Watch What We Say, Not What We Do is the instruction from the outpost of tyranny, sez Billmon.
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January 21, 2005
Billmon: Watch What We Say, …
Watch What We Say, Not What We Do is the instruction from the outpost of tyranny, sez Billmon.
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And the mass media conjures, says Frank Rich
Billmon’s point of say A do Z is of course valid. But there is also the point that Bush says A and really means A especially in the cases where A is a gurantee for desaster.
Jerome, Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jan 21 2005 12:30 utc | 4 Figured it out and fixed it: Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jan 21 2005 12:34 utc | 5 Atrocities in Plain Sight Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 21 2005 12:40 utc | 6 @fauxreal – thanks for the Sulivan link
Kerry probably was right with that evaluation, but he was wrong in letting himself be guided by such evaluations. we have proclaimed that every man and woman on this earth has rights, and dignity, and matchless value, Posted by: kat | Jan 21 2005 15:25 utc | 8 I have been reading Noam Chomsky’s “Hegemony or Survival”, he shows that this conflict between the stated desire of “democracy” and the actual practice of the US has existed in policy for a very long time, mentioning the Monroe Doctrine, Woodrow Wilson, JFK’s actions during the Bay of Pigs, and of course Reagan, Bush I and Bush II. Bush II has just taken it to a new level with the official sanctioning of torture, we didn’t mind torture before if it was done outside our borders by a “friendly” government such as Saddam. Posted by: Carl | Jan 21 2005 15:41 utc | 9 They hate our freedom. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 19:43 utc | 10 Citizen Posted by: slothrop | Jan 21 2005 20:40 utc | 12 America will not pretend that jailed dissidents prefer their chains, or that women welcome humiliation and servitude, or that any human being aspires to live at the mercy of bullies. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 20:56 utc | 13 I am grateful for the honor of this hour, mindful of the consequential times in which we live, and determined to fulfill the oath that I have sworn and you have witnessed. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 21:10 utc | 14 This keeps going on and on. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 21:12 utc | 15 No, wait, I just figured out how the end of inaugural sentence 2 works. If he cursed in front of the audience, then it’s all accurate. Anyone lip readers here who can testify? Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 21:17 utc | 16 There is only one force of history that can break the reign of hatred and resentment, and expose the pretensions of tyrants, and reward the hopes of the decent and tolerant, and that is the force of human freedom. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 21:22 utc | 17 At this second gathering, our duties are defined not by the words I use, but by the history we have seen together. Posted by: slothrop | Jan 21 2005 21:23 utc | 18 Meanwhile, it turns out that our president is not the only man in the world who can tell speak the truth. Posted by: Citizen | Jan 21 2005 21:34 utc | 19 I think Bush really does believe he can end tyranny through militarism, and he’s probably just dopey enough to believe that’s what’s happening, but wiser heads in Europe and elsewhere probably know it can’t happen that way. Hence Europe’s policy of economic containment. Posted by: bcf | Jan 22 2005 1:48 utc | 20 Jonathan Schell cuts to the chase: What’s Wrong with Torture
well, Jonathan, basically, er, No, and Yes, and Yes. to our/their everlasting shame and possibly our/their undoing. De- A woman who looked like she was the prototype for the outdoorsy set who husbands are still happy because they can have medicinal boners told me, yesterday, that Sy Hersh’s Chain of Command and Mark Danner’s Torture and Truth are “just their opinions.” Posted by: fauxreal | Jan 22 2005 13:08 utc | 22 Sometimes it’s the sheer petulant pettiness that gets to me… We are led by events and common sense to one conclusion: The survival of [exploitation] in our land increasingly depends on the success of [exploitation] in other lands. The best hope for [profiteering] in our world is the expansion of free[-market economics] in all the world. Posted by: b real | Jan 23 2005 19:12 utc | 24 @b real
…the spirit of those birds who have died from oil spills would “incorporate” in the physical realm and peck out the eyes of the neocons… I forgot to say fauxreal what a powerful image this is. positively Greek-tragedy material. I see Cheney and Rummie cowering like Tippi Hedren as the oil-soaked Furies converge… thanks. The endless accounts of violent butchery, naked thievery and bold lying committed by this administration, and the fact that it has gone unchallenged by those whose job it is to challenge, these worst of deeds and criminal omission have seeped into my soul like a spilled crude that is cognizant of its own evil soaking into a feeling beach. I feel violence and hatred toward those who are complicit, I yearn to perpetrate their own crimes against them, inflict upon them the pain which they inflict, and I realize, beaten, that I have been polluted by them. I have willingly participated in my own defeat; voluntarily, eagerly pinned my eyelids open and actively sought out the record of these crimes, cataloged the evidence of their stunning failure and have dutifully picked up and piled upon my conscious this flotsam and jetsam of suffering that has resulted from their blindness. I have accepted this debris as my own, my charge to bear. I struggle to breathe, I sob and suffer the anger and frustration of helplessness and rage that I must carry this weight, at the injustice of the enemies’-of-compassion continued physical existence on this planet, in this realm of being, for another second. I am an emotional Job, all of my children-of-optimism have been crushed in four cruel years. My faith in the systems of un-civilization has reached zero, my trust in humanity is a castaway and I doubt my ability to find it. I am transfixed by the shine of approaching destruction and struggle to turn away, to turn within myself and seek the only source of hope avialable to me. I sense new life in the ashes and must keep reminding myself of Voltair’s command: tend your own garden. So I ask my community, walking with me in solidarity on this shore upon which we have choosen to recognize the evidence of distruction spread about us, I ask my friends: what place does awareness of the awful events in the world have in my mind and body when I have barely the capacity to control myself and effect a positive force on those closet to me? Posted by: stoy | Jan 24 2005 8:12 utc | 27 stoy rhymes w/ joy. you effect a positive force in me. Posted by: annie | Jan 24 2005 10:00 utc | 28 Anytime Annie. Geez, I should have gone to bed last night instead of written the above mess. Posted by: stoy | Jan 24 2005 18:42 utc | 29 Stoy, wow. Posted by: SusanG | Jan 24 2005 18:52 utc | 30 stoy – I read your powerful post and wanted to thank you for it as well, but did not. Thanks to Susan for reminding me. Posted by: Jérôme | Jan 24 2005 19:01 utc | 31 @stoy I sob and suffer the anger and frustration of helplessness and rage that I must carry this weight, at the injustice of the enemies’-of-compassion continued physical existence on this planet, in this realm of being, for another second I think I’ve felt this way, on and off, for most of my adult life. at some point if your mind is open, if you are capable of understanding that the Other’s pain is just as real as your own, then you realise the incalculable, inexpressible, unutterably horrible weight of cruelty pressing on the world — a legacy of untended wounds and unfed hunger, of screams that no one heard or that someone laughed to hear, of unbearable shame somehow borne, of whole lives stifled and stunted, bodies broken and maimed, whole species snuffed out with vandalistic enthusiasm, living forests reduced to desert, vibrant cultures reduced to penury and clientism… the full weight of human agency for evil and selfish stupidity, centuries of it, pressing down like a cloud of pesticide. the sheer scale of it! it’s literally unthinkable. it boggles the mind and freezes the heart. stoy & citizen Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 24 2005 20:22 utc | 33 De and Stoy, Posted by: SusanG | Jan 24 2005 20:24 utc | 34 “It was plain that while Hautboy saw the world pretty much as it was, yet he did not theoretically espouse its bright side nor its dark side. Rejecting all solutions, he but acknowldged facts. What was sad in the world he did not superficially gainsay; what was glad in it he did not cynically slur; and all which to him was personally enjoyable, he took to his heart. It was plain, then–so it seemed at that moment, at least–that his extraordinary cheerfulness did not arise either from deficiency of feeling or thought.” Herman Melville, The Fiddler Posted by: alabama | Jan 24 2005 23:24 utc | 35 c’est l’heure de l’insomnie, maîtresse de la terre Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jan 25 2005 0:59 utc | 36 About Bush’s speech, it struck me as odd – and scary – that he seems to have given up “terrorism” in favour of “tyranny”, which expands the spectrum quite a lot. Castro, for instance, cannot be said to support terrorists, but it wouldn’t be too difficult to paint him – or just about anyone else – as a tyrant, would it? Posted by: pedro | Jan 25 2005 6:38 utc | 37 Thank you, everyone, so much. I feel internally balkanized, but they are leaky bulkheads. As some of you know, I have lung problems, and I *feel* that this suffering that I absorb daily is preventing my recovery. No one, but me maybe, can really answer that. I have this borrowed heart and barrowed lungs. Now my lungs are broken and I wonder if it is me, if it is my karma and at the same time my mission to take some of the immense weight of suffering inside myself, to relieve, in a small way, the collective burden. Or maybe I am just foolishly conflating the two. But I struggle with both. Anyway, I have more hope than that post probably lets on. And working for the Green Party, both local organizing and graphic work for national committees has calmed me, make me feel less impotent in face of the terrible weight of suffering De so eloquently described. I am so thankful for everyone of my online friends, from the bottom of my progressive second-hand bleeding heart. May we always be available to carry each other. Thank you. Posted by: stoy | Jan 25 2005 7:42 utc | 38 Billmon: Watch What We Say, … Posted by: koreyel | Jan 28 2005 4:45 utc | 40 Thank you Koreyel FOR THAT BREATH OF FRESH AIR. Posted by: FlashHarry | Jan 28 2005 4:53 utc | 41 |
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