Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
October 5, 2004
Vice-Discussion

Dick Cheney as advertised by the Bush/Cheney campaign.

Throughout his service, Mr. Cheney served with duty, honor, and unwavering leadership, gaining him the respect of the American people during trying military times.

John Edwards bio written by the Kerry/Edwards campaign.

Whether in the courtroom or the Senate, John Edwards has been guided by the small-town values his parents taught him when he was young – hard work, responsibility, and community. And those same values guide him in his campaign to be vice president.

Hard do guess how the viewers will judge on the discussion tonight. There are some openings in Cheney’s defense from today’s press. Rumsfeld has not seen ‘strong, hard evidence’ of an AlQaida – Iraq link and Paul Bremer admits ”We never had enough troops on the ground.”.

Cheney’s flip-flop going to Baghdad 2002 versus 1992 should also be a fair point. How many additional American casualties is Saddam worth? Cheney had asked. Edwards should demand an answer. But of course Cheney will be prepared for these and have his attack points ready.

From outer appearance I expect Edwards, People magazine’s sexiest politician, to win this one, but Cheney’s ever frightening terror, terror, terror does boost voter support on all issues.

What is your bet?

Comments

Sadly, it seems fear trumps hope and facts. Never underestimate Cheney.

Posted by: maxcrat | Oct 5 2004 11:54 utc | 1

10 Questions for Potty Mouth

Posted by: beq | Oct 5 2004 12:27 utc | 2

Hello Everyone,
I believe Cheney will try Cheneying Edwards. But, Edwards is much younger, has a better ticker, a brighter mind and will kick Cheney’s ass.
I wonder if Edwards will bring up Cheneys five deferments. Or him still being on the Haliburton payroll. Or his constant harping about Saddam and AQ which has been clearly proven wrong. Or his scare tactics saying if kerry is elected the US will get hit by terrorist. But not with Bushie the moron.
Inquiring minds want to know.

Posted by: jdp | Oct 5 2004 16:46 utc | 3

My thoughts are split between Cheney’s nitroglycerin tablets exploding in his pocket and Edwards administering CPR to Cheney – Just the pounding on the chest, not the mouth-to-mouth part.

Posted by: biklett | Oct 5 2004 17:29 utc | 4

Like JDP, I would like to see all those issues brought up as well, but then again, I would have liked to have seen Kerry bring up some of the more damning issues against Bush in their debate. He brought up a few, but I don’t think he spent enough time on the more important things (where are the weapons, George? etc.)It’s hard to have faith in politics – the things that need to be said are rarely mentioned.
I’ll be interested to see how Edwards does tonight. Could go either way. And as always, never underestimate the ignorance of the American public.
BTW – just saw “9/11: Road to Tyranny” last night. Holy Moly – everyone should see that. Just don’t watch it right before you go to bed. Coming soon to a police state near you!

Posted by: chaelman | Oct 5 2004 18:32 utc | 5

you state
“I expect Edwards, People magazine’s sexiest politician, to win this one”
on the other hand, andrew sullivan writes
“They’ll both be seated at a table, immediately allowing Cheney to do his assured, paternal, man-of-the-world schtick that makes me roll on my back and ask to have my tummy scratched. (Yes, I do think that Cheney is way sexier than Edwards. Not that you asked or anything.)”
de gustibus non est disputandum

Posted by: mistah charley | Oct 6 2004 0:19 utc | 6

It is all worth repeating.
jdp:
“I wonder if Edwards will bring up Cheneys five deferments. Or him still being on the Haliburton payroll. Or his constant harping about Saddam and AQ which has been clearly proven wrong. Or his scare tactics saying if kerry is elected the US will get hit by terrorist.”
It is all fair game.
I hope Edwards goes for arterial blood…and if he ripes out an avuncular eye out or two… so much the better.
In another time and place Cheney would make a model Nazi General. He deserves absolutely zero compassion. I am hoping—nay, praying… that Edwards brings his A-game tonight and slices and dices this fucker up for fish bait.
Of course… only the hungriest carp would ever dare bite on that reeking hook.

Posted by: koreyel | Oct 6 2004 0:42 utc | 7

unfair to vote since I’m watching the debate as I type but I’m ecstatic to see Edwards not only hit the Halliburton issue hard (and Cheney look visibly unhappy) and even more jazzed to hear Edwards nail Cheney on his voting record when in Congress … Cheney walked into that one and had no answer to the facts that he voted against the Dept of Education, against MLK day, against Meals on Wheels – that last delivered as only Edwards 2 Americas can …
So far the big disappointment is the pandering to Sharon … but we knew that was part of the deal, eh?

Posted by: Siun | Oct 6 2004 1:53 utc | 8

…and keeping Mandela in prison!?! That too.

Posted by: beq | Oct 6 2004 2:49 utc | 9

I forgot that one beq – thanks! Cheney is an amazing piece of work. The MSNBC talking heads are claiming Cheney won (all that gravitas) but the vote on their site with @160,000 votes run 75% Edwards won. Just the Cheney body language was enough to frighten the horses!

Posted by: Siun | Oct 6 2004 3:04 utc | 10

” I don’t know who won, but I know who lost: The American people” <---

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Oct 6 2004 4:03 utc | 11

Watched it twice, drool to my expectations first time, second time saw that Edwards was speaking the sheeple language effectively, Cheney by contrast was an interview with big boss man, hands grinding endlessly together, droning on, and drowning out all questions and concerns — talking down. Would expect an unexpected gain in #s, especially in a place like Ohio.

Posted by: anna missed | Oct 6 2004 6:33 utc | 12

” I don’t know who won, but I know who lost: The American people”
And the rest of us………………..

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Oct 6 2004 6:36 utc | 13