Ukraine SitRep: Bad Demographics - End of Support
Via a Responsible Statecraft piece I came onto a EU study that tried to predict the future demographics of Ukraine's population.
The War and the Future of Ukraine’s Population
The study is from early 2022 and is based on Ukrainian casualty numbers from only the very first month of the war. Their worst case scenario was this:
Our third and fourth scenarios assume that the war will continue for a month or longer so that further casualties and refugees are expected. We assume the following casualties: 5,000 deaths among soldiers and 1,500 civilian deaths based on the current trends. There will be 5 million refugees, which is an estimate by UNHCR (UNHCR 2022a)
The real refugee numbers are twice as high and the casualty numbers, wounded and dead, are of course about 100 times higher than the study assumed. It was thus not worth the money that had been spend on it.
Still, some graphs in it are usable.
Yesterday I shortly discussed the op-ed by the former British Minister of Defense Ben Wallace in which he asserts:
The average age of the soldiers at the front is over 40.
He then urges the Ukrainian government to throw more young men into the meat grinder.
My response to Wallace was this:
The young Ukrainians are gone. They either have fled from Ukraine or are wounded, disabled or died. You can not mobilize what is no longer there.
Unfortunately the real situation is worse then I had thought. The EU demographic study included this graph:

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The 'age pyramid' in Ukraine isn't a pyramid. In 2020 there was a huge lack of 15 to 20 years old people. They were simply not there. They never existed. The number of newborns around 2000 must have been horribly low.
The reason for that was likely the serious downturn of Ukraine's economy after it had separated itself from the Soviet Union.
Cont. reading: Ukraine SitRep: Bad Demographics - End of Support
The Average Age Of Ukraine's Army
Ben Wallace, the former Secretary of State for Defence of the UK, writes in the Telegraph:
Putin is desperately grasping at the final two things that can save him – time and the splitting of the international community. Britain can do something about both. We must help Ukraine maintain its momentum – and that will require more munitions, ATACMSs and Storm Shadows. And the best way to keep the international community together is the demonstration of success.Ukraine can also play its part. The average age of the soldiers at the front is over 40. I understand President Zelensky’s desire to preserve the young for the future, but the fact is that Russia is mobilising the whole country by stealth. Putin knows a pause will hand him time to build a new army. So just as Britain did in 1939 and 1941, perhaps it is time to reassess the scale of Ukraine’s mobilisation.
Let us not pause for one day. Let us see this through. The world is watching to see if the West has the resolve to stand up for our values and the rules-based system. What we do now for Ukraine will set the direction for all of our security for years to come.
Think for a moment what the aside insert "The average age of the soldiers at the front is over 40" really means. Can Storm Shadows change that fact?
Roland Popp @RoPoppZurich - 5:43 UTC · Oct 2, 2023Sollte stimmen, was Wallace da über das Durchschnittsalter an der ukrainischen Front sagt, 40 Jahre, dann sind die schlimmsten Mutmaßungen über Verluste weit übertroffen worden.
Paraguay 1870.
Translated from German by Google
If what Wallace says about the average age on the Ukrainian front is true, 40 years, then the worst assumptions about losses have been far exceeded.
Paraguay 1870.
Paraguayan War - Casualties of the war:
Paraguay suffered massive casualties, and the war's disruption and disease also cost civilian lives. Some historians estimate that the nation lost the majority of its population.
Ukraine ain't there yet. But looking at pictures of Ukrainian soldiers at the front Wallace seems to be right. If you are forty or above are you really still able to run, react and fight like when you were twenty? I am not.
The young Ukrainians are gone. They either have fled from Ukraine or are wounded, disabled or died. You can not mobilize what is no longer there.
A huge loss that will forever haunt that country.
End this war now!
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-229
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The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-228
Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:
- September 25 - Ukraine SitRep: Battlefield Reports Show Lack Of Armor And Certain Munitions
- September 26 - Ukrainian Whoppers
- September 27 - Mainstream Media Admit - Ukraine's Propaganda Is Full Of Lies
- September 29 - After Pushing Gains By Ukraine NYT Notes Its Losses
Related:
- The Mad Propaganda Push To Normalize War Profiteering In Ukraine - Caitlin Johnstone
- Prof. John J. Mearsheimer: Who Really Started Ukraine War? (video) - Judge Napolitano
- The Many Lessons of the Ukraine War - Chas Freeman (!)
- September 26 - Hersh Reveals U.S. Motive For Destruction Of Nord Stream Pipelines
Related:
- European Tail, American Dog - American Conservative
- Radek Sikorski: “The destruction of Nord Stream was a very good thing” - New Statesman
- The West's Real Problem Isn't Going to Be Russia, or China, but Germany - Tarik Cyril Amar / Newsweek
- September 28 - China's 'Shared Future'
Related:
- Blinken Says China Threatens US-Led ‘Liberal World Order’ - Anti War
- Anti-China Rhetoric Is Off the Charts in Western Media - The Diplomat
- Deluded Europe can’t see that it’s finished - Gerard Arnaud / Telegraph (!)
- German Dependence On China - Ian Welsh
- Germany shouldn't make 'de-risking' turn into a real risk - Global Times
- Nordstream trauma leads Berlin to draw up fresh Huawei bans - Politico
- German climate envoy given cold shoulder on trip to Beijing after ‘dictator’ remarks - SCMP
- September 30 - 'The Source Of Russian Brutality' As Proven By Fiction
Related:
- Putin is Crazy and Sick: The Lows of American Rusology - Gordon Hahn
- Welcome to the "RuZZkiy Mir" (2022) - Evgenia Kovda / Yasha Levine
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Cont. reading: The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-228
Ukraine Open Thread 2023-227
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'The Source Of Russian Brutality' As Proven By Fiction
The currently "Most Popular" piece at the National Interest website has a somewhat intriguing title:
The Source of Russian Brutality
Russia’s military operates on a Soviet, totalizing view of war that ignores distinctions between soldiers and civilians.
That is of course news to me as well as to the UN Office of the High Commissioner for Human Right which is counting civilian casualties.
From 24 February 2022, which marked the start of the large-scale armed attack by the Russian Federation, to 24 September 2023, OHCHR recorded 27,449 civilian casualties in the country: 9,701 killed and 17,748 injured.
Meanwhile the military casualties in the war exceed several 100,000nds. Compared to any other modern war the ratio of civilian casualties to military casualties is thus extremely low. How is that demonstrating 'Russian brutality'?
So lets see what the author, one Ivan Arreguin-Toft, is alluding to:
One need not be an expert on international law to understand how Russia’s invasion of Ukraine in March of 2022 has violated the laws’ core principles. The Kremlin’s pretexts, the alleged violation of Russia’s “sphere of influence,” cited by, for example, international relations scholar John Mearsheimer, remain inadequate to justify the invasion of an internationally recognized sovereign state.
Russia's reason for the war is the threatened entering of its neighbor country Ukraine into an aggressive NATO. The Secretary General of NATO recently said so. That may(!) be "inadequate" to justify a war. But what about a war over fake WMD claims in a country on the other side of the planet? Has any U.S. reason for waging wars ever been "adequate"?
On top of that, in its prosecution of an illegitimate war, Russia continues to practice war crimes—systematically and deliberately attacking noncombatants, including medical personnel and facilities. We may continue to debate whether allowing Russia to reclaim the USSR’s sphere of influence is acceptable as a tradeoff to prevent a global conflict. Still, there can be no question that Russia’s continual rape, torture, and murder of noncombatants is illegal and damages Russia’s reputation on the world stage.The question, then, is, what explains Russia’s behavior?
Those are strong claims. Strong claims require strong evidence. But the link under "continual rape, torture, and murder" does not go to any evidence. The link instead goes to an overview of the Geneva Convention. In fact - the whole piece does not contain ANY evidence of 'Russian brutality'. ZERO! NONE!
So without presenting any factual evidence, statistic or even anecdote the author simply claims that Russia's behavior is somehow different from others.
He is then off to find something that would explain his farcical claim.
Cont. reading: 'The Source Of Russian Brutality' As Proven By Fiction
After Pushing Gains By Ukraine NYT Notes Its Losses
The New York Times reporting on Ukraine seems inconsistent. It was all about gains and going forward:
- A Brutal Path Forward, Village by Village - New York Times, September 2, 2023
- Ukraine Has Gained Ground But It Has Much Further To Go- New York Times, September 20, 2023
- Another Step for Ukraine: Armored Vehicles Breach Some Russian Defenses - New York Times, September 22, 2023
But a week after the above a different headline appeared:
- Who’s Gaining Ground in Ukraine? This Year, No One. - New York Times, September 29, 2023
That headline is contradicted by the content of the piece.
As Antiwar summarizes:
Russian forces have gained more territory in Ukraine this year than the Ukrainian side despite the Ukrainian counteroffensive that was launched in June, The New York Times reported on Thursday.The report noted that despite nine months of heavy fighting in Ukraine, only about 500 square miles of territory have changed hands this year. Russia has gained 331 square miles while Ukraine has gained 143, a difference of 188, which amounts to Russia’s net gain in territory so far this year.
Contradicting its headline the NYT graphics department admits as much.
Cont. reading: After Pushing Gains By Ukraine NYT Notes Its Losses
Open (Not Ukraine) Thread 226
News & views (not related to the war in Ukraine) ...
China's 'Shared Future'
The U.S. fears that China's growth will lead to a competition between the countries over hegemony on earth.
But China rejects hegemony. No only the one the U.S. is obviously trying to achieve but, more general, also for itself.
Yesterday the Global Times editorial pointed to a new guideline paper issued by China's State Council:
On September 26, China's State Council Information Office released a white paper titled "A Global Community of Shared Future: China's Proposals and Actions." Against the backdrop of the 10th anniversary of President Xi Jinping's proposal of building a global community of shared future, China has introduced the theoretical base, practice and development of a global community of shared future, and points the way toward a better future for the world. Anyone, be they are developing countries seeking to learn from China or individuals from Western countries who are interested in gaining a deeper understanding of China, will find inspiration in it as long as they approach it without biased views.
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Human society is now facing a "life-or-death choice:" whether to enter into a vicious cycle of continuous confrontation and division or to seek a path of cooperation and win-win, ultimately allowing more than 7 billion people to have a better life. The whole world is searching for answers. This also confirms the highly prescient and forward-looking nature of the concept of a global community of shared future.
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Today's world has become a community of shared future, with countries riding together on a ship of shared fate. A small boat cannot withstand the wind and waves, only a giant vessel can withstand the stormy seas. No matter how powerful a country may be, it cannot dominate the world alone and must engage in global cooperation.As the white paper says, "This is an integrated world. Those who turn their back on it will have no place in it." In such a world, the true power that transcends time is contained in the silent and subtle ideas, just like the practical greatness demonstrated by the concept of global community of shared future.
The paper is available here.
It is 22,000 words long but quite readable. It is a recipe for a just and equalitarian world that will peacefully develop for everyone while allowing for a diversity of cultures and ideologies. It is thus building on China's decade old concept of a Community of Common Destiny for Mankind.
The most interesting part is probably this paragraph:
There is no iron law that dictates that a rising power will inevitably seek hegemony. This assumption represents typical hegemonic thinking and is grounded in memories of catastrophic wars between hegemonic powers in the past. China has never accepted that once a country becomes strong enough, it will invariably seek hegemony. China understands the lesson of history – that hegemony preludes decline. We pursue development and revitalization through our own efforts, rather than invasion or expansion. And everything we do is for the purpose of providing a better life for our people, all the while creating more development opportunities for the entire world, not in order to supersede or subjugate others.
Other strategic statements by China, like the one issued in 2013 that laid the ground for its Belt and Road program, had been dismissed when they were issued. But the record shows that China acts on such programs exactly as its papers promise to do. It profits from doing so.
Is its thesis in this new paper, that hegemony preludes decline, valid?
Should we therefore trust its claims that it rejects hegemony, not only of others but also for itself?
Mainstream Media Admit - Ukraine's Propaganda Is Full Of Lies
As a sign of the turning narrative of the war in Ukraine we find a new New York Times piece about 'disinformation' that is not about Russia but about lies from Ukraine.
Andrew E. Kramer, the NYT correspondent in Kiev, opens with an anecdote from the first weeks of the war:
Six weeks after Russia launched its full-scale invasion, Ukraine sank the flagship of Russia’s Black Sea Fleet, dealing a serious blow to the enemy navy, and, a Ukrainian official said, killing the ship’s captain.“We do not mourn,” an adviser to the interior minister at the time, Anton Gerashchenko, said.
The only problem was that the captain — or somebody who resembled him — later appeared in a video of survivors released by the Russian Navy. He had escaped his sinking ship, the Moskva, the video seemed to indicate.
Then comes a paragraph that could fit both countries but the following one it is again related to disinformation from Ukraine:
What is clear is that misdirection, disinformation and propaganda are weapons regularly deployed in Russia’s war in Ukraine to buoy spirits at home, demoralize the enemy or lead opponents into a trap. And it is often hard to know when reports are false or why they may have been disseminated.Now, Ukraine and Russia are offering dueling narratives over whether a more senior Russian naval officer, the commanding admiral of the Black Sea Fleet, is alive or dead.
Well, in this interview Adm. Viktor Sokolov looks quite alive.
Then comes an astonishing admission:
Cont. reading: Mainstream Media Admit - Ukraine's Propaganda Is Full Of Lies