Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
February 17, 2005
Billmon: Intelligence Test
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stands to reason. choose a criminally unintelligent man for criminal intelligence

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 17 2005 20:53 utc | 1

We will teach our twisted speech
To the young believers
We will train our blue-eyed men
To be young believers
You grow up and you calm down
You’re working for the clampdown
You start wearing the blue and brown
You’re working for the clampdown
So you got someone to boss around
It makes you feel big now
You drift until you brutalize
You made your first kill now
Working for the Clampdown — The Clash
There is at least one thing the United States doesn’t have to import. We seem to be doing a perfectly good job manufacturing our own Himmlers and Heydrichs.
When they kick in your front door
How you gonna come
With your hands on your head
Or on the trigger of your gun?
Guns of Brixton — The Clash

Posted by: Aigin | Feb 17 2005 20:55 utc | 2

Wait. Didn’t the ambassador adopt honduran children? Shouldn’t we reserve judgment before condemning this man with the record of his career?
“John.”

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 17 2005 20:56 utc | 3

Behold, the smoke has come home (Merwin-My Friends

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 17 2005 21:03 utc | 4

Slothrop,
Did you see “I Heart Huckabees”? There is a scene in it on adopting families that you might like.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 17 2005 21:18 utc | 5

guess that about wraps it up in Iraq then.

Posted by: esme | Feb 17 2005 21:24 utc | 6

criminal conspiracy continues like some awful broadway musical – some terrible disordered cacaphony sung by idiots & interpreted by fools – directed if that is the word by someone who steals his thoughts from himself in his darkest hours that he imagines a light
it is a joke – some awful joke – negroponte is exactly like reinhard heydrich – the same vanity, the same sentimentality, the same basic cruelty, the same plain enjoyment of the terror he reproduces under his control
i hope he dies like heydrich – poisoned by his proper vanity

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 17 2005 21:25 utc | 7

Citizen
Did he adopt the children of the campesinos indios killed by the deathsquads?
haven’t seen it. maybe playing on bittorrent. I’ll check. thanks.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 17 2005 21:26 utc | 8

“They” never die, rgiap. Just look at Goldie Hawn.

Posted by: slothrop | Feb 17 2005 21:28 utc | 9

“I Heart Huckabees” never mentions Negroponte and his adoption politics, but rather is a comedy that in that one scene ‘analyzes’ the weird self-making that can go on in faith-based adoption. I rather imagine you’ll like the whole movie and not just that one scene.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 17 2005 21:59 utc | 10

How fitting — that last quote about “quiet diplomacy” just above the picture of the skeleton. Doesn’t get much quieter than that.

Posted by: kat | Feb 17 2005 22:25 utc | 11

I hate to admit it but my time in this country may be getting shorter.
Does anyone out there foresee a way that these thugs can be defeated? My hope is waning fast.

Posted by: rapt | Feb 17 2005 22:37 utc | 12

rapt,i was fantasizing last night about a different kind of death squad.

Posted by: annie | Feb 17 2005 22:57 utc | 13

citizen- or more to the point, you should see the movie The Official Story..
I wonder how many children of the disappeared were adopted by rich and powerful murderers? I do remember that in South America, sometimes pregnant women were allowed to give birth before they were killed.
..so, the fact that someone adopted a child means nothing to me as any indication of their decency. Michael Jackson would probably love to adopt children too.

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 17 2005 23:05 utc | 14

They will be defeated by wars that overreach and overspend. And only because that will bring the war home. They will be defeated when 911 is multiplied and no longer just a reichstag event but coordinated from many countries all of which have been given reason to hate and fear. Anything less would just mean trading one CEO for another.
Would there be a safe place to go in such a war?
I feel very stubborn about staying and trying to make my difference here with my friends and neighbors – but many people I admire at a distance have left their home countries when they disintegrated, people I imagine to be extremely tough.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 17 2005 23:09 utc | 15

fauxreal,
well said. and thanks for the movie rec.

Posted by: Citizen | Feb 17 2005 23:14 utc | 16

Someone might be tempted to read this appointment with an eye to the administration’s unfolding political drama. I’m tempted myself to read it that way: Rumsfeld and Cheney, I believe, have just lost their lines of authority and control of the purse-strings (within and without the Pentagon)over the intelligence bureaucracy, and have lost it to Powell’s most imposing lieutenant. I see the American Enterprise Institute being flooded rather promptly with resumes and job-applications from various underemployed Likudites, and await, with a measure of relish, the further unfoldings of the Plame affair.

Posted by: alabama | Feb 17 2005 23:32 utc | 17

some have more optimism than i am capable of possessing
think it entirely possible in this farce – that ollie north comes back to haunt mine & other people’s nights
think it entirely credible that – a special forces, phoenix programme, salvador option will be carried out in a nulber of countries with the willing help of donkey leaders
imagine it entirely possible that in the last premature ejaculation of the military industrial complex will wage war on multiple fronts guaranteeing its own – or our – destruction
wait now for at linkletter to introduce the good news from our boys in iraq – for bob hope to crack a few joke with his shïite pals, for gilligans island to be reconstructed in downtown mosul, for a postmodern version of hogans heroes to be played out in damascus, for marcus welby md to visit his starving patients in the centre of iran & for the dukes of hazard to use the middle east instead of the deep south for some good ol’ fun with them darkies
if sense should come – that would come not only as a surprise – but a shock

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 17 2005 23:48 utc | 18

That would mean Dub and his handlers are getting (have gotten) more desperate, to the point that negroponte’s job is to close up tight all the loopholes/leaks.
As for Plame, we have been eagerly waiting for a very long time. My take is that the case is being dragged out as long as possible, and that may be forever, until the operations people can come up with an exit strategy that works. Some death may be required here but that is just part of the plan.
I am not so optimistic as you are Alabama; as we should know, these guys are playing for keeps. It has been documented that corruption goes all through the judicial system including the Supremes, in case you expected that somebody would eventually do the right thing.

Posted by: rapt | Feb 17 2005 23:51 utc | 19

Via Yahoo
Reaction to President Bush (news – web sites)’s nomination on Thursday of John Negroponte, the current U.S. ambassador in Iraq (news – web sites), to be the first national intelligence director:
“I also believe that it is helpful that he comes to this position from outside of the intelligence community. It is fair to say that there are significant turf issues and significant technical issues and I believe that Ambassador Negroponte brings the particular talents to bear.” — Democratic Sen. Dianne Feinstein (news, bio, voting record) of California, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
“His appointment is good news for homeland security, good news for America, and good news for the free world.” — Republican Rep. Christopher Cox (news, bio, voting record) of California, chairman of the House Homeland Security Committee.
“It is vitally important that he be an honest broker and always report the facts. In my opinion, if he becomes merely a mouthpiece for the administration, he will have failed in his duties to the American people.” — Sen. Chris Dodd, D-Conn.
“I think he will bring the right mix of worldwide experience and bureaucratic skill to a most important and challenging position.” — former Secretary of State Colin Powell (news – web sites).
“He understands the needs of policy-makers and how the executive branch works. He will do very well.” — Senate Majority Leader Bill Frist, R-Tenn.
“I am concerned … about the message we are sending to Iraq and the rest of the world by removing our ambassador to Iraq so soon after he took office and at such a critical point in the transition to a democratically elected Iraqi government.” — Democratic Sen. Carl Levin (news, bio, voting record) of Michigan, a member of the Senate Intelligence Committee.
“For the director of national intelligence to succeed, he must have the president’s complete confidence and full support. We are encouraged by the president’s statement that Ambassador Negroponte will have full authority to set budgets for the intelligence community.” — Thomas Kean and Lee Hamilton, leaders of the Sept. 11 commission.
“It is my hope that the president will give the resources and authority to Ambassador Negroponte to turn things around in our disconnected intelligence community.” — Sen. Charles Schumer (news, bio, voting record), D-N.Y.
Yahoo

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Feb 18 2005 0:21 utc | 20

i would have thought the conviction of the lawyer stewart in new york would have made it clear to anyone that jurisprudence of any substance no longer exists in america. it is as althusser inferred an apparatus completely comprimised by powere. & in america it is degraded from its naked links with that power – rehnquist & scalia particularly – but so overwhelming in its culture – that they are just two of many.
the plane affair. some numbskull ‘journalist’ will pay – the real initiators & their agents novak or a miller will never face justice in any fundamental sense; ô i’d love to see novak somewhere in marian with a cell buddy calling him bubba but that will not happen – even less those within the administration – who were the creators of this little piece of work
‘revelations’ have come once a day for almost two years now about almost everything & no one has faced justice – nor will they
no one of any seriousness will ever, ever, in our coming futures ever take the american legislative process, the judical apparatus or its communication industry with anything but complete & utter contempt
all the kings horses & all the kings men….
but like the fascists before them – they do not have the balls to take power as they would want – they need & hide behind such tortured – (in every sense) – notions of ‘legality’ to practice their cruelty & to articulate their will to power – except unlike nietzsche they have no poetry in them – not an ounce – not even the hollow screams of hart crane as he dropped into deeper waters

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 18 2005 0:23 utc | 21

rapt and remembereringgiap, I don’t think I was expressing any optimism in my post @ 6:32 PM. Curiosity, yes, and malice for sure–because I harbor a particular loathing for Cheney and Rumsfeld. I’m not sure why I do this–one’s loathing should be distributed equally, favoring no one–and it almost always interferes with a lucid take on the situation. After posting, for example, I came across Fred Kaplan’s article in today’s “Slate,” where he reminds us that, among other things, Cheney and Rumsfeld did a very thorough job of securing their positions in the legislation drafted last fall.

Posted by: alabama | Feb 18 2005 0:31 utc | 22

rememberinggiap: would have thought the conviction of the lawyer stewart in new york would have made it clear to anyone that jurisprudence of any substance no longer exists in america.
Jurisprudence … Justice (aka “Just Ice”) has not existed in the US for a lot longer than most people want to hear about, rg … SF writer Stanislaw Lem said something like: There is a difference between the dream being dead, and it being dreamed wrong.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Feb 18 2005 0:43 utc | 23

Negroponte will do well. He’s a master of the Potomic two step. During his Honduran days he mastered the art of arming the Contras and likely slept like a baby while the death squads did their dirty work.
I wonder what kind of super computer program the Pentagon is working on that Negroponte will help put on line.
Is it just me or is Fienstein more like a rethug most of the time?

Posted by: jdp | Feb 18 2005 0:50 utc | 24

That would mean Dub and his handlers are getting (have gotten) more desperate, to the point that negroponte’s job is to close up tight all the loopholes/leaks.
hmmm — Viktor, le Nettoyeur, eh?
the fact that this man even walks around at liberty is imho an festering insult to the entire Southern Hemisphere.
I’m thinking of the degree of glamour and glory that got attached to the “Nazi hunters” after the war… the commando groups — some of them Israeli-trained and -funded iirc — who tracked down, kidnapped, assassinated former Nazis in their various hiding places. Why is it that criminals like Negroponte walk free without fear of similiar reprisals? it doesn’t seem to testify much to the “barbarism” that we’re always accusing all those Little Brown People of… if they so notably refrain from inflicting vigilante vengeance on our own commissars and occupational governors.
also I agree “The Official Story” is a fine film.

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 18 2005 0:59 utc | 25

OT but somehow appropriate.
Raw Story
The following embargo has been broken by some outlets in other countries; as such RAW STORY is releasing this release sent today from the American Civil Liberties Union. The ACLU told us earlier today that the embargo would be lifted if other outlets broke the embargo.
The documents related to this abuse will be available within the next few hours on their website, and a link will be posted on the Raw Story front page.
It should be noted that the abuse reported here came after the scandal at Abu Ghraib. The documents are set to splash on the front pages of major newspapers around the United States on Friday.
All told, the documents number more than a thousand pages.

Posted by: fauxreal | Feb 18 2005 3:59 utc | 26

So, does xUS -> Honduras/Guatemala/Nicaragua redux? Is anyone clear on what this sewer rat’s job description is? Will he control domestic spying?
For anyone thinking of perhaps heading North, I hope you saw my earlier link that unfortunately ended up on dying open thread. Meetings have been held planning to further integrate still democratic Canada w/ xUS – common currency, common foreign & security policy (Canada’s no doubt!!).
Full Story from 2/14 Toronto Star:
Border talks called disturbing

Posted by: jj | Feb 18 2005 4:39 utc | 27

@jj oh Gawd (oh Montreal)… Festung Nordamerika, here we come. ain’t no where you can run, ain’t nowhere you can hide — the corporadoes are coming.
of course having looted the US public sector and left it bleeding its life out in the dirt, their beady little reptile eyes are looking eagerly North to where an intact civil society still exists, with revenue surpluses, a public health care system to cannibalise, trees to clearcut, natural gas to steal, potable water to divert… not to mention all those pesky married gays to persecute (what fun!) and all that real estate to privatise and develop into stripmalls and luxury executive homes with private air strips…
I hope the Canadians will decisively throw out any government that attempts to turn them into de jure Americans… though I understand that Dubya and his gang have some fervent fans in the Northland, as they do in the red states here.

Posted by: DeAnander | Feb 18 2005 5:08 utc | 28

The Heydrich/Negroponte comparison is apt. Both completely in thrall of power, slavishly obedient to it and never seek ultimate responsibility for themselves. Cruelty comes naturally, be they Arabs, Nicaraguans or Czech villagers. Inverterate planners of solutions, final or temporary. Differences are in aesthetics and scale. The secret and dirty work is no longer conducted in black uniforms, but in grey suits; and the scope of the enterprise is worldwide as opposed to Europe and all points east.

Posted by: theodor | Feb 18 2005 5:19 utc | 29

@De- Not to mention that the Kleptos & Reactionaries/Theocrats/Fascists have largely mastered running the world outside of the scrutiny of either hardly representative “elected” bodies or the media, excepting one paper & 2 lightly trafficked websites w/links. This should be discussed everywhere….But then, they’re raining blows everywhere at once now. Inertial Momentum has greatly increased.
Re Theodor’s post, I saw end of “Pianist” again a few nights ago – ~last 20mins. If anyone hasn’t seen it recently, a trip to the video store is definitely in order. Very Frightening in Completely New Way. I just saw scene beg. w/2 Nazi soldiers tossing gasoline on corpses & setting them alight. Then pulling out some food for a snack. Camera pans back to the ruins of the Warsaw Ghetto. It could have been xAm. soldiers in the final days of the destruction of Fallujah!!

Posted by: jj | Feb 18 2005 5:51 utc | 30

Is it just me or is Fienstein more like a rethug most of the time?
Feinstein is odious and without principles, except a school marmish obsession with gun-control. (except when she gets to carry a concealed weapon, of course).

Posted by: thesumofallparts | Feb 18 2005 8:34 utc | 31

JJ: I though the US bid to annex Canada failed in 1812/14. Maybe should someone explain to the Canadian elite what “independance” means? I also was under the impression the US did annex only *half* of Mexico in 1848.
If this shit goes farther, I don’t think Quebec will take it lightly; they’d rather opt for secession. Then we’ll have the fine spectacle of the US Army bombing the heck out of Montreal and Quebec.

Posted by: Anonymous | Feb 18 2005 9:06 utc | 32

A thought on Negroponte. These days in Iraq – forming of coalitions and a new government – are extremly critical for the US plans.
Why did Negroponte leave that post now? Could the new job not have waited another few weeks? Is he running for shelter before anybody can pin a negative Iraq development on him?
There is something fishy with this. Any ideas?

Posted by: b | Feb 18 2005 11:54 utc | 33

B: good question.
Ashura is in a few days, I think. So maybe did Negroponte got word of some risky moves ahead. Like a massive Sunni attack. Or maybe Sadr/Sistani proclaiming the Islamic Republic of Iraq, with hundreds of thousands of Shiites taking the streets.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Feb 18 2005 14:11 utc | 34

Is he running for shelter before anybody can pin a negative Iraq development on him?
Seems to me Bernie Kerik skedaddled out of Iraq pretty quick too, back when he was supposed to be overseeing the all-important task of training the iraqi police force. Maybe both Kerik and Negroponte figured they’d get their millions, stuff the cash into their dufflebags and get out before they got their asses shot off.
Or maybe Negroponte just relished the idea of setting up a secret police force and death squads in America. How often does an opportunity like that come up in your lifetime?

Posted by: semper fubar | Feb 18 2005 18:02 utc | 35

From the NYT article:

…But Mr. Negroponte was also known to be eager to leave Baghdad, where he had served as a round-the-clock ambassador from the time of the transfer of sovereignty to the caretaker government there, through the roiling battles against insurgents, and up to the elections at the end of last month.
“He made clear to everyone every time he came back that ‘I’ve got to get out of there,’ ” said a senior administration official who asked not to be named because he did not want to publicly question Mr. Negroponte’s enthusiasm for his service in Iraq.

Posted by: OkieByAccident | Feb 18 2005 22:49 utc | 36

why search for conspiracy or reasons my friends – this administration is so far out there they make h p lovecraft & e a poe seem like they were social realists
this administration is about the most demented in words & in deeds. they don’t have the kind of medicine you need for this kind of dementia
it is a congress full of sweating shirts like the one wore by mccarthy at the army hearings
there is not one ounce of decency amongst them – they are a herd of swine as the learned dr thomson might put it
i neither search ofr strategies nor reasons – they will cannibalise all that is corrupt, venal & crazy in american history & they will revitalise it – they will show that a people, like the german working class under herr hitler – will work against their proper iterest for the sake of a ‘security’ sold by the very persons who are scaring them shitless
if negroponte is like heydrich – then cheny is certainly the rôhm figurine – vulgar, brutish & without any normal sense of honour or of decency. bridge so muck like kaltenbrunner that i have to go back to the history books to see if reincarnation is a material possibility
no – i do not search any sense here – this is what charlie manson & his friends called an orgy – & it will keep on going until the party ends & that does not seem for some time yet & in that time they will have put a fork into anything that moves – people, countries, ideas
charlie stole a song for it too – helter skelter & i can not think of a more appropriate jingle for this administration. in fact they make old charley seem like a personable midwife in comparison
i do not know what goes on in the late hours at the white house but whatever it is – william friedkin should go there for his hardons for horror because that much is at least certain. there would be such horror – that normal reality respecting people like ourselves would fall very quickly under the force of their obvious innate understanding of mysticism. all they need now is for the angelic brian wilson to set up his clinic in the oval room & cut us a new disc making clear for us cretins the wonderful & magisterial interior lives of our leaders
no – if i want sense i’ll go to hank williams or some hillbilly song by cisco houston

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Feb 18 2005 23:27 utc | 37