Here’s a better one; X174 posted this one over at Jerome’s. It a flash deal and takes a while to load.
But well worth the watch.
To the Moon, Mr. Sulu; warp factor 5:
LINK

Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 23 2004 22:30 utc | 4

As Always NEMO, thank you for presenting a most insightful link.

Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 24 2004 0:03 utc | 6

@NEMO:
I don’t think our Farking leadership can even count to 10.
You have a good evening, my friend.

Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 24 2004 0:25 utc | 8

“The gloves are coming off gentleman regarding these detainees…”
“…Col. Boltz has made it clear that we want these individuals broken. Casualties are mounting and we need to start gathering info to help protect our fellow soldiers from any further attacks….”
2003 Memo appealed for ways to break Iraqi detainees

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 24 2004 2:09 utc | 10

Just close your eyes, cross your fingers and keep saying “The world is a safer place, the world is a safer place, the world is a safer place….”

Ninety-three prominent Muslim figures opposed to US troops in Iraq have called on Muslims around the world to support resistance to US forces and to the Iraqi government installed in June.

In the appeal received on Sunday from the offices of Egypt’s Muslim Brotherhood, the Muslim figures from nearly 30 nations, from Germany to Indonesia, said the aim should be to “purify the land of Islam from the filth of occupation…”

…The signatories included senior members of the Brotherhood, leading Qatari-based moderate Youssef al-Qaradawi, Hezbollah leader Sheikh Hassan Nasrallah of Lebanon, Khaled Mashal of the Palestinian group Hamas, two Egyptian opposition party leaders, Sheikh Abdeslam Yassine of Morocco’s Justice and Charity Group and Yemeni Speaker of Parliament Sheikh Abdullah al-Ahmar.

Others came from Afghanistan, Algeria, Bahrain, Bosnia, the Comoros, Germany, India, Iran, Iraq, Jordan, Libya, Malaysia, Mauritania, Pakistan, Saudi Arabia, Somalia, South Africa, Sri Lanka, Sudan, Syria, Tajikistan and Tunisia…

Senior Muslim figures back Iraqi insurgents
Hey! Those guys have got more countries in their ‘coalition’ than the USA has! Still – holidaying at home can be just as much fun, eh?

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 24 2004 2:26 utc | 12

There’s more to al-Sadr than meets the eye

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 24 2004 3:32 utc | 14

How goes the war? Who’s winning?

“… Al-Qa’ida had sought right from the start to foster confrontation between the United States and the Islamic World. I recall Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin telling us: We as an organization cannot continue with the qualitative operations. So we have to draw the United States into a confrontation with all the Islamic peoples…”

Interview with Nasir Ahmad Nasir al-Bahri, former personal bodyguard of Osama Bin Laden

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 24 2004 5:25 utc | 16

From Nemo’s link at 1:25:
“Al-Qa’ida had sought right from the start to foster confrontation between the United States and the Islamic World. I recall Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin telling us: We as an organization cannot continue with the qualitative operations. So we have to draw the United States into a confrontation with all the Islamic peoples. This was the plan in the Somalia days. Bin Ladin had wished the capture of a single US soldier alive to make the United States withdraw and for the fighting to continue everywhere. Shaykh Usama Bin Ladin and the Al-Qa’ida have pursued this endeavor and succeeded in drawing the United States into an unequal confrontation, not from the military technology aspect, but from the ideology aspect. Muslims have now reached the point where they are fed up with the United States, which lives in prosperity off our nation’s resources. I believe that the United States is heading for its demise. As to the future of Al-Qa’ida, I believe that it has found what it wanted. It can now melt into a new caldron, and a new giant would be reborn, of which Al-Qa’ida would be a part. Many of the Islamic World leaders would join it and the confrontation with the United States would be inevitable. And, Al-Qa’ida would not be the leader but a vanguard army.”
Nemo, you and I both might want a more peaceful world, but we aren’t going to get it any time soon.
I remember you said, to rememberinggiap, that Americans deserve whatever they get. I’ve got a paycheck that says they don’t.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 24 2004 6:00 utc | 18

12.15pm, Iraq time, Spot the odd one out
Shi’ite gunmen take to the streets in Iraq’s Basra
U.S. pounds Iraq Shi’ite rebels, car bomb in Baghdad
Bombs target two ministerial convoys – five dead
Twin car blasts target Iraqi ministers – at least five dead
Nepalese workers kidnapped in Iraq
We’re making progress in Iraq – Bush

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 24 2004 8:12 utc | 20

George Monbiot at The Guardian on living without oil An answer in Somerset – The Age of Entropy is here. We should all now be learning how to live without oil

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2004 9:09 utc | 22

A report by ABC this morning of the pending Gitmo “trial” of Australian David Hicks. It was a very surreal interview of military spokesman. Listen or read the transcript.

Posted by: YY | Aug 24 2004 10:32 utc | 24

Umar Zaidan, an Iraqi journalist and editorial secretary of the Iraqi newspaper al-Basaer said there was a media blackout on armed operations against US-led occupation forces in Iraq.
…
“But after we get enough information we say a number of dead and a number of wounded, and sometimes we should elaborate how serious the wounds are, but with US forces in Iraq it is always casualties and the number always less than the truth,” he said.
Aljazeera.net spoke to Lieutenant-Colonel TV Johnson, public affairs officer of the First Marines Expeditionary Force who said the amount of information given to the media was based on tactical necessities.
“It is something all armies do in war time. You do not want the enemy to know about your actual loss, and whether he was successful in the attack he carried out on your troops or not,” he said.

Iraqi cleric slams war coverage
So what are the real numbers?

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2004 12:28 utc | 26

30,000 raids net 100 charges

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 24 2004 17:01 utc | 28

@ Blackie: “Korean sex, ha ha ha.”
The graphic artist in me says, WOW! The rest of me does too. Turn the speakers up.

Posted by: beq | Aug 24 2004 18:59 utc | 30

After giving us the run-down on What Went Wrong In Iraq (www.foreignaffairs.org), Larry Diamond writes:
“Because of the failures and shortcomings of the occupation-as well as the intrinsic difficulties that any occupation following Saddam’s tyranny was bound to confront-it is going to take a number of years to rebuild the Iraqi state and to construct any kind of viable democratic and constitutional order in Iraq. The post-handover transition is going to be long, and initially very bloody. It is not clear that the country is going to be able to conduct reasonably credible elections by next January. And even if those elections are held in a minimally acceptable fashion, it is hard to imagine that the over-ambitious transition timetable for the remainder of 2005 will be kept. Nevertheless, the end of occupation and the transfer of authority to an interim government on June 28 offered at least a chance for a new beginning. And there is no alternative to this transitional program that does not involve one awful scenario or another: civil war, massive renewed repression, the establishment of a safe haven for terrorist organizations-or quite possibly all three.
“The transition in Iraq is going to need a huge amount of international assistance-political, economic, and military-for years to come. Hopefully, the U.S. performance will improve now that Iraqis are in charge of their own future. It is going to be costly and it will continue to be frustrating. Yet a large number of courageous Iraqi democrats, many with comfortable alternatives abroad, are betting their lives and their fortunes on the belief that a new and more democratic political order can be developed and sustained in Iraq. The United States owes it to them-and to itself-to continue to help them.”
Mr. Diamond seems like a bright enough, nice enough guy, but the chances of a huge multinational effort succeeding in making Iraq a free, secure, and viable state are exceedingly bad. Stable democracies have two reqirements: a high general level of education and a large middle class. As a rule of thumb, where these are absent democracy cannot take hold.
How many times have we heard that only a bigot would suggest that Iraqis – and other Arabs – are incapable of democracy? But the problem really is that conditions are not yet favorable for democratization, which is a natural process for which there is no shortcut.
If we really wanted to encourage democracy in the Middle East then we might start by ending our subsidy of undemocratic regimes in the region. Then we could stop engaging in wars that require us to co-opt other truly unsavory Middle Eastern governments.
If democracy in the Middle East is desirable, then we might consider letting nature, rather than the US Treasury, the State Department, and the DoD, take its course.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 24 2004 19:48 utc | 32

I have my doubts concerning some of Mr. Diamond’s assumptions, most of all the following: “Hopefully, the U.S. performance will improve now that Iraqis are in charge of their own future.” Of course, I am, unlike Mr. Diamond, too underinformed to have a well-founded opinion on the matter. But, judging from what I have read (Allawi is a former CIA-asset, the handpicked interim government rules over little more than over the ground covered by US tanks and planes etc.), the insight that they are in charge of their own future seems not to be shared by the majority of Iraqis. Al-Sadr may not be the answer, but is Allawi if the US wills it?
I agree with you, Pat, let them have their own shot at democracy (if the concept as we think of it is not too fraught with our cultures’ associations). But do you really think the US will leave them alone? That would require the complete change of doctrine you have admitted you don’t see coming. Kerry will/would not be the president to change it.

Posted by: teuton | Aug 24 2004 20:05 utc | 34

@Pat
Stable democracies have two reqirements: a high general level of education and a large middle class.
Iraq is thereby the best candidate for a kind of democracy in the Middle East. It has high level of education and (had?) a decent middle class. But the only way for them to succed is without interference from the outside. Any foreign troops should leave immediately. There will be a short cival war and after that help shoudl be given from the outside, financially and through trade terms. That could probably lead to some democracy, probably to some autocracy. Foreign troops in Iraq only prolongs the bad times and does not assure or help a positive result.

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2004 20:42 utc | 36

Plame case
Time magazine reporter Matthew Cooper has avoided the threat of jail by agreeing to be interviewed yesterday by Justice Department prosecutors investigating whether White House officials illegally leaked the identity of a covert CIA operative to journalists.
Time magazine said in a statement today that Cooper agreed to give a deposition “because the one source the special counsel asked about,” Lewis I. “Scooter” Libby, chief of staff for Vice President Cheney, had waived a confidentially agreement he had with Cooper. The statement from Time spokesperson Diana Pearson said that Libby also had agreed to allow the magazine to disclose its agreement with him. Time Reporter Answers Questions About Plame Leak
This tells me that Libby was not the leak – but who knows.

Posted by: b | Aug 24 2004 20:54 utc | 38

@koreyel
“I too have that “sizable middle class is requisite for democracy” meme inside my head. Any idea of the sources? I wonder about its accuracy.”
Well, you could look at those countries that are democracies and compare their demographics to those that aren’t.
Rising and widening levels of education and affluence bring demands for greater individual autonomy, social equality, and political participation. (Think of the civil rights movement in the US, for instance.) It really is a spontaneous process, and not always a peaceful one.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 24 2004 21:47 utc | 40

Koreyel, I would first ask for their opinion. So it is hard to respond .. ?
One Muslim against democracy:
UPI Interview with Gen. Hameed Gul (former chief of ISI), 26 Sept. 2001.
We need a meeting, not a clash, of civilizations. We are on the brink of disaster. It is time to pull back from the brink and reassess before we blow ourselves up. The purpose of Islam is service to humanity. The time for like-minded people to have a meeting of the minds is now.
…..
Q: But you are against democracy, so how can there be a meeting of the minds?
A: Democracy does not work. Politicians are constantly thinking of their next election, not the public good, which means, at best, constantly shading the truth to hide it from their constituents. Their pronouncements are laced with lies and the voters are lulled or gulled into believing utter nonsense. The Koran says call a spade a spade. It is the supreme law and tells right from wrong. There is no notion of “my country right or wrong” under divine law. The creator’s will predominates. All if subservient to Allah’s will and adherence to a set of basic, fundamental values.
….
Q: So what kind of a system are you advocating?
A: The world needs a post-modern state system. Right now, the nation-state and round the clock satellite TV lead people to imitate America’s way of life. Which is mathematically impossible. You have 4 percent of the world’s population consuming 32 percent of the world’s resources. The creator through Prophet Mohammed said equal distribution. Capitalism is the negation of the creator’s will. It leads to imperialism and unilateralism.
Q: So what does this post-modern state system look like?
A: A global village under divine order, or we will have global bloodshed until good triumphs over evil. Islam encapsulates all the principal religions and what was handed down 1,400 years ago was the normal evolutionary sequel to Judaism and Christianity. The prophet’s last sermon was a universal document of human rights for everyone that surpasses everything that came since, including America’s declaration of independence and the U.N. Charter of universal rights. If you superimpose true secular values on true Islamic values, there is no difference. So surely divine law should supersede man-made law. Islam is egalitarian, tolerant and progressive. It is the wave of the future.
Link

Posted by: Blackie | Aug 24 2004 21:52 utc | 42

@blackie
I lived in an Islamic country for six years and loved an Islamic woman. That post hits the nail on the head.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 24 2004 22:06 utc | 44

teuton…………. I share that opinion that Blackie posted.
Meanwhile, Russian Jets are falling down.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Aug 24 2004 22:27 utc | 46

“If you had 200 billion to spend on promoting democracy in the Middle East how would you spend it?¹”
Does anyone know of a case where democracy was brought about through US govt. programs?
I can more easily think of money that we OUGHT not spend, and things we OUGHT not do, in order to promote democracy.
And whether and why we should be in the business of democracy-promotion certainly deserves vigorous debate. Is it necessary? Is it wise? Is it proper? Is it our moral responsibility? Does it lead to the tendency to be “humanitarians manning the guillotine?”
What we need, I think, is an Ann Landers School of Foreign Policy, guided by the commandment to mind one’s own business.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 25 2004 0:38 utc | 48

And:
Blackie’s link to “UPI Interview with Gen. Hameed Gul ” was an eyeopener for me.

Posted by: Juannie | Aug 25 2004 1:38 utc | 50

Russian jet sent hijack signal

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 3:53 utc | 52

Uncivil wars
The hawks on Iraq turn on each other

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 4:53 utc | 54

@Nemo
So, Francis Fukayama now openly regrets a war that he says he didn’t agree with in the first place – and didn’t publically oppose because “it was inevitable”. Nice.
What sort of a thinker is Francis? I’ve got a heavily-highlighted, very bad book of his: The End Of History And The Last Man. A taste:
“In a situation in which all moralisms and religious fanatacisms are discouraged in the interest of tolerance, in an intellectual climate that weakens the possibility of belief in any one docrine because of an overriding commitment to be open to all the world’s beliefs and ‘value systems,’ it should not be surprising that the strength of community life has declined in America. This decline has occurred not despite liberal principles, but because of them. This suggests that no fundamental strengthening of community life will be possible unless individuals give back certain of their rights to communities, and accept the return of certain historical forms of intolerance.”
A piece of work he is.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 25 2004 6:46 utc | 56

Pat,
They are all ‘pieces of work’!

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 7:35 utc | 58

Insurgents show no sign of letting up

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 7:43 utc | 60

They are all ‘pieces of work’!
Posted by: Nemo | August 25, 2004 03:35 AM
Indeed they are, Nemo.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 25 2004 8:09 utc | 62

Kerry beware….
…the lethal weapon of Bush, the bumbler

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 9:05 utc | 64

The 10 Ways Bush Screwed New York

Posted by: beq | Aug 25 2004 13:00 utc | 66

There’s a lot of truth in Ames’ article, I think. Not only about the liberal wealthy elite, with guys like Soros clearly having a smarter survival strategy than many idiots supporting Bush, but also, of course, with the fact that many people know Bush is bad and revel in it. These are the same despicable excuses for human beings that once cheered Goebbels when he said “When I hear the word culture, I grab my gun”.

Posted by: CluelessJoe | Aug 25 2004 15:30 utc | 68

Raptores orbis…

Gaius Cornelius Tacitus (c56AD – c120AD), in his Agricola recounting the alleged words of the chieftain Calgacus

Brigands of the world, after the earth has failed their all-devastating hands, they probe even the sea; if their enemy be wealthy, they are greedy; if he be poor, they are ambitious; neither the East nor the West has glutted them. . . . They plunder, they slaughter, and they steal: this they falsely name Empire, and where they make a wasteland, they call it peace…

Najaf, August 25th

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 17:48 utc | 70

Paul Craig Roberts at antiwar.com:
I wish Kerry would show the same courage and guts in criticizing the U.S. invasion of Iraq and the attack on our civil liberties as he showed in criticizing the Vietnam War and turning his swift boats into the enemy fire and chasing down the attackers. Nevertheless, the only way Bush can be held accountable for Iraq is to be voted out of office.
However unappealing the alternative candidate, if the electorate fails to hold Bush accountable for invading Iraq on false pretenses and multiplying the recruits to al-Qaeda, American democracy will have failed.
This will be understood everywhere in the world, and American power will fail as well.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 25 2004 18:10 utc | 72

Thirty-eight years ago this very month, a young congressman told his colleagues that something was seriously amiss about huge wartime contracts awarded to a company with a big friend in a high place.
“The potential for waste and profiteering under such a contract is substantial,” he warned. It is “beyond me,” he went on, why the contract “has not been and is not now being adequately audited.”
The war was Vietnam. The company was Brown & Root, a subsidiary of Halliburton that is now known as KBR. The big friend in a high place was Democratic President Lyndon B. Johnson. And the impassioned young congressman was Donald Rumsfeld.

Pricey War for Grunts’ Families

Posted by: b | Aug 25 2004 18:27 utc | 74

After a positive assessment of the campaign against al Qaeda, Jim Lacy at NRO writes:
“Real dangers do remain, however. Even a tottering al Qaeda could probably scrape up the resources to launch one or more spectacular attacks over the next few years. Everything must therefore be done to keep the remnants of al Qaeda on the ropes and prevent them from launching a new strike on U.S. soil. More dangerous, though, is the very real threat that a new al Qaeda will rise from the ashes of the last. This organization would be staffed by men who had learned the lessons of the first and who are possibly receiving substantial state support from countries feeling threatened by our response to 9/11.”
Um, al Qaeda 2.0 is already on the market. And not only would substantial state support be a contravention of its most successful feature, those states feeling most threatened by our response to 9-11 happen to be nominal allies who find themselves between a rock and a hard place.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 25 2004 20:26 utc | 76

Why sure the USA holds most of the cards in Iraq – Aces and Eights
U.S. deck of most-wanted cards falls short
So, after you’ve played cards a while – then what? How about ‘Blind man’s buff’? Remember – “You’ve got to ask yourself one question…Do I feel lucky? Well, do ya punk?”

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 20:48 utc | 78

USS Cole – how these things are done…

Yemen’s former interior minister helped the alleged mastermind of the attack on the USS Cole to pass through security checkpoints in the months leading up to the 2000 bombing, according to a document read out in a Yemeni court Wednesday by a lawyer for five of the accused plotters.

…The letter alleging a government role in facilitating terror activities appeared to shock prosecutors in court, and even security guards exchanged bewildered looks. Officials at the ministries of interior and foreign affairs refused to comment on the document.

Yemen tolerated Muslim extremists for many years, but after the Sept. 11 attacks its government cracked down on militant groups and aligned itself with the U.S.-led war on terror. It has received U.S. military aid, such as anti-terror training for its soldiers.

Al-Harazi is one of the names used by Abd al-Rahim al-Nashiri, the sixth defendant and the alleged mastermind of the suicide attack that killed 17 American sailors on the ship. Al-Nashiri is being tried in absentia. He is in U.S. custody at an undisclosed location.

The court accepted the letter as evidence, while the prosecutor, Saeed al-Aqel, crumpled a copy of it and threw it on the ground in disgust. It was not immediately clear how the defense obtained a copy of the letter….

Document may implicate former Yemen Government Minister in USS Cole plot

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 21:36 utc | 80

Hidden costs of the war….continued….
HOLLYWOOD, Fla. – A man who had just been told his Marine son had been killed in combat in Iraq set fire to a Marine Corps van and suffered severe burns Wednesday, police said.
Three Marines went to a house in Hollywood to tell the parents of Pfc. Alexander Arredondo that the 20-year-old died Tuesday in Najaf, according to police and television reports.
Carlos Arredondo, 44, then walked out of the house with a torch and what appeared to be a container of flammable liquid, reports said.
Police said that despite the Marines’ efforts to stop him, Arredondo set the van and himself on fire. The Marines pulled him out of the burning vehicle and put out the flames, police said.
Arredondo was listed in serious condition at a Miami hospital….
Man burns Marine van after GI son’s death

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 25 2004 22:35 utc | 82

America’s imported ‘Governor’ wanders off-message, police-chief has hotline to Bruce Willis
“…Earlier, Najaf Gov. Adnan al-Zurufi said Iraqi security forces had “taken all needed measures to prevent any crowds from entering the province,” calling it a “military area.”
In Kufa, Iraqi police sealed off the Old City, preventing cars from entering, and Najaf’s police chief, Maj. Gen. Ghalib al-Jazaari, said al-Sadr’s Mahdi Army militia was on its last legs.
“The Mahdi Army is finished,” he said. “Its hours are numbered….”
Top cleric returns, seeks peace in Najaf
I’d hazard a guess that al-Zurufi, the ex-Dearborn social welfare claimant, will have a little trouble getting troops – American, let alone Iraqi – to waste Ayatollah al-Sistani and his tens of thousands of followers when they commence the march on Najaf at 7.00am, Iraq time, on Thursday. That’s the trouble with putting imbeciles in jobs that require a keen political vision and an ability to react quickly to changing circumstances – I mean, just look at George Bush and his merry men (and token woman).

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 26 2004 2:46 utc | 84

Thursday, August 26th, 07.50 Iraq time – Ayatollah al-Sistani and thousands of Shi’ites are on the move and meanwhile…
…Najaf under intense shelling barrage

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 26 2004 3:51 utc | 86

From Defense and the National Interest (d-n-i.net):
Loopy OODA Loops:
The Triumph of Faith & Interests Over Facts & Reason
May 30, 2004
Comment: # 513
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The American strategist Col John Boyd developed the theory of a continuously adaptive decision cycle — Observation / Orientation / Decision / Action Loops — as a means for staying connected to and for overcoming the external threats in a menacing environment. [see Boyd and Military Strategy]
A faith-based decision-making strategy, on the other hand, is driven by a non-adaptive ideology, akin to what Boyd would have called a hard-wired Orientation. In such a strategy, staying on message means that observations are forced through a fixed filter that sees what it wants to see, and consequently decisions and actions are driven more by the internal wiring of the Orientation than by any evolving relationship to the external world. Thus the entire OODA loop turns inside itself, connected to some rigid formality, but disconnected from the environment that loop is supposed to cope with. Remember how faith in a rigid communist ideology disconnected decision-makers in the Soviet Union from events outside themselves.
Boyd’s work is crucially important because he showed that the inevitable result of a decision process that loops inside itself is growing confusion and disorder. Under conditions of menace, such a decision process risks escalation into chaos, panic and overload, leading ultimately to paralysis and collapse.
The government of the United States has not reached Boyd’s endgame, yet. But the [administration’s loopy behavior], viewed through Boyd’s lens, suggests the presence of an incestuously amplifying, self-referential OODA Loop headed precipitously in that direction.

Posted by: Pat | Aug 26 2004 4:37 utc | 88

@NEMO:
In Re Kubler Ross:
On Dying:
Stage1:Kick Ass
Stage2:Kick 5 kiloton Ass
Stage3:Kick 10 KT Ass
Stage4:Kick 10 Megaton Ass
All these psycho-babblers are most Amusing
Afraid of Living and Scared of Dying.
Fading in Life, I hope I got
Col. G.A. Custer, with my last shot.

Posted by: Lakota Warrior | Aug 26 2004 5:35 utc | 90

BAGHDAD, Iraq – A mortar shell hit the main mosque in the Iraqi city of Kufa, just northeast of Najaf, causing dozens of casualties, witnesses said.
The mosque was crowded with men at the time and ambulances raced to the scene to take scores of wounded to a nearby hospital. Dead bodies lay around the mosque compound, witnesses said…
Mortar shell hits mosque in Kufa
Kufa – many casualties

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 26 2004 6:08 utc | 92

Mortar attack kills 25 at Kufa mosque, 60 injured

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 26 2004 6:31 utc | 94

An inspector calls…

“We’re going to fuck the lot of you.”

Police abduct journalists

Posted by: Nemo | Aug 26 2004 7:34 utc | 96

I remember you said, to rememberinggiap, that Americans deserve whatever they get. I’ve got a paycheck that says they don’t.
bloody brilliant Pat. thanks for that.

Posted by: DeAnander | Aug 26 2004 7:38 utc | 98

we should remember that Sadr has always said that if Sistani gave him a formal request to vacate Najaf he would do so without question.
is Sistani back and is he pissed….yet?
i think so.

Posted by: anna missed | Aug 26 2004 8:10 utc | 100