Ukraine Open Thread 2022-133
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Liberal To Republican Primary Voters: "Your Votes Don't Count!"
In the Republican primaries in Wyoming anti-Trump member of the house Liz Cheney lost by a large margin to pro-Trump candidate Harriet Hageman.
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This comes as a disappointment for Democrats who favored the ultra-belligerent Cheney solely for her anti-Trump position.
It also leads to utterly nonsensical headlines:
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Ukraine Open Thread 2022-132
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Open (NOT Ukraine) Thread 2022-131
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A Multipolar Expo Shows Unipolar Wreckage
Currently the 10th Moscow Conference for International Security is taking place. Russia's president Vladimir Putin gave a speech there during which he painted the big picture of international dynamism that is driving the war in Ukraine and elsewhere:
The situation in the world is changing dynamically and the outlines of a multipolar world order are taking shape. An increasing number of countries and peoples are choosing a path of free and sovereign development based on their own distinct identity, traditions and values.These objective processes are being opposed by the Western globalist elites, who provoke chaos, fanning long-standing and new conflicts and pursuing the so-called containment policy, which in fact amounts to the subversion of any alternative, sovereign development options. Thus, they are doing all they can to keep hold onto the hegemony and power that are slipping from their hands; they are attempting to retain countries and peoples in the grip of what is essentially a neocolonial order. Their hegemony means stagnation for the rest of the world and for the entire civilisation; it means obscurantism, cancellation of culture, and neoliberal totalitarianism.
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Various Points On Ukraine And Media
Let me start today's write up out with two reading recommendations.
Lambert Strether and Yves Smith at Naked Capitalism discuss a piece on the Russian operation in Ukraine that had been printed in the Marine Corps Gazette and of which facsimile pictures were published two weeks ago on Twitter and later in full at Reddit and by Southfront.
I had read the Gazette piece when it first appeared some weeks ago and found it excellent. It realistically depicts the early Russian move towards Kiev as a feint. This is also my view. The feint, with too few troops to actually occupy Kiev, had a political and a military purpose.
Politically it put pressure on the Ukrainian government to quickly agree to Russian conditions for a ceasefire. This nearly worked when negotiations between Russia and Ukraine at the end of March in Turkey had promising results. The talks were then sabotaged by Boris Johnson's intervention in Kiev where he, speaking for Joe Biden, demanded a continuation of the war which Zelensky then promptly provided.
Militarily the feint had near prefect results. Some 100,000 Ukrainian troops were fixed around Kiev while Russian troops from Crimea moved nearly unopposed to connect the island via a land bridge to the Donbas and Russia and also grabbed a large foothold in Kherson on the west side of the Dnieper.
The hasty feint had a high price in the form of Russian casualties but helped to established front situations in the east and south that allowed for the mass destruction of Ukrainian forces with a minimum of casualties on the Russian side.
When the feint towards Kiev was no longer useful the Russian forces moved back to their starting positions without much fighting. The Ukrainian claimed that to be a victory but they had hardly anything to do with the well planned and executed retreat.
That the Gazette would print a piece that confirms this view is remarkable. Even more remarkable, as Lambert notes, is the lack of echo it has had in U.S. media:
Cont. reading: Various Points On Ukraine And Media
Ukraine Open Thread 2022-130
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The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2022-129
Last week's posts at Moon of Alabama:
- Aug 8 - Policy By Other Means - By Helmholtz Smith
- Aug 10 - How Ukraine Lost Its Riches
- Aug 12 - Ukraine's Mystic Kherson Offensive Did Not, And Will Not Happen
Related:
With New Weaponry, Ukraine Is Subtly Shifting Its War Strategy - New York Times
> While the approach has been aided by the long-range Western weapons, it has also been encouraged by Western officials. Mr. Reznikov, Ukraine’s defense minister, said this week that the American and British defense ministers had both offered him a piece of advice: “The Russians use meat-grinder tactics — if you plan to fight them with the same tactics, we will not be able to help you.” <
War Propaganda About Ukraine Starting to Wear Thin - Covert Action Magazine
> Contrary to the best efforts of those that have funded, molded and justified this proxy war the truth has a habit of resurfacing. It will be impossible to “manage” the oncoming tide of reality that will gush out of Ukraine as the western powers refocus on their self-inflicted domestic troubles this winter, Zelensky himself may become the fall guy for the failed NATO escapade in Ukraine. <
Monopolistic nationalisms - Yasha Levine
> Ukrainians started to coming to Canada in the 1890s. Almost all of them came from what is now western Ukraine. They came from the historic regions of eastern Galicia (Halychyna) and Bukovina. These regions were part of the Austro-Hungarian Empire. Few of the immigrants called themselves Ukrainian. As you mentioned, Ukrainian nationalism is a modern phenomenon and while the name Ukraine is ancient, it's only in modern times that it came to be used as the name of a nation. <
- Aug 9 - Trump Raid Is Sabotaging The Democrats' Campaign
Related:
- Did the F.B.I. Just Re-Elect Donald Trump? - New York Times
- Aug 13 - Iran Confirms Drone Sale To Russia - But What Will It Buy In Exchange?
Related:
- Russia Launches Iranian Satellite, a Sign of Closer Cooperation - New York Times
- Iran nuclear talks progress, but is it enough to save the deal? - CSM
- No Arab stake in a war on Iran - The Alt World
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Other issues:
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Iran Confirms Drone Sale To Russia - But What Will It Buy In Exchange?
Small birds do not taste well and their small bones makes eating them a fickle. I will have overcome that though as I will now have to eat some crow.
On July 12 Moon of Alabama headlined:
No, Iran Will Not Deliver Armed Drones To Russia
In March this year we were treated to an onslaught of obviously false claims that China would deliver weapons to Russia for the fight in Ukraine.
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Now an equally stupid claim was launched by the very same liar who launched the fake Chinese weapons claim.White House: Iran set to deliver armed drones to Russia - AP - Jul 7, 2022
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Russia has absolutely no need to buy drones from Iran. Besides that it is dubious that Iran would be able to deliver some and certainly not 'several hundreds'.
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The whole issues is just a talking point designed to put Iran and Russia into the same 'baddies' binder for Biden's talks in the Middle East. The countries there may not like Iran but they will certainly not allow for a condemnation of Russia. The whole idea is, as many others Sullivan had, stupid to begin with.So no, there will not be any Iranian drones going to Russia or fly over Ukraine.
I, like the other Iran-watch writers I quoted, was wrong.
Elijah J. Magnier, who has excellent contacts within the 'axis of resistance' led by Iran, reports:
Russia buys 1,000 drones from Iran and expands the level of strategic cooperation
Cont. reading: Iran Confirms Drone Sale To Russia - But What Will It Buy In Exchange?