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September 22, 2004
Sovereign and Just Screw Up

Two female Iraqi scientist are in custody. They are said to have worked for Saddam’s weapon programs. A group that has killed two US hostages during the last days, and still has one British hostage, has demanded all female prisoners to be freed. It is not known whether they referred to these women. Today there were a couple of announcements on the scientists future.

  • Noori Abdul-Rahim Ibrahim, a spokesman for the Justice Ministry, said [Rihab Rashid Taha] will be released soon and on bail (NYT)

  • The Iraqi Justice Ministry said one of the two women in U.S. custody in Iraq, Rihab Taha, could be freed later in the day. (Reuters)
  • But the U.S. embassy said later that Taha and Huda Ammash, dubbed “Dr Germ” and “Mrs Anthrax” respectively by U.S. forces, would not be released soon. “The two women are in legal and physical custody of the multinational forces in Iraq and neither will be released imminently,” a spokesman said. (Reuters)

  • Kassim Daoud, the Iraqi national security adviser, said that the release would be conditional and would not happen “today, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow.” He asserted that the woman, one of three prisoners to be released, was now in the custody of the Iraqis, not the Americans, and that “Iraqi judges decided to release them because they didn’t have any evidence.” (NYT)

  • Iraqi Minister of State Kassim Daoud told journalists in Baghdad that the Iraqi judiciary had decided that there was not enough evidence to justify the continued detention of the scientists – Rihab Rashid Taha and Huda Salih Mahdi Ammash (BBC)

  • Iraq’s Justice Minister Malik al-Hassan told the BBC that he supported the release of Dr Taha (BBC)

  • The second woman, Dr Ammash, “may be released soon”, the justice ministry said. (BBC)

  • At that time both British and US officials in Iraq claimed to have been unaware of the decision. US military spokesman Lieutenant Colonel Barry Johnson said he had no information about a release. (Guardian)

  • The U.S. military says it has two Iraqi women in custody, both high-profile security detainees held at an undisclosed location (AP)

  • Justice Ministry spokesman Noori Abdul-Rahim Ibrahim announced that “Iraqi authorities have agreed with coalition forces to conditionally release Rihab Rashid Taha on bail.” (AP)

  • But soon afterward, a U.S. Embassy spokesman ruled out any immediate release. The two female scientists from Saddam’s regime “are in our legal and physical custody. Legal status of these two and many others is under constant review,” (AP)

  • Following the embassy statement, Iraq’s national security adviser, Kassim Daoud, said that Iraqi judges have ordered the conditional release of three prisoners in U.S. custody, including one of two women held by U.S. forces. (WaPo)

  • Iraqi judges decided to release them because they didn’t have any evidence. The judges decided on a conditional release. It will not happen today, tomorrow or the day after tomorrow,” he said. (WaPo)

  • Representatives of the Iraqi government and U.S. coalition forces have identified a group of about 14 high-value detainees, including Taha, who may be eligible for release because they are no longer needed for questioning and do not pose a security threat, a multinational force official said on condition of anonymity. (AP)

  • The Iraqi government has already assented to all the names on the list, the official said. The list has gone to coalition forces and the U.S. Embassy for final approval. (AP)

  • The Iraqi government has also made a special request for the release of Ammash on humanitarian grounds, the official said. … her case requires a Pentagon review. (AP)

  • After the U.S. Embassy in Baghdad said there would be no immediate release of either of the two women in U.S. custody, Iraqi Prime Minister Ayad Allawi said there were no immediate plans to free the detainees. (AP)

  • Ayad Allawi, interim Iraqi prime minister, said that any releases had not yet been decided, and that he has the final decision on any prisoners who should be released (NYT)

Sources:
New York Times (NYT) Iraqi Officials Say Female Inmate Is to Be Released Washington Post (WaPo) Two Dozen Killed, 150 Wounded in Iraq BBC Rift over Saddam scientists’ fate Associated Press (AP) U.S.: Iraqi Prisoners Won’t Be Released Reuters Hope Fades for UK Iraq Hostage as U.S. Stands Firm Guardian Chaos surrounds hostage’s fate

Bush Iraq policy:

Keeping just how much trouble we’re in quiet until Nov. 2. But these days, it seems that part of the policy is no more successful than the rest of it. Over the past weeks, the failure of the Bush Iraq policy has become so inescapable that even John Kerry has noticed it.

Iraq situation gets worse — very loudly

Spread the word please.

Comments

It’s hard to think of anything new to say about the stunning dumbness Washington displays daily in Iraq. I feel numb.

Posted by: maxcrat | Sep 23 2004 0:53 utc | 1

No one picks up on the following fact when I mention it, but since it means a lot to me–and in situations like this one it certainly means a lot to me–I’ll mention it once again: George Bush, as the Governor of Texas, sent one hundred and fifty convicted men and women, one by one, to their deaths by lethal injection. The man’s a serial killer (not a merciful person). Licensed to do so by Texas, he presided more executions than Henry the Eighth of England (and he got his start by blowing up frogs with firecrackers). I believe that John Kerry understands this very well–which is why he’s taken to pounding Bush into the ground like a wooden post. This kind of pounding has a benign effect: Bush, elected or otherwise, will by despised by far too many people to govern the country.

Posted by: alabama | Sep 23 2004 2:25 utc | 2

alabama: The man’s a serial killer (not a merciful person). Licensed to do so by Texas, he presided more executions than Henry the Eighth of England (and he got his start by blowing up frogs with firecrackers).
Said so well I felt like repeating it. One of the taglines going around from the Rude Pundit is: George Bush wants to kills you!
His harming animals as a child is the first of the iron triangle of early warning signs for serial killers … now all we need to know is if he was a bedwetter (past the age of six), and his proclivity for lighting fires. But even if he doesn’t satisfy all three he still has a deep need to be a part of the killing of many people. He’s passive-aggressive as hell. Is a documented multiple substance abuser. Alabama has it deadnuts on, even though we’re told not to diagnose from a distance. Dubya fits the bill. A book I’ve read many times is M. Scott Peck’s “People of the Lie”. The whole book is a good read, but his chapter that deals with what happens when this type of person gains some power is particularly illuminating. “The Dead Zone” anyone?
Mind you I think the cabal is just using Dubya’s pathologies to their advantage. I see him as mostly a cardboard cutout, but his damaged self cannot be denied. Then we could talk about his mommy dearest, Babs, with whom he has a love/hate relationship … another on the list for the developing psycho/sociopath.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Sep 23 2004 2:42 utc | 3

Found this in my dusty quotations archives:
Senator William Fulbright, in his popular bestseller of the 1960s, “The Arrogance of Power”, masterfully described the essence of power-hungry politics as the pursuit of power; this he conceived as an end in itself. “The causes and consequences of war may have more to do with pathology than with politics,” he wrote, “more to do with irrational pressures of pride and pain than with rational calculation of advantage and profit.”

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Sep 23 2004 2:59 utc | 4

More than Henry VIII; hadn’t thought about that.
Can’t we just beat the pathetic fucker to death and just forget about it.

Posted by: Neanderthal | Sep 23 2004 3:01 utc | 5

On second thought, not necessary at all, and probably excessive,redundant, and cruel:
Heroic Fighter Pilot Falls Out of Plane: Hits Head on Tarmac
Confused Pilot No Match For Naval Gunnery

Posted by: Neanderthal | Sep 23 2004 3:58 utc | 6

For disecting the psychological motivations of dear leaders, I also recommend the book For Your Own Good by Alice Miller. Excellent post mortem analysis of Hitler’s psychopathy in one of the chapters.
Assuming Bush psychopathy, it makes one wonder about the mental health of the twins.

Posted by: gylangirl | Sep 23 2004 13:29 utc | 7

John Kerry understands this very well–which is why he’s taken to pounding Bush into the ground like a wooden post. This kind of pounding has a benign effect: Bush, elected or otherwise, will be despised by far too many people to govern the country.
Exactly.
And as the election started to turn, as Kerry started to find his “ganas,” he became willing to polarize America.
Here is why that is so important:
Should Bush win again, you can be absolutely certain his administration will use the partriot act and the no-fly list to go to war against ordinary dissenters.
But the more dissenters there are, the more difficult it will be for the bullies in the administration to play that evil game.
Polarization may well prove to be Kerry’s most vital role in history.
So let’s hope he keeps whacking away at that nasty wooden post until it splinters.

Posted by: koreyel | Sep 23 2004 14:09 utc | 8

I had a dream last night that Dick Cheney was stripped nekkid, wires attached to his balls, and pleading for his life on videotape while being interrogated about some of the secret orders he is known to have given.
Sorry for the nasty image ~ only a dream.

Posted by: rapt | Sep 23 2004 14:22 utc | 9

I second Alice Miller’s “For Your Own Good”, and also recommend her “Thou Shalt Not Be Aware”.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Sep 23 2004 14:56 utc | 10

On reading back through this tread this morning, I realize I left out a word in my first post. Post should read:
Can’t we just beat the pathetic fucker to death rhetorically and just forget about it.
Actually, Kerry is doing a pretty good job of rhetorical pounding, all by himself.
Our help might indeed be excessive, redundant and
cruel.
Strange dreams you have there Rapt. I am so repulsed by the evil of these people (see Kate Storm) on The People of the Lie above, that I wouldn’t want to be within 20 miles of that interrogation room. Remember that movie starring Denzel Washington and John Goodman awhile back?
That evil spirit might get into you if you get too close.

Posted by: Neanderthal | Sep 23 2004 15:11 utc | 11

No wonder it´s screwed up…

The prime minister said something very interesting a while ago and it’s important for the American people to understand. Our strategy is to help the Iraqis help themselves. It’s important that we train Iraqi troops. There are nearly 100,000 troops trained.
The Afghan national army is a part of the army.
By the way, it’s the Afghan national army that went into Najaf and did the work there.

Transcript: Bush, Allawi Speak

Posted by: b | Sep 23 2004 20:24 utc | 12

on the italian hostages it seems clear to me that there kidnapping is not the work of the resistance – there is no benefit for them in any sense & even the operational details (unmasked, their number, location, target)would make it much more evident that it is a death squad associated with the americans & their puppet allawi.
it is exactly like the process used by death squads in latin america
these italians were well known for their works & for their capacity to witness in extremely dangerous situations fallujah, basra & mosul
it is clear that the americans do not want witnesses to their atrocities & they have been consistent in that policy – another thing they have learned from latin america & especially chile
the targets of the resistance on the other hand have all been connected to the infrastructure – the kidnappers in their psychopathy only parallel that of the americans
this situation is also true for the french journalists – thus the extremely elliptic negotiations
even in the least conspiratorial sense – the american strategy has allowed & even encouraged a level of criminal activity – which for its own purposed attaches ‘political’ revendications
the criminalisation of resistance has also been part & parcel of an anglo american strategy in relation to fundamentally political groups whether it was in northern ireland or el salvador or even inside the belly of the beast itself with the black panther party
& so becomes self fulfilling
as in all the wished of this most corrupt empire
still steel

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Sep 23 2004 21:17 utc | 13

Neanderthal… one of the things Peck mentions is that when in the presence of evil, one over the top feeling is to “get away”. That is exactly what I feel when I read anything about these US powers that be… I don’t want to be anywhere near them. My instincts are good, I think.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Sep 23 2004 22:36 utc | 14

rgiap, the one US victim was also one known to be a fighter for Iraq reconstruction… Makes me wonder who is actually doing the executions.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Sep 23 2004 22:39 utc | 15

R-Giap: Indeed I have some serious suspicions. Notably, there wasn’t ANY video of the Italian hostages, which makes it likely they’re in the hands of an entirely different group than the usual culprits. The French journalists seem a bit weird too; at first I supposed they were just kidnapped for money, then sold to the highest bidder on the hostage market, and another group got them. Now, they’ve said they were released since some time and still no news, so I’m wondering if the kidnappers weren’t monitored and secretly set up by some other shadowy group (either Allawi or directly some US covert op), who now has them under direct guard.
Whatever, I collected a few very revealing bits of news last week in a Kos diaries, and it seems just as relevant now than 7 days ago, alas.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Sep 24 2004 0:06 utc | 16