Moon of Alabama Brecht quote
July 9, 2004
Tin Foil Hat Required

The Guardian runs a well researched story on Jonathan Keith “John” Idema getting busted for running a private torture prison in Kabul where among others “three men strapped to the ceiling and hanging by their feet” were found: The man who thinks he’s George Clooney. A story of today’s Kabul

The Guardian presents Idemas quite colorful background and suggests that he was hunting for US rewards on some Al Qaida leaders.

Here are some additional details around that story. Warning: Use your tin foil hat while reading.

Arrested with Idema was Edward Caraballo, a film maker, connected to him through various movie projects. From the bowel of Google we get some introspect on nevergiveupfilms.net (see the Google cached pages), a movie company that was supposed to bring out the The J. Keith Idema Story about smuggling of small atomic devices from the Soviet Union made by producer Gary Scurka and director Edward Caraballo.

Scura and Caraballo are also working for PBN News.tv. They made some “documentary” about a Green Beret Colonel George Marecek who killed his wife, as on other stories Idema investigated. They also distribute the rights of the alleged Al Qaida Training Videos Idema claims to have found in Afghanistan.

PBN News.tv has been in a legal battles with Dreamworks over the copyright of the storyline of the film The Peacemaker. Idema sued Fox News about fees for the Al Qaida training videos: Ex-commando sues Fox News over terror tape . He also had some fight with Geraldo Rivera. As PBN says on their website: “All violations of copyright are prosecuted with vigorous litigation in an ongoing effort to protect the value of the al-Qaida 8mm VideoX Training Tapes.” Conviniently this media company has links to Findlaw and lexisONE on its homepage. The companies motto is “Veritas et Libertas”.

This business outfit and Idema have made quite a round on US media. PBN claims its products have been run by “Inside Edition, Court TV, and/or CBS 48 Hours” and that they have worked with “CBS 60 Minutes, APB News, Inside Edition, MSNBC, and other top name news organizations.” The Green Baret murder story did win a National Press Club award, even though it was turned down by CBS News 60 Minutes and 48 Hours. Idema was active as Waco expert on WorldnetDaily in 1999, but seriously got into the media business only after 9/11.
He ran on

  • MSNBC claiming connections between Iraq and Al Qaida
  • 60 minutes with Dan Rather about the Al Qaida trainig video
  • CNBC Kudlow & Cramer also about the Al Qaida trainig video
  • New York Post ran that story “Exclusive”
  • Radio outlets like WGN, WNYC and KUNM did go with the story and Idema interviews
  • UPI did a story where Idema had found evidence that “Al Qaida may have tried to kill Clinton”

and all of this was of course well reflected in various print and Internet outlets.

When Idema was in Afghanistan in 2001, Scura of PBNnews.tv was also there, supported by the friendly mercenaries of Conterr Group.
Conterr claims they have started in Afghanistan for humanitarian missons, but:

Our non-combatant role changed as the battlefield enivronment changed. Counterr Group personnel became advisors to various factions of the United Front Miltary Forces and began combat operations against Taliban and al-Qaida enemy forces. This is the unique ability Counterr Group brings to the war on terror. Simply put, we will do whatever it takes to defeat terrorism and prevent another 9/11. We will support medical operations, operate on friendly forces in the field, obtain equipment for foreign allies, pay incentives for terrorist intelligence, lead foreign troops against al-Qaida, protect humanitarian aid workers and journalists in combat environments, provide HUMINT to US government activities, and engage terrorists wherever they may be, wherever they may flee, and wherever they may hide.

In case you are interested they do have some employment opportunities and you may reach them in Kabul via Satellite Phone: 873-762-767744. Their website domain is registered by a Thomas R. Bumback.

Some Master Sergant Thomas R. Bumback (Ret.) did write a favorable book review in Soldiers of Fortune about “The Hunt for Bin Laden” by Robin Moore.
As the Amazon reviewer says about the book “This is strictly a heroic portrayal of a military victory and the difficult search for Osama bin Laden, and at times Moore’s writing sounds like copy out of Soldier of Fortune magazine. This bombast may not appeal to all readers,…”
A readers review on Barnes & Nobles says about the book: “Finally, his work is greatly weakened when he includes stories that are not relevant to the story of the Green Berets he’s trying to give justice to. One case in point are the tales of Jack, who is in fact Keith Idema, and not several people as he suggests.”
There are 124 used copies of this books for sale at Amazon right now starting at $2.24.

So why is Ed Caraballo, a professional film maker and Emmy awards winner, in Kabul together with Idema? Is this about hunting US rewards on Al Qaida?

The coverage of the Al Qaida training videos may give some hints. As 60 minutes reports “Recruits shout commands in English – a sign they would like to take scenes like this to the West.”. Strategy Page has some in depth description of the videos: “Role players could be heard begging not to be killed (in ENGLISH). Terrorists practiced commands in ENGLISH also” and “Assassination on a golf course. Target was on the green (at the pin/flag)”. As Idema himself, quoted by 60 minutes, said: “When I looked at these tapes, I said, ‘ My God, this is the same kind of stuff that we did in 1980.'”

Now put your tin foil hat on and combine the video content with the expertise of the Conterr Group Academy Training

“The training at Counterr Group Academy provides its graduates with the most modern tactics and techniques for armed encounters and for the successful prevention and resolution of acts of terrorism.”

– and throw in the film making/media savvy producer / director / videographer group around Idema, all on location in Afghanistan in 2001/2002, and you may come to the conclusion that the story of the Al Qaida training videos has some strange smell.

And now here we are again: Film maker Ed Caraballo, Keith Idema and Counterr Group together in Kabul. This time there is no Al Qaida training video, but some torture scenes in a privat jail. Any idea what this strange smell is about?

Addendum:

Josh Marshall has also some questions about Keith Idema:

I don’t get that.

Is there money in setting up your own jail? Kicks perhaps, as we’ve seen. But certainly there must be enough bad-acts to go around back in the states, right?

It just seems like someone must have been paying this guy to do something, unless it’s like a blog where you just set up shop and figure that someday a revenue stream might turn up.

Comments

I’m off to read now, the thread is ripe with links… thank you, Bernard. But as to the tin foil hat disclaimer, I think we can put that to bed permanently in a world where governments freely hide their black ops and lie as they breathe. I’ve retired the tin foil. The powers that be have reaped that.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 15:34 utc | 1

Haven’t read all the article yet, but just want to say, thank you Bernhard for making this place interesting! Much appreciated!

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 15:38 utc | 2

If only some of the implications here should turn out to be true, we may safely call Wag the Dog an escapist soap opera.

Posted by: teuton | Jul 9 2004 15:44 utc | 3

“An escapist soap opera”… how so, teuton?

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 15:46 utc | 4

Bernhard, I’ll be feeding on this all day long. Thanks for digging it up!
Stories from Afghanistan have been unfailingly strange from the day I first read that George Schultz was encouraging the cultivation of poppies among the Pathans, to such a degree that the heroine traffic in Istanbul and other places was soon exploding exponentially. Schultz, that in-your-face ex-Marine who never accepted responsibility for setting up the barracks bombing in Beirut–the one that killed almost 400 Marines….
Afghanistan isn’t wrong, but it’s sure as hell pretty special. And treating it as a good place to start up a franchise–in poppies, in political pornography–is hardly a prudent move….

Posted by: alabama | Jul 9 2004 15:52 utc | 5

It used to be that snuff movies were made in Brazil. (Don’t ask.) Could some strapping young enterprising fellas have decided to shoot some in Afghanistan – Hollywood on the Tora Bora, as it were?
For years I have entertained the paradigm that our world is not unlike that described by Robert E Howard in his CONAN stories – Aquilonia being America and sorcery being advanced technology which most of use without really understanding how it works (Clarke’s Law being fully operational these days).
News of the kind described above remind me of Shadizar the Wicked, A Witch Shall Be Born and the Turanian Wars.

Posted by: Lupin | Jul 9 2004 16:51 utc | 6

Lupin,
For at least 7 years I’ve been looking for the article that talked about the post-post modern as time of the return of the “barbarian”, complete with Conan-esque landscape and character worship. I’ve never been able to find the article since, but we see the prophesy come true all around us daily. Extreme wrestling other quasi-gladiatorial entertainments … hype of all things military on television, the barbarism of warfare in Afghanistan and Iraq and in particular, Abu Ghraib.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 17:00 utc | 7

Great post Bernhard.
After reading I have one question.
Who is Osama Bin Laden?
OT re today’s news.
“This was a global intelligence failure.”
Do you think Tenet will start singing now?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 17:16 utc | 8

Kate, since I’m sure you know the poem already, I won’t cut and paste it. Cavafy. You know which one I’m talking about.
Odd how we’re being set up as a people at war with the barbarians, no? Well, considering how projection works in those who don’t care much for introspection, not so odd at all.
Gnothi Seauton (“Know Thyself”-inscription over the portal of the temple at Delphi, repeated endlessly afterward)

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 17:18 utc | 9

Ahh Conan, we sure could use him now. A champion to fight against the snake-like Thulsa Doom aka Dick Cheney. You all are on to something here.
Personally I think the best scene was when Arnie was getting it on with a good lookin woman who turned into a witch at just the wrong moment. Arnie’s composure was remarkable.

Posted by: Dan of Steele | Jul 9 2004 17:19 utc | 10

Well, isn’t THAT interesting. on the Google page for nevergiveupfilms.net … the first 4 or 5 links are 404s – “page not found”.

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 17:21 utc | 11

Amend that … all of the Google hits are to 404 pages…

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 17:22 utc | 12

Kate,
Bernhard says in the article to look at the cached pages. 😉

Posted by: Dan of Steele | Jul 9 2004 17:30 utc | 13

x, I haven’t read it a long time, but you mean Waiting for the Barbarians?

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 17:30 utc | 14

Dan of Steele, thou art a heretic most foul for thou worshippeth the sinful betrayal of the Hallowed Canon that starred thine ‘cursed Gropenfuehrer.
In the books, Thulsa Doom was a King Kull villain. When Conan takes over the Kingdom of Aquilonia (in Phoenix on the Sword and Hour of the Dragon), the villain is Xaltotun, an Atlantean sorcerer whose PNAC-like ideology and motivation is indeed striking:
Xaltotun, resurrected in the Age of Conan (ie: thousands of years after his simpler, better times when men were real men, women obedient slaves, and hairy ape creatures knew their place) decides he doesn’t like the new world in which he’s been brought back to life, but not at all.
So Xaltotun embarks on a bloody war, planning to use all the slaughter as a massive blood sacrifice to get the Dark Gods to turn back the clock, erase the modern world and replace it with his older, better version.
I’m sure that if Cheney and his ilk, nostalgists for a well-ordered, white Uber-America (that never was) could somehow channel all the Iraqi slaughter and General Mayhem (a Kellogg & Brown Company) into a Dark Gods-sponsored instant remodelling of the planet, they’d be sacrificing Virgins, or Lesbians, by the truckload.
Yep, welcome to Hyboria 2004.

Posted by: Lupin | Jul 9 2004 17:32 utc | 15

Thanks, Dan. Then I suppose I’m missing the point entirely, or entirely “getting” the point. 😉

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 17:32 utc | 16

Kate…that’s the one.

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 17:35 utc | 17

BBC reporting that the Butler Report will be saying that Blair put pressure on MI6 to “write the right report”.
Happy days.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 17:43 utc | 18

@Cloned poster
After reading I have one question.
Who is Osama Bin Laden?

Do you mean Osama Bin Laden Bin Goldstein?

Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 9 2004 17:49 utc | 19

No, that’s Osama bin Moriarty 🙂

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 17:53 utc | 20

@Bernhard
Orwell must have been one special person.
1984… Reagan wins his second term and the PNAC agenda goes into overdrive.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 18:00 utc | 21

Gad! I’m going to look for a suitable “Momma, when I grow up I want to be a dissolute parasitic barbarian” theme song. My reaction comes from reading the cached articles from the Google link on Idema.
Mercy!

Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 9 2004 18:03 utc | 22

@x
Bit slow because I had a “long” lunch, are you saying Osama is IRA?

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 18:05 utc | 23

The Fayetteville Observer, Keith Idemas local paper now has also some nuggets to the story.

In 1994, he was found guilty in federal court in Raleigh of defrauding about 60 companies of an estimated $270,000 in merchandise. Idema spent four years in prison.

Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 9 2004 18:35 utc | 24

Bernhard, I also found a fairly current lawsuit he’s involved in in Fayetteville.
CUMBERLAND COUNTY SUPERIOR COURT CIVIL TRIAL CALENDAR
SESSION BEGINNING MONDAY, JUNE 28, 2004
COURTROOM NUMBER 3B, THIRD FLOOR
THE HONORABLE KNOX V. JENKINS, JR., PRESIDING JUDGE
TRIALS BEGINNING MONDAY, JUNE 28, 2004 AT 10:00 A.M.
02-CVS-008049 IDEMA,J,KEITH PRO,SE
-VS-
DOE,JANE PRO,SE
DOE,JOHN PRO,SE
EVANS,ROBERT,CRAIG MCGLOTHLIN,LARRY,J
WIGGS,BEVERLY
WIGGS,PATRICK BROADFOOT,JR.,HAL W.
Group: JU
Type:
Issues: OTHR
NEGO
MNYO
OTHR
OTHR
PDAM
SUMJ
AMND
Days Since Filing: 595
5 DAYS; (RS FR 10/6;) (RS FR 3/29)
**
03-CVS-004806 IDEMA,J,KEITH SMYTH,THEODORE,B
-VS-
AMERICAN LOYALTY INS CO CRUMP,DEREK,M
GREEN TREE GROUP THE
NATL GRANGE MUTUAL INS CO
MAIN ST AMERICA FINANCIAL C
MAIN ST AMERICA HOLDINGS IN
MAIN ST AMERICA ASSURANCE C
PEERLESS INS CO BROCK,WALTER,E,JR
WIGGS,MICHAEL,KEITH MORRISON,CAROL A.
WIGGS,MIKE
Group: JU
Type:
Issues: OTHR
CNTR
Days Since Filing: 336
*DOE,JANE
*DOE,JOHN
*IDEMA,J,KEITH PO BX 691
FAYETTEVILLE, NC 28302-0691
**
And the name of his company:
IDEMA COMBAT SYSTEMS INTERNATIONAL INC |
Book:03639 Page:0738 Instrument #:0001236
Desc:
From Cumberland County records, land use. Grantee/grantor
***
Continue on with tin foil hattery.

Posted by: SusanG | Jul 9 2004 18:45 utc | 25

Hiya Cloned:
Bit slow because I had a “long” lunch, are you saying Osama is IRA?
Naaah… you have to be a Sherlock Holmes fan!
Moriarty — the spider at the center of the web of evil that was *everywhere!*

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 18:55 utc | 26

OT, but we wouldn’t be here on this thread if someone else were President….
And so I ask, not rhetorically, but as one who hasn’t kept up with the literature: has anyone told the President to his face that he’s a dreadful, a pathetic, failure, and that there’s no sign that he’ll change, and no sign that he wants to change?
Card could say that; Bartlett could say that; Evans could say that; Rove could say that; the First Lady could say that; C. Rice could say that; Jim Baker could say that; even R. Cheney could say that. I know of no mention that they have. I do recall seeing an article last month to the effect that 41 has said that, but I forget where I read it, or what the reliability of the story was.
In any event, they’d also have to inform the general public that they said that. Then, and then only, would it tend to help things along.
Civil cowardice is appalling. It scares me.

Posted by: alabama | Jul 9 2004 19:13 utc | 27

@x
The dog that didn’t bark.
yip yip Tony Liar

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 19:13 utc | 28

@Cloned P
“Orwell must have been one special person.”
Perhaps there is indeed something to that, C.P. I continue to be convinced more and more that there are certain special beings and circumstances where it is possible to see into the future. Us humans may have been designed to be unaware of that power or unable to use it. Then again through that generations-long period of indoctrination, the power may have been suppressed to the point where it is nearly impossible to recover.
Anyway, I would speculate that many psychic powers are real and available if only one has the means to access them. Orwell may have been ahead of the pack on this.

Posted by: rapt | Jul 9 2004 19:14 utc | 29

@Alabama
Maybe if there was no internet, us bloggers here would be getting the pikes ready.
As for “Joe Schome” well we’re just whipping up them terrists in Eyeraq.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 19:17 utc | 30

Alabama,
The Dub was hired in large part for his very hollowness, and so why would any of those of his gang want to make an issue of it?
They thought they would get along just fine with this puppet in power, and so far they sorta have. The fact that the stream of excrement spewinng from the blower has gotten impenetrably thick doesn’t make outing the boss any more palatable.
…my $.02

Posted by: rapt | Jul 9 2004 19:22 utc | 31

Bernhard (or anyone with proficient German skills) —–
what’s the best translation for “ewige Blumenkraft”?
I’m reading the Illuminatus Trilogy again (a great book, I would highly recommend it) —- and that phrase is pretty important in the book.
The best translation I could come up with (using German to English dictionary) is “eternal flower power,” and I’m sure that’s not correct.
sorry for the OT —- any assistance would be greatly appreciated.

Posted by: dc | Jul 9 2004 19:25 utc | 32

rapt………….
Found this on a google search
1984 has come and gone, but George Orwell’s prophetic nightmarish vision in 1949 of the world we were becoming is timelier than ever. 1984 is still the great modern classic of “Negative Utopia” —a startingly original and haunting novel that creates an imaginary world that is completely convincing, from the first sentence to the last four words. No one can deny this novel’s power, its hold on the imaginations of whole generations, or the power of its admonitions—a power that seems to grow, not lessen, with the passage of time.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 19:32 utc | 33

alabama–
Don’t know if this is relevant to your question, but I know of some folks who’ve more or less told him this around his policies in the Mid-East.
I think it was in July 2002, dozens of very prominent Evangelicals sent a letter to him saying that he was totally misguided in his policies in the MidEast, that it wasn’t consistent with scripture at all to act without justice or compassion in the MidEast vis a vis both Iraq & Israel. It also specifically mentioned the “Rapturistias” (TM ck)and that they were distorting certain biblical passages to push their false and misguided point of view. And that was just one letter. There were many other religious leaders who attempted and requested meetings with him just before the invasion of Iraq to tell him that it was a very bad move and that they were completely against it.

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 19:48 utc | 34

ALERT DO NOT CLICK ON ABOVE POST.
Posted by: Cloned Poster | July 9, 2004 03:46 PM
BERNHARD PLEASE DELETE ASAP-BAD COOKIES
1984.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 19:51 utc | 35

@x re religion. This is Bush today.
Bush he’s learned some lessons from the Sept. 11 attacks. One, he said, is that “we face an enemy that’s hijacked religion. Second, therapy isn’t going to work with them.”
“When you see a gathering threat, you’ve got to deal with it,” Bush told the crowd of about 2,500 in Kutztown. “We will complete our job. Iraq will be free” and “America will be better off.”
Asked about the Senate report, Bush said, “We need to know, I want to know” about intelligence failures. Bush said that the U.S. knew that Hussein could make weapons of mass destruction, and that he had thought that inspectors were going to find such weapons. Intelligence agencies need reform, he said.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 19:59 utc | 36

An off topic repost from the Annex —
Ragnarok, the final battle of Norse Mythology, was influenced by the biblical Armageddon in the book of Revelation. (The Hopi End-of-the-World Prophecy is a carbon copy of Ragnarok, but that’s another story.)
Lif (life) and Lifthrasir (life path) are the archetypal man and woman who survive the battle, by hiding in the branches of the World Tree Yggdrasil

Posted by: ck | Jul 9 2004 20:01 utc | 37

DC, “ewige Blumenkraft”: “eternal flower power” is indeed the literal translation. Of course, there is probably some connotation which I don’t realize. The German rock group “Die Ärzte” have made a song of that title; they are sometimes very good (and untranslatable), but this song is definitely not one of their best. A quick google search leads me to a page claiming that this is the not-so-secret password of the Bavarian illuminati, founded in 1776 in Ingolstadt – never heard of them. Seems they were prohibited in 1785 and went underground. Bizarre.

Posted by: teuton | Jul 9 2004 20:37 utc | 38

@Cloned poster @03:51 PM
Done

Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 9 2004 20:54 utc | 39

teuton —
Would the “ewige blumenkraft” (eternal flower power) and the Bavarian illuminati be associated with the “White Rose” or the White Rose Society?

Posted by: ck | Jul 9 2004 20:56 utc | 40

rapt, their tolerance for excrement confounds me. I guess it’s just a matter of increasing the dose a little bit more each day. That, too, is a scary proposition.
x, the thing that gets me started on this is the fact that our Peerless Leader really and truly listens to no one outside his tiny circle of blood relatives and household servants. Still and all, I find their unbroken silence quite confounding (not that I disagree with rapt’s sensible reading here).
Did the Evangelicals ever try writing any of the folks I mentioned above? Did they meet with any courtesy–if not with any success?
The health of that household is being wrecked by the regime it’s on! Surely an organism starts to emit signals of distress when its very survival is at stake (and I mean the distress brought on by the disease of the regime itself, not by the stimulus of the great world beyong it).
I’m thinking here of Robert MacFarlane. Back in the days of Iran-Contra, he sent out cries for help (but of course he did this in the middle of “the second term”–that I’ll have to admit).
I need to see how this line of inquiry affects my take on Powell. It’s a topic I’ve got to revisit (but not on this particular thread, and not off the top of my head).

Posted by: alabama | Jul 9 2004 21:10 utc | 41

Cloned Poster
I did click on your link posted at 3:46 PM.
Please email me if there is remedial action I should take. Already deleted all cookies after my last sign on.
DC,
Thanks for asking. Been a RAW fan for years & recently reread the entire trilogy.
Teuton,
Thanks for the response. It helps even though it is a little nebulous. Robert Anton Wilson was, probably still is, an avid researcher of all Illuminati leads. The Bavarian illuminati played a major role in his Illuminatus Trilogy. I’ll have to reread it to figure out the context of “ewige Blumenkraft” and I am sure it will mean more to me on my next read. There was also a German rock band in the trilogy so you’ve helped with the puzzle.
Reading Wilson is often very arcane but well worth the effort. I have never been able to say exactly why but while reading his first “Cosmic Trigger” I had a sudden flash/insight/ah-hah that I was no longer an atheist. That was pretty powerful for me.

Posted by: Juannie | Jul 9 2004 21:13 utc | 42

1984
Goodnight to my friends.

Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 9 2004 21:14 utc | 43

alabama–
Excellent questions. Regarding the Evangelicals & the other church leaders. I know the Evangelicals sent that letter — and there were dozens of “heavy hitters” signing onto it. (Can cut and paste it for you to see if you like.)
About the church leaders (big shots of most mainline churches in the US) wanting to meet him before we invaded Iraq — they got a refusal on their request for a meeting.
Excellent question re Powell, MacFarlane, etc. From what little hints I read about the Tenet resignation, it seems people get reamed by Cheney for even suggesting reality could be any different from the picture they want to paint to Bush or the rest of us.

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 21:23 utc | 44

ck, I really don’t know about the white rose society (Gesellschaft der Weißen Rose) in connection with the illuminati, but then I am not into esoterica at all. In my mental dictionary, “Weiße Rose” was the name of the resistance group around Sophie and Hans Scholl, who were executed in Munich for their anti-nazi-pamphlets – in 1943, I think. Sorry, but I cannot come up with more at the moment.

Posted by: teuton | Jul 9 2004 21:30 utc | 45

Yes, x, they’re afraid. Cheney wouldn’t do that, of course, if he weren’t getting the push from Bush himself.
So we have a President who goes through his day terrifying his nearest and dearest, in all the soft and hard ways we humans have at our disposal to do that sort of thing. So we mustn’t look there for relief, and we certainly mustn’t soften our focus on those folks. It’s a collective disease.
They’ve quarantined themselves from the human race, and it’s high time the human race quarantined them from the human race as well (ah Tautology, you lame, indispensable turn of phrase!–what would we do, where would we ever go without you?)

Posted by: alabama | Jul 9 2004 22:44 utc | 46

alabama,
I’m having a hard time deciphering your approach to ~why is GWB never challenged~.
For one thing, he is the heir to the fortune ensured by Poppy when he, perhaps as early as 1963 or before, worked with CIA in a murderous drug-running enterprise, eliminated JFK who intended to not only dump the Fed but also emasculate the CIA.
The simple and well-known fact that George II was/is incompetent was probably more a plus than a minus, as long as the right people were in place to control him. Convenient all the way around.
Now that control threatens to be lost and the sub-bosses are frantically running around putting out fires, Dub may not be the asset he once was perceived to be, but still convenient for the time being. Unfortunatley the only way to get rid of him is with a bullet, and this would be very tricky. And then who is in line to step in as uberfuhrer?
The top dogs are still essentially untouchable, even unidentifiable, but their plan is running into trouble. We can only watch and see how it plays out. And of course assist in any way to defeat it.

Posted by: rapt | Jul 9 2004 22:46 utc | 47

alabama
Cheney wouldn’t do that, of course, if he weren’t getting the push from Bush himself.
I have always had the sense that Cheney is daddy’s man and young george gets his subtle unconscious marching orders from those much older and wiser than the youthful megalomaniac. Not that he wouldn’t use his dictator’s powers when his pathology turned him against the father image.
Yes, I believe we need to disinfect our species from the bush-virus that is infecting us. And from their source of legitimacy; Randian Corporate Hubris.

Posted by: Juannie | Jul 9 2004 23:00 utc | 48

whoa bernard… i’ve had one two 😉 many at this Riviera cocktail party. i’ve seen this kinda riff raff up close and personal myself. similar script – different actors. happens all the time. me and mr. campari are just gonna have a little snooze over here in the corner. pace yourself barnard… and thanks for the ambient lighting.

Posted by: esme | Jul 9 2004 23:13 utc | 49

mr idema is part of their filthy bargain – whether it was authorised or not is beside the point
he is part & parcel of the pornographic process that begins with occupation & we know there are those in the us & british armies who have done significantly worse
they are not fighting terror – they are constructing the fields of terror that we will have to live in – in the future to come – they are the barbarians – no matter how crude & vicious the taliban were & they were – these bastards have taken it to another level
a level unparalled since the destruction of person after person, village after village, town after town by the nazis in eastern europe
for me there is no question that these people must face justice & not the soft justice recently handed out in iraq – some of these people should never see the light of day again
i cannot conceive of how they have made horror so present in our lives – our concience has alrady been troubled by the stupidity that passed for war in the balkans, we have witnessed man at his most brutal in rwanda, zaire, sierra leonne but here we have sociapaths who are running their own sideshow in the middle of the sideshow conceived by the butchers in washington
when will enough be enough – when will people raise their voices, their arms & say no more & fight in every possible way against what we are becoming
& we are becoming something so sordid even the worst of bad novels could not lower itself to what is happening
& this event is so consistent with all that has preceded it & what will follow
i am so full of disgust – my words are being bent in trying to interpret what cannot be interpreted
th abdominable sharon, the sociopaths cheney & rumsfield with their cretinous cabal who would shit their pants if they came into contact with the effect of their words, the imbeciles blair & howard who have bent so low to be fucked deserved to be fucked once a for all to put us out of our misery
i do not possess the skill to articulate my contemp
i topo must breathe
fuck them
still steel

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 9 2004 23:16 utc | 50

rememberinggiap:
One thing I think is important to study in this sequence of affairs is the Israeli response to the suffering of the Palestinians.
Even if they dare simply to protest. Protest, mind you. Raise their voices — this is labeled as an unacceptable insult and they will be punished until they behave. The attitude is that they are not good enough subjects to merit treatment with respect or equality.
I have never understood, really, how this unconscionable behavior can be viewed as worthy, or strong or even something worthy of respect on any level. But yet, it forms a kind of psychology that I think is important to explore and to understand. Is it just that it is essential to maintain victim status, and never be accused of being victimizer? Is it some paranoid effect of history to feel that all who criticize from “outside the camp” are simply enemies?
Perhaps others have thoughts on this.

Posted by: x | Jul 9 2004 23:49 utc | 51

Or is the refusal to even acknowledge wrongdoing some version of “macho” that I don’t understand?
I heard some story on a television show about how one Palestinian protestor was told by Rabin that until the Palestinians stopped protesting they would always be more prisons to build. He tried to tell Rabin — “As a Jew you know what suffering is. So why do you do this to us?” He was told he would not discuss that subject with him, and when the protests stopped then they could talk again, but until that they would build prisons.
Is that a macho thing, or something else?

Posted by: x | Jul 10 2004 0:05 utc | 52

teuton —
I was aware of the Munich White Rose Society (link & link with photo)
as a symbol of resistance.
But I’ve also seen the White Rose used in association with the conspirators that tried to kill Hitler in the 1944 Wolf’s Lair bomb plot — and the Nazi expat groups linked to George H W Bush.
I was wondering if the latter groups might have some connection to the Bavarian illuminati.

Posted by: ck | Jul 10 2004 0:08 utc | 53

A room
a family
of five or six
someone’s reading a book
someone’s looking aat photographs
someone remembers the war
someone’s falling asleep someone leaves
someone’s dying in the silence
someone’s drinking water
someone’s breaking bread
Ahmed writes the letter A
and draws a knight with a blue spur
someone’s getting ready to go to the moon
someone’s brought a rose a bird a fish
it’s snowing
a bell tolls
Mars appears
his sword
fills the room
with fire
tadeusz rozewicz

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 10 2004 0:18 utc | 54

@ck: every group is connected to the Bavarian Illuminati; you just have to keep looking until you find the link 🙂
Did I mention I once played in a band called “The Nine Unknown Men”?
23 skidoo, we’re all seeing the fnords now….

Posted by: catlady | Jul 10 2004 0:39 utc | 55

I don’t know whether to cry –
Or cry.
But one way or the other,
I’m going to read this thread again.
And again.
Thanks everyone.
Fnord.

Posted by: sasando | Jul 10 2004 0:44 utc | 56

great post, Bernhard.
Idema sounds like a real piece of work… and I wonder who he’s working for, or wants to work for, or thinks he works for… or maybe he’s just a totally sick and sadistic freak who’s been exploited because he’s exploitable.
fwiw- The United Methodist Church, considered far more “moderate” than the Southern Baptists, and the church in which Bush claims membership is the one who wrote to him to say that his warmongering did not represent their view of Christianity.
Bavarian Illuminati- what I know from the fiction I’ve read…which means nothing…is that the Illuminati started in response to persecution against scientists, etc. by the (Catholic) church.
they were heretics because they believed Galileo, not church doctrine.
they were driven out of Rome, or maybe somewhere else, and took refuge in Bavaria.
From there, supposedly they infiltrated other groups, like the Masons (who were also considered subversive…supposedly Mozart was a mason, as were many of the founding fathers here…
In Angels and Demons, Dan Brown claims that Wallace got the Illuminati symbols on the dollar bill. Wallace, btw, was bumped from Roosevelt’s ticket as veep because he (Wallace) was too radically liberal..some said socialist…and Truman took Wallace’s place because tptb thought that Wallace couldn’t win a prez election.
Brown is supposedly writing a new book about Illuminati in the U.S. His stuff is fun, but formulaic…a good airplane read to keep you occupied but not working too hard to concentrate. when I read best sellers like that, though, I always feel like I ate doritos and regret it.

Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 10 2004 1:05 utc | 57

Hi fauxreal–
thanks for this:
fwiw- The United Methodist Church, considered far more “moderate” than the Southern Baptists, and the church in which Bush claims membership is the one who wrote to him to say that his warmongering did not represent their view of Christianity.
Actually it was one of many. Just about every mainsline church you can name, with perhaps one notable exception. Also the National Council of Churches. The letter specifically about the “Christian Zionist” approach was notable because it was signed by about 60 very prominent Evangelicals.

Posted by: x | Jul 10 2004 1:19 utc | 58

Dark Gods? Conan?
So what’s new?
How about – The Temple of Doom – Moche circa AD 100 – 700.
It is a pity that this on-line feature from National Geographic does not include the frieze of naked prisoners. The moment I saw the photograph of that frieze, it was instantly recognizable as a scene from – Abu Ghraib.
Civilization is a pretty thin veneer on the human condition. America, alas, is not proving to be a worthy custodian of the tenets of civilization.
On-line article – but see page 109 of the print magazine.
For prisoners of the Moche …. Naked, bleeding, and bound with nooses, they were led into the ceremonial plaza …. the frieze of naked prisoners discovered on Huaca Cao Viejo’s plaza wall … evidence of extreme torture before the grisly executions. Still debated: Were the prisoners locals or foreigners captured in battle?

Posted by: DM | Jul 10 2004 1:48 utc | 59

I find America’s enabling of Israel to be deeply and horribly anti-Semitic.
It tells the world that only Christianity–American, Puritanical Christianity–has the spiritual wherewithal to abide by the teachings of Moses. This is just downright evil. It’s seductive. It’s an American attack, I believe, on whatever theocratic hypotheses underwrite the construction of Israel.
I cannot believe that the founders of Zionism would tolerate Sharon for so much as a nano-second (“Sharon” is only the metonym for an unhealthy development in Israel).
It’s going to take a long, long time to unpack the biblical notion of “the Holy Land”, beginning with the complicated Hebrew syntax of Zechariah 2, 12 (according to a knowledgeable rabbi who’s been walking me through this problem).
Some Jews have figured this out very well, and will continue to figure it out. They are the true heroes of this disaster. Americans will move heaven and earth to prevent them from acting on their findings.
We stuff them with American weapons and sit back, watching them act out our own lethal fantasies in their “war” against the Palestinians (anti-Semitic fantasies, to be sure).
I’m very ashamed.

Posted by: alabama | Jul 10 2004 3:08 utc | 60

Hi All,
Just found the new watering hole, and haven’t had a chance to read all the links in the main post.
This is OT, but goes to the continued instability of the current admin. Since I see that the tin-foil has been put away here’s the link from Capitol Hill Blue:
Cheney Faces Criminal Indictments; Other Illegal Actions Raise Warning Flags at White House

Vice President Dick Cheney faces criminal indictments for illegal activities while CEO of energy giant Halliburton and also illegally intervened to secure a $7 billion no-bid contract for his former employer after his election to office, an analysis by the White House counsel’s office concludes. …..
According to White House sources, President George W. Bush laughed the matter off at a recent cabinet meeting.
“Fuck ‘em all,” Bush said.

The Smirk and The Sneer seem to be a bit out of sorts lately.

Posted by: sukabi | Jul 10 2004 3:33 utc | 61

@ dc
I am a little late, but maybe it is still of interesst for you. The word Kraft can also mean strength. So it could also mean ‘the eternal strenght of flower’.
It is an eternal dilemma I have, which translation to choose when I translate texts. Power that moves the muscles is Kraft, power to control people would be Macht.
Hope this is of any use to you. Whis you all fun on the site, I won’t be around much, as I am going away for the weekend.

Posted by: Fran | Jul 10 2004 4:26 utc | 62

Maybe tin foil hats are needed for this too.

Amanpour Says Saddam TV Was Distorted …

Ok., now I am really gone, have fun all.

Posted by: Fran | Jul 10 2004 4:31 utc | 63

alabama
I’m curious.
Zechariah 2, 12 And Jehovah shall inherit Judah as his portion in the holy land, and shall yet choose Jerusalem.
.. and a whole bunch of other transliterations.
If all this commentary on a bunch of obscure ancient scribblings has relevance in the Age of Enlightenment, and has any bearing on a logical analysis on the root cause of the problems in the Middle East, it is lost on me.
In anything that I have read, I fail to see the noble causes of the founders of Zionism. In their own minds, they obviously had bought into their cultural mythology. But is it not this cultural mythology that ultimately led them to dispossess Arabs in pursuit of their self-righteous claim on this land? After 2000 years. Gee – talk about the “facts on the ground” phrase to justify the continuation of settlements.
I fail to see why this is all America’s fault perpertrated on hapless Zionists.
Perhaps I missed something of the import of your post.

Posted by: DM | Jul 10 2004 4:36 utc | 64

@ dc
I keep thinking about the ‘Blumenkraft’. I think the translation would depend on the meaning of the whole text. Is the flower a symbol for the ‘strength’ of a flower or its seeds to survive in harsh circumstances or is it the ‘power’ to grow or rip through, for example, concret as I have been able to observe.
Ok. now I have to run.

Posted by: Fran | Jul 10 2004 4:40 utc | 65

Thank you, Bernard . . .
Thank you, Jérôme . . .
and Thank YOU — Billmon . . .

Posted by: ck | Jul 10 2004 4:56 utc | 66

alabama —
hm . . .
more talk on the esoteric judaica . . .
later . . .

Posted by: ck | Jul 10 2004 5:01 utc | 67

alabama —
see my post to x —
on the subject of Y-H-W-H —
at the annex . . .
more; later . . .

Posted by: ck | Jul 10 2004 5:03 utc | 68

well, dang it . . .
y-h-w-h wanted a double post . . .
ah’m a’ guessin’ . . .

Posted by: ck | Jul 10 2004 5:06 utc | 69

DM, I just wrote a long, if rather sleepy, elaboration on that hasty post, then somehow deleted it while trying to post it. Something amiss in my management of the Preview function. Very trying!
So I’m going to call it a night, and try again tomorrow. Thanks in advance for your patience!

Posted by: alabama | Jul 10 2004 5:37 utc | 70

I look forward to “seeing” that conversation, DM and alabama

Posted by: x | Jul 10 2004 5:42 utc | 71

With regard to tinfoil hats and who gets to define what is delusional
this link from antiwar.com provides another confirmation that Kate Storm is right.

Posted by: Hannah K. O’Luthon | Jul 10 2004 6:26 utc | 72

Another piece giving personal background on Keith Idema from his hometown paper the Fayetteville Observer came out today – interesting read and some confirmations.

Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 10 2004 9:53 utc | 73

Thanks for the link to C. Hill Blue, Sukabi.
Nice to see that Dickie’s crimes are not totally buried by the media. I still seriously wonder how these (many) perps can continue day after day to blithely ignore the facts and get away with it. A dreamworld.
Justice Dept. and SEC must be having internal conniptions about now, with the bosses on the take from the syndicate while the boys on the case build indictments against their bosses’ bosses. Weird.

Posted by: rapt | Jul 10 2004 14:17 utc | 74

War zones are always crawling with characters like Ideama. They just seem to attract sociopaths.
Occasionally, we get them here on the home front — as in the Patriot (aka “Militia”) movement of the previous decade. Bo Gritz is a good example of this sort of whack-job fruitcake. Michael Ruppert is a current version of the same sort of self-agrandizing sicko.
Warrior dreams : paramilitary culture in post-Vietnam America by James William Gibson has several good examples of the nutcase in the combat zone syndrome in Central America in the 1980’s. Some of these characters later became active in the Patriot movement in the 1990’s.
Gibson’s book draws very heavily on Male Fantasies by Klaus Theweleit, an amazingly detailed Reichian analysis of fascism as psychopathology. Theweleit’s lengthy (two volume) work draws heavily on the Freikorps-based pulp novels of Weimar Germany. Gibson uses the post-Vietnam novels like Mack Bolan’s as similar material.
Interestingly, the same underlying psychopathic profile can be found in all of these instances — and it’s essentially the same fucked-up personality type described by Theodore Adorno in The Authoritarian Personality

Posted by: Warbaby | Jul 10 2004 14:54 utc | 75

O/T…Here in Australia…
Evangelist Christian vote wanted
Earlier this week the Treasurer, Peter Costello, attended a religious gathering of more than 16,000 people, underscoring Government support for an increasingly important part of the electorate – the Hills District of Sydney.
The Treasurer clapped and sang with a stadium full of Pentecostal Christians and when he got up to speak it was to great fanfare.

PETER COSTELLO:…What is it that makes a society strong?(CROWD SHOUT: JESUS!) PETER COSTELLO: It’s the faith and the values of the people that comprise it.
…We need a return to faith and the values which have made our country strong.

Hillsong Convention is put on by Sydney’s Hillsong Church, a high energy Pentecostal church and marketing empire based in the Sydney’s Hills District.
15,000 people attend the huge church every Sunday to hear straightforward messages about Jesus and how he wants you to make money.
Senior pastor Brian Houston even wrote a book called You Need More Money.
REVEREND TIM COSTELLO, WORLD VISION: Some of the quotes in that book I felt were very troubling because the American televangelists who also preach a prosperity gospel, have bred the greatest cynicism that you might have towards authentic Christian faith by turning it into that get-rich formula.
STEPHEN MCDONELL: Reverend Tim Costello has spoken to Brian Houston about his concerns and he says the Hillsong preacher has now stopped publishing You Need More Money.
But he doesn’t have any concerns about his brother, Peter, speaking to the Hillsong Church.
Churches like Hillsong are popping up all over the country, often in places that matter to politicians.

STEPHEN McDONELL: One thing that can be said about cohesive, fundamentalist congregations is that they have discipline, a discipline that can be marshalled to deliver votes.
—————————
Now I am religious person…all tho I am aware of religious lunatics and perfidy preachers but I am astonished at the fact that this is becoming epidemic outside USA and am scared. I kind of believed that it’s USA specialty. 15000 people “hypnotized “every Sunday in one church…And here they are politicians to use them. God help us!

Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 10 2004 16:05 utc | 76

It was me of course…

Posted by: vbo | Jul 10 2004 16:06 utc | 77

And here is a link:
http://www.abc.net.au/lateline/content/2004/s1150747.htm
Sorry and goodnight!

Posted by: vbo | Jul 10 2004 16:07 utc | 78

warbaby
it’s about time we all went back to the good dr reich
whenever i see wolfie or rumsfield i want to go straight to willie & have his wisdom on these sociopaths
still steel

Posted by: remembereringgiap | Jul 11 2004 1:41 utc | 79

Reich’s concept of psychic plague remains useful.
The Surveilance Camera Players do The Mass Psychology of Fascism
And the Wikipedia article on Reich

Posted by: Warbaby | Jul 11 2004 5:57 utc | 80

Warbaby good to see you again. Interesting your opinion of Ruppert. Some of his research/work I’ve found intriguing but the guy himself makes me nervous, so interesting you should situate him in the paramil fantasy culture. One of his biggest allies however is a female social critic (forget her name, too lazy to go look it up) — isn’t that rather atypical of guys caught up in the whole wannabe Rambo thing?

Posted by: DeAnander | Jul 11 2004 6:27 utc | 81

NYT finally has some story about Idema. Portrait of a U.S. Vigilante in Afghanistan
They had someone on the ground in Afghanistan and the reporter seems to have access to Nexis. Access to Google semms not to have been available to him.

Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 11 2004 8:23 utc | 82

vbo
I am not religious. My Sunday is a nice little English country pub outside Sydney that serves up pints of pretty good Irish beer.
But you ought to see how 2,000,000 (yep! 2 x million) people can congregate for religious gathering in Luneta Park in Manila for a good ol’ bible bashing – with attendant political stars.
It is actually quite amusing to see the influence of the good ol’ USA in the Philippines with ‘religious lunatics and perfidy preachers’ having wall-to-wall coverage in a nation that certainly doesn’t need any more missionaries.
I wouldn’t worry. 15,000 people is probably about the limit. This sort of religion is for the desperate, and is unlikely to get much of a hold in Sydney.

Posted by: DM | Jul 11 2004 14:06 utc | 83

Aluminum Foil Helmets NOT SAFE PROTECTION from THEM!
The most alarming point of the research is quoted as,
“The use of aluminum helmets has been a common guerrilla tactic against the government’s invasive tactics [1]. Surprisingly, these helmets can in fact help the government spy on citizens by amplifying certain key frequency ranges reserved for government use. In addition, none of the three helmets we analyzed provided significant attenuation to most frequency bands.”
http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
According to Ali Rahimi of MIT Aluminum helmets may actually help boost the radio signal. Thus, allowing greater access to your brain. This is very alarming as years of apparent government disinformation has spread the lie that Aluminum hats can help block Psychotronic attacks from the establishment.
It is rumored that Ali Rahimi might be working on a class action lawsuit against several disinformation movie production companies. Other unconfirmed reports say Ali’s is looking into a possible recall of the defective information. Mr. Rahimi is reported to be a top study scientist in the field, his recent report on Aluminum Foil Helmets can be found here: “On the Effectiveness of Aluminium Foil Helmets” – http://people.csail.mit.edu/rahimi/helmet/
This research was performed at MIT by a notable scientific panel of Ali Rahimi, Ben Recht, Jason Taylor, Noah Vawter.
The world wide Psychotronics community is in an uproar over the possibility of having to find a new protection schema. One possible replacement has been discovered. The Pyramid or Triangle design of hats is showing promise in blocking signals, early research has shown.
Researchers working in Iran, Syria and Egypt are working closely with the “World Wide Psychotronics Federation”, on designs that were oddly first found in the ancient Egyptian pyramids. The WWPF is keenly aware of recent focused attacks on certain Middle-Eastern countries, yet to be disclosed. However, one clue lies in recent bizarre and obviously insane statements coming from one Middle-Eastern countries leader.
This is no joke people! As reports come in the WWPF will keep you updated on the current attacks on Middle-Eastern leaders, clerics and targets of interest. It is important to help stop the victimization of these poor people, especially to prevent war or further insanity.
An intelligence report from WWPF notes that they are working with scientists in Iran in attempts to reach it’s leaders and get Pyramid hats on them ASAP.

Posted by: Iran under attack? | Feb 12 2006 11:40 utc | 84