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July 30, 2004
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Josh Marshall May 9, 2004
The New Republic Online on July 7, 2004
CNN July 29, 2004 as cited by me yesterday
CNN July 30, 2004 Pakistan captures high-level al Qaeda operative Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 30 2004 6:48 utc | 1 Getting desparate: Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 30 2004 7:24 utc | 2 @x174 Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 30 2004 7:46 utc | 4 @ Cloned Poster Posted by: Bernhard | Jul 30 2004 10:02 utc | 5 Sen. John Edwards vowed last night that if elected, he and Democratic presidential candidate Sen. John Kerry “will win this war” in Iraq. Posted by: Cloned Poster | Jul 30 2004 12:09 utc | 6 CP, I absolutely agree. Posted by: teuton | Jul 30 2004 14:15 utc | 7 Please, teuton and cloned poster, with respect, take another look at the alternative and his crew. Posted by: beq | Jul 30 2004 14:56 utc | 8 And what the alternative and his crew are going to be dealing with if he wins (loses?). What’s looming for the US economy when Putin makes his oily move to the euro. Posted by: Juannie | Jul 30 2004 15:25 utc | 9 beq, Posted by: teuton | Jul 30 2004 15:56 utc | 10 Sure gonna try, teuton. I printed a fresh stack of voter registration forms this morning and I’m going to be doing my own grassroots work in my neighborhood. My red state is in play for the first time in 40 years. My dog and I are going for some walks to talk to everyone we meet. Posted by: beq | Jul 30 2004 17:29 utc | 12 Today I happened upon a translation of the Protocols of Zion and found it to be fascinating reading. I hadn’t known until now that the entire takeover plan that we see being executed around us now had been written many years ago. Posted by: rapt | Jul 30 2004 21:12 utc | 13 Scintillating quote from the Krugman piece: Posted by: koreyel | Jul 30 2004 21:53 utc | 14 You make a good point Koreyel, but I still can’t get it out of my head that Kerry is the fallback man for the PTB. They need him now that Bush has gone down the tubes, and he is there, ready to take over. Posted by: rapt | Jul 30 2004 22:16 utc | 15 Thanks rapt. Posted by: koreyel | Jul 30 2004 23:53 utc | 16 From Empirenotes.org: Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 0:51 utc | 17 rapt- the protocols of the elders of zion is a lie. Posted by: fauxreal | Jul 31 2004 1:15 utc | 18 I don’t think we really have any reason to hope for change…and it’s hard. We only can hope that instead of loony crooks we get just crooks. But was it any different ever? I wouldn’t know… Posted by: vbo | Jul 31 2004 1:17 utc | 19 It’s interesting, Pat: Posted by: Anonymous | Jul 31 2004 1:23 utc | 20 @anonymous Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 2:35 utc | 21 Torture – is it more trouble than it’s worth? Posted by: Nemo | Jul 31 2004 2:46 utc | 22 “Gee honey, it looks like downtown Detroit at night in an area with a lot of crack addicts, high Saturday night special sales and no street lighting is the safest place left in the world to take a holiday.” Posted by: Nemo | Jul 31 2004 3:21 utc | 23 From Business Week (available at antiwar.com): Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 4:26 utc | 24 From The Poverty of Politics, by William Anderson, at lewrockwell.com: Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 5:49 utc | 25 any Floridians out there? You might want to take a clue from the Republican party and get your absentee ballot for the election. Posted by: sukabi | Jul 31 2004 6:15 utc | 26 U.S. Shifts Stance on Nuclear Treaty – White House Resists Inspection Provision
Posted by: b | Jul 31 2004 6:20 utc | 27 Some fascinating stuff about Russia Posted by: Dan of Steele | Jul 31 2004 8:16 utc | 28 Interesting thought:
Paul McCulley of PIMCO in a (lengthy) piece about Congress and Federal Reserve Bank In Democracy We Trust Posted by: b | Jul 31 2004 13:45 utc | 29 I really love the Pandora’s box analogy, Pat. Thanks! 😉 Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 14:48 utc | 30 Iraqi group – 37,000 Iraqi civilians were killed from March to October 2003 Posted by: Nemo | Jul 31 2004 15:24 utc | 32 Nemo, thanks for the link about Iraqi civilian deaths … AKA “collateral damage”. I found this particularly telling: Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 16:20 utc | 33
US troops detain al-Sadr aide Posted by: b | Jul 31 2004 17:11 utc | 34 Kerry – as seen by Europe Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 17:13 utc | 35 American rights watchdog caves in to Ashcroft Posted by: Nemo | Jul 31 2004 17:29 utc | 36 After seeing Control Room, the excellent documentary about al Jazeera’s coverage of OIF, I’m inclined to admire the Arab news channel’s efforts all the more. I’m quite certain that in the not-too-distant future we will have an English-language al Jazeera channel adding its news gathering and commentary to the present, dull mix of CNN, BBC, Fox, etc. We need our television media boat rocked, but good, and al Jazeera might be just the one to do it. Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 17:44 utc | 37 The Ron, son of 40, about George W., son of 41: The Case Against George W. Bush
Now I wonder what he will say about Kerrys plans in Iraq and with Homeland Security. Posted by: b | Jul 31 2004 17:44 utc | 38 “Liqa Makki, a political analyst, said it is widely known in Baghdad that Iraqi officials are prohibited from releasing any information about body count.” Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 18:05 utc | 39 Dan of Steele Posted by: anna mist | Jul 31 2004 19:04 utc | 40 @b – Loved Ron Reagan’s article in Esquire. Here’s one from the Rude Pundit Posted by: sukabi | Jul 31 2004 19:42 utc | 41 Thank you sukabi. I’m an admirer of the Rude Pundit for some time now. Would that I could develop a CroneBlog to say such things as he/she says and more. Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 19:49 utc | 42 Dan of Steel @ July 31, 2004 04:16 AM, Posted by: Juannie | Jul 31 2004 19:52 utc | 43 juannie: “Whatever I am hearing/seeing from the official and even alternative information system, has been generally designed to detract my attention from what is really going on; screened and edited by the principalities and powers in high places.” Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 20:07 utc | 44 From “John Kerry’s Pure Wind,” by Scott Sutton at antiwar.com: Posted by: Pat | Jul 31 2004 20:28 utc | 45 Thanks Pat – that said it all. Posted by: b | Jul 31 2004 20:42 utc | 46 Pat: John Kerry did not question the morality, rationales, justifications, or purported evidence advanced by the Bush administration in support of the war. Rather, his criticisms focused on the administration’s diplomatic efforts and the timing of the invasion. These details do not constitute a substantive departure from the Bush Doctrine. Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 22:20 utc | 47 Lets, for a moment, assume that the political rhetoric of the war on terrorism post 911,is inversely proportional to the true agenda of US mid-east policy. Posted by: anna mist | Jul 31 2004 22:51 utc | 48 @Pat Posted by: Dan of Steele | Jul 31 2004 22:55 utc | 49 Dan … the pandora analogy you say is “not welcome at this time”? Geez … you sound a bit like the the DNC hauling Medea Benjamin of Code Pink off the floor in handcuffs. (I could provide a link, but try commondreams.org or your favorite search engine) How can an archetype of human behavior not be “welcome”? Posted by: Kate_Storm | Jul 31 2004 23:31 utc | 50 just a little note of optimism: thought i’d call my congressional office today (jim mccdermott 7th WA) and get some stuff on depleted uranium, and sure enough i recognized that voice,it was baghdad jim himself manning the phones. it’s 4 oclock on a beautiful saturday afternoon and there is a little bit of hope. Posted by: amma mist | Jul 31 2004 23:51 utc | 51 @Kate: Posted by: Walter | Jul 31 2004 23:57 utc | 52 @Dan of Steel, Posted by: Juannie | Aug 1 2004 1:07 utc | 53 So long as we’re all OT here, you may enjoy the secret history of the word “merkin,” to be found here. Posted by: æ | Aug 1 2004 1:56 utc | 54 @Dan of Steele Posted by: Pat | Aug 1 2004 2:01 utc | 55 @ae: Posted by: Walter | Aug 1 2004 2:32 utc | 56 Actually , I’m awake enough to know it was Pat who posted about Pandora. Sorry Pat. I’m dancing as fast as I can. Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 1 2004 3:06 utc | 57 Ludes. I could use one. Better living through chemistry, and I could use eight hours of uninterrupted sleep. Mercy. Somewhere, mercy. Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 1 2004 3:11 utc | 58 Well, it appears that Pat is Gone. Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 1 2004 3:14 utc | 59 From Andrew Greeley over at the Sun-Times, “9-11 action? Not before Nov.2″ Posted by: Pat | Aug 1 2004 3:23 utc | 61 From Redstate.org: Posted by: Pat | Aug 1 2004 3:43 utc | 62 I really don’t hope for general revolution in the US of A either, but I’m not sure the base of the Demopublicans convention in Boston has much left for us “little people” but politician-speak, and the other unspeakable word … revolution. Posted by: Pat | Aug 1 2004 4:05 utc | 63 Republican Platform Posted by: sukabi | Aug 1 2004 5:03 utc | 64 If the members of the Democratic party are in majority against imperialistic wars, how was the Democrats platform developed? Posted by: Pat | Aug 1 2004 5:04 utc | 65 In Billmons new piece he links to Business Week article The Unbearable Costs of Empire
This is wrong in my view. Who, but the government, says that the borrowed money from SocSec will have to be payed back? Just make a law that halfs the SocSec payouts. Even easier and already in the working: inflate it away – borrow a $100 and with some 10% inflation in a few years the equivilant to pay back will be some $10. This lessens the debt problem and may delay the outcome that the article foresees.
The calculation of the foreign-policy Establishment is that the Empire can be payed for through the control of resource prices (The Iraq war will be payed with Iraqi oil…). This calculation is wrong, but it will take some years before thats obvious to everybody. Posted by: b | Aug 1 2004 8:12 utc | 66 Josh Marshall has new information on the false Niger Iraq uranium link
Now who ordered SISMI to forge and/or distribute the false papers? Posted by: b | Aug 1 2004 9:42 utc | 67 Take with large shovelful of salt Posted by: Nemo | Aug 1 2004 10:56 utc | 68 Pat: Is it just me and my husband and our kids, Kate, who cannot stand to listen to most politicians speak? The way they talk indicates that their audience consists of something other than actual human beings – perhaps other evil aliens like themselves. It’s frankly creepy and deeply embarassing – more so in person than on television, though television is bad enough. One feels the need for a good, long shower and scrubbing-down afterward. Ugh. Posted by: Kate_Storm | Aug 1 2004 11:25 utc | 69 The saga continues – more tales from Abu Ghraib Posted by: Nemo | Aug 1 2004 12:56 utc | 70 Clairvoyance or seeing the blindingly obvious? Posted by: Nemo | Aug 1 2004 13:07 utc | 71 The present course is hopeless. Which means a change of course is in order. Posted by: Dan of Steele | Aug 1 2004 13:17 utc | 72 America has support from Iraqi Sunni cleric so why doesn’t Karl Rove put him on television? What a drag! Posted by: Nemo | Aug 1 2004 13:52 utc | 73 To remember: Posted by: b | Aug 1 2004 15:20 utc | 74 @ b Posted by: Juannie | Aug 1 2004 19:17 utc | 75 I heard it argued that our self-annihilation as a species might be the best thing for the rest of the planet. But then, bears and maples purportedly lack the cognitive capacity to appreciate such a sacrifice, eh? Posted by: æ | Aug 1 2004 19:53 utc | 76 A welcome volte face Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 1:49 utc | 77 How long is a chain of command? Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 4:18 utc | 79 “The upsurge in violence shows we are winning.” Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 5:03 utc | 80 Of course the election’s vital – we’re talking about a success story damn it! Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 5:18 utc | 81 From the Guardian: Sudan the next oil producing state on the list – and no – there is no “humanitarian crisis”. In the bigger picture this is, like Iranq, a colonial race between the anglo countries and China for securing oil reserves. Posted by: b | Aug 2 2004 5:49 utc | 82 New York Times wakes up to American responsibility for Iraq conference chaos Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 6:00 utc | 83 Britain’s spy chief wanted lies inserted in WMD report Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 6:23 utc | 84 ASST. REAGAN DEFENSE SECRETARY CONFIRMS LEGAL ANALYSIS BUSH WAS AWOL; BUSH LIED ABOUT SERVICE Posted by: sukabi | Aug 2 2004 7:25 utc | 85 Bad apple disease infects British Army Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 7:28 utc | 86 The illegal invasion unleashed as a continuation of my terror campaign and coup attempt, the loss of tens of thousands of lives in the last year, my years of plotting in concert with the CIA and the Clinton and Bush administrations, the occupation of Iraq by US troops and the erection of American military bases there and the lies and hunger for wealth and power of various other CIA controlled Iraqi exiles has got absolutely nothing to do with it – Allawi Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 7:50 utc | 88 The cabal that (journalists) dare not speak its name Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 8:06 utc | 89 Why the euphoria? Jam today – fudge tomorrow? Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 8:27 utc | 90 Crowd control Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 10:54 utc | 91 @Nemo: Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 2 2004 11:23 utc | 92 The brutal, lonely death of the first (recorded) Iraqi prisoner to die Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 11:54 utc | 93 Keep on truckin’? You must be joking Mr. Powell Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 12:30 utc | 94 Good editorial by by Robert Fisk Posted by: Anonymous | Aug 2 2004 12:48 utc | 95 Link for ego’s post above Posted by: Nemo | Aug 2 2004 12:54 utc | 96 I told you so. Posted by: koreyel | Aug 2 2004 21:32 utc | 97 Re:LiveStrong Posted by: Harold Lloyd | Aug 2 2004 22:21 utc | 98 More on the decision Kerry vs. Bush from Posted by: teuton | Aug 2 2004 23:19 utc | 99 Thanks, Teuton: Posted by: FLASHHARRY | Aug 2 2004 23:25 utc | 100 |
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