Ukraine Open Thread 2023-22
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Spain Debunks Russiagate like New York Times Letter Bomb Story
Just three days ago I mocked a New York Times story that used 'Russiagate' like claims by 'U.S. officials' to tie a number of letter bomb incidents in Spain to some 'Russian terrorist organization'.
U.S. Officials Claim More 'Russiagate' Like Nonsense
According to what U.S. officials claim some anti-Kremlin fringe group in Russia was used by a Russian intelligence service to somehow send letter bombs from Valladolid, Spain, to some offices in Madrid.
But why would Russian intelligence run such a nonsense campaign? Why would it use a problematic fringe group of Russian crazies to do so. Why in Spain? Why not in Poland, Germany or France? What is the evidence?
None of those questions get answered. Instead rumors and hot air assumptions are put together to make the claims somewhat less outrageous. This is on the same level as the lies about 'weapons of mass destruction in Iraq' the Times printed 20 years ago.
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We know that 'U.S. intelligence' is bullshit and that U.S. official are liars, especially with regards to anything around Ukraine.We know that because 'U.S. officials' said so:
That makes the publishing of the above story by the Times even more egregious.
Three days on the Spanish police arrested the guy most likely responsible for making and sending out those letter bombs:
The man was detained in the northern town of Miranda de Ebro, and police searched his home.The suspect is a retired Spanish citizen with the initials P.G.P. who is tech-savvy and very active on social networks, the ministry said.
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Ukraine Claims Orderly Retreat From City It Lost Days Ago
This is currently at the top of the Yahoo homepage.
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Ukraine forces pull back from Donbas town after onslaught
KYIV, Ukraine (AP) — Ukrainian forces have conducted an organized retreat from a town in the eastern region of the Donbas, an official said Wednesday, in what is a rare but modest battlefield triumph for the Kremlin after a series of setbacks in its invasion that began almost 11 months ago.
Reading the headline I was surprised. Did the Ukrainian command suddenly get sense and ordered the retreat from Bakhmut, which the U.S. has asked for? It would make sense because Bakhmut is where half of the Ukrainian army currently gets ground into bloody dust.
But alas. The second paragraph provides that it is just another fake news story.
The Ukrainian army retreated from the salt-mining town of Soledar to “preserve the lives of the personnel,” Serhii Cherevatyi, a spokesperson for Ukraine’s forces in the east, told The Associated Press.The soldiers pulled back to previously prepared defensive positions, he said.
Moscow has portrayed the battle for Soledar, which lies near the city of Bakhmut, as key to capturing the entire Donbas.
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Russia claimed almost two weeks ago that it had taken Soledar, but Ukraine denied it.
It is easy to test who was or is lying here.
It was on January 13, 12 days and not two weeks ago, that Russia publicly claimed to have taken the center of Soledar.
Cont. reading: Ukraine Claims Orderly Retreat From City It Lost Days Ago
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Ukraine SitRep - No Southern Push Yet, Kiev Government Trouble, Tanks And Escalation
Last week, following two days of heavy fighting along the southern front in Ukraine, I concluded that the expected push from the south into the back of the Ukrainian forces at the Donetzk frontline, was finally happening.
Ukraine - Russian Army Activates Southern Front
I was wrong. I, and other analysts following the war, had been deceived by the sudden rush of news from that frontline. It said that Russian forces made progress in a large number of towns. But nearly as soon as I had published my piece that news died down. In the following days nothing happened but the usual exchange of artillery fire and minor local clashes.
I am not sure what happened. But the Ukrainian army also seemed to have believed that something big was coming as it had rushed an additional mechanized brigade to that line.
While the big one has not happened yet there are several probing attacks in the area with some successes around Vuhledar.
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Dima of the Military Summary channel noted (vid) a Russian report which said that two Ukrainian officers had crossed the southern frontline and surrendered to Russian forces. He speculates that the whole fluff up in the news was created as a diversion to allow for a secure extraction of those officers. We have no evidence for that but it may well have happened that way.
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Ukraine Open Thread 2023-21
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U.S. Officials Claim More 'Russiagate' Like Nonsense
At the end of last year a letter bomb campaign in Spain hit several offices:
In late November and early December 2022, a number of letter bombs were mailed to locations across Spain. Packages were received at high-profile individuals and locations, including the Prime Minister of Spain's Moncloa residence, the Ukrainian and U.S. embassies in Madrid, Torrejon Air Base, and the arms manufacturer Instalaza. One person has been injured in the attacks—a security officer at the Ukrainian embassy in Madrid.
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Spain's High Court was reported to have opened an investigation for a possible case of terrorism.In December 2022, Spanish authorities disclosed they believed the letters were postmarked from the city of Valladolid.
Spain has so far not concluded which person or group might have sent the letters and what the possible motives behind the campaign were.
That does not seem to matter for the some 'U.S. officials' which try to pin the case to Russia. The story is a continuation of their fraudulent 'Russiagate' fairytales.
The stenographers at the New York Times thus headline:
Russian Agents Suspected of Directing Far-Right Group to Mail Bombs in Spain
U.S. officials say the operation may be a signal by Russia that the country and its proxies could carry out more terrorist actions in Europe if nations continue supporting Ukraine.
On might expect some evidence when such wide reaching claims are made. But alas, none is provided.
The quite long story is based on the following sources:
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Ukraine Open Thread 2023-20
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The MoA Week In Review - (Not Ukraine) OT 2023-19
Last week's post on Moon of Alabama:
- Jan 17 - Ukraine SitRep - Media Ignorance, Counter-Artillery War, Three Lost Armies
- Jan 18 - Losing In Ukraine
- Jan 19 - Ukraine - Pressing For Tanks
- Jan 21 - Ukraine - Russian Army Activates Southern Front
Related:
- Russo-Ukrainian War: The World Blood Pump - Big Serge
- U.S. officials advise Ukraine to wait on offensive, official says - Reuters
- U.S. Military Vets in Ukraine Are Fighting Each Other in Court - Intercept
- Ukraine Won’t Get Leopard 2 or M1 Abrams Tanks: Does It Matter? - Daniel Davis / 1945
- The Crisis in Ukraine Is Not About Ukraine. It's About Germany - M. Whitney - Feb 2022
- Nord Stream Who? - American Conservative
- Top U.S. officials don't want to give Ukraine tanks despite German pressure - NBC News
> Officials say both Defense Secretary Austin and Joint Chiefs Chair Gen. Milley are against sending tanks, and there is frustration in the Biden administration with Germany's push. <
Germany's push? Who is pushing whom in this?
Thorsten Benner @thorstenbenner - 7:40 UTC · 22 Jan 2023"US offers used tanks from its own stocks plus long term industrial partnership to every European country that can deliver Leopard 2 to Ukraine", German defence industry circles claim. "Each country that accepts US offer is lost for German defence industry".
- Deutsche Panzerdebatte: Welche Rolle spielen amerikanische Rüstungsinteressen? (in German) - NZZ
- Jan 20 - When Media Provide 'Analyses'
Related:
- Editorial: 'decades' - Referred report headline: 'a decade' - Actual report: 'three to five years'.
A Brutal New Phase of Putin’s Terrible War in Ukraine - New York Times Editorial
> But according to a report by the Carnegie Endowment for International Peace, a think-tank, Russia faces decades of economic stagnation and regression even if the war ends soon. <
The Cost of War: Russian Economy Faces a Decade of Regress - Carnegie Endowment
> The Russian economy’s prewar potential was not overly large, with growth at 2–3 percent per year. The war against Ukraine and external restrictions have lowered it to about 1 percent. For now, the economy’s development will be put into reverse and it will take three to five years for that decline to come to a halt. <
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Ukraine - Russian Army Activates Southern Front
The long expected Russian offensive in Ukraine has begun.
The Ukrainian army, egged on by its U.S. controllers, had put most of its resource into the static defense of the Bakhmut (Artyomovsk) - Soledar sector of the eastern front. An insane number of Ukrainian brigades, though many partially depleted, were concentrated on that 50 kilometer long front. This left other sectors nearly empty of Ukrainian troops.
Source: Military Land Deployment Map - bigger
I count the equivalent of some 27 brigade size formations in that area. The usual size of a brigade is some 3,000 to 4,000 men with hundreds of all kinds of vehicles. If all brigades had their full strength that force would count as 97,500 men. In a recent interview the Ukrainian military commander Zaluzhny said that his army has 200,000 men trained to fight with 500,000 more having other functions or currently being trained. The forces which are currently getting mauled in the Bakhmut area constitute 50% of Ukraine's battle ready forces.
On the southern and northern sectors of the battle-line the Ukrainian forces have been thinned out and are only able to defend against minor forces.
The Ukrainian forces in the north and south are in the same position Russian troops had been in when the Ukrainian army last year launched a blitz attack in the Kharkiv region. The Russian screening force of some 2,000 boarder guards and federal police retreated and used its artillery to destroy the oncoming Ukrainian forces. The attack ran out of power and came to a halt after progressing some 70 kilometers on a rather large front. But Ukraine no longer has, unlike the Russians at that time, the artillery that is need to stop a larger thrust.
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