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still steel

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Oct 28 2004 0:35 utc | 4

@Slothrop et. al, realize Watergate was a Coup, not some cub reporter caper.(read Silent coup) Consider the precipice economically & militarily that our country is on: w/NeoCons threatening to invade/allow Israel to attack Iran while having already bankrupted the treasury; Norquist, Bu$h planning to make tax-cuts for uber-rich permanent; Asians investing capital at home rather than dutifully buying US treasuries; the Atlantic Alliance fraying; the Constitution hanging by a thread…on and on……if you really think that these clowns will be allowed to govern for 4 more years, PLEASE MAKE A CASE TO SUBSTANTIATE WHY. They didn’t allow Nixon to govern for 4 more yrs. Now they have the means to trivially fix things via the Central Tabulator. Elections are a means of adjudicating conflicts among elites. If you A Big DOG, would you sit by & allow these Madguys to destroy America, or would you move to remedy things, when occasionally elections go wrong?

Posted by: jj | Oct 28 2004 3:15 utc | 6

jj:
I’m no big dog.
What to do? Those who fight against this (what do we call it? fascism?) power, are on the right side of history.
Perhaps American inaction and boredom will, as Wilbur said in his poem ‘shame,’ “bring about the collapse of the whole empire.”
Naw. Really, what is YOUR commitment to confront this (what shall we call it: evil?) power? This is the most important question for anyone bold enough to dissent.

Posted by: slothrop | Oct 28 2004 3:31 utc | 8

I think “Mosh” has got Rove shitting in his pants.
I haven’t felt this hopeful for days.

Posted by: catlady | Oct 28 2004 4:12 utc | 10

Quote:
“the artists are gonna save the world.”
***
It would be great but it certainly is not so…
But they can help form public opinion in a long run….to some extend…only to some extend…

Posted by: vbo | Oct 28 2004 4:40 utc | 12

Kinda funny that Eminem who has made a fortune out of publicly spitting hate at gays and women, should be so angry with Bush who has, er, made his political fortunes at least partly out of spitting hate at, er, gays and women…

Posted by: DeAnander | Oct 28 2004 5:38 utc | 14

In substance Bush’s tenure in the White House has been an abject failure, so Kerry ought to win easily
“on the issues”. It’s nothing short of incredible that a President, warned according to “official sources” of an attack against the United States in early August, can now present himself as the fitter choice for the ensuring American security; it beggars the imagination that after the fiasco of 9/11 no one in the chain of command has been fired or reprimanded. To view the continuing and mortifying display of ruthless ineptitude of Bush’s misadventure in Iraq as the primary justification for his re-election goes beyond chutzpah and hubris and well into delirium.
Nevertheless, we all recognize the limits of applying our “reasoning” to the political sphere, that is, in confounding our desires with reality. The mediatic conditioning of the electorate has heretofore “removed” many, indeed most, of the most pressing questions confronting the U.S. government. It may well be the case that this election will be marked by a flight from reality.
At this point our desire to see Bush removed from power is so strong that it can blind us not only to unknowable electoral realities, but also to the problems that a victorious Kerry will have to confront and especially to the problems that he will incarnate. Finding a politically presentable and rapid exit from Iraq is, one hopes, close to the top of Kerry’s (unstated!) agenda. How this will be harmonized with Kerry’s super-Likkudist posturing will certainly be problematical. After four years of extreme rightist
ideology in the White House, returning to “ordinary administration” and centrist banalities will seem
like a major improvement. Nevertheless we should be
advocating a wide ranging progressive agenda that goes beyond merely favoring what now seems to be a widely discounted “exit from Iraq” strategy.
The real challenges for Kerry should be to tame the national security state, to begin to cure the structural infirmities of our financial-economic apparatus, and to return to a “decent respect for the opinions of mankind” by “promoting the general welfare”.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Oct 28 2004 6:17 utc | 16

OK sorry bout that.
Lets try this link

Posted by: Debs in ’04 | Oct 28 2004 7:21 utc | 18

French Speaker: Maybe Bush has figured out he’s gonna lose badly the expats vote?
Debs: The Germans didn’t have much of a cop-out for a long time. If you want to see people who got off the hook very easily, look at Austrians, who portrayed themselves as victims of Nazi aggression by being annexed when they gladly welcomed it and turned up to be just as bad and as eager as the average German to support and expand the Reich.
“President Bush is a good man I’m gonna go with him” or even “he’s the only one that can keep us safe. He went into Iraq to get the 9/11 terrorists.” or my favourite “He is a great commander in chief. Kerry is too weak for the job”
Some people are too stupid to be allowed to vote, period. Idiots who still think this nowadays should be sold into slavery; then the sales’ benefits could be used to repay a bit of the enormous US national debt – for once, wingnut would actually do something useful for their country.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Oct 28 2004 9:19 utc | 20

Looking through the comments, blogs and press the Mosh video is the phenomen many have been waiting for.
The Real Slim Shady Stands Up

Critics – especially from the right – will dismiss “Mosh” as a shrewd attempt to boost record sales by capitalizing on the tide of anti-Bush populism. Yet, Eminem has truly made a leap with “Mosh.” In his first four albums – despite pointing out the absurdities of American politics and culture – his mantra, ultimately, was “I just don’t give a fuck.” Never before has he advocated for political change. Even if the song’s late arrival gives it a limited impact on the vote, Eminem’s pronounced political shift should send shivers through the largely unchecked right wing establishment.

If Bush wins this election there will be street fights in the US. I am convinced this video will turn the tide with the young people. Go get yourself a black hoodie.

Posted by: b | Oct 28 2004 10:19 utc | 22

Anything is possible. I do not know about USA but here in Australia polls showed pretty much close results prior to election and Labor even was winning according to polls at some points all tho Howard’s personal popularity was strong at all times despite all lies.
It turned out to be enormous victory for Howard & co. They even won Congress majority…so both houses strong majority. They can do what ever they want for next 3 years. And they will…Australians ( me included) are about to learn some bad lessons.
It would be interesting to see Howard’s position if Kerry wins this election…I mean he claims he is a great friend with Bush, you know , that’s why we are so lucky … All tho it always was pretty hard to see Howard & co, cause they always have been deep inside American ass…
Yes I am depressed and just can’t imagine how depressed I am going to be if Bush wins…When we will learn about results? Here it took about 4-5 hours after the election to get results…especially because it was not close call… I think world is not going to breathe this time

Posted by: vbo | Oct 28 2004 12:25 utc | 24

@b: oops. sorry.

Posted by: beq | Oct 28 2004 12:57 utc | 26

it’s not just the black block it will inspire. my son and all his friends( bl and wh) wear hooded sweatshirts and listen to hip hop and rap. the skateboard parks are packed around here.the youth vote is a powerful block, this new voting segment of society could become so charged by this election that they continue to be voters for decades to come. i think the pollers have entirely underestimated them and given the prospect of a draft, i think they will be coming out in mass. i am feelig very hopeful.

Posted by: annie | Oct 28 2004 19:50 utc | 28

you forgot the tallest NBA player being Chinese 🙂

Posted by: Dan of Steele | Oct 28 2004 20:53 utc | 30

fine line between anger and hate. bush is just a mask. truly wish this empowering audiovisual stmt would have taken that extra risk (probably less risky than saying f-bush nowadaze) and stressed the urgency to vote outside the two major party system if we are to preserve any hope of real change. maybe it’s just the spirit of the holiday that’s speaking to me at the moment, but changing masks only means there’s still going to be plenty of ghosts and goblins in our future.

Posted by: b real | Oct 28 2004 22:35 utc | 32

With Eminem calling up the black hoodies, the Bushies might want to rethink their economic theory, based upon this reality-based journalist/teacher/author.
Neocomony (although people are mistakenly calling it “Neoeconomy.”
“With rising inequality, it’s harder for poor people to obtain economic opportunities, because chances to get education and training, or to bring ideas to market, depend on money as well as talent, and because the number of these opportunities is limited.”
“The Bush administration has done little to alleviate either of these conditions. So, when income gaps widen, more of the potential of poor people—even the smartest and most innovative poor people—will inevitably be wasted. The wealthier people who own America’s companies won’t have as skilled a workforce, or as fast a flow of new ideas, as they might have had otherwise.”
“…Eventually, the new incentives could lead to a whole new way of classifying people: working and upper-class would be replaced by taxpayer and free-rider. Titans of industry, heirs and heiresses, and wizards of Wall Street wouldn’t pay for national defense, cancer research, or President Bush’s trip to Mars. All those costs would be borne by America’s breadwinners.”
“It sounds like a recipe for the kind of social unrest that can make an economy stagger, stagnate, or worse. A political backlash would seem almost inevitable. And something worse—like a riotous manifestation of anticapitalist sentiment—would become a real possibility for the first time in decades. And that’s what could happen if the theory works.”
@7 a.m. 10/07 author Daniel Altman interview on Wisc. public radio

Posted by: fauxreal | Oct 29 2004 2:47 utc | 34

I dunno — I think I’m about bloody ready for “a riotous manifestation of anticapitalist sentiment.” It’s only about 25 years overdue, after all.

Posted by: DeAnander | Oct 29 2004 3:54 utc | 36