Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
August 20, 2004
Teen Sex

“The thunder of teen sexual activity and dating behavior may signal the lightning of substance abuse”
Joseph A. Califano, Jr. –
Chairman and President of CASA

Google News today finds 243 stories with headlines like:

All are based on a study (pdf) released yesterday by the Center on Addiction and Substance Abuse (CASA) at Columbia University.
The papers base their stories on the press release which hightlights:

SEXUALLY ACTIVE FRIENDS AND DATING PRACTICES CAN SIGNAL INCREASE IN A TEEN’S SUBSTANCE ABUSE RISK – Girls Who Date Boys Two or More Years Older Likelier to Smoke, Drink, Get Drunk, and Use Illegal Drugs.

Other key findings on the first few of the studies 70 pages are:

Fifty-six percent of 12- to 17-year olds surveyed report they have friends who are sexually active. The more sexually active friends a teen has, the likelier that teen is to smoke, drink or use illegal drugs.

Meme: Sexual activity induces drug usage.

A teen, half or more of whose friends regularly view and download Internet pornography, is three times likelier to smoke, drink or use illegal drugs than a teen who has no such friends.

Meme: Internet pornography makes teens use drugs.

CASA surveys have consistently shown that the more often children have dinner with their parents, the less likely they are to smoke, drink or use illegal drugs.

Meme: Traditional family life forestalls drug usage.

Such are the Key Findings. Now lets take an unusual dive into the depth of the study:

The incidence of sexually active friends ranges from 28 percent of 12-year olds to 79 percent of 17-year old.

i.e.: When teens grow older they are more likely to have sex and are more likely to smoke pot.

The prevalence of teens with friends who regularly view and download pornography from the Internet increases with age, from nearly one-third of 12-year olds (31 percent) to nearly two-thirds of 17-year olds (61 percent).

i.e.: When teens grow older they are more likely to look at porn and are more likely to drink bear.

As teens get older they are less likely to have dinner with their families on a regular basis. Thirty-two percent of 17-year olds have dinner seven nights a week with their families compared to 56 percent of 13-year olds.

i.e.: When teens are younger they are more likely to have family dinner and are less likely to have sex, to smoke, to drink and to look at porn.

To be fair, the study finds the simple connection. Short before the appendix it says:

Age remains one of the best predictors of risk in the CASA survey: as a teen gets older, his or her substance-abuse risk increases.

But the well researched New York Times, as 242 other newspapers, would never print such banalities. That may well fit the intentions of Columba Bush, First Lady of Florida, and of some other boardmembers of CASA.

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Addendum:

Unlike other surveys, the one by the Columbia group did not ask teens about their own sexual activity, but asked them to estimate how many of their friends were sexually active. It was conducted this way because the ethical review board that oversees the center would not approve a direct question

USA Today: Survey: Teen sex, marijuana, alcohol use all linked

Posted by: b | Aug 20 2004 17:29 utc | 1

@B:
There’s probably a film clip in the making.
Something like Beaver Cleaver admonishing the youth from his cell on death row, about the insidious dangers lurking in the world, and how he was brought low by them.

Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 20 2004 17:49 utc | 2

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and everyone is writing a book.”
Marcus Tullius Cicero, statesman, orator and writer (106-43 BCE)
“Oh, we got trouble, my friends,
We got trouble right here in River City,
Gotta figure out a way to keep the young ones
moral after school.”
Prof. Harold Hill, River City, Iowa (early 20th C.)

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 20 2004 17:58 utc | 3

They forgot the next logical (ahem) step: when teens look at porn, drink and do drugs, they turn into twentysomething EVILDOERS!!

Posted by: NEPAJim | Aug 20 2004 18:05 utc | 4

Is it just because the weather’s getting warmer, is it just me–or has there been an alarming amount of reporting on how sexual purity of various sorts is intrinsically related to the health of body politic in the last six months?
I remember reading in ideological-critical books about the British reaction to the French revolution (Ronald Paulson and David Simpson leap to mind) that the counter-revolutionary movement saw the proto-feminists as the most profound political threat of the time–and while the arguments made sense, I didn’t quite believe it. Then.
Now, it’s starting to seem like controlling sexuality is at the center of the entire ideological war, as the Christian and Islamic fundamentalists have positioned it.
I know it’s not the only element of human life that the fundamentalists would like to control, but it seems to be emerging as a horrible point of convergence between the two.
Has anyone been writing intelligently on this subject whom I shoud read?

Posted by: Jackmormon | Aug 20 2004 18:18 utc | 5

“Times are bad. Children no longer obey their parents, and kids do worse at school.”
Babylonian clay tablet, 1545 BC
As Jérôme noticed in a previous thread, most people, notably in the media, but apparently even academics, have a thin knowledge of statistics. In this case, these idiots don’t get that correlation doesn’t mean causality. In fact, here, it may just be that both variables are symptoms of a similar cause. Or one could even suggest that they just got the causalities the other way around, which indeed would be quite obvious (kid addicts probably have more friends who’re also into sex, drugs and internet porn than the average kiddie, and you’re more prone to sex when you’re stoned or drunk because you’re less inhibited). Or it could be twisted in many other ways, of course.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 20 2004 19:04 utc | 6

But, but… does that mean that today’s US-teenagers in the US will not grow up to be better-than-us, heterosexual, monogamous, healthy-living, God-FEARING, energy-consuming, rapture-craving, evolution-rejecting Christian souls willing to let others share in the gift of the greatest nation on earth ™ once in a while?
No operation Irani freedom, Korean freedom, Syrian freedom, Afghanistan this-time-you-WILL-get-freedom-or-else?
Oh dear.

Posted by: teuton | Aug 20 2004 19:49 utc | 7

US-teenagers in the US… right. No, I have not been smoking that.

Posted by: teuton | Aug 20 2004 19:50 utc | 8

What a lot of garbage (the study, not the posts here.) As I interpret it, the “internet” and “porn” are the key words. Neo-cons would love to control the internet lke China does. They pander to the fundies by linking internet and porn. Danger is all over the place! But not, of course, on the TV. Control of people’s sex lives is a number one agenda for all domineering fundamentalists.
Teen (single) pregancy is down all over the ‘developed’ world, since 1985 at least (of the top of my head), including the US. AIDS is down in many developed countries as well (condoms, sex later, etc.) Illegal drugs are not responsible for many deaths in the US (a few thousand per year). Marijuana has never caused any deaths at all (barring the heavily and multiply intoxicated driving cars, no stats. available afaik).
off the net, no guarantee:
More than three million men, women, and children died on America’s roads and highways in the Twentieth Century.

Posted by: Blackie | Aug 20 2004 19:53 utc | 9

Ergo: If you are a teen and want some drugs, have sex, and soon.

Posted by: biklett | Aug 20 2004 20:51 utc | 10

Filthy old man screws young journalists
Back in love – Rumsfeld and the American media

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 20 2004 22:12 utc | 11

Nemo, nothing triggers my gag reflex more than seeing or hearing Rummy, unless it’s seeing or hearing Poppy Bush, and that’s dating back to the 1980s. Descriptive phrases include: Makes my skin crawl. Makes me want to scrub myself all over with pumice soap. As bad as knowing about the abuse of children and animals.
M. Scott Peck, in “The People of the Lie” says one of your self-barometers when in the presence of pathological evil is feeling an urgent desire to get as far away from it/him/them as possible as quickly as possible.
That about covers it.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 20 2004 23:32 utc | 12

Now, it’s starting to seem like controlling sexuality is at the center of the entire ideological war, as the Christian and Islamic fundamentalists have positioned it.
I couldn’t agree more. After all, isn’t that what the abortion debate is really all about? How girls shouldn’t be having sex in the first place?
And how about the gay marriage amendment? Really, at the heart of it, the whole objection is about sexuality … you know, that awful, awful way homosexuals go about it.
Religious extremists — in both Muslim and Christian countries — just cannot keep their heads and hearts out of other people’s bedrooms.

Posted by: SusanG | Aug 20 2004 23:36 utc | 13

Nice Kate.
You just made all your most worthy ancestors smile all the way back to Eve.
And yeah…
Adam too.

Posted by: koreyel | Aug 20 2004 23:38 utc | 14

Susan,
Only slightly tangential… I’m looking forward to being able to buy Leonard Shlain’s newest book, Sex, Time and Power. I’ve read two of his other books, and based on the presale reviews I don’t think I’ll be disappointed with this one.
Quote: “Leonard Shlain explores how these archaic insights about sex, time and power dramatically altered all subsequent human cultures, from the nature of courtship to the institution of marriage to the evolution of language. Along the way, the author also offers innovative and provocative theories concerning the human origins of menstrual harmony among closeknit women, homosexuality, superstition, masturbation, early menopause, circumcision, left-handedness, baldness, color blindness, sadism, and orgasms.”

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 21 2004 0:17 utc | 15

koreyel: Nice Kate. You just made all your most worthy ancestors smile all the way back to Eve.
And yeah… Adam too.

Thanks, koreyel. 😉 Some necessary survival instincts remain. When I think of the likes of Rummy the Rum I think that Harold Pinter had him and them in mind…
After Lunch
And after noon the well-dressed creatures come
To sniff among the dead
And have their lunch

And all the many well-dressed creatures pluck
The swollen avocados from the dust
And stir the minestrone with stray bones

And after lunch
They loll and lounge about
Decanting claret in convenient skulls

Humanoid-resembling velociraptors with higher cerebral corteses of no redeeming value.
[shudder]

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 21 2004 0:25 utc | 16

Almost forgot to mention that the swooning, corrupt members of the Fourth Estate who toady up to him are no different than the mesmerized chittering, chortling, dribbling, jibbering Mr. Renfield, playing their part in the protection of their own personal Rumsferatu.
I’m an equal opportunity lambaster. 😉

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 21 2004 0:31 utc | 17

@Kate
“Rumsferatu”. I love it!
You just made my day, lady. Thanks for that, and the Pinter quote.

Posted by: prof fate | Aug 21 2004 5:48 utc | 18

my my, i have a basement of teens as we speak.
lets see, was i young once?
did fuck in the woods in back of the reservoir up cascade canyon? under the old mill bridge? in the tam high stairwell?
take acid?
survive?
was i curious>?
sexual?
in love?
sell pot?
suck dick?
trip all night on mt.tam?
peyote in the desert?
drink cool aid w/ owsley and the dead?
cruz the haight?
dance naked on bolinas beach @ sunrise?
yes yes yes yes and it made me who i am today. the last generation to not fear aids,if only for a few years.
did our generation radically change the course of american politics and culture forever?
would i change any moment of my history?
am i all fucked up because of it?
i worry more about a youth that knows life thru a cell phone. malls.corporate america. sex? haven’t teens been having that since the beginning of time? and drugs?whatever. i don’t have all the answers.

Posted by: annie | Aug 21 2004 6:01 utc | 19

Isn’t it interesting that the ones fighting sex most are the ‚Saulus turned into Paulus’, that the biggest sinners are the ones trying to keep the others from making their own experiences. I agree with Annie, I consider the cell phone addiction of today’s youth a bigger problem. If that is all the ‘real’ experience young people can have today, I am really sorry for them and I can understand very well why they get turned off and try to run away from it by using drugs. As if that would be something new. Sometimes it is frustrating to see how limited the world has become for children and teens, all those restrictions. Just one example, something simple as playing out by themselves on the streets, I we used to do when I was a child, has become way to dangerous. Where has the space gone for all those exploration of the surrounding and playing adventure to satisfy our curiosity – where can they live it today?
As if we were not curious. Ok. we didn’t have the internet to download pornography, but I remember those whispered discussions behind our hands that boys are looking at playboy magazines – imagine that, and the disappointment when I actually got to see a centerfold. You can see much more in any anatomy book, but the talks were fun anyway. Or the heavy discussion if we should go to a sauna, I mean all those naked bodies, male and female. Now looking back, it seems all so innocent and still it was part of the important process of growing up. From my observation I have the impression that children are more and more looked at as little grown ups, tight schedules, adults would go on the streets to demonstrate for work hour reductions with similar agendas. I pity children more and more. I think we are stealing them of important experiences and we are destroying the world they loaned to us.

Posted by: Fran | Aug 21 2004 7:02 utc | 20

Another of those “starts from a fantasy framework” studies.. Kind of ignoring the teens who are desperate to get out the house so that Daddy or Uncle or big brother won’t be forcing them to have sex. Not a majority, afaik, unless things are far worse than we know. But also kids most likely to resort to drugs — vulnerable to other exploiters, pimps, etc.
Funny how the submerged bit of the iceberg — child sexual abuse in commercial porn and prostitution (and in the home) gets conveniently ignored while we worry about [White middle class] kids getting it on with each other after school.

Posted by: DeAnander | Aug 21 2004 7:20 utc | 21

Of course all the moralizers ‘tsk tsk’ at the young, as if there is no profitable world of vice operating globally as a multi-billion dollar industry and only too willing to absorb the very young and vulnerable, along with the coerced and the unfortunates sold by human traffickers. I very much doubt if the very young are the client-base for this enterprise. Similarly, it is hardly the young who head up the lucrative drugs cartels of the world. Perhaps, given the resounding success of the War on Drugs and the War on Terror, the CASA Report signals the opening shots of a new campaign, or rather a revisiting of the scene of the great late 1950’s crusade – the War on Teenagers. As the US military is one of the leading customers and promoters of prostitution around military bases worldwide there is an obvious solution to the undisciplined, uncontrolled sexual activity that the CASA research has ‘discovered’ – Conscription anyone?
More than 8,000 prostitutes working in London’s brothels

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 21 2004 8:27 utc | 22

Quote:
“What a lot of garbage (the study, not the posts here.)”…
***
I can’t agree more. There is so much there to research about teens and sex and drugs end families and culture and…and…and to make some really relevant and intelligent correlations but this one is pure shit. But did they ( Bushco and their fanatics) produce anything else anyway?
I also feel sooo sorry for today children. No wonder that people today are so hesitant to bring children in this world…What a pity that we allowed this world to be what it is today. Moral definitely is ruined but teenagers have nothing to do with it. They are victims and hypocrisy of old filthy men is just something that makes me vomit …I am straggling to find words ugly enough for this bunch…and I fail…

Posted by: vbo | Aug 21 2004 9:42 utc | 23

It just occured to me that the anti-science background that allows for such studies to be presented in the press is in full sight in the cite:
The thunder of teen sexual activity and dating behavior may signal the lightning of substance abuse
This sentence was definitly prepared and thought about before the press conference. It was not a spontanious thought. But this man well says that the speed of sound is faster than the speed of light. Did one ever hear thunder before one saw the lightning?
BTW: Now there are 252 related stories at Google.

Posted by: b | Aug 21 2004 10:00 utc | 24

This just in…..
Kids who chase rabbits catch a few white ones!

Posted by: RossK | Aug 21 2004 16:49 utc | 25

As the caterpillar chooses the fairest leaves to lay her eggs on, so
the priest lays his curse on the fairest joys.
– William Blake, Marriage of Heaven & Hell
The socio-sexual circuit is activated and imprinted at adolescence,
when the DNA signal awakens the sexual apparatus. The
teenager becomes the bewildered possessor of a new body and a
new neural circuit oriented to orgasm and sperm-egg fusion. The
pubescent human, like any other rutting animal, lurches about in
a state of mating frenzy, every call gasping for the sexual object.
Imprint vulnerability is acute, and the first sexual signals to
turn on the adolescent nervous system remain fixed for life and
forever define the individual’s sexual reality.
We should not be surprised, therefore, at the various fetishes
that are so easily acquired at these sensitive moments.
In fact, we can tell precisely at what period in time a person
was sexually imprinted by noting which fetishes continue to turn
him or her on. Black garters, booze, cool jazz, and crew cuts
define the sexual signals of one imprint group (generation) just
as rigidly as sleeping hags, marijuana, heavy rock and tight
jeans define another.
As Masters and Johnson have pointed out, most sexual dysfunctions
are hooked into the nervous system at these adolescent
moments of acute imprint vulnerability; their archetypal case is
that of a male who, about to mate for the first time, in the back
seat of a car, was traumatized by a policeman flashing a light on
him and his paramour. The imprint of that ghastly moment was
hooked for decades: the male remained impotent until reimprinted
by Masters and Johnson in their clinic.
The choices of heterosexuality or homosexuality, brash promiscuity
or timid celibacy, etc. are usually imprinted by exactly
similar accidents at points of imprint vulnerability. Just as biosurvival
anxiety or security are imprinted by accidents in the
nursing period, emotional domination or submission by accidents
in the toddling period, symbolic dexterity or “stupidity” by
the accidents of the learning environment.
Primitives (so-called) know these facts and surround all the
points of imprint vulnerability with rituals, “ordeals,” “rites of
passage,” etc. well designed to imprint the desired traits of a
well-integrated member of that tribe at that time. Relics of these
imprint ceremonies survive in Baptism, Confirmation, Bar Mitzvahs,
Marriage Ceremonies, the Masonic “raising,” etc.
Exceprt From:Prometheus rising by Robert Anton Wilson
Father please don’t send us to hell for our bioloical needs!…lmao

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 21 2004 19:16 utc | 26

Thats a goodun Uncle. Right to the point and informative.
A little OT:
In reference to a post near here a couple of days ago (long riff on psychology between alabama and the prof as I recall) speaking of Mama Barb’s tough motherhood and how it guided her son’s future brain patterns.
When I was younger I made the unscientific (no data or charts) observation that many homosexual men had been raised by dominant mothers. Lately I’ve heard little about that correlation; more along the lines of ~ You’re born that way ~ , and depending on who one is listening to, ~ It’s a choice ~. Ha.
But back to the Dub. There are rumors that he has kept a male lover on the side; perhaps not recently though.

Posted by: rapt | Aug 21 2004 20:59 utc | 27

Speaking of teens…
YOU’LL BE GLAD TO KNOW THAT guns-drawn raids on innocent high school kids are A-OK and don’t violate anybody’s rights. Whew, what a relief! For a while there, I thought some of our Sacred Men in Blue might actually have been behaving like a gang of criminal raiders. How could I ever have doubted their saintly perfection?

Posted by: Uncle $cam | Aug 21 2004 21:21 utc | 28

Late to the party again.
Sigh.
Bernhard sez –

i.e.: When teens are younger they are more likely to have family dinner and are less likely to have sex, to smoke, to drink and to look at porn.

So the real problem is the aging process.
Shoulda known.
My solution?
Soylent Teen.

Posted by: sasando | Aug 24 2004 1:07 utc | 29