Meanwhile, there is still an interesting discussion in the R.I.P. Hunter S. Thompson thread …
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February 26, 2005
Newsdrop? Open Thread?
Meanwhile, there is still an interesting discussion in the R.I.P. Hunter S. Thompson thread …
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Now what to make of this. Islamic Jihad is a Syrian organisation? Plain bullshit. They may be backed by Damascus, which may have greatly helped them begin to organise efficiently, but they’re not Syrians; their grievances come from the festering Palestine issue and from Israeli meddling and occupying Lebanon. Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 26 2005 23:01 utc | 2 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 23:04 utc | 3 b Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 23:05 utc | 4 don’t know why it did that unless i’m shaking Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 26 2005 23:14 utc | 5 I recall someone opining that oil contracts could be already be priced in euro on a defacto basis — priced first in euros then converted to dollars. Well, it is interesting to superimpose a chart of oil (in US$) futures and the value of euros in US$. The two move together, with oil prices shadowing the moves of the euro, albeit in a more exagerated manner. This alignment seems to have begun sometime early this year. Perhaps Russia and/or OPEC have made good on their threats in a backhanded way? Posted by: Charlie | Feb 26 2005 23:47 utc | 6 @Charlie – not sure – that chart paints both directions – syncronised counter movements and syncronised equal/following movements. b: Posted by: Charlie | Feb 27 2005 0:12 utc | 8 Fifty more British soldiers face trial on Iraq ‘war crimes’ Posted by: More bad apples | Feb 27 2005 1:50 utc | 9 Professor faces jail in bio-terror scare
Posted by: Fran | Feb 27 2005 5:04 utc | 10 New charge undermines Blair claims on Iraq war
Posted by: Fran | Feb 27 2005 5:27 utc | 11 Rafael Renteria on WardC: Posted by: Citizen | Feb 27 2005 18:07 utc | 12 keeping current on the “ownership society”: Chomsky on Jan. 25 speech at the 25th Anniversary of the IRC Posted by: Citizen | Feb 27 2005 18:30 utc | 13 Ward Churchill is being attacked because the position he articulates (that the plane attacks were logically motivated) is exactly the same logic my country’s government is asking Iraqis to accept and support. Posted by: Citizen | Feb 27 2005 22:16 utc | 14 citizen Posted by: slothrop | Feb 27 2005 22:39 utc | 15 slothrop, Posted by: Citizen | Feb 27 2005 23:22 utc | 16 citizen Posted by: slothrop | Feb 27 2005 23:54 utc | 17 Feb 2005 – dead 59 US + 2 UK Posted by: DM | Feb 28 2005 0:01 utc | 18 Basically, my last post would hardly provide revelation to anyone who hangs out around here. apologies. Posted by: slothrop | Feb 28 2005 0:11 utc | 19 for me it is quite simple – i feel the slap across ward churchill’s cheek as if it was my own Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 28 2005 0:24 utc | 20 slothrop, Posted by: Citizen | Feb 28 2005 0:30 utc | 21 it is so clear to me – ward churchill must be defended – he is not our enemy – he has made clear all his life who his friends are & he has given wholly to them – if i am to understand russel means correctly & i believe that to be true – having read him & witnessed him in documentaries Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 28 2005 0:38 utc | 22 What I mean is, there is no “Council of 5” that runs the country over evening drinks. Posted by: Citizen | Feb 28 2005 0:39 utc | 23 & let’s be absolutely clear – ward churchill & lynne stewart are the beginning – not even the beginning because what is happening to them became – systematic in 2002 – & there will be many of us to follow – of that, there can be no doubt Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 28 2005 0:42 utc | 24 It’s more than a little bit curious, that one facit of the assault on Churchill would be his ethnicity — or rather his alledged lack of one. I suppose, at one time he could have been lynched, simply because of his ethnic association (outspoken & uppity Indian) and so now he is being demonized for not being Indian enough (or at least pure bred). This would be trivial if it were not consistant with Bushs generally inverted use of race to both shield criticism of individuals, Condi,Gonzalas,Estrada,etc and policy i.e. “how can you be progressive and not want to liberate Iraq?” So now we’re suppose to see Churchill as an un-authentic and illegitimate representative of first, Native American issues, and then by association, mainstream American issues. Posted by: anna missed | Feb 28 2005 3:22 utc | 25 did’nt really mean”trivial” but rather, an” isolated incident” Posted by: anna missed | Feb 28 2005 3:55 utc | 26 anna missed Posted by: slothrop | Feb 28 2005 4:46 utc | 27 one motive of the attack on churchill’s “authenticity” is the conscious effort to build a wedge in the american indian community and create strife w/i that community so that other native americans are disuaded from endorsing & joining what could easily become a much broader movement. the bellencourt aim no doubt could be provoked to take action upon the colorado chapter & churchill, ala the blackstone rangers back in the day, all the more eerily connected in that the other death that early december 1969 morning when two bullets were unloaded pointblank into fred hampton’s head was that of churchill’s roommate, mark clark. Posted by: b real | Feb 28 2005 4:47 utc | 28 b real: “another reason for the attack is that the rabid right cannot risk opening a real dialogue on what ward actually said” Posted by: jj | Feb 28 2005 5:39 utc | 29 @jj I don’t think there is any contradiction between Gannon/Guckert and the gay marriage wedge-driving. DeA: Posted by: jj | Feb 28 2005 7:13 utc | 31 Sword of honour (The ancient code of insult and revenge in America’s South) Posted by: anna missed | Feb 28 2005 8:09 utc | 32 anna missed, Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 28 2005 10:23 utc | 33 Completely OT (again) as I am finding the discussion about tenure at crap universities a bit turgid .. Posted by: DM | Feb 28 2005 11:09 utc | 34 A short anecdotical story to follow : and believe me , one that I’m not proud of, but it is instructive. Posted by: anna missed | Feb 28 2005 11:24 utc | 35 Thanks for the story anna missed, strange days found us, didn’t they? I remember one night (1969 also) sitting with some friends in a booth in a beer joint in the middle of my urban college campus and some guys who were about to ship out. When there was so much we could have talked about, the one topic of conversation that we seemed unable to get away from was their fresh military buzz cuts. It seemed so important to them for us to know that they didn’t really look that way… Posted by: beq | Feb 28 2005 15:12 utc | 37 a nice little set of responses/rebuttals to Luntz’ 160 page playbook, Come Lie With Me Posted by: Citizen | Feb 28 2005 16:16 utc | 38 It seemed so important to them for us to know that they didn’t really look that way… Bill Moyers interviewed by Naomi Nye:
the uncomfortable truth and the comfortable lie. also a useful dyad for self examination… Posted by: Citizen | Feb 28 2005 19:53 utc | 40 i hope i am not alone but i find the stories of anna missed & beq very instructive in the same way as jérôme has been speaking of his son, himself & his family. Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 28 2005 19:54 utc | 41 hope that is not too metathreadish or old testament & by the way thank you theodor for the articles from new left review. they are not only useful but illuminating in this dark night Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 28 2005 19:57 utc | 42 I have never seen this before. The cynical American in me says “Aha! that is why Germany and France are standing in the way of an American invasion of Iran” Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 28 2005 20:04 utc | 44 @beq, no, sorry to wreck my reputation for savage sarcasm, but was actually sincere. something so pathetic about those kids, all dolled up as Rambo, wanting someone to know “this isn’t really me” before they get sent off to the meat grinder. Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 28 2005 20:39 utc | 47 I can only speak from my own experiences of those times in the very early Seventies. Cool people had long hair, geeks and rednecks had short hair. Being in the military (not because of the draft which is of course much worse) because you were looking for a job or a way out of a dead end life meant you had to have short hair. This was quite frustrating to say the least. Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 28 2005 21:00 utc | 48 ACLU and Human Rights First to sue high-ranking US official re torture policies. Suit to be announced at press conference Tuesday at 10:30 am est. Former military leaders to join in suit. Sorry still haven’t learned to link yet but url is: http://www.aclu.org Posted by: conchita | Feb 28 2005 21:02 utc | 49 @dan First, to Charlie and Bernhard at the top of the thread: Posted by: jonku | Feb 28 2005 21:22 utc | 51 What I see now for rebellion is piercing and tattoos. Posted by: slothrop | Feb 28 2005 21:27 utc | 52 @jonku Since we are on this, does anyone know whatever happened to the story of how someone had shorted airline stock in a big way prior to Sept 11, 2001? Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 28 2005 21:41 utc | 54 @ slothrop: whoa, am I behind the times. I thought it was the filed teeth, split tongue and the creepy contact lenses now. Posted by: beq | Feb 28 2005 21:58 utc | 55 one last one before I hit the hay. Posted by: dan of steele | Feb 28 2005 22:02 utc | 56 Goody, in my mailbox tonight: One show card, two bills, and this. I never realized Jesus was so…so.. Posted by: beq | Feb 28 2005 22:06 utc | 57 Did anyone else read Tom Engelhardt today? TomDispatch has at the very bottom a well-written, frank letter from an Iraqi engineer to George Bush. (Search for Dear Mr. Bush)
“I am also sure that your kids will have to repay for all the damages and the stolen money.” Posted by: jonku | Feb 28 2005 23:02 utc | 58 Posted by: Hello lab rats | Feb 28 2005 23:07 utc | 59 U.S. Must Charge Padilla With Crime or Release Him
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