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October 16, 2004
Gignac’s Gargantuan Gaffe

by Harrow

You usually don’t read the business section of the newspaper for laughs, unless you’re reading quotes on the economy from Bushco. But I got a good chuckle when I picked up yesterday’s Globe and Mail. In the previous day’s edition, there was this:

It’s proverbial wisdom in the stock market that when the base metal stocks such as copper and nickel are soaring in price, it is a sure sign that the economic cycle is about to peak and it is time to take profits.

But that is not Mr. Gignac’s view. He is confident that the rally is sustainable, helped by growth in China and India, ample liquidity provided by the central banks in the Group of Seven countries and continued moderate growth in the United States.
The very next day, their story changed somewhat.
VANCOUVER — High-flying metals prices and mining stocks thudded back to earth yesterday, dragged down by factors that included a stronger U.S. dollar, worries about slowing demand in China and signs that shortages of some metals, such as copper, could soon ease.
Wow, what a difference one day makes!

I especially like how it was China’s fault either way. If and when a serious economic crisis hits the US, there’s going to be a lot of opportunistic demagogues pointing their fingers overseas and bellowing about the yellow peril. Maybe another way of interpreting this is that China has become so huge and voracious (it surpassed Japan as the world’s third biggest trader sometime earlier this year), it can drastically affect the world economy one way or the other, depending which side of the bed it got up on that morning. At any rate, there’s another peril much closer to home:

Analysts said the rout was aggravated by the increased influence of institutional investors such as hedge funds, who stepped up their activity in metals markets to offset disappointing returns in other sectors. The presence of these large traders has helped push commodity prices higher but has also led to more volatility.

“We have unleashed a horrible monster of liquidity,” said John Ing, president of Toronto-based investment dealer Maison Placements Canada Inc. “With interest rates where they are, and stock markets such miserable performers, there have been a great number of these hedge funds or commodity funds created, because that’s where the action has been.”

I’ve heard that hedge funds are increasingly dominating the stock market. How long until the next business section flip-flop?

Comments

Certainly there was and is too much money created by the Fed and by other central banks. With interst rates this low anybody can get credit.
Commodities are still cheap. China may slow down it´s rate of growth, it will not stop growing and demand for commodities will grow further.
Hedge fonds have a problem. When there were only a few, they could arbitrage between markets and make money. Now there are some 8,000 of them all trying to the same and so noboday is making money anymore. Some are trying new strategies taking more risk.
There is to be expected a “dislocation” somewhere in the next months. Maybe a derivative event like LTCM or a new scandal at another big insurance company. This could start a chain reaction. Now too mayn fonds are sitting on the same side of the boat. If the all want to change the side at the same time, the boat will take water.

Posted by: b | Oct 17 2004 9:39 utc | 1

Certainly there was and is too much money created by the Fed and by other central banks. With interst rates this low anybody can get credit.
How so, b? Money created by the central banks is debt-free, while that created by private banks adds to the already too-heavy debt level that is a feature of the modern economy.

Posted by: glenstonecottage | Oct 18 2004 1:50 utc | 2

Glenstonecottage:
It’s true that money created by a central bank does not create debt (only inflation). But it lends money at X% to banks, which lend it at X+Y% to others. When X is extremely low, as it is right now in the US, it encourages a frantic borrowing spree, as greed overcomes fear, and the debt burden you point out. Not to mention increasingly reckless lending and investment practices.

Posted by: Harrow | Oct 19 2004 16:08 utc | 3