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August 3, 2004
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US$ 8,800,000,000 of Iraqi money disbursed by the CPA Missed in Action Posted by: b | Aug 3 2004 8:33 utc | 1 could you move that 2ed to the last post from off topic to here?you did that while i was a cogitating.thanks Posted by: anna mist | Aug 3 2004 9:29 utc | 2 @anna – only this way Posted by: b | Aug 3 2004 9:53 utc | 3 WTF is going on here: Posted by: vbo | Aug 3 2004 12:38 utc | 4 @NEMO: Posted by: Harold | Aug 3 2004 13:53 utc | 5 So, in less than one year the CPA managed to “lose” 9 billions. Fine. I’ll keep that in mind the next time I meet some freeper who claims that Palestinians are a bunch of terrorists that don’t get a damn about their corrupt Arafat who wasted hundreds of millions in the last 10 years. They would be right, Arafat’s clique are a bunch of amateurs compared to Bremer, Chalabi and co. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 3 2004 14:03 utc | 6 b Posted by: anna mist | Aug 3 2004 15:16 utc | 7 Get the hell out of the way! Posted by: æ | Aug 3 2004 15:34 utc | 8 Many countries have higher voter participation rates than ours. If you want to raise the US voting rate, think systematically rather than individually. Posted by: gylangirl | Aug 3 2004 16:12 utc | 9 Yep, I certainly agree that there are systemic barriers to full participation, and I’d love to see those addressed. But since electoral reform is anathama to politicians, apparently, I don’t see any real improvements coming in the short-term. Posted by: æ | Aug 3 2004 16:53 utc | 10 Check out the CJR Campaign Desk’s little quiz on current events- it’s a hoot! Posted by: æ | Aug 3 2004 17:59 utc | 11 @ae: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 3 2004 18:59 utc | 12 @FLASHHARRY- Posted by: æ | Aug 3 2004 19:37 utc | 13 A fine day to vote out any scoundral that I don’t like. Yes, its primary day and what a good day it is. I voted against all incumbents. Posted by: jdp | Aug 3 2004 19:44 utc | 14 Those poles are so full of shit. Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 3 2004 19:59 utc | 15 @jdp- Posted by: æ | Aug 3 2004 20:09 utc | 16 Via TPM Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 3 2004 20:33 utc | 17 CP, a song comes to mind, does it not: Posted by: teuton | Aug 3 2004 21:24 utc | 19 Some VERY INTERESTING discussions now taking Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 3 2004 21:42 utc | 21 CP, agreed, and he’s not even holy. When I was in Dublin (only once so far), I saw a graffiti: “God thinks he’s Bono”. Posted by: teuton | Aug 3 2004 21:59 utc | 22 Hello people,
DOT TWO:
DOT THREE:
A famous someone tried once to connect them into a picture:
Methinks the gentleman connects the right dots but the picture should be reversed. Is Egypt now ripe to plucked by the hand of the Islamic Revolution? Posted by: MarcinGomulka | Aug 3 2004 22:01 utc | 23 @MarcinGomulka: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 3 2004 22:45 utc | 24 Murawiec is a weirdo. I still have to see what reason anyone would have to invade and conquer Egypt. They don’t have oil. The only problem is the Suez canal, and even if it’s shut oil will still come to the US. That’s some weird stuff I don’t really see yet. Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 3 2004 23:53 utc | 25 @CluelessJoe: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 4 2004 0:23 utc | 26 @ æ Posted by: Juannie | Aug 4 2004 1:35 utc | 27 I don’t think I’ll ever go out of my way to help get someone registered who I think will vote for chimpy but I would at least encourage everyone to get involved in our democracy. Posted by: Juannie | Aug 4 2004 1:40 utc | 28 Juannie: Posted by: lonesomeG | Aug 4 2004 2:45 utc | 29 Juannie- Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 2:56 utc | 30 @lonesomeG: Posted by: Cartman Lee | Aug 4 2004 3:05 utc | 31 For anybody that’s interested, the Bush being AWOL story has legs. Posted by: sukabi | Aug 4 2004 5:21 utc | 32 ae– Posted by: RossK | Aug 4 2004 7:52 utc | 34 Connect Sa-Dat? Posted by: fiumana bella | Aug 4 2004 8:34 utc | 35 Robert Fisk back from Iraq: Iraq on verge of implode
Posted by: b | Aug 4 2004 10:55 utc | 36 @fiumana bella: Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 4 2004 13:04 utc | 37 @ lonesomeG Posted by: Juannie | Aug 4 2004 14:34 utc | 38 Moral dilemna aside, please understand that the other side does actively suppress. Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 15:52 utc | 39 From Juan Cole, “They’re Offended by the Offensive” Posted by: Pat | Aug 4 2004 16:27 utc | 40 My teenaged daughter, a libertarian-minded kid, has for the past year been dating what we call a Birkenstock leftist. The other day she asked me: Why is it that almost all the smart, thinking kids are on the Left, and the ones who are on the Right are usually non-thinking parrots? Posted by: Pat | Aug 4 2004 16:59 utc | 41 The fun never ends for the empire. From the AEI website: Posted by: Pat | Aug 4 2004 17:10 utc | 42 @Pat, Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 17:55 utc | 44 @Pat Posted by: b real | Aug 4 2004 18:36 utc | 45 @Pat SUDAN Posted by: b | Aug 4 2004 18:57 utc | 46 “anti-intellectualism is, among other things, a product of religous obeisance, in my mind” Posted by: Pat | Aug 4 2004 20:29 utc | 47 In an older Off Topic thread I was asked why I was against the military to provide internal security functions. In Israel on teh way to its own version of fascisms this happens In the heart of the city, in the middle of the day. A well known film director is going to meet the spokesman of the military and at the gates he gets beaten and his bones get broken by the military security. No investigations follow. Posted by: b | Aug 4 2004 20:38 utc | 48 Sovereign Iraq: U.S. Troops Arrest Iraqi Police Colonel In Ramadi: Police
Posted by: b | Aug 4 2004 20:47 utc | 49 Pat- Oh No! birkenstocks! 🙂 Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 21:38 utc | 50 @Faux: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 4 2004 21:58 utc | 51 I should probably have qualified my statement, as it’s certainly true that some religions require more subserviance than others- buddhists, for example, are not known for for their extremist ways. Unless you count self-immolation, I suppose. Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 22:16 utc | 52 @fauxreal Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 22:25 utc | 53 I’m not a granola-eating birkenstock wearing liberal, but I have tolerance for you all. 🙂 Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 22:28 utc | 54 FWIW- Posted by: æ | Aug 4 2004 22:33 utc | 55 ae, Posted by: SusanG | Aug 4 2004 22:48 utc | 56 FlashHarry- yes, I read the New Yorker piece. It gives me no sympathy for the Islamic revolution to read that the newspapers publish defenses of Hitler, or, as I noted before, spew bile by quoting the Protocols of the Elders of Zion. Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 22:53 utc | 57 BONNIE AND CLYDE, BUSH, AND KERRY CAMPAIGN IN IOWA Posted by: Imitatio Nemo | Aug 4 2004 22:53 utc | 58 @Faux: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 4 2004 23:04 utc | 59 And just to make things interesting let’s throw this into the mix: Posted by: sukabi | Aug 4 2004 23:06 utc | 60 FlashHarry- my Celtic-French (it’s like Irish, but without the “h”…or something like that) got up when I read that article. Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 23:19 utc | 61 pardon me, please, but I have the urge to don a tin foil hat and I need someone to talk some fashion sense into me. Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 23:35 utc | 62 oh, and the return mail thing has an attachment…which I haven’t opened. is this how mail is usually returned from aohell? Posted by: fauxreal | Aug 4 2004 23:40 utc | 63 Getting back to Pat’s 12:59 comment(not to disregard all the comments since, but I just got home from work. Tried to follow this thread a bit at work today, but I don’t dare post from there.) Posted by: maxcrat | Aug 5 2004 0:18 utc | 64 @Faux: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 5 2004 0:26 utc | 65 @ b 2:57 PM re SUDAN & oil Posted by: Juannie | Aug 5 2004 1:41 utc | 66 Juannie, a couple points: Posted by: Ramlad | Aug 5 2004 1:50 utc | 67 Flash and Faux, Posted by: SME in Seattle | Aug 5 2004 1:54 utc | 68 @ Ramlad, Posted by: Juannie | Aug 5 2004 2:19 utc | 69 @fauxreal Posted by: æ | Aug 5 2004 2:41 utc | 71 Cartier-Bresson dies Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 6:11 utc | 72 Interesting article from this mornings Guardian. Posted by: Fran | Aug 5 2004 7:19 utc | 73 Interesting article from this mornings Guardian. Posted by: Fran | Aug 5 2004 7:20 utc | 74 Ups, must be really important information – don’t know how the double post happend. Posted by: Fran | Aug 5 2004 7:21 utc | 75 I can see why the US are pissed off at kidnappings – it Works! Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 5 2004 7:22 utc | 76 nemo Posted by: anna mist | Aug 5 2004 7:51 utc | 77 Cloned Poster Posted by: anna mist | Aug 5 2004 7:58 utc | 78 Once More Posted by: anna mist | Aug 5 2004 8:15 utc | 79 Looting widespread in Iraq Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 11:08 utc | 81 Supplies of brown trousers urgently required by British troops in Iraq Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 11:17 utc | 82 Fast move up slow down?General Barbara Fast back in Arizona Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 11:32 utc | 83 Jim Lobe at antiwar.com: Posted by: Pat | Aug 5 2004 11:56 utc | 84 @Pat – thx, good thought Posted by: b | Aug 5 2004 12:26 utc | 85 On the subject of Afghanistan: There was an interesting op-ed in the Moscow Times some six months ago in which the author, a Russian analyst, stated that what success the US has been able to wring out of OEF has been due largely to two things America has in abundance and knows how to use: air power and money. I’ve brought this up before with individuals who’ve spent time on the ground there, and there’s little disagreement. Posted by: Pat | Aug 5 2004 13:02 utc | 86 Not so wonderful, wonderful Copenhagen Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 13:09 utc | 87 hey pat, just wanted to say congrats on him arriving home safely. Posted by: annie | Aug 5 2004 13:17 utc | 88 If you can’t catch the real ones, entrap the wannabes Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 13:27 utc | 89 In Afghanistan it´s not the money, it´s the question of who has more money. When this years opium has been sold, the warlords in Afghanistan will have more money than the US would ever be willing to give. The next step is then to get anti-air weapons. Those were the weapons the US gave to the warlords to help them to drive out the Russians and the same kind of weapons will be needed to make trouble for the US troops who do depend on helicopters just as the Russians did. Russia and China and a bunch of former Sowjet states have plenty and the black market will take care that they reach Afghanistan. Posted by: b | Aug 5 2004 13:39 utc | 91 Dome of sacred Imam Ali shrine in Najaf damaged in clashes – conflict spreads to other parts of Iraq Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 13:47 utc | 92 Fight dehydration – catch typhoid or hepatitis E Posted by: Nemo | Aug 5 2004 14:11 utc | 93 b: I’m with you concerning India and China interested to support resistance. I just differ about Iran. A US ground assault on Iran would basically means the end of the American military power for years, at least, because most of the troops in the Middle East would be destroyed – that is, captured or killed. The only reason China or India wouldn’t want that is that it may embolden too much the Muslims. Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 5 2004 14:27 utc | 94 Something to lighten the mood – just found this on Needlenose. Posted by: Fran | Aug 5 2004 14:39 utc | 95 @NEMO: Posted by: Mr. Justice Lloyd | Aug 5 2004 16:11 utc | 97 From Imperial Hubris: Posted by: Pat | Aug 5 2004 16:39 utc | 98 @Pat, you’ve made great posts on this thread. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 5 2004 17:38 utc | 99 |
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