Ukraine Open Thread 2022-160
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Whodunnit? - Facts Related to The Sabotage Attack On The Nord Stream Pipelines
For decades the U.S. opposed European projects to receive energy from Russia. It wants Europe to buy more expensive U.S. oil and gas.
the Lemniscat @theLemniscat - 15:56 UTC · Sep 27, 2022US plan was always to stop EU buying Russia's gas
2014
Rice:"You want to change the structure of energy dependence. You want to depend more on the North America energy platform ... to have pipelines that don't go through Ukraine & Russia"
https://youtube.com/watch?v=aF0uYIjaTNE
Europe's, and especially Germany's industry, depends on cheap energy from Russia. Without it Europe will be de-industrialized and go broke.
The U.S. had threatened to disable the pipelines connecting Europe to Russia.
ABC News @ABC - 9:59pm · 7 Feb 2022Pres. Biden: "If Russia invades...then there will be no longer a Nord Stream 2. We will bring an end to it."
Reporter: "But how will you do that, exactly, since...the project is in Germany's control?"
Biden: "I promise you, we will be able to do that."
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Currently the U.S. is winning its war on Europe's, mainly Germany's, industries and people. Yesterday's sabotage attack on the Nord Stream I and II pipelines, which are supposed to bring Russian natural gas to Germany, mean that the the war on Germany has entered its hot phase.
A question remains: Whodunnit?
Cont. reading: Whodunnit? - Facts Related to The Sabotage Attack On The Nord Stream Pipelines
The War On Germany Just Entered Its Hot Phase
Just yesterday I laid out how the U.S. is winning its war on Europe's industries and people.
That war, hidden behind the U.S. created Ukraine crisis, is designed to destroy Europe's manufacturing advantage compared to the U.S. It is more likely though to strengthen the economic position of China and other Asian economies.
I have argued that Germany must open the Nord Stream II pipeline which can bring Russian natural gas to Germany without crossing other countries' territory. It must also allow Siemens to repair the defect Nord Stream I compressors. It is in fact inevitable if German's industry is to survive.
Others have come to similar conclusion and decided to sabotage the pipelines to make their re-opening impossible:
Three offshore lines of the Nord Stream gas pipeline system have sustained "unprecedented" damage in one day, Nord Stream AG, the operator of the network, said on Tuesday in what one German official has suggested is a "targeted attack”. Nord Stream 2 suffered a gas leak which was then followed by a drop of pressure on Nord Stream 1.The company also said that it was impossible to estimate when the gas network system's working capability would be restored.
The simultaneous sub sea damage to three pipelines is obviously not an accident.
A German economy official told Tagesspiegel: "We can't imagine a scenario that isn't a targeted attack."They added: "Everything speaks against a coincidence."
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The war mongers at the British Telegraph claim without any evidence or logic that Russia is the culprit:
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Ukraine Open Thread 2022-158
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The U.S. Is Winning Its War On Europe's Industries And People
Disclose.tv @disclosetv - 10:03 UTC · Sep 26, 2022JUST IN - German economy deteriorated significantly in September. IFO business climate index continues to fall.
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On February 7 Professor of Economics Michael Hudson explained why America’s Real Adversaries Are Its European and Other Allies:
What worries American diplomats is that Germany, other NATO nations and countries along the Belt and Road route understand the gains that can be made by opening up peaceful trade and investment. If there is no Russian or Chinese plan to invade or bomb them, what is the need for NATO? And if there is no inherently adversarial relationship, why do foreign countries need to sacrifice their own trade and financial interests by relying exclusively on U.S. exporters and investors?These are the concerns that have prompted French President Macron to call forth the ghost of Charles de Gaulle and urge Europe to turn away from what he calls NATO’s “brain-dead” Cold War and beak with the pro-U.S. trade arrangements that are imposing rising costs on Europe while denying it potential gains from trade with Eurasia. Even Germany is balking at demands that it freeze by this coming March by going without Russian gas.
Instead of a real military threat from Russia and China, the problem for American strategists is the absence of such a threat.
What the U.S. needed was to provoke Russia, and later China, into reacting to U.S. arranged threats in a way that would oblige its 'allies' to follow its sanction policies.
The rather dimwitted European leadership fell for the trick.
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Ukraine Open Thread 2022-157
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The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2022-156
Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:
- Sep 19 - Putin's Press Conference On Ukraine, Terrorism, Fertilizer, Europe's Energy Crisis
- Sep 20 - On The Upcoming Putin Speech And Announcements
- Sep 21 - Russia Announces Partial Mobilization
- Sep 23 - Historic Context Of The Referenda In Ukraine
Related:
- Holding Ground, Losing War - Douglas Macgregor
- Why Ukraine referendum is a big deal - Indian Punchline
- From ‘special military operation’ to open war - Gilbert Doctorow
- How war in Ukraine resembles past conflict in Yugoslavia - Asia Times
- Peace in Ukraine or U.S. Hegemony? America Must Decide - National Interest
- Exclusive: Russia's Sergey Lavrov Warns U.S. It Risks Becoming Combatant in Ukraine War - Newsweek
- Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov’s remarks at a meeting of the UN Security Council on Ukraine - MFA Russia
- Russian Federation - Minister for Foreign Affairs Addresses UN General Debate (English) | #UNGA - (video, 24 min)
- Prospects for guaranteeing the military campaign of 2023: the Ukrainian view - Valery Zaluzhnyi, Mykhailo Zabrodsky
- Sep 20 - 'Slamming' Moon of Alabama
- Sep 24 - Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing 'Officials Said'
Related:
- NY Times claim that Russia drove attacks on Linda Sarsour is nonsense - Electronic Intifada
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Other issues:
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Rekindling Its Iraq WMD Fiasco The New York Times Is Back At Printing 'Officials Said'
At first I wondered why the New York Times homepage editor would put a piece about Putin and his alleged involvement in war strategy under 'U.S. Politics'.
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But after reading
As Russian Losses Mount in Ukraine, Putin Gets More Involved in War Strategy
I understand the qualification.
Some quotes:
Historic Context Of The Referenda In Ukraine
Voting for membership in the Russian Federation has started in four oblast of Ukraine:
Russian proxy officials in four regions — Donetsk and Luhansk in the east, and Kherson and Zaporizka in the south — earlier this week announced plans to hold referendums over four days beginning on Friday. Russia controls nearly all of two of the four regions, Luhansk and Kherson, but only a fraction of the other two, Zaporizka and Donetsk.Ukrainian officials have dismissed the voting as grotesque theater — staging polls in cities laid to waste by Russian forces and abandoned by most residents.
President Volodymyr Zelensky thanked Ukraine’s allies for their steadfast support and said “the farce” of “sham referenda” would do nothing to change his nation’s fight to drive Russia from Ukraine.
The Ukrainian regime has resorted to pure terrorism to prevent the votes from happening:
Ukrainian partisans, sometimes working with special operations forces, have blown up warehouses holding ballots and buildings where Russian proxy officials preparing for the vote held meetings. Ukrainian officials have acknowledged that they are engaged in a campaign to assassinate key Russian administration officials; more than a dozen have been blown up, shot and poisoned, according to Ukrainian and Russian officials.
Such behavior by the Zelenski regime against its still Ukrainian compatriots will only encourage the people in the four oblast to vote for an alignment with Russia.
The propaganda in the 'west' will declare that the vote is irregular and that the results, likely to be pro-Russian, will be fake.
But a view on historic election outcomes since Ukrainian independence in 1991 show clear geographic preferences in east and south Ukraine for pro-Russian policies:
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