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February 24, 2005
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Transcript of Ward Churchill’s Feb. 8 speech at the University of Colorado. how activism grows out of claiming a community,
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Posted by: Citizen | Feb 24 2005 20:05 utc | 1

Now, Colorado ed. employees are required to sign and notarize an oath to the Constitution. Apparently, nobody ever signed the thing, but after the Churchill affair, some uppity Regent demanded compliance.
Weird.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 24 2005 20:18 utc | 2

I presume tenured CU faculty can just tell the university to stick it. But, untenured folks, adjuncts, TAs are screwed.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 24 2005 20:22 utc | 3

after reading the transcript from Citizen’s link I get the impression that our own r’giap and Ward Churchill might have great discussions.
Perhaps we can arrange a meeting…..

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 24 2005 20:42 utc | 4

Well, I kept an open mind looking at this picture about great soulmates! Can you keep an open mind?

Posted by: Fran | Feb 24 2005 20:49 utc | 5

Oh boy, Canadians will love this, hope they really have an open mind.
From the Globe and Mail:
Canada refuses further role in missile defence

The formal announcement Thursday that Canada will refuse any further participation in the controversial U.S. missile-defence shield was met with an immediate warning that Canada had given up its sovereignty.
Although Prime Minister Paul Martin said Canada would “insist” on maintaining control of its airspace, U.S. ambassador Paul Cellucci warned that Washington would not be constrained.
“We will deploy. We will defend North America,” he said.
“We simply cannot understand why Canada would in effect give up its sovereignty – its seat at the table – to decide what to do about a missile that might be coming towards Canada.”

Posted by: Fran | Feb 24 2005 21:04 utc | 6

I have trouble with that picture Fran. I grew up practicing Civil Defense drills, hiding under desks, taking cover in fall-out shelters and being told over and over again that Russians want to kill us all.
To see the POTUS in such a tight embrace with the leader of the “evil empire” (another POS US president named Reagan gave us that term) is just weird.
Which one is worse? I bet if you flipped a coin for the answer it would land on its edge.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 24 2005 21:15 utc | 7

From todays WaPo Pentagon Seeking Leeway Overseas

The Pentagon is promoting a global counterterrorism plan that would allow Special Operations forces to enter a foreign country to conduct military operations without explicit concurrence from the U.S. ambassador there, administration officials familiar with the plan said.

The change is included in a highly classified “execute order” — part of a broad strategy developed since Sept. 11, 2001, to give the U.S. Special Operations Command new flexibility to track down and destroy terrorist networks worldwide, the officials said.
“This is a military order on a global scale, something that hasn’t existed since World War II,” said a counterterrorism official with lengthy experience in special operations.

The State Department and the CIA have fought the proposal, saying it would be dangerous to dilute the authority of the U.S. ambassador and CIA station chief to oversee U.S. military and intelligence activities in other countries.

Other officials cited another case to illustrate their concern. In the past year, they said, a group of Delta Force soldiers left a bar at night in a Latin American country and shot an alleged assailant but did not inform the U.S. Embassy for several days.

1. This is a fight between Rumsfeld and Rice and I expect Rumsfeld to win. He would have world wide uncontrolled ability to kill whoever he wants to.
2. What is this other case in the last graph? Does anybody know where this happend?

Posted by: b | Feb 24 2005 21:15 utc | 8

dan of steele,
I had the same thought about wc and rg. crossed fingers and all…

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 24 2005 21:23 utc | 9

Well, Dan I have been thinking about the picture. Maybe we just project to much into it, maybe it was just a simple Man Date!

Posted by: Fran | Feb 24 2005 21:24 utc | 10

fran- here’s what that pic immediately brought to mind

Posted by: b real | Feb 24 2005 21:25 utc | 11

b,
that might be hard to find, my guess would be Colombia.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 24 2005 21:27 utc | 12

An interesting piece from Chris Floyd.
the center is rotten to its well-wadded, self-righteous, wilfully ignorant core
It is this center — which prides itself on being sensible, moderate, decent and respectable — that has become morally corrupted beyond measure, perhaps beyond remedy.
Worth reading I think. For me, there is something of an ah-ha insight to this diatribe. The answer to why it is that ‘they’ are able to remake the world in their own psychotic image, and why ‘we’ may not be able to stop them.
I don’t know. If the core is rotten, is it even possible for the edifice to come crashing down, to settle as a pile of debris within it own footprint?

Posted by: DM | Feb 24 2005 21:37 utc | 13

why ‘we’ may not be able to stop them.
Because “we” are terminally marginalized by mass media. It’s really that simple.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 24 2005 21:46 utc | 14

I’m sitting here watching an RTÉ show about the Chechen conflict. Pooty-poot might not be inviting them over for dinner any time soon.
Should be available on the web later at:
http://www.rte.ie/news/primetime.html
Torture, disappearances, murder, security force involvement. All that good stuff. Pretty graphic too. This is the main Irish current affairs programme. I can see how Bush and Putin might have things in common.

Posted by: Colman | Feb 24 2005 22:13 utc | 15

If I were a Christian, I’d have to guess that Christ wouldn’t continence lying about His Father’s breathtakingly beautiful handiwork. I don’t think I’d be able to stand by silently while people deceived their fellow Christians and counseled them to disregard His ingenuity and His scientific skill. I wouldn’t guess Christ would like folks dissing the fact that God is the most brilliant scientist imaginable, who created an ancient and vast cosmos full of splendors. A Creator who employed complex processes such as evolution, geology, astrophysics, and chemistry, operating over oceans of time, unfolding through countless steps, to produce this glorious Star studded Universe and ourselves, is a God worthy of worship. I would happily point out the caliber of scientist and artist God is, and note how His scientific capability far exceeds the scope of the most gifted intellects among mankind. I’d explain that God can Create however He Chooses to Create.
Unscrewing the Inscrutable contemplates speaking to neo-fundamentalist creationists

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 24 2005 22:17 utc | 16

BTW, that link is not just about science – e.g.,
If I were Christian, I’d have to guess that Christ, who was after all beaten to a bloody pulp and then nailed to a cross to die a horrible, lingering, death, for our sins, wouldn’t think very highly of a party, a faction, a group, or a President, that thinks they should be able to legally whisk people off to torture chambers in foreign third world shit-holes run by sadistic barbaric throw backs, with no trial or charges ever held for them!

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 24 2005 22:21 utc | 17

Krispy Kreme announces criminal probe
“Shareholders have also alleged that executives intentionally padded sales figures to hide the fact that doughnut sales began declining in early 2003.”
War is hell.

Posted by: Is nothing sacred? | Feb 24 2005 23:47 utc | 19

Anglican Church asks U.S. and Canada to leave

Posted by: Back to fundamentals | Feb 24 2005 23:50 utc | 20

Thanks for that link, Citizen.

Posted by: beq | Feb 24 2005 23:51 utc | 21

@CP – those contracts will change nothing. The US is loosing in Iraq on a scale not seen since Hitler lost in Stalingrad. Robb has some hints and it is obvious that there is no chance of “winning” in Iraq. The question is only how to minimize the damage now. That will be a hard nut to crack.

Posted by: b | Feb 25 2005 0:03 utc | 22

U.S. says ‘thousands’ of missiles missing
Missing? Just wait until they start hitting.

Posted by: Blowback | Feb 25 2005 0:07 utc | 23

PRIMATES TO BE SURE, BUT NOT OF THE HIGHER ORDER APPARENTLY

Posted by: Groucho | Feb 25 2005 0:41 utc | 24

Citizen: Many thanks for the Churchill speech link. First, I thought it would “never get rolling”, then I simply couldn’t put it down!
Lots of good stuff there. I greatly admire Churchill’s 9/11 essay, and his unwaivering courage of conviction displayed since then. Plus, I found a uniquely personal reason in that speech to intuit a real spiritual affinity with the man:
… Frankly, I don’t consider these guys to be Republicans. There’s an ‘N’ word, ending in ‘i’ that I think is more appropriate, but hey, I use that analogy too often. [laughter, applause] …
I agree. 🙂

Posted by: JMF | Feb 25 2005 1:04 utc | 25

Citizen: Many thanks for the Churchill speech link. First, I thought it would “never get rolling”, then I simply couldn’t put it down!
Lots of good stuff there. I greatly admire Churchill’s 9/11 essay, and his unwaivering courage of conviction displayed since then. Plus, I found a uniquely personal reason in that speech to intuit a real spiritual affinity with the man:
… Frankly, I don’t consider these guys to be Republicans. There’s an ‘N’ word, ending in ‘i’ that I think is more appropriate, but hey, I use that analogy too often. [laughter, applause] …
I agree. 🙂

Posted by: JMF | Feb 25 2005 1:04 utc | 26

That photo of Dubya and Pooty makes me think that maybe rapt has a point about ETs taking over at the top…

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 25 2005 1:05 utc | 27

“Do I, Rummy, actually ever know anything? Of course I don’t.”
(scroll past Tom’s “update” for the yummy rummy part. The “update” is interesting too, though I take issue with the “each of those prisoners has 9 close family members and friends” part – there is surely much overlap among all these sets of 9 Iraqis)

Posted by: OkieByAccident | Feb 25 2005 1:06 utc | 28

Excellent link Okie. Thanks – because I don’t have the stomach to follow Rummy’s denials from day to day. I’m glad somebody else has that job. Now who will take it to the next level and ask in a public way why this asshole hasn’t been impeached. OK if not him then his boss.

Posted by: rapt | Feb 25 2005 3:25 utc | 29

@De
Rapt DOES have a point; you can bet on it. (Thanks for the recognition.)

Posted by: rapt | Feb 25 2005 3:44 utc | 30

translating rummy: “i don’t know” –> “i don’t care… now leave me be so i can get back to killing people and maximizing my portfolio.”

Posted by: b real | Feb 25 2005 4:03 utc | 31

In psychology this is called projection. Bush warns Russian leader to respect democratic values – US president acknowledges ties with Russia have weakened

Mr Putin has been accused of bullying opposition and the media and asserting Kremlin authority over legislators. Domestic criticism is rare, though yesterday a former prime minister, Mikhail Kasyanov, said Mr Putin’s Russia was on the wrong track and democratic values such as an independent judiciary and media and a free business climate had not been allowed to flourish.

b real, thanks for the cartoon.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 25 2005 4:22 utc | 32

Fran, that is one creepy photo. But it’s interesting how the emptiness in Bush’s eyes is different from the emptiness in Putin’s. W looks like he’s hiding the underlying insecurity of the bully; Putin just looks dead.

Posted by: Leslie in CA | Feb 25 2005 4:28 utc | 33

Sydney Blumenthal in the Guardian: Lost in Europe – President Bush has reached a dead end in his foreign policy, but he has failed to recognise his quandary

President Bush has reached a dead end in his foreign policy, but he has failed to recognise his quandary. His belief that the polite reception he received in Europe is a vindication of his previous adventures is a vestige of fantasy.
As the strains of Beethoven’s Sixth Symphony, the Pastoral, filled the Concert Noble in Brussels, Bush behaved as though the mood music itself was a dramatic new phase in the transatlantic relationship. He gives no indication that he grasps the exhaustion of his policy. His reductio ad absurdum was reached with his statement on Iran: “This notion that the US is getting ready to attack Iran is simply ridiculous. And having said that, all options are on the table.” Including, presumably, the “simply ridiculous”.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 25 2005 4:36 utc | 34

Leslie, I agree with you, the scary part is, that these two empty shills are two of the most powerful men in the world. However, Bush to me doesn’t look to me so much like hidding the bully, as trying to hide the vast empty space between his ears.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 25 2005 4:40 utc | 35

I dunno… when I saw that photo of Bush and Putin, I thought it was a still from a Saturday Night Live sketch. You know, like a few seconds later, Bush would push, and it would turn out that an actor dressed up as Cheney was kneeling behind Putin, or something equally droll… it just has that kind of feel to me.

Posted by: Blind Misery | Feb 25 2005 5:02 utc | 36

Someone needs to teach W how to tie a tie. Compare with Putin’s… I think Georgie is doing the knot.

Posted by: jeff | Feb 25 2005 5:29 utc | 37

Great Photo, Fran – but are we supposed to find the heterosexual in the photograph?

Posted by: jj | Feb 25 2005 5:31 utc | 38

My local newscast on the Pope’s health had the briefest of flashes of that scene where the Pope shooed away a dove the other day. Such a cliche image of a soul taking flight made me suspicious that the Pope is already dead.
“Now, let’s not get all tinfoil” I thought to myself. Then two news items later they announced that the Archdiocese is closing a raft of Catholic churches. Holy crap…
the Pope may really be dead.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 25 2005 6:08 utc | 39

sorry, not Catholic churches closing, Catholic schools.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 25 2005 6:09 utc | 40

In “Foreign Policy” Stephen Roach is deconstructing the Greenspan monument.

History cautions against rendering a premature verdict on the accomplishments of any one economy, or any one central banker. When Alan Greenspan arrived at the Fed in the late 1980s, Japan and Germany dominated the world economy, and the United States was down and out. Over the last 20 years, the fickle pendulum of economic prosperity swung the other way, as the United States redefined the very concept of global economic leadership. Greenspan will be a tough act to follow. But his success was as much an outgrowth of history as it was a reflection of any one person.

Posted by: b | Feb 25 2005 12:55 utc | 41

Let’s not forget that Greenspan and Baker have a big responsibility in starting the 1987 crash. He learned his lesson after that, or he’s terribly lucky.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Feb 25 2005 14:17 utc | 42

he’s baaaaaaack!

“If you thought I was going to slink away – then you don’t know much about me. Someone still has to battle the Left and now that I’ve emerged from the crucible, I’m stronger than before.”

Posted by: beq | Feb 25 2005 14:52 utc | 43

what makes guckert think the left fears him, as his banner states? he’s a bit of a blowhard, isn’t he. their fighting back will only draw more attention to the issue, which doesn’t bode well for the administration. bring it on. there was an article yesterday on newsday pointing out the 9% increase in public affairs personnel hirings in govt positions since 2000, also covered in this usa today article from the end of january listing bushCo first term pr expenses of $250 million.
“if we understand the mechanism and motives of the group mind, it is now possible to control and regiment the masses according to our will without their knowing it…” -edward bernays
not so fast… the guckert case makes a good door jamb for opening up public discussion of state propaganda and should function to keep the admin spin doctors occupied for a while. it also helps to distinguish which msm are simply corporate media & which are solely state media…

Posted by: b real | Feb 25 2005 15:42 utc | 44

“now that I’ve emerged from the crucible”
What a tool. That was just the first round.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Feb 25 2005 16:11 utc | 45

beq
is the gannon site a joke or is it another infamy to pile up with all the other infamies

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 25 2005 16:14 utc | 46

now this is weird… in the top of the hour news feed on the pacifica radio stream i’m listening to was a report that talon news has shut down for now b/c it’s owners say that they are getting negative feedback on their biases. at the same time, i closed the moa ‘democracy in action’ tab in my firefox browser and lo & behold, there’s a tab open for talonnews.com, which i did not open, have not searched on & have no idea how it got there. i merely thought about checking it out to see what their statement is, but didn’t have anything open which would link to that site. too weird…

Posted by: b real | Feb 25 2005 16:16 utc | 47

and i was listening to the radio stream on a completely separate machine that i surf on. am on a company intranet behind a good firewall. wtf?

Posted by: b real | Feb 25 2005 16:22 utc | 48

After a several day long refractory period, Gannon announces –
My faith and my ideology are rock solid.
Thank Koresh for that! I mean, if dirting on the flag and the USMC can’t inspire a man with rock solid faith and ideology like stones, what could? I for one am happy G/G won’t be hanging up his spurs.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 25 2005 16:31 utc | 49

what gannon imagines as faith is fear speaking through threnodies of panic that he will be found dead in a hotel room like so many others of his kind before him
what he imagines as ideology is nothing but that borrowed & badly thought out babble thar seeps through the sewers & comes out of the mouths of cretinous commentators of ‘official culture’
if i was gannon – i would not sllep in the same place twice – & would hope there is an option to selling fruit somewhere in uzbekistan under another assumed name like roy cohn

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 25 2005 16:37 utc | 50

http://www.editorandpublisher.com/eandp/columns/pressingissues_display.jsp?vnu_content_id=1000817453

In his column, Guckert claims that during his two-year tenure as a White House insider, “I developed some good friends there who welcomed the refreshing perspective I brought to the briefings and respected my courage for asking the questions that I did.” He doesn’t name them, which is probably OK with them.
He denounces those who found “sexy pictures” of him on the Web, which inspired “rumors and conspiracy theories.” Forget for a moment that Guckert has now refused, on half a dozen occasions (including three interviews with E&P), to deny his part in the sex-escort trade. Here he says, “Based on some of the emails I’ve received, many of these people were conflicted with hatred for my politics and tingling they experienced while viewing pictures said to be me.”
He also thanks God for his “career as a reporter” and the fact that he was “further blessed to become a White House correspondent.”
Then there’s this gem: “If I had been a liberal reporter with the salacious past now attributed to me, I would be the Grand Marshall of the next Gay Pride Parade as well as a media darling, able to give softball interviews.” Well, he is an expert on softball questions, that’s for sure.
But I have a feeling that if he’d been a liberal reporter, he would have been skewered by Fox News and branded “The Hapless Hooker” by the New York Post, two outlets largely silent about Gannongate so far.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 25 2005 16:53 utc | 51

Damn, forgot to aref…………….. preview first!!!!

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 25 2005 16:57 utc | 52

More about Gannon or is it Guckert?: here
Well, this is the last one for today, am working tonight – well, not the way you might think.

Posted by: Fran | Feb 25 2005 17:10 utc | 53

Ok. one more then I have to get going: CNN: No Plane Hit the Pentagon on 9/11 (Video) What to make of this?

Posted by: Fran | Feb 25 2005 17:26 utc | 54

Not sure what to make of it, it seems pretty clear this CNN reporter is reporting live from the scene on 9/11 and saying there is no evidence of any plane hitting the Pentagon. Im looking for anybody out there that can tell me if he later retracted this statement, or possibly track down this reporter and ask him what he meant and what he saw. If you have this info, visit my blog and let me know. Thanks.
PS-Nice blog! 🙂

Posted by: Valleri | Feb 25 2005 17:35 utc | 55

Oh, Condi into High Heals and leather. Now I understand why her hus…., ahh the President likes her.

Posted by: b | Feb 25 2005 17:43 utc | 56

Fran…Nothing much, except that it resurfaces now. The early reports from the Pentagon mentioned: no plane (e.g. Jamie McIntyre on CNN); an exploding truck (terrarist attack, this was favorite); unexplained helicopters; explosions at the P; a bomb; a small plane… Rummy himself spoke of a “missile.” (Somewhat later, actually.)
Sorry no links it is too much work and I have to watch the contents of my oven and the rest (veggies.)
The first to publicly mention Binny was Lyndon Larouche ! – as measured in seconds after the first attack.

Posted by: Blackie | Feb 25 2005 18:05 utc | 57

Giap
Gannon should have been fish food weeks ago; but he’s still alive and singing on a blog.
He must have copies of his little diaries in strategic places?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 25 2005 18:32 utc | 58

In a rush at work so no links, but xymphora linked to a Raw Story piece about how Eberle was one of the “eyewitnesses” to the “jet” hitting the Pentagon, noting how convenient and unlikely that was. Sort of like those “mobs” in Florida 2000.
(Anyone who doesn’t visit xymphora.blogspot.com regularly should, btw…)

Posted by: OkieByAccident | Feb 25 2005 18:56 utc | 59

cp
expect him to be singing to the fishes in a sicilian moment

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 25 2005 19:51 utc | 60

@rgiap I’m thinking “tragic small plane crash.” that seems to be the popular MO.

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 25 2005 20:01 utc | 61

or the contrary – given the current state of affairs he could become director of homeland security

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 25 2005 20:05 utc | 62

An interesting question from the russian press at the Putin/Bush press conference:

Q First of all, I wanted to ask another question, but we have an interesting conversation now, therefore I’m going to ask about the following: It seems to me that you have nothing to disagree about. The regimes that are in place in Russia and the U.S. cannot be considered fuller democratic, especially when compared to some other countries of Europe, for example — for example, The Netherlands. It seems to me, that as far as Russia is concerned, everything is clear, more or less. But as far as the U.S. is concerned, we could probably talk at length. I am referring to the great powers that have been assumed by the security services due to which the private lives of citizens are now being monitored by the state. This could be explained away by the consequences of September 11th, but this has nothing to do with democratic values. How could you comment on this? I suggest that you can probably agree — you can probably shake hands and continue to be friends in future.

WaPo blogger Dan Foomkin dissects Bush`s answer in a Billmon style:

“I live in a transparent country.

Cadre grows to rein in message; Ranks of federal public affairs officials have swelled under Bush to help tighten control on communiques to media, access to information, Newsday, Feb. 24, 2005; Administration Paid Commentator; Education Dept. Used Williams to Promote ‘No Child’ Law, Washington Post, Jan. 8, 2005; Groups raise concerns about increased classification of documents, GOVEXEC.com, Oct. 27, 2004.

“I live in a country where decisions made by government are wide open and people are able to call people to — me to account, which many out here do on a regular basis.

High Court Backs Vice President; Energy Documents Shielded for Now, Washington Post, June 25, 2004; Mr. President, will you answer the question?, NiemanWathchdog.org, Dec. 3, 2004; Bush Says Election Ratified Iraq Policy, Washington Post, Jan. 16, 2005 (in which Bush says: “We had an accountability moment, and that’s called the 2004 elections.”)

“Our laws and the reasons why we have laws on the books are perfectly explained to people. Every decision we have made is within the Constitution of the United States. We have a constitution that we uphold.

How U.S. rewrote terror law in secrecy; White House group devised new system in aftermath of 9/11, New York Times, Oct. 24, 2004; In Cheney’s Shadow, Counsel Pushes the Conservative Cause, Washington Post, Oct. 11, 2004; Slim Legal Grounds for Torture Memos; Most Scholars Reject Broad View of Executive’s Power, Washington Post, July 4, 2004.

“And if there’s a question as to whether or not a law meets that constitution, we have an independent court system through which that law is reviewed.

• Recount 2000: Decision Sharpens the Justices’ Divisions; Dissenters See Harm to Voting Rights and the Court’s Own Legitimacy, Washington Post, Dec. 13, 2000; Scalia Won’t Sit Out Case On Cheney; Justice’s Memo Details Hunting Trip With VP, Washington Post, March 19, 2004.

“So I’m perfectly comfortable in telling you our country is one that safeguards human rights and human dignity, and we resolve our disputes in a peaceful way.”

Torture at Abu Ghraib, the New Yorker, May 10, 2004; Ground War Starts, Airstrikes Continue As U.S. Keeps Focus on Iraq’s Leaders, Washington Post, March 21, 2003.

Go Froomkin, go!

Posted by: b | Feb 25 2005 20:26 utc | 63

Gannon is under control, an establishment shill. He is harmless alive. He knows on which side his bread is buttered. In a way, he is even an asset: Anything goes!
What the Democrats don’t understand is that sex-scandals are not pertinent – unless the powerful make hay out of them. Nobody, but nobody, really cares that Gannon is homosexual or a male escort or that he was allowed to enter the WH for two years without proper qualifications. He is a Republican, a Catholic (though that is not bruited about, he might change..), a Bush lover (ostensibly), an ex-Marine (maybe), a right thinking journalist, etc. That is good enough. Even Coulter (as I posted before) is bashing the Dems for bashing gays….
No way he will be threatened. He can run as a candidate in local pol contests, or start a TV show, be a different Jerry Springer, write books, retire – plenty of opportunities. Clever….he can play triumphant victim in many ways…

Posted by: Blackie | Feb 25 2005 22:36 utc | 64

The Churchill affair is far from over. The CU administration, kowtowing to local pressure by neomccarthyist legislators, regents and journalists, required all instructors (graduate instructors, adjunct professors, tenured faculty) to sign an to the US and Colorado constitutions.
The following story, snipped enough for copyright, reveals the relationship of the oath and the Churchill imbroglio:

CU looking for ‘loyalty oaths’
By Elizabeth Mattern Clark, Camera Staff Writer
February 22, 2005
The University of Colorado on Monday launched an examination of all faculty members’ files to see if they have signed a “loyalty oath” required by state law.
The review comes after CU officials found no such agreement in controversial professor Ward Churchill’s personnel files.
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All university teaching faculty members must sign an oath to uphold the U.S. and Colorado constitutions as a condition of employment, interim Chancellor Phil DiStefano wrote in an e-mail to the faculty Monday.
“We are concerned because there are some we’re not able to find,” prompting the review of thousands of files, CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale said.
Faculty members will be asked to sign a new oath if they don’t have one on file.

Officials said Churchill signed a loyalty oath Friday after they could not find a copy attached to the 1991 contract granting him tenure. …

Presumably, persons refusing to sign and notarize this superfluos and hectoring “oath” will be fired on Saturday, Feb. 26.
A little background to this ignominious oath: In 1921, the Ku Klux Klan dominated the Colorado legislature and required state employees to sign an oath of allegiance to the state and US constitutions. The oath was never enforced by CU through the twenties and thirties. Norlin, who was CU President through this tumultuous period, was able to thwart the legislature’s attempt to purge the university of Jewish and Catholic faculty, and the oath was never administered.
This changed in 1951 when CU president Stearns required faculty to sign a modification of the Klan oath forswearing membership to “group…which advocates…changing the form of government of the United States…” Three professors unwilling to sign the oath were forced to leave the university. Among these principled fellows was
Morris Judd who was recently “honored” by the university for the sacrifice made by him. In the sixties the CU faculty attempted to abolish the oath after the US Supreme Court struck down a similar Washington state requirement because of the law’s “vagueness.” The Colorado state legislature’s version of the present oath was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1968 (affirming Hosack v. Smiley, 276 F. Supp. 876 (1967)).
The controversy over Churchill inspired the recent requirement that all CU instructors sign, and now notarize, the stupid oath.
You can be sure the rightwing nuts giggled as they watched the CU faculty file in to the notary offices like so many cattle waiting to be branded.
It will get worse, my friends.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 25 2005 23:36 utc | 65

Ugh. screwed up the links. apologies.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 25 2005 23:38 utc | 66

The Churchill affair is far from over. The CU administration, kowtowing to local pressure by neomccarthyist legislators, regents and journalists, required all instructors (graduate instructors, adjunct professors, tenured faculty) to sign an oath of allegiance to the US and Colorado constitutions.
The following story, snipped enough for copyright, reveals the relationship of the oath and the Churchill imbroglio:

CU looking for ‘loyalty oaths’
By Elizabeth Mattern Clark, Camera Staff Writer
February 22, 2005
The University of Colorado on Monday launched an examination of all faculty members’ files to see if they have signed a “loyalty oath” required by state law.
The review comes after CU officials found no such agreement in controversial professor Ward Churchill’s personnel files.
All university teaching faculty members must sign an oath to uphold the U.S. and Colorado constitutions as a condition of employment, interim Chancellor Phil DiStefano wrote in an e-mail to the faculty Monday.
“We are concerned because there are some we’re not able to find,” prompting the review of thousands of files, CU spokeswoman Pauline Hale said.
Faculty members will be asked to sign a new oath if they don’t have one on file.

Officials said Churchill signed a loyalty oath Friday after they could not find a copy attached to the 1991 contract granting him tenure. …

Presumably, persons refusing to sign and notarize this superfluous and hectoring “oath” will be fired on Saturday, Feb. 26.
A little background to this ignominious oath: In 1921, the Ku Klux Klan dominated the Colorado legislature and required state employees to sign an oath of allegiance to the state and US constitutions. The oath was never enforced by CU through the twenties and thirties. Norlin, who was CU President through this tumultuous period, was able to thwart the legislature’s attempt to purge the university of Jewish and Catholic faculty, and the oath was never administered.
This changed in 1951 when CU president Stearns required faculty to sign a modification of the Klan oath forswearing membership to “group…which advocates…changing the form of government of the United States…” Three professors unwilling to sign the oath were forced to leave the university. Among these principled fellows was Morris Judd who was recently “honored” by the university for the sacrifice made by him. In the sixties the CU faculty attempted to abolish the oath after the US Supreme Court struck down a similar Washington state requirement because of the law’s “vagueness.” The Colorado state legislature’s version of the present oath was upheld by the Supreme Court in 1968 (affirming Hosack v. Smiley, 276 F. Supp. 876 (1967)).
The controversy over Churchill inspired the recent requirement that all CU instructors sign, and now notarize, the stupid oath.
You can be sure the rightwing nuts giggled as they watched the CU faculty file in to the notary offices like so many cattle waiting to be branded.
It will get worse, my friends.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 25 2005 23:52 utc | 67

Second time, a charm.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 25 2005 23:52 utc | 68

slothrop
you are a teacher. you posses values. they will come after you. one way or another. through silence. through comprimise. through abandoning struggle. through abandonment of contexts.
ward churchill is not giodorn bruno but the flames are the same

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 25 2005 23:57 utc | 69

ward churchill was not chosen by accident. nor the scholars at columbia & northeastern & other universities. it is no accident that ward churchill has a long history of engagement. they found a vulnerable man & he will be the first of many. that much is clear. scholars who think they are unaffected by what is happening to churchill are fools. & they will pay the price of being foolish
the dominant ideology will not be satisfied until you are on your knees or asleep
giodano bruno 1 2 3 many giodano brunos

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 0:05 utc | 70

rgiap
Nor is “They Push Back” La cena de la ceneri, but, you know, whether you praise the little people who fight back or, in Bruno’s case, the mythologies of Hermes Trismagistus, you’ll get scorched. It doesn’t matter, it could be anything, must be anything. “fuck pro football” will get your head stomped on. Whatever. “Down with the American family” will soon get you three to ten in marion. What you’re not supposed to think and say is hard to know these days.
They’re all little Eichmanns. We’re all little Winstons.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 26 2005 0:15 utc | 71

It could be violence and nonviolence
it could be white and black women and men
it could be war and peace or any
binary system, love and hate, enemy, friend,
Yes and no, be and not-be, what we do and what we
don’t do…
a man keeps pouring orange into grape
and grape into orange
forever

-Muriel Rukeyser, Ballad of Orange & Grape

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 26 2005 0:24 utc | 72

From popbitch
>> Fear and Golfing < Farewell to Raoul Duke Just prior to his death Hunter S Thompson invented a new sport, Shotgun Golf, with Bill Murray. His description: "The game consists of one golfer, one shooter and a field judge. The purpose of the game is to shoot your opponent's high-flying golf ball out of the air with a finely-tuned 12-gauge shotgun, thus preventing him (your opponent) from lofting a 9-iron approach shot onto a distant "green". Points are scored by blasting your opponent's shiny new Titleist out of the air and causing his shot to fail miserably. After that, you trade places and equipment, and move on to round two. Go out this weekend and play it in tribute.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 26 2005 0:39 utc | 73

“protest is when i say this or that doesn’t suit me. resistance is when i ensure that what doesn’t suit me no longer occurs”
fred hampton – black panther leader assasinated by chicago police

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 2:27 utc | 75

The linkage in this thread of the now completely pacified MSM w/the just beginning to be pacified University environment jumps out at me after reading up on the blueprint for the Capitalist Counter-Reformation the other night. Frightening how it’s going completely according to elite plans:
“The recommended course of action to stave off potential “crises of democracy” (which, we can see, can be read as “meaningful democracy”) was firstly to threaten media which didn’t maintain a “standard of professionalism” with state regulation, secondly to shift the focus of higher education toward the elite’s economic and political goals, thirdly to institute “a program…to lower the job expectations of those who receive a college education” and fourthly to address just enough of the demands of organized labor to keep them quiet.”
Link to synopsis of ’75 Report
Synopsis has links to Chomsky for fuller discussion of this crucial work.

Posted by: jj | Feb 26 2005 6:31 utc | 76

last time i checked in here 35 posts.i am back don’t have time to read previous (god i can’t spell any more sick of trying forgive me) i need to know how to look up a police report.and check background on a judge is this possible? my friend from the 6TH grade the year we landed on the moon has a daughter in trouble,small town,crooked court system.i am poor but only have myself and pets to take care of,her family is even more poor with lots of children.they called me because i am the only one they know who went to collage.my brain anurysm(fuck) has devestated my thought process,memory,ect.(shit i feel like,harvey was it? smart one minute rainman the next)i guess what i am asking is how to get ahold of her arrest report so i am not flying in the dark before i ask for a legal aquaintance opinion.also i remember this judge from church gossip years ago.a very nasty criminal possibly.and there are children at stake.no one we know has the money to look into or fight this,but if i can make a conection between judge and parties may be able to get another judge.again i’m sorry for bursting in i usually try to just read absorb.and i also know this is not a i”m first type of venue.but this is where i’m comfortable and its your posts given with so much thought and intellect and also emotion that lift me up and also remind me how much i lost.there was a time i could have debated most of you into a stalemate.and until i found billman by accident i was unable to even read a book,lost after the first paragraph.through a tom tomarrow cartoon i for the first time sat down at a computer,and started to exercise my brain.i can now read a book all the way through and enjoy it even if i don’t remember it a day later.So i guess you’ve realised i am manic and franic.i don’t ever mind when you all just let me rant and pass over my posts.this time if anyone can help me help someone else,i selfishly will feel useful again,and above all else i could possibly help a loyal friends daughter and grandbabies.they are in calif. i am in new orleans if it matters.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 26 2005 12:23 utc | 77

anonymous poster @ February 26, 2005 07:23 AM
give us something to work with. There are lots of people who can help run this stuff down. A very coordinated effort went on with the unmasking of Jeff Gannon a couple of weeks ago.
You might contact SusanG for help as well, you can find her email address over at DailyKos.
You should also create some kind of an email address for yourself so that people can contact you. Many people create “throw-away” addresses at hotmail or yahoo for this purpose.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 26 2005 12:57 utc | 78

anonymous
as dan of steele sd – give us something. from where i am i can aks that first you try to breathe properly – to breath properly until you feel a semblance of calm – just be patient with yourself until that moement arrives. try to have someone close to you there. through the breathing try to be calm. on a piece of paer – try to prioritise – what are the things that can be done today, immediately, then what are the things that can be done within a week or so – then write what are the longer term demands that you yourself are not capable of fulfilling. do not be promiscous with these – be discipline & be honest about what can you really do – it is not useful to have two groups of people who are frustrated
is legal aid available – do you know anybody who might know a lawyer – even the longest shot
see if there are people in your immediate circle who could help you research
but above all it is important for you & them to remain calm – even under the most difficult circumstances

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 14:15 utc | 79

after my plea for help in previous post,i went back and read what i had skipped.gannon with another site?acting as if nothing of import had happened.born again.if he doesn’t end up dead very soon he must have some really…really good shit stashed.(possibly video?,could we be so lucky).and this oath thing,i remember taking one in the girlscouts but not since.now oaths seem to be everywhere scarry.and that “mens night out” at the church,complete with uniformed officers giving speaches on how god protected them,free barbaque and hey look you can sign up here right in the church basement to kill people of another religion.in one respect i’m not opposed to sending christian soldiers off to fight this war since there seems no way to stop it.i would rather see the american taliban killed off first then we can take thier women and bring their children up properly.must better than a draft.gives the song onward christian soldiers a whole new menacing meaning.and last but not least the what hit the pentagon?the fact that the location taken out was the new improved offices of an agency older and more conected the anything rummy had control of,and also of military nature he could not totally control gives me pause. i have not heard about but a few arrests in the protests(the one in germany who had the hitler sign,which is illegal)unlike our new york protest where hundreds were rounded up.in 2000 bush said he would unite and not divide…not only has he divided our gov’t more than i’ve seen for ages,my family is no longer talking to me(i’m against america)after 15 years my best friend and i can’t speak without a wall of gloom between us,because what weighs on my mind and soul every day she boils down to lets just nuke them all.she seems to really believe with no reason everyone and country in the ME are evil islamist who hate us because we are a christian state.i showed her a picture of that little girl whose family was gunned down because they did’t stop when fired upon.i asked her if (not in a war zone even)someone started shooting her direction what would she do stop?she said of course not she would try to flee.i said yes,natural response.so looking at this picture what do you feel?…well she said someday those kids will grow up and we will just have to kill them anyway.no matter iraq had not attacked us,no matter that iraq was not unlike other ME countries and in someways not even as bad.and we put the man we are suposed to precive as evil in charge in the first place.she either doesn’t understand or refuses to see that what started as a small movement whose impossible wish to unite the entire ME against us has how become a reality.on a silver platter.since this war started my older brother who spent 5yrs in vietnam and 4 more as a paid mercenery because he had become well i cant even explain what he had become,is once again having nightmares,after 2 hours on the phone with him so am i.it happened years ago and was justified and up until now i had never though or dreamed about a time i put a knife into a rapest heart and felt the pumping of the blood over my hand,now every time i close my eyes i dream and remember what it is to personally take a life.i multiply that experience by a million and can’t imagine what this new group of soldiers will have to deal with.
it breaks my heart.

Posted by: onzaga | Feb 26 2005 14:25 utc | 80

yes breathe thankyou.have the judges name.but in spite of hometown gossip would like to read police report,not that i don’t trust my friend but mothers sometimes do not see past their love of a child.i do believe everythin is as she told me but before i go after a judge how do i get that report she said it is public record so what exactly do i google to get police report.second i need to see if there is a connection between judge and woman making the claim.and why for simple assult is there $150,000 bond.

Posted by: onzaga | Feb 26 2005 14:50 utc | 81

she is going to fax police report to me monday along with details.
thanks for your suport. once i’ve got all the info we can go from there.

Posted by: onzaga | Feb 26 2005 15:21 utc | 82

Saboteurs Strike Oil Pipeline in Iraq
Nothing extraordinary about the story, it is just refreshing to see these people referred to as what they really are….I was getting so tired of the word “terrorist” being used to describe everything.

Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 26 2005 16:03 utc | 83

Creating new Talibans: Afghans Accuse U.S. of Secret Spraying to Kill Poppies

Abdullah, a black-turbaned shepherd, said he was watching over his sheep one night in early February when he heard a plane pass low overhead three times. By morning his eyes were so swollen he could not open them and the sheep around him were dying in convulsions.
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Although farmers had noticed a white powder on their crops, they cut grass and clover for their animals and picked spinach to eat anyway. Within hours the animals were severely ill, people here said, and the villagers complained of fevers, skin rashes and bloody diarrhea. The children were particularly affected. A week later, the crops – wheat, vegetables and poppies – were dying, and a dozen dead animals, including newborn lambs, lay tossed in a heap.

The incident in Kanai was not the first time that Afghan villagers – or Afghan government officials – had complained of what they suspected was nighttime spraying. In November, villagers in Nimla, in Nangarhar Province, said their fields, too, had been laced with chemicals when a plane passed overhead several times during the night.

“Karzai lied to us,” one farmer, Ahmadullah, said. “He said, ‘We will give you assistance,’ and he didn’t. So we grew poppy to be able to feed our families. Then the president ordered it destroyed and so we destroyed it. And now he is destroying our wheat. What will be left of our lives? They destroyed everything. We will have to abandon the village.”

Th US and UK deny doing this, but who else could be flying around Afghanistan by night spraying?
The farmers will abandon their village, what will they do then?

Posted by: b | Feb 26 2005 17:03 utc | 84

The Jeff Gannon / James D. Guckert song
There he was just waitin’ for a pass,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
Somethin’ tells me McLellan likes his ass,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
He can’t write, can’t write,
Can’t spell, can’t spell,
Can’t write can’t spell
But he’s got something to sell.
Before I knew it he was sitting next to me,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
Throwin softballs,as natural as can be,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
He walked on, walked on
To the tube, to the tube
He walked on to the tube,
to give G.O.P. LUBE
Wo-o-o-oh, I knew he was working for Rove
Yes I did, and so he passed on all the docs
From the CIA trove
Now he tells lies nearly every single day,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
We’re so happy that he is in our pay,
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
I’m his, I’m his
He’s mine, He’s mine
I’m his, he’s mine,
So we’ll all conceal the crime
Wo-o-o-oh, I knew he was working for Rove
Yes he was, and he transcribed all the points
That he’d been dreamin’ of
Now we’re together nearly every single day
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
Takin’ money from G.O.P. U.S.A.
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
I’ve heard, I’ve heard
He’s fine, he’s fine
I’ve heard, he’s fine,
200 bucks and he’ll be mine
Singin’, do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
Do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?
Do-wah diddy-diddy who did he do?

Posted by: Karaoke time | Feb 26 2005 17:13 utc | 85

R.I.P. Peter Benenson

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 26 2005 17:26 utc | 86

Daniel Pipes presses on with fomenting division and hatred

Posted by: Torquemada | Feb 26 2005 17:35 utc | 87