being raped by Iraqi guards, and women being raped by American soldiers.
If there is such an uproar over the treatment of the Koran…
…and thus, the American public is once again diverted…because, let’s face it, most of them do not like Islam as an “idea.” Like all prejudice, it can be sorted in someone’s head..yes, the guy I know is okay, but all the rest, those over there shouting at us, the ones who killed Americans on American soil…
So Bush, et al once again can apply pressure not to release those pictures. When it becomes clear that abuse has happened in prisons across Iraq and at Gitmo, and when Americans see soldiers who have raped a woman with seemingly no repercussion…because it wasn’t on the news…and then to know our allies raped children (probably American soldiers did too.)
Anyway, cynic in me sees this as ploy to stop worse revelations from making it into print, or to have the videos available.
The ACLU just got rights to view pictures…but I don’t know if the administration is allowed to continue to file petitions to stop the release, etc.
It seems that when the photos of Abu Ghraib came out, someone beheaded Nick Berg. I’ve never known who did that. I hate to be so cynical as to think that it might be an ally, but with BushCo, I have been shocked and disgusted by their actions so many times, I think they’re just as capable of something like that as they are of the death of Ronnie Moffit.

Posted by: fauxreal | May 29 2005 2:11 utc | 5

When the fotos of the execution of Nick Berg came out, a number of people examined the background and suggested that it took place in Abu Ghraib; in truth, the white plastic chair could have been anywhere. It is telling, however, that so many people concluded that his death was our doing. Just one more outrage to be investigated properly sometime in the (not too distant?) future.

Posted by: Brian Boru | May 29 2005 2:42 utc | 6

they care little about their readers. they care only about their corporate masters. f-ing media whores!
fauxreal….with cheney and rummy’s track record from the ’80’s, nothing is off limits to those pricks.

Posted by: lenin’s ghost | May 29 2005 3:31 utc | 7

In the 1970s we had a Left.
Maybe Jane Fonda in Hanoi, burning the flag in Berkley and alleged spitting on returning GIs’ faces were arguably not good ideas domestically but at least it signalled to the rest of the world that there was strong, vociferous, rabid opposition to the war in Vietnam in America.
It saved America’s soul in the eyes of many.
Today, we appear to have mostly craven opposition: John Kerry was no McGovern, Howard Dean mild as he was repudiated, to even the Kossacks on Kos.
The sacred, seemingly untouchable myth of the US never being in the wrong, its men always deserving support, thrive on.
This is a path than can only end in destruction.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 29 2005 15:04 utc | 8

that was me.

Posted by: Lupin | May 29 2005 15:04 utc | 9

Following BarfHead, well, the USuk kill hundreds of thousands of people, and the media will bruit about some trivial stuff that can speak to soccer moms and the deluded – the treatment of a holy book.
This covers up the real issues and deliberately throws people into their private space, a kind of stable world where they can only think about actions that would horrify them in their home. Chopping up the bible and blowing one’s nose in the new voile curtains are obviously the acts of deranged, disagreeable people.
How would you feel if someone sh*t on the Bible?
Or: Are Muslims that crazy? Like people dyyyed in the demonstrations just because of some cooky medieaval text? Etc. Etc.
Plenty of room for discussion.

Posted by: Noisette | May 29 2005 17:13 utc | 10

Actually I have little sympathy for religious fanatics of all ilk, be they from Islam or Evengelicals.
I think they’re clinically insane, throwbacks clinging to a time when it served an evolutionary purpose to blieve in invisible friends to explain the thuner and lightning.
Remind the Muslims who blew up those beautiful Buddha statues in Afghanistan.

Posted by: Lupin | May 29 2005 17:24 utc | 11

I think that fauxreal might be onto something here.
What if Isikoff really was peddling Kool-Aid.
I mean it’s not like he hasn’t before
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apologies if this has been discussed on other threads (have been away recently)

Posted by: RossK | May 29 2005 22:24 utc | 12

C’mon Lupin you can’t possibly believe that the people who decided to blow up the Bamiyan statues gave a toss one way or another abot Islam or Bhudda. The were trying to unite people with a classic piece of jingoism at the same time as blackmail the west into providing some of the Aid promised after the soviet withdrawal but never delivered.
The Afganis have always had a pretty mercenary attitude to that whole area. I visited it in the early 70’s and picked up some amazing bronze age artifacts (well I thought so a perfume container and a comb) for less than a dollar. The locals were digging up the area as fast as they could sell bits of it off. Now people get desperate in poverty but life wasn’t that bad in Afghanistan in those days. It was prior to the soviet invasion many of the hill tribes were doing OK out of AK47 and M16 knock offs and hashish and although the system was feudal it wasn’t nearly as bad as things would get under the Soviets,US/Mujahadeen, Taliban, and US.

Posted by: Debs is dead | May 29 2005 22:34 utc | 13

The NYT isn’t part of a free press. It’s just State propaganda on the level of Goebbels and Pravda. At this point, if NYT journalists were kidnapped or murdered in Irak, I wouldn’t care or even mind, because that would surely NOT be a violation of the freedom of press; it would just be a normal part of war where you shoot the agents and the spies of the enemy.
As Kos said, screw them.
Fauxreal: Indeed, but the trouble is that we know since more than a year that there are such photos and videos, and nothing has surfaced so far. I’ve lost all hope that the level and magnitude of the atrocities committed in Irak, and notably Abu Ghraib, will ever see the light; at least until the US has been soundly defeated and expelled from the country.
This of course should be linked to my comments above about the absence of a free press in the US – and probably in most of the Western world. They know the stuff is out there, some probably even have some of these pics, yet they choose to be quiet, to cover up the whole crime, as if they were some SS commando trying to destroy the remnants of the death camps before the Soviets or the Allies find them.
Debs: Well, the Bamyan statues were just the tip of the iceberg. They destroyed all the statues throughout the country, including the annihilation of the already massively looted Kabul museum. These guys were indeed pissed off that their blackmail didn’t work, but they were also religious nutcases, to the point I can’t say I’m particularly sorry when I read stories of Taliban being tortured or mass-murdered during the 2001-2002 campaign.
Blackie: “How would you feel if someone sh*t on the Bible?”
Yeah, so what. As if most of its comment deserved any better. I mean, it’s filled with stories of how some people is so holy that it has to genocide entire peoples and steal their lands because they don’t worship the same god…

Posted by: CluelessJoe | May 29 2005 23:45 utc | 14

I do not want to lower myself to the level of those I find to be the worst examples of “humanity.” I do care if people die, whatever side they are on.
don’t lose your humanity because of the horrors…I think that was one of the lesson of the concentration camps in WW2, even while people did horrible things in order to live. Victor Frankl talks about his experiences with degradation in the camps in Man’s Search for Meaning.
Yes, we have known for more than a year that the photos are there…but that “we” is not the majority of Americans, imo. The ability to deny, without the physical or photographic evidence, is the easiest way to deal with the decisions made so that “you” can feel safe. Sad but true, too often.
Sy Hersh has some of the photos. He’s discussed often that the New Yorker did not release more of them because of the horrors that just the first photos contained…Hersh has said, they were also sensitive to the sensibilities of the men, women and children who had suffered so, or whose family members had suffered.
Those pictures were enough to have the House investigate. But the House is controlled by the Bush hallelujah chorus, so nothing happens. People in America file charges in Germany…what’s happened there? –most people consider it a publicity stunt…some sort of ridiculous attempt at political theatre…people here do not believe that this country is guilty because they think Muslims treat people as badly as the prisoners have been treated, and because people ignore both the Red Cross and Gen. Taguba’s report that 70% or so of the people in Abu Ghraib, for instance, are innocent of any crime.
I don’t think people here can quite “get it” –that our nation is committing atrocities in our name. Those who do get it are news junkies..and one side supports the actions while the other side is appalled.
Yes, I do think that all of the American media, at least the biggies, have given over any claim to independence from the govt. because of the “war” that will never end, if BushCo has any say in the matter.
If the link on tbrnews from the open thread has any validity at all, there is no greater issue that should get rid of Bush, Cheney, Rummy, Rove, etc. than the rape and murder of innocents.
Have we now killed more Iraqis than Saddam ever did? Or are we close enough? The people who cited Saddam’s cruelty as a reason to support this invasion (people people, not govt or talking heads) were so naive. Those are the same people who now do not believe anything we are doing rises to the level of crimes against humanity.
In honor of memorial day, I wore a tee shirt today that has Bush’s head on a pez dispenser. Each pez says “lie.” I wanted to make people uncomfortable and remind them of the lies that have put so many, from both sides, in their graves on this holiday.
People were obviously uncomfortable, and some were hostile. Some also silently agreed by their nods. I was only running errands at the hardware store and things like that, but it’s those sorts of “reminders,” like the Medea Benjamin and others getting up and re-enacting the photo of the prisoner with electrodes attached to his body, that force people to have to see what they don’t want to see.
Not that most of them will then, either.

Posted by: fauxreal | May 30 2005 2:35 utc | 15

“I don’t think people here can quite “get it” –that our nation is committing atrocities in our name”
Well, this is the main reason why the entirety of these atrocious pics ahve to be released, all together at once. To show just how low the US Army and govt have sunk. Frankly, Hersh is a nice guy doing great job, but he should realise by now that if he really wants the war to end and the US troops to withdraw, having all the pics out there in the open is probably the best and quickest way. It will either outrage the US people so much that they’ll ask for Rummie’s head and for these crimes to stop, or the Muslim and Arab masses will be so pissed off (not to mention the rest of the world) that the US will be kicked off out of Iraq by force – or both could happen at the same time. Whatever, it is in my opinion a *duty* to show to the worldd the complete and entire truth about the criminal behaviour of the US occupation; of course, patriotism would imply that you shouldn’t do this, because the consequences would be really bad for the US as a whole, but then it would just means that, once again, patriotism is tantamount to war crime.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | May 30 2005 7:49 utc | 16

Joe, my question “how would you feel if someone sh*t on the Bible” was sarcastic, an example of the kind of o-so-clever rubbish that gets discussed when children’s brains are being splattered on pavements.

Posted by: Noisette | May 30 2005 8:01 utc | 17

I’m another one who doesn’t “get” the crime in flushing a Koran down the toilet. It seems pretty mild to me – a victimless action. I don’t understand the concept of ‘desecration’ – it appears you first have to buy into the concept that objects can be sacred to swallow the notion that one can then de-sacred-ize them by some physical action. (Or some “intent” as one poster noted.) I do understand that other people, perhaps describing themselves as ‘people of faith’ do ascribe magical properties to objects – but the mere act of belief in the earth’s flatness does not make it so, nor does a believer’s reverence for his rosary make it any less a chain of beads to me. The fact that the jihadis have a supersticious attachment to some paper products is a weakness in them, and I don’t see any harm in exploiting it. The problem for the Christian Fascist movement (is Republicans) is that they have similar weaknesses.

Posted by: Muqadas | May 30 2005 12:30 utc | 18

Well, in some senses I’d agree with you, Muqadas. It is all a bit silly – like worrying about how flags are treated and other voodoo.
On the other hand, it is abusive because of the effect it has on people, and it is incredibly stupid in a geopolitical context.
Is it ok to tell a prisoner that you’ve killed his wife in order to get information from him? Nobody was really hurt, it’s just his emotions you’re screwing with, no big deal, right? Flushing Korans and desecrating communion wafers are in the same class of act. Just because it’s nonsense doesn’t stop it being abusive.
Politically, it was guaranteed to piss off ordinary muslims everywhere even more. Not the brighest move ever.

Posted by: Colman | May 30 2005 12:50 utc | 19

I agree with Colman about the Koran incident.
CJoe- When I say “don’t get it” I mean, I suppose, denial. People have to deny (and ignore in order to deny) to support their belief system…that the US is doing “good.”
People do not want to think their country is doing the sorts of things that have rallied the nation, in the past (and present) against others. So they find all sorts of ways to either justify or ignore.
Hersh talked about the question of how much humiliation should be inflicted upon Muslim males, regarding the photos, because of their culture’s mores about nudity…for men too, not just women.
also women who have been raped…if they were identified, it would be the equivalent of a death sentence in some families…honor killings to protect the reputation of a family. Some of the women in Abu Ghraib, it was reported, sent messages asking their families to bomb the prison so they would die.
But as you say, on the other hand, to hold back the photos means you are also protecting those who are responsible for the atrocities (I mean rape and murder, not flushing the Koran) as well as those who were in the prison.
I am of the opinion that the photos and videos should come out because BushCo needs to be stopped. On the other hand, people will argue that their actions have prevented acts of terror. I don’t know if that statement is true or not, but, again, like I said above, people will ignore horrible things in order to feel safe.

Posted by: fauxreal | May 30 2005 14:12 utc | 20

The photographs represent crimes. They must be released, and the law must not be used to prevent it.
The “Koran flushing” matters because it proves this is a war against Islam. A Crusade.
Sy Hersch is a brave man doing dangerous work. Only he knows how dangerous. We should respect his judgement.

Posted by: John | May 30 2005 22:18 utc | 21