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January 20, 2005
Billmon: Collateral Damage
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Posted by: beq | Jan 20 2005 19:04 utc | 1 From comment by sic transit gloria:
Posted by: beq | Jan 20 2005 19:11 utc | 2 also (stgusa):
Posted by: beq | Jan 20 2005 19:22 utc | 3 Each act, each occasion is worse than the last, but only a little worse. You wait for the next and the next. You wait for one shocking occasion, thinking that others, when such a shock comes, will join you in resisting somehow. Posted by: Uncle $cam | Jan 20 2005 19:44 utc | 4 @uncle: I’ve read that quote recently. German intellectual, interviewed, reminiscing about the gradual escalation of Nazism… Tsunami stories and the war on Iraq have got me thinking that it would be in everyone’s interest for the people in the EU and elsewhere to start adopting American children. It would keep them out of harm’s way and provide for a healthier upbringing. Posted by: biklett | Jan 20 2005 19:59 utc | 6 I saw the pictures from that shooting in Iraq on the BBC yesterday, and about 20 minutes later I just sat on the couch and broke down sobbing. Between those pictures and Condi Rice’s confirmation hearing I just couldn’t take it anymore. Posted by: stoy | Jan 20 2005 20:18 utc | 8 I knew we were on a sadistic slide downwards as a culture when I caught my first glimpse of “America’s Funniest Home Videos.” At least fifty percent of those “hilarious” clips have someone undergoing some tremendously painful accident — or humiliation. Posted by: SusanG | Jan 20 2005 20:25 utc | 9 yesterday i was googling that ryan guy and saw he was posted on all these red websites. i clicked one and was astounded to find this child abuse Posted by: annie | Jan 20 2005 21:26 utc | 10 beq, Posted by: jdp | Jan 20 2005 21:50 utc | 11 annie, looking at the picture, a joke. The car is on or very close to the shoulder and the kid’s hair isn’t blowing at all. The posted 99 was someone else approaching or photo shopped.;-) Posted by: beq | Jan 20 2005 22:09 utc | 12 extra points if someone can answer where the above quote comes from… Posted by: semper fubar | Jan 20 2005 22:25 utc | 13 NewsHour with Tim Lehrer: NEWSMAKER: PAUL WOLFOWITZ
Wolfie’s a real strategical little piece of work, ain’t he B? Posted by: FlashHarry | Jan 20 2005 22:38 utc | 15 And it is worth saying that since June 1, there have been more Iraqi police and military killed in action than Americans. Posted by: semper fubar | Jan 20 2005 22:43 utc | 16 Why do you hate America so much? Didn’t you hear what Dear Führer said? “We’ll bring freedom to every human being on the planet and we will completely root out terrorism; we will destroy all the tyrants. Gott mit uns!” Posted by: Clueless Joe | Jan 21 2005 0:47 utc | 17 Love it or … ? oh, and why on this thread did I post that there, at 8:53p? because imho the loss of our intelligentsia as it migrates in an attempt to flee stupidity and brutality, is a genuine form of “collateral damage” for repressive regimes. Posted by: DeAnander | Jan 21 2005 1:55 utc | 19 At what point will the American public cry for the heads of people like Wolfowitz and Coulter? Can you imagine if a Russian had said all of the worst Russians go to Israel, and Israel had better watch it or one day Russia would just turn it into more parking space for Cairo? Of if someone in the Misistry of Defense had said that what is most important about Kosovo is that the US Army do most of the fighting and British that casulties go down. Right now more Americans are dying in Kosovo than British troops. Posted by: stoy | Jan 21 2005 4:40 utc | 20 Blame it on the rein…of Saddam Hussein. Posted by: stoy | Jan 21 2005 4:54 utc | 21 Shit, that should have read “Blame it on the rein that keeps falling, falling” Posted by: stoy | Jan 21 2005 4:55 utc | 22 re: Canada GOP unity is strained by attacks
If I was in charge of Canada, I would both pump the country dry and sell the oil as fast as possible, all the while using all of the profits to fund alternative energy research and infrastructure. Posted by: stoy | Jan 21 2005 6:48 utc | 25 DeAnander said– DeA: There were some fools who wanted to go against Canada or Mexico, or maybe both, right after the Civil War ended, because they thought it would be stupid to discard this big army without using it for further conquest. Not to mention the 1812 war of aggression. So it’s not as if it was anything new that some nutcases in the US dream of Anschluss. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Jan 21 2005 9:07 utc | 27 As to the little Iraqi girl in Billmon’s second photograph: Why do they let her live? I mean, there surely is a fair chance that she will turn into a terrorist (violence is simply ingrained in these barbaric people’s genes, dontcha know). The German Einsatzgruppen would not have been so negligent. How can you hope to instil democracy in the barbarians’ minds if you let too many little girls live? Posted by: teuton | Jan 21 2005 11:17 utc | 28 TEUTON! How do we know that little girl and the rest of her family is still alive? Posted by: R.L. | Jan 21 2005 23:16 utc | 29 The little girl lived. Her brother was more seriously hurt. Posted by: Anonymous | Jan 22 2005 0:50 utc | 31 anon, thanks for the link. Just to be clear from this comfortable distance: I am not blaming the soldiers in the first place; they are under an enormous stress over there, and they will have to live with this for the rest of their lives. However, innocent people are dead, one boy wounded, and six children have lost their parents thanks to the US’s mission of bringing freedom to people who have never asked for their ‘help’. The blame lies clearly with those who needlessly created this situation, and who are preparing for more of this. Bushco create the evil they pretend they are fighting. Posted by: teuton | Jan 22 2005 1:34 utc | 32 is there any clear diff between the vidgame and porno industries at this point, other than that the vidgame industry at least doesn’t (ab)use live models in sweatshop conditions? check out some of the gaming rules of ‘Grand Theft Auto’ for example… when the first-person player starts to lose health points he can pick up a prostitute and have sex with her, which raises his health points but decreases cash points. however, once the hooker exits the player’s car, the game rules allow him to beat her to death in order to get his money back. no penalty. Zork II this ain’t. DeA: Posted by: A swedish kind of death | Jan 22 2005 3:23 utc | 34 |
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