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March 10, 2005
Open Thread 05-26
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whoa, this whiskey bar gets shriller every day. Posted by: MarcinGomulka | Mar 10 2005 19:41 utc | 2 Iraq
a ton of very dry wood for conspiration fires… I actually disagree. Posted by: Lupin | Mar 10 2005 19:52 utc | 4 The sun revolves around the Earth and George W. Bush won the election in Ohio
Posted by: beq | Mar 10 2005 20:01 utc | 5 @ b: “extra security provided by the U.S. Army to protect U.S. Ambassador John Negroponte.” Posted by: beq | Mar 10 2005 20:06 utc | 6 Re Iraq- At what point does it become clear that the only surviving Iraqis who are cooperating with the Americans are really working for the insurgents? Posted by: biklett | Mar 10 2005 20:10 utc | 7 Negroponte travels to and from the Green Zone by helicopter. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Mar 10 2005 20:13 utc | 8 Got to agree with Lupin here- Bush is symptom. Posted by: Brian Hurt | Mar 10 2005 20:16 utc | 9 @Lupin – agreed Hersh has a Pulitzer winner Hersh gives skeptical outlook on Iraq
Wasn´t that a “checkpoint” before? Now it is a “mobile patrol” of “security for Negroponte” who can get a heli anytime he requests one? Berlusconi will get squezed on this as the Italiens demand answers and responsibility and the U.S. will not give those in sufficient form and depth. Pilots group grades U.S. aviation security an ‘F’ Posted by: Duct tape cannot save you | Mar 10 2005 21:31 utc | 14 whoa, this whiskey bar gets shriller every day. Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 10 2005 21:55 utc | 15 Putin achieves similar results to Bush in his own ‘war on terror’ Posted by: War on error | Mar 10 2005 22:37 utc | 16 Children said among Abu Ghraib prisoners. Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 10 2005 23:59 utc | 17 UN’s Annan takes veiled swipe at US anti-terrorism tactics Posted by: Nugget | Mar 11 2005 1:04 utc | 18 We don’t want no steenkin’ furrin langwijjez around here Posted by: Polyglot | Mar 11 2005 3:05 utc | 19 Posted by: The enemy within | Mar 11 2005 4:28 utc | 20 I have found out an interesting graph with the title World Rotary Rig Count. Posted by: Greco | Mar 11 2005 8:19 utc | 21 Iraqi forces dying at twice rate of U.S. military Posted by: Freedom is messy | Mar 11 2005 8:20 utc | 22 Disappeared In America Posted by: Uncle $cam | Mar 11 2005 9:04 utc | 24 Iraq war compels Pentagon to rethink big-picture strategy Posted by: The Big Picture – Doctor Strangelove | Mar 11 2005 11:41 utc | 25 I bring you … the Masters of all Shrillness … The Fafblog!
Posted by: MarcinGomulka | Mar 11 2005 12:17 utc | 26 Taking a quick left… Posted by: Og | Mar 11 2005 13:06 utc | 27 ‘Eyes Wide Open’ brings war into focus Posted by: kat | Mar 11 2005 14:59 utc | 28 Former Biden staffer sentenced to prison for campaign-fund theft
…interesting Posted by: beq | Mar 11 2005 15:38 utc | 29 @ polyglot. check out the survey results at your NBC link to the foreign language story. Notice how they split the vote counts of the ‘not a problem’ responses into 2 categories; but give the ‘english-only’ crowd only one selection? As designed, that category of votes is blowing away the others. Posted by: gylangirl | Mar 11 2005 16:13 utc | 31 IMF expects Iraq to pay 1/3 oil earnings in debt service Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 11 2005 19:20 utc | 32 dear Moon of AL: @rkent – Four U.S. army drill sergeants charged with abuse – of recruits Posted by: Where Abu Ghraib begins | Mar 11 2005 22:27 utc | 35 A law school blog………….. zzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzzz Posted by: Cloned Poster | Mar 11 2005 22:31 utc | 36 Have a look at the sixth picture on this Link. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Mar 11 2005 22:35 utc | 37 Muslim workers walk off job in dispute over prayers Posted by: Whither or wither pluralism? | Mar 12 2005 0:53 utc | 38 Talon News resurgent in new dress, Gannon / Guckertless and Google bombing Posted by: Renaissance | Mar 12 2005 1:08 utc | 39 Tom Whitney, writing for the San Francisco Bay View, translates an article from Il Manifesto published on March 3 in which a US Marine is interviewed and admits he and other marines have murdered and continue to murder civilians in Iraq. He implies that the US military has reason to be unhappy with Il Manifesto and therefore would have had motive to attack Sgrena and her rescuers. Don’t know anything about the SF Bay View, and, unfortunately, the marine will most likely be dismissed as “delusional” but the article does confirm much of what many here have been saying about the US military. Posted by: conchita | Mar 12 2005 3:56 utc | 40 Posted by: Monty Python’s Homeland Security | Mar 12 2005 4:45 utc | 41 U.S. general, 3 other officers investigated for Guantanamo sex misconduct Posted by: Thong clad, mini skirted interrogator | Mar 12 2005 5:35 utc | 42 Posted by: The revenge of James Yee | Mar 12 2005 6:57 utc | 43 This should be posted to the Screw Up or Plan? thread, but I’ll throw it in here: Posted by: Pat | Mar 12 2005 8:02 utc | 44 Barbara Fast cleared in Iraq torture probe, promoted. Posted by: Pulling a Fast one | Mar 12 2005 9:35 utc | 45 Fast cleared in torture probe, promoted. Posted by: Pulling a Fast one | Mar 12 2005 9:36 utc | 46 US forces partially informed about Italian intelligence mission in Iraq: report Posted by: nacl | Mar 12 2005 9:45 utc | 47 It’ all part of the plan, the “sleepers” don’t get it. This excellent diary was post over at Kos and got a scant six comments, three of which were mine, before going bye bye, and this is most certainly what people need to know above all. I thought I’d bring it over to moon, and let you guys tweak it… Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 12 2005 11:58 utc | 48 @Thor (06:58 AM) Posted by: DM | Mar 12 2005 18:27 utc | 49 I assume that those phones have logs at both ends, nacl, and if they’ve been tampered with, the Italians will notice this right away. Posted by: alabama | Mar 12 2005 18:58 utc | 50 I assume the phones have logs at both ends, nacl; and if they’ve been tampered with, the Italians should notice this right away. Posted by: alabama | Mar 12 2005 18:59 utc | 51 I assume the phones have logs at both ends, nacl; and if they’ve been tampered with, the Italians should notice this right away. Posted by: alabama | Mar 12 2005 19:00 utc | 52 @Pat Posted by: DM | Mar 12 2005 19:18 utc | 55 Analysis / Report highlights the ugly occupation. Posted by: Remembering Zion | Mar 12 2005 20:56 utc | 56 US Marines open probe into February 27th 2005 assaults on Iraqi detainees Posted by: More bad apples | Mar 12 2005 22:16 utc | 58 The supposed attempt at killing Sgrena and the justifications opponents to the war have put forward make no sense at all. Reports about the use of banned weapons in Fallujah by the US have been quite plentiful. Previous, in Iraq, also. Posted by: Blackie | Mar 12 2005 22:38 utc | 59 clash of civilisations Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 12 2005 22:42 utc | 60 “Giuliana Sgrena wasn’t the first Italian hostage to be liberated by the praised work of Nicola Calipari. As described by my colleague, he had also negotiated the freedom of Simona Torretta and Simona Pari, who, after their return to Italy, denounced the U.S. military as a brutal occupying force, called for the return of the 3,000 Italian troops stationed in Nassariya in southern Iraq, and heaped praise and words of support upon the Iraqi resistance fighters. It seems the last thing the Americans would want is an Italian negotiator working, against their wishes, to release journalists and human rights workers effectively exposing the atrocities of their illegal war. More insidiously, it seems that the Americans might view these actions by a junior partner in the Terror War as a punishable affront, using the murder of Calipari as a lesson to those wishing to play a small role on America’s imperial stage. Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 12 2005 22:50 utc | 61 Valentina Nicoli Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 12 2005 22:56 utc | 63 Vietnam Fury at Agent Orange Case Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 12 2005 23:08 utc | 64 Army Details Scale of Abuse of Prisoners in an Afghan Jail Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 12 2005 23:11 utc | 65 Remembering Zion — Posted by: Blackie | Mar 12 2005 23:13 utc | 66 Clash of civilizations: Posted by: Blackie | Mar 12 2005 23:26 utc | 67 The defeatist, demoralized and demoralizing posts here are counter-revolutionary. The deification of bourgeois writers who betrayed the revolution for a life of vol-au-vents, petit bourgeois posturing and fat royalty payments is a counter revolutionary act. The maudlin, cowed posts attributing omnipotence to the twin beasts of capitalism and imperialism are just smokescreens for capitalist propaganda. Through structural manipulation of the semi-modulated quasi-ideological bios, true Marxist-Leninist ideas are being subtly edged out of mainstream discourse. Therefore, the actions of these fifth-columnist imperialist lackeys serve to ensure that the innate potential of ‘Moon of Alabama’ is subverted, revolutionary acts and principles are derided and discouraged and the neutered and hijacked blog functions as a willing implement of the totalitarian status quo. Posted by: Diehard | Mar 13 2005 0:14 utc | 68 Media/perception manipulation – a long piece by NYT: News or Public Relations? For Bush It’s a Blur
alphabet of our destiny Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 1:00 utc | 70 Ah, Diehard, you’ve caught on to our little game here! All things hitherto posted at Moon of Alabama were just a warm-up, an ushering-in, of the GREAT REVOLUTIONARY ACT that you performed so finely @ 07:14 PM on 12 March, 2005. Nothing will ever be the same…. Posted by: alabama | Mar 13 2005 1:04 utc | 71 perhaps you were tright the other month – my dear alabama- that i do have something in common with bush – that i do not do irony Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 1:14 utc | 73 & perhap because a crude explanation is in order Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 1:32 utc | 74 Benjamin, 1938:
Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 2:19 utc | 75 slothrop Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 2:27 utc | 76 Telling the truth is not always the revoltionary act. Who here denies the counter-revolutionary problem is people believe too much? Even among people like myself who imagine utopia think too much and highly about the presentiments of collapse, the “logic” of capital accumulation and the “end of oil,” etc. Example: the MoA obsessions about macroeconomy and resource sustainability. Who fucking knows? I think jdp in another thread said it pretty well: what benefits elite power? If you only ask and answer this question, the social totality is comprehensible and the pain of life discernable as a symptom of plainly understood domination. This simple warning is the duty of revolutionary rhetoric. Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 2:57 utc | 77 The ACLU is determined to get the truth out about torture by the US military and prosecute those responsible. It just released a new set of by US Marines in Iraq and suggest a culture of secrecy surrounding it. Abuses include: Posted by: conchita | Mar 13 2005 3:22 utc | 78 Lots of interesing stuff to read this morning.
Seems as if the WaPo is shifting its position toward Bush. Not only in the article, but also in the use of the pictures. Look at the picture that goes with the article and then remember when they pictured him with a halo!!! quite a shift. WaPo is using pictures for probaganda in I way I have not seen with the NYT or other newspapers. I remember during the primaries they always used a picture of Dean looking like a real imbecile, then after the scream and after loosing the first primary, when it became clear that Kerry is the candidate they switched to a picture with a nice looking Dean. Now they seem to be doing the same thing in reverse with Bush.
International law starts to bring Washington back into the fold
Posted by: Fran | Mar 13 2005 7:07 utc | 79 Wow, somethings seems to be shifting – very interesting article in the NYT about Bush propaganda. Its 8 pages!!!
Posted by: Fran | Mar 13 2005 7:20 utc | 80 Last one bevor heading out to enjoy a beautiful sunny day.
Posted by: Fran | Mar 13 2005 7:52 utc | 81 Shi’ite-Kurdish talks to form Iraq government fail. Posted by: Big purple finger | Mar 13 2005 10:42 utc | 83 Under Bush, a new age of prepackaged television news Posted by: Nugget | Mar 13 2005 11:13 utc | 84 thank you conchita – for your continually reminding us how the enlightenment brought forth monsters & how the empire uses torture not as an aide but as a central element of their occupation of other countries Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 14:26 utc | 85
Posted by: conchita | Mar 13 2005 18:36 utc | 86 hey, comrade slothrop (and anyone else who is listening) — Joe Bageant sounds like he is on the edge of a nervous breakdown, but still challenging us:
Bageant on class, race, the Heartland, globalisation, and the failure of pwog/liberal strategy in the US. always interesting. deanander Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 19:56 utc | 88 conchita Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 20:01 utc | 89 in a war of anhilation there are no errors Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 20:04 utc | 90 BAGHDAD, Iraq (CNN) — Two Americans working for a company that provides security for the U.S. Embassy were killed by a roadside bomb south of Baghdad, the embassy said Sunday. Posted by: remembereringgiap | Mar 13 2005 20:11 utc | 91 See: Shit like this. Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 20:42 utc | 92 Actually, okiebyaccident is our o’reilly. Pat should be network director of programming standards & practiuces to make sure lefty sentiments are not too querelous. Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 20:47 utc | 94 deanander can do liason stuff: grow the greenroom snacks and make sure all underwriters are prounion, antisweat. Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 20:52 utc | 95 rgiap, you are in charge of sunday nfl programming. Posted by: slothrop | Mar 13 2005 21:00 utc | 97 Telling the truth is not always the revoltionary act. Who here denies the counter-revolutionary problem is people believe too much? Posted by: Giordano Bruno (1548-1600) | Mar 14 2005 3:23 utc | 99 Collapse of the talks on forming a new Iraqi government: The standoff plays into the hands of interim Prime Minister Iyad Allawi, whose cabinet could now remain in a caretaker role until a general election due at the end of the year Posted by: Big purple finger | Mar 14 2005 5:16 utc | 100 |
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