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September 11, 2018

A Few Items Related To Syria

The U.S. candidate to (again) become Prime Minister of Iraq, Haider al-Abadi, is out of the race. After the recent riots in Basra the party of Moqtada al-Sadr renounced its support for his candidacy. Even before that Abadi lacked the votes in parliament to get elected. On top of that Ajatollah Sistani let it be known that he will not support any candidate who had already tried and failed to solve Iraq's problems. Former Prime Minister Maliki and Abadi both fall into that category.

U.S. envoy Brett McGurk had tried to press the Sunni and Kurdish factions to support Abadi and encouraged the Saudis to bribe Moqtada al-Sadr.  He failed. It now looks like the various Shia parties, plus some Sunni and Kurdish independents, have a solid coalition large enough to reign the country. Most of them want the U.S. military to leave Iraq. Iraq will get a new prime minister and it will not be the person that U.S. would like to see in that role. This will create some serious logistic difficulties for the increasing U.S. deployment in Syria.

The fight against ISIS in Iraq is not over. The political instability allows ISIS to return (vid) in the form of a lose guerrilla army. Iraq still lacks some tools, intelligence and nighttime fighting capabilities, to wear down these groups. With an anti-U.S. government the ISIS problem will certainly increase as the U.S. will gain use ISIS to keep a foot in the door.

Robert Fisk travels along the frontline of Idleb governorate in Syria. He sees remarkably few Syrian forces. He expects that the upcoming attack will smaller than expected and a rather slow moving affair.

Geographer Fabrice Balanche reasonably assumes that the Syrian army will, in a first phase, only attack the Turkish supported "moderate" rebels, painted in light green, in the southern part of the Idleb pocket. The Al-Qaeda/Nusra/HTS brigades, painted in middle dark green, would only be attacked in a later phase. This fits to the observations Robert Fisk made on the ground.


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That the "moderate" rebels are not moderate at all is again proven through a recent scandal in the Netherlands. The Dutch newscaster NOS Nieuwsuur and the daily newspaper Trouw report (in Dutch) that the Dutch government until very recently spent at least €25 million to provide "moderate" rebels in Syria with pick-up trucks, uniforms, satellite phones, cameras, medical kits, tents and rubber mattresses.

The journalists find that the "non-lethal" supplies were of course used to fight the Syrian government. They also reveal that the groups supplied, which the government held secret, were all Jihadis and that the Public Prosecutor of the Netherlands indicted several of their members for terrorism.

Trouw and Nieuwsuur decide to carry out further research into the NLA program. In recent months, both media have been talking to about 100 rebel leaders and those involved in the NLA program, and have succeeded in determining which groups the Netherlands has supported in any case. These are the Sultan Murad Brigade, the Suleyman Shah Brigade, Suqour al Jabl and Division 13 of the Free Idlib Army, Brigade 51 and Jabhat al-Shamiya. Commanders from these groups have spoken to us in recent months and tell us what kind of goods they received from the Netherlands.
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The Public Prosecution Service has actually prosecuted Dutch Syria volunteers for joining brigades of the Free Syrian Army. Take the Dutch Syrian Driss M. On March 21, 2017 he had to appear in court. He is accused of having participated in the Islamist group Jabhat al-Shamiya in 2014 and 2015. According to the Public Prosecution Service, this is a 'salafist/jihadist organization that seeks to establish a caliphate, and is part of the jihadist Ahrar al-Sham. But at the same time, Jabhat al-Shamiya is also part of the Free Syrian Army supported by the Netherlands and described as moderate.

At least one prosecutor seems to believe that the government committed a crime:

The sending of relief supplies to combat groups can also be punishable, because then you contribute to the fight and possibly even terrorist financing. "If you send pick-up trucks, you enable someone to travel, you enable an organization to be able to get from A to B." Van Veghel concludes in a strict tone: "If you in any way role plays in that battle, either active as a combatant, or less active but in such a way that you enable another person to take part in that battle, then you will have criminal responsibility."

Legal trouble is also coming up for the German government.

The U.S. asked the Merkel administration to participate in "retaliatory" regime change strikes on the Syrian government forces when, likely soon, another faked 'chemical' incident will be blamed on it. Several high ranking members of Chancellor Merkel's party want to follow that call. But now the Scientific Services of the German Bundestag, the equivalent of the U.S. Congressional Research Service, released an authoritative legal opinion (pdf, in German) on the issue. Such an attack would be illegal under international law and it would also violate the German constitution. There will be no official German support for such a wider attack on Syria. (In an earlier opinion the Scientific Service found that the continued U.S. presence in Syria is illegal.)

Fitting to the anniversary of a remarkable incident that took place in New York, Maram Susli, aka SyrianGirl, released this video with quotes from Brett McGurk, special presidential envoy for the global coalition to counter ISIS, and from the U.S. ambassador to the UN Nicky Halley.

 

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According to Zerohedge, the Russian Ministry of Defense is claiming that footage of a staged 'chemical attack' is being filmed in Idlib:

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-09-11/russian-defense-ministry-says-filming-mock-chemical-attack-has-begun-idlib

Posted by: phaedris | Sep 11, 2018 2:02:00 PM | 1

thanks b... the whole war on syria is illegal.. the usa is their under the pretext of getting rid of isis, but that is clearly not what they are doing..at least germany is still speaking to the truth of the matter.. i wonder how long they can maintain their poodle status in the face of the usa asking all it's coalition puppets to act accordingly? meanwhile the netherlands has a moment of reflection and realizes the white helmets and what they have been funding are terrorists! i wish it was the same with canada making a similar recognition, but i doubt it will ever be forthcoming with crystia freeland having undue say in the affairs of canada..

meanwhile rt is saying chem false flag is being set up for today in jisr-ash shugur.. we'll see...

Posted by: james | Sep 11, 2018 2:02:56 PM | 2

What is the likelihood of Russian or Syrian intelligence obtaining video evidence of the staging and preparations of the chemical attack? I read also that Russia or Syria gave the UN "proof" that the terrorists were planning a chemical attack, is this being brought up at the UNSC today?

Posted by: George Lane | Sep 11, 2018 2:12:03 PM | 3

I cant believe the FF will happen today of all dates, imagine the hubris! Anyway, lots of Twitter activity to counter/deflect/preempt that CA as it must FAIL. Please participate, if you can..

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 11, 2018 2:15:51 PM | 4

There has been in the last months a lot of Jihadist commanders disposed of in Idlib;
maybe internecine fights, maybe some Russian special forces, maybe some Iran or Syrian Intelligence.

IMO the Turkish position is the main uncertainty in the incoming liberation of Idlib. Meanwhile the Russian and Syrian Air Forces and long range artillery and missiles are softening the terrorists positions.

In case of escalation against Russian military forces, the French will be a prime target, as a warning for the Uk and US.

merci Micron and LeDrian.

Posted by: Charles Michael | Sep 11, 2018 2:30:04 PM | 5

I only wonder how the terrorism lovers and supporters in the West decide which terrorists will operate in Syria, Libya, Iraq, Ukraine etc and which terrorists will operate in Netherlands, Germany, France, UK and US.

Is supporting terrorists who kill domestic citizens still a crime in any of the Western countries or is this over-ruled by some Patriot Act, as worthy sacrifices for the interests of Israel?

Posted by: Kiza | Sep 11, 2018 2:31:01 PM | 6

Good round-up, b. re that video about Iraq, You understand that it's very heavily spun in favour of the Kurds (of KRG), whose real position is far less favourable than presented. The basic position is that there are still handfuls of Da'ish in the villages, not very many, but difficult to get rid of. It was them that nearly got me in 2017. The point that the PBS vid got right, is that many of the Iraqi troops have had to be withdrawn because of the demonstrations in the south (indeed they had been taken from the south for the offensive on Mosul in the first place). That is the real extent of the Da'ish "revival" - the army that was there to keep Da'ish down has had to be withdrawn for the moment. When the political problem is resolved, they will go back. Though I don't know who the new PM will be, not Sadr. You are right that they want the Americans out. They succeeded once in 2008, and they think they can do it again. They're right I think. The US are fewer and more dispersed than before, not in massive fortified camps.

Posted by: Laguerre | Sep 11, 2018 2:46:16 PM | 7

George Lane @3--

The SAA has numerous spies and special ops within Idlib, they've released numerous, bold, videos proving they're in Idlib, showing what defenses exist, and performed other handiwork such as providing targeting intel for RuAF and SAAF airstrikes. The info that filming of the FF attempt has commenced likely comes from such sources. Given their presence, I've previously mused that they might be able to provide a "counter-film" that could be aired to debunk the terrorist's presentation via BigLie Media, or that they might even be capable of preventing the FF attack. Such possibilities surely haven't escaped the minds of FF attack planners, so deterring the FF attack is a real possibility. Furthermore, Russian English language media has for days published the warnings made by Russia's Ministries of Defense and Foreign Relations, which I turn have spread throughout social media.

One of today's main memes on social media is tying in the 911 attack's supposed perpetrators with the Outlaw US Empire's efforts to prevent an attack on them within Idlib, as with Partisan Girl's video.

In UK's Parliament yesterday, a bold Labour MP, Emily Thornberry, demanded any alleged chemical weapon attack must be verified prior to any attack being made and that must be approved by Parliament.

Lots happening at a rather rapid pace.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11, 2018 2:55:06 PM | 8

And if none of the information discussed here and around the globe finds it's way into MSM, it all amounts to squat (AKA BS).

Posted by: ben | Sep 11, 2018 3:00:44 PM | 9

I don't see how the West can stage a chemical attack in Idlib now that Russia has outed the plan. Russia has named the place and has said that Western media are all lined up ready to start filming. If the UK attacked on this pretext and hit Russian troops Russia could respond and British Service troops could be killed. If soldiers came home in body bags the Government would have a lot of explaining to do. The public are not stupid, you only have to look at comments in the media, people are beginning to catch on. The Guardian has not allowed comments on any of its articles on Syria and Russia and we all know why.

Posted by: kitty | Sep 11, 2018 3:02:39 PM | 10

It appears that the Turks may have bussed the 200+ UK and US advisers caught in Idlib out to Turkey.

This Tweet video seems to show the dark-window buses, enough for that number of advisers, to be transported away.

https://twitter.com/AWAKEALERT/status/1038821303220948995

Posted by: Red Ryder | Sep 11, 2018 3:07:14 PM | 11

al-Masdar News reports why things are quiet in Idlib:

"Tuesday was the first day in the last week that the Syrian Arab Army did not attack the Hama-Idlib axis; this is likely to continue as Russia, Iran, and Turkey discuss the fate of the area."

I think the ceasefire's due to it being Assad's birthday and to make deniability 100% since terrorists are creating the FF attack film: If there're no attacks happening, then how did the FF attack occur?! Russian media's being specific as to which BigLie Media are present within Idlib to be handed the terrorist's FF attack vids, CNN being one.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11, 2018 3:32:05 PM | 12

Oops. Looks like somebody messed up and jumped the gun.

Breaking News

Report: Chlorine gas attacks in Idlib
Ynet|Published: 09.10.18 , 10:36

“Syrian president Bashar Assad used chlorine gas in his attacks on the rebels last stronghold in Idlib, reported an American source to the Wall Street Journal.”


It seems that Ynet news became overly excited at the prospect of more death and destruction in Syria and had a premature ejaculation.

Posted by: pantaraxia | Sep 11, 2018 3:42:08 PM | 13

Here's the link for 12.


Breaking News

Report: Chlorine gas attacks in Idlib
https://www.ynetnews.com/articles/0,7340,L-5346705,00.html

Posted by: pantaraxia | Sep 11, 2018 3:47:57 PM | 14

This time it sounds like the Russians are quite serious about striking any launch platforms for assaults on Syria over another false flag chemical weapons "Assad" attack. I've been watching V.V. Putin in action closely (in both English and in Russian) for a couple of decades now. He doesn't threaten often. He occasionally soberly warns.

WWIII could be started as casually as WWI:

On June 28, Franz Ferdinand and his wife, Sophie, were in Sarajevo to inspect the imperial armed forces in Bosnia-Herzegovina...Austria-Hungary declared war on Serbia on July 28. On August 1, after hearing news of Russia's general mobilization, Germany declared war on Russia. The German army then launched its attack on Russia's ally, France, through Belgium, violating Belgian neutrality and bringing Great Britain into the war as well.

The pace of business has accelerated since then. What took a month to blow up into an international conflagration may only take a week or even a few days now. If the US or Israel makes the wrong move now, it was nice travelling with most of you. Our most important task is to wake the masses and reach influencers. The people succeeded in putting an end to the Vietnam War.

Here's a brilliant example of how to demolish misinformation agents while educating those new to a subject.

Posted by: Uncoy | Sep 11, 2018 3:50:53 PM | 15

So Dutch authorities busted a few people for running with the Jihadis, at the same time the government itself was supporting the Jihadis. This reminds me of the recent story about the FBI setting up some guy in Hawaii and arresting him for swearing allegiance to ISIS. Hilarious.

Posted by: gogaijin | Sep 11, 2018 3:59:23 PM | 16

pantaraxia @12&13--

It appears YNET wasn't informed of the ongoing ceasefire happening in the Idlib/Hama region that I reported above. I hope Russia's UNSC delegation's informed of that report so it can be used during the UNSC hearing on Syria that's happening now. With any luck, BigLie Media will have outed itself!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11, 2018 4:00:30 PM | 17

@12/13 p & @16 k

Good catch! "Reporting" a non-existent event AND attributing blame, all in a single sentence... get me Pulitzer on line 1!...

Posted by: xLemming | Sep 11, 2018 4:26:13 PM | 18

A document from the Clinton archive publicly released on WikiLeaks. It presents a business plan and timetable for regime change in Syria, exploiting mass defections from the Syrian government based on Lybia trial run. The document dating from 2014 mentions there were 19,263 deaths in Syria since 2011. It seems the US regime can count deaths arising from its regime change plans when it suits them.

https://wikileaks.org/clinton-emails/emailid/19998#source

The document is also marked 'Google Confidential and Proprietary - Privileged and ???? Product'. One of the benefits of the Clintons running private document systems?


Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 11, 2018 4:29:06 PM | 19

The YNET story appears to be a sloppy misreading of the WSJ story published on Sunday, which claimed "proof" the chemical attack was being readied, not that it had happened.

The rank hypocrisy of the expressed humanitarian concerns on behalf of those who deliberately engulfed Syria in chaos in the first place is frankly numbing. This in concert with accusations directed to Venezuela's government that they are "hoarding" food aid (shortly after the military coup plot was exposed), and HRW demanding sanctions on China over rumours of "re-education camps" (unconfirmed and spiced with allegations of torture)... It's not healthy for a society to push lies on its people day after day. Another indication of a multi-faceted decline.

Posted by: jayc | Sep 11, 2018 4:31:53 PM | 20

jayc @19--

Eventually, all liars get caught up by the web of lies they've spun. Unfortunately, they aren't always properly punished for their transgression(s). The Idlib region ceasefire isn't being done to placate Erdogan despite his ongoing protests about the operation. Indeed, I think his protestations are distractive theater meant to provide a degree of false assurance for the terrorists. Daily over the past several weeks, special ops have blown up something; but today, even those acts are missing. Clearly, the order's been given not to provide any possible cover for the FF attack. Just how long that will continue is unknown. Operations are happening out to the East in the desert, however.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11, 2018 4:49:55 PM | 21

Interestingly, Jisr al-Shugour, the most likely site for the FF (according to Russian MoD) is held by the Turkistan Islamic Party (according to Balanche). I thought the FF scam was an HTAS speciality.

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 11, 2018 4:59:33 PM | 22

karlof1 @20

Although Idlib has been used as a dumping ground for non-Syrian terrorists and Syrians who wont renounce violence when cleared from other de-escalation zones, eg Ghouta, there will probably be Syrians in Idlib who may renounce violence when permitted. The standard de-escalation process may apply to them. I'm sure the Russian MoD has prepared safe exit routes for civilians as used elsewhere (terrorists disguised as women etc not allowed!). The SAA/Russians have already taken care to extricate citizens and pro-SAA forces from enclaves within Idlib, going someway to reducing the possiblity of civilian losses.

Posted by: Yonatan | Sep 11, 2018 5:09:56 PM | 23

invaluable info, Bernard, especially that info about the German scientific services, I haven't seen that noted elsewhere. I did see mention of the Dutch complicity.
many thanks

Posted by: michaelj72 | Sep 11, 2018 5:18:09 PM | 24

Meanwhile Foreign Policy reports on "Inside Israel’s Secret Program to Back Syrian Rebels".
https://foreignpolicy.com/2018/09/06/in-secret-program-israel-armed-and-funded-rebel-groups-in-southern-syria/
The piece is wishy-washy and soft-pedals the damning implications, but is a nice compendium of some of the ways in which Israel has been arming jihadists directly and indirectly.

A few more sources are mentioned at http://www.lepoint.fr/monde/pourquoi-israel-a-arme-des-rebelles-syriens-10-09-2018-2250096_24.php (in French).

Posted by: fxt | Sep 11, 2018 5:29:06 PM | 25

One thing puzzles me about b's analysis. From the standpoint of Russia, the issue is Jisr al-Shughur, where the drone attacks on Hmeymim and Tartus originate and where most of the TIP and broader Russia jihadists are concentrated.
I realize that the SAA attacking from the east and south makes sense insofar as one of their main goals is to free the Aleppo-Hama highway.
Still, why not (also) attack south-west? What does that tell us about the Russian involvement in the coming battle?

Posted by: fxt | Sep 11, 2018 5:45:53 PM | 26

Not that I wish harm to anyone, but Trump may have his hands too full with Florence to bother with military intervention in Syria.

Posted by: Maracatu | Sep 11, 2018 5:53:36 PM | 27

Russia: We have undeniable proof of planned FF attack declared at today's UNSC meting on Syria. The current Outlaw US Empire monster representative better watch what she says for the publicly available truth proving which nation brought war to Syria indicts her paymaster:

"The United States is long past taking Russia and Iran at their word that they are interested in protecting civilians in Idlib from further violence,” adding that “it’s time for Russia to stop wasting our time when it comes to peace in Syria."

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 11, 2018 6:28:08 PM | 28

yer local scam news from the usa daily press briefing.. aside from acknowledging the horrific nature of 9-11 inflicted on the usa, there is of course no mention of the horrors that it inflicted on many many more in the countries outside of the usa, thanks the usa's phony war on terrorism..but of course, how can you have a war on terrorism, when you are the terrorism globally? more fun stuff at the link, if you like being propagandized..

https://www.state.gov/r/pa/prs/dpb/2018/09/285807.htm

from heather nauert - "Next, and this is also related to Syria, I’d like to highlight this: The Assad regime and Russia continue to falsely accuse the White Helmets through a massive disinformation campaign, leaving its volunteers at significant risk. Many of you are familiar with the good work that the White Helmets has – that they have done and that they continue to do. The White Helmets are a humanitarian organization that has saved thousands of lives and continues to save civilian lives after bombardments by Russian and regime military forces. The United States and the international community continue to support their heroic work."

Posted by: james | Sep 11, 2018 7:39:05 PM | 29

Of course the Dutch directly participated in the war in Syria (on the side of the terrorists).

In modern warfare (actually, since WWII), logistics is as important as the numbers and the weapons.

The most amazing thing here is that the same people who like to spread the propaganda WWII was won because of Lend Lease to the USSR are casting philosophical doubt on the nature of Dutch intervention. There's simply no doubt, it's not a matter of opinion: the Dutch are terrorists.

Posted by: vk | Sep 11, 2018 7:40:24 PM | 30

The Fisk report is interesting. Where is the Syrian military.. reports that US moved extra troops to al Tanf base. Perhaps they are expecting an attack from that direction by US proxies and military.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Sep 11, 2018 7:40:42 PM | 31

"September 11, 2018
"Col. Larry Wilkerson says that it was the plan of John Bolton and the neocons to take Iraq, then Syria, and then Iran. These false flag operations are all about maintaining the perpetual war in the region"

FromTRNN:

https://therealnews.com/stories/are-warnings-about-chemical-warfare-in-syria-another-weapon-of-mass-distraction

Posted by: ben | Sep 11, 2018 7:56:29 PM | 32

@30 Peter, therein lies the danger. The SAA can be defeated if attacked swiftly on multiple fronts while busy in Idlib. Many convoys have been seen entering SDFistan from Iraq while swingmaster Turkey keeps re-inforcing Hatay.
If -a big if- there is coordination between these forces it could overwhelm the SAA in a pincer movement..

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 11, 2018 8:10:38 PM | 33

Re: Posted by: Charles Michael | Sep 11, 2018 2:30:04 PM | 5

I agree about France. Anyone know where the Charles De Gaulle is at the moment?

I'd still suggest as something of an asymmetrical retaliation the Russians should name the funders of ISIS/al-Qaeda and strike back at their sources of funding - is Saudi Arabia, Kuwait, UAE, Bahrain - basically the oil & has infrastructure of these 4 countries - the funders of the war in Syria.

Fair payback isn't it? And direct NATO consequences - although it would crash several economies.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 11, 2018 9:33:32 PM | 34

Even if the Anglo Americans stand aside and let Syria regain control over their country the damage is done. The country is shattered. Iran being in country will give them the excuse they need to keep bombing and harassing Syria. If the US sends in the B1's and Tomahawks this time against the offensive it looks like the Russians will hit the launchers. Syria appears to be their line in the sand. Trump could opt for another meaningless missile strike and I am sure these things are agreed upon between the US, the Syrians, and the Russians by the looks of the attack points and the damage as shown by the other side. That would again make him look like a a man of action while doing relatively little to the Russian's position.

The Anglo Americans face big problems in the region across the board. If things get dirty Iran can obliterate their large embassy compound in Baghdad with missile strikes. The US has been in Iraq a long time and the people have no services. There was no Marshall plan for Iraq. The plan was to loot US aid and create misery.

Are we ready for all out war going into the midterm elections? US citizens will obviously believe anything the media puts in front of them and that is a very dangerous asset to have on the side of the war party. I am of the opinion that if a fake chemical attack is produce a fake response will be the reply and Russia, Syria, and Iran will consolidate in Syria. The Russians will continue to ignore any strikes on Iranian positions. I am sure that has been a big topic of interest in the many meetings between Putin and Netanyahu.

NATO will continue to encircle Russia. They got a few more years to go before the nuclear holocaust of WWIII. It is coming sure as the snow in the winter.

Posted by: dltravers | Sep 11, 2018 10:35:16 PM | 35

Thanks for this careful, multi-faceted update, b. It's quite inspirational. To the emerging developments in Iraq, Netherlands and Germany I'm adding the toppling of Oz PM Malcolm Turnbull and his replacement by a gaggle of arch Zionists (and Jews) headed by Scott Morrison. Turnbull was a proud and very wealthy disciple of Small Government, Privatise Everything, Deregulate Everything, Neo-liberal so-called principles.

BUT it was under Turnbull that the Oz Airforce decided to beat a hasty retreat from Syria many moons ago. And ever since his elevation to PM, Sco-Mo (aka Scum-Mo) has been pressed by elements in the MSM to explain WTF Turnbull did to deserve being dumped? Scum-Mo is steadfastly failing to provide an answer to that question. But it's becoming almost obvious that Turnbull had a deficient Warmongering gene which was deemed to be unacceptable to the pro-Israel, pro-USA Lobbie$. i.e. Turnbull was more than happy to allow the top 5% to trick the 95% out of as much $$ as possible semi-legally, but drew the line at sacrificing Oz lives for Israel's Yinon Plan and AmeriKKKa's Fake War on Terror.

If my reading of the Oz PM SNAFU is correct then Scum-Mo's job is to make an Oz return to the ME in a military capacity sound like a good idea.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 11, 2018 11:40:04 PM | 36

"September 12, 2018
'Russian military sources, as cited by Sputnik News, have reported that footage depicting what they have identified as a false-flag chemical weapons attack in Syria’s Idlib province is currently being filmed and is expected to be sent to different international television channels before the end of the day."

Full article:

http://failedevolution.blogspot.com/2018/09/white-helmets-currently-staging-false.html

Posted by: ben | Sep 12, 2018 12:20:44 AM | 37

US regime : How dare you not electing our candidate? This election is full of fraud, not democratic. It's time to liberate this cuntry from dictator. LoL

Posted by: Face The Fact | Sep 12, 2018 1:47:46 AM | 38

After the Douma debacle it was reported from Chinese sources that up to 200 British and American special-ops people had been detained by the Syrians. There must be some in Idlib as they were bussed there from Douma and someone is setting up the false flags. If it does take place, there should be no escape for these people, no 'golden pheasants' as Lavrov had it. They should be brought to trial in the glare of world publicity. This may explain recent seemingly out-of-context comments by vituperative shrew Nikki Haley and the US government regarding the ICC, and also the UK's re-warming of the Skripal imbroglio. There is a lot of backstairs posturing and manoeveuring going on at the moment and UK special ops people and chemical specialists in Syrian custody is a non-reported story in the UK. Imagine the bombshell effect if these people and evidence of false-flag malfeasance are suddenly revealed by respectable foreign news sources....it may just knock Brexit out of the news cycle here.........just a thought that occurred to me at 4 a.m....

Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein | Sep 12, 2018 1:47:57 AM | 39

Like the maps used by Fabrice Balanche, and your work b.

Posted by: Paul | Sep 12, 2018 1:56:48 AM | 40

29 "There's simply no doubt, it's not a matter of opinion: the Dutch are terrorists."

This is not what I like to read about my country, but I have said the same thing for years. During 2014-2016 the Netherlands have attacked Syria 1800 times and there is no disclosure at all. We are not at war with Syria officially so this is a war crime. The Dutch state television phrased "the fall of Aleppo" when the town was in fact liberated (from 'our' boys & co). Just like we stirred up the MH-17 case, wanted to join in the destruction of Libya and always pledge to be active in the highest spirals of warfare (I guess that means dropping nukes on Russia). A lot has changed since 1914-1918 when we proved that a country can remain neutral while large surrounding countries are at war.

Posted by: Antares | Sep 12, 2018 2:26:15 AM | 41

Anglo-American False Flag chemical weapons attack on its way-

https://syrianperspective.com/2018/09/the-fake-cw-event-is-coming-its-being-filmed-already-syrian-army-devastates-terrorists-in-hama.html

Posted by: TJ | Sep 12, 2018 3:41:01 AM | 42

Re: Posted by: Emmanuel Goldstein | Sep 12, 2018 1:47:57 AM | 38

There apparently WERE Special Ops in Idlib from UK/US but Turkey has now apparently evacuated them out.

https://mobile.twitter.com/peterpyke/status/1039288327575416834

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 3:45:11 AM | 43

Hoarsewhisperer @ 35:

You may be right about Malcolm Turnbull being found insufficiently warlike and belligerent by the US and his own party.

Mike Head, "Sixth Australian Prime Minister ousted in 11 Years"
https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2018/08/24/turn-a24.html

" ... Since taking office in 2015, Turnbull has done everything possible to assure, first the Obama White House and then Trump’s, of his unalloyed fidelity to the US military and security alliance, on which the Australian ruling elite has relied since World War II. He had to do so because in 2011, while in opposition, he accused former Prime Minister Julia Gillard’s Labor government of going too far in signing up to Obama’s military and strategic “pivot” to Asia to confront China, which included agreeing to host US Marines in Darwin ...

... Earlier [in August], however, Turnbull gave a speech that would not have pleased the US ruling elite. He vowed his determination to maintain a “very deep” and growing relationship with China, the source of lucrative profits for mining companies, agribusinesses and universities. The move against Turnbull was certainly not opposed in Washington, if not tacitly endorsed.

Indicating how much is at stake, Turnbull threatened his colleagues that he would immediately resign his parliamentary seat if he was removed by Dutton, ending the government’s one-seat majority and possibly forcing an early election. He has not yet indicated if he will follow through on that threat given that Morrison won the leadership ballot ..."

Also the Turnbull government was dragging its feet over declaring the MH17 shoot-down in 2014 a "terrorist" act.
http://johnhelmer.net/australian-prime-minister-drags-foot-trips-up-ukrainian-court-claim-of-mh17-terrorism/

Posted by: Jen | Sep 12, 2018 4:16:21 AM | 44

Hoarse whisperer Jen

As the Mad Monk stated, we are part of the anglosphere. I guess we shall remain an outpost of empire in white pith helmets unless there is a total collapse of the US as a world power. Five eyes vs all others.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Sep 12, 2018 4:52:09 AM | 45

fxt@25

One probable reason that the main SAA attacks/advances will come from the east is because of the terrain. The region closest to Latakia and the Med is dense forest with ranges of hills. Earlier fighting by the SAA had to advance across a series of easily defended steep hilltops. The later SAA advances came from the South, and went along the top of the ranges, one by one. Slow and hard work.

An eastern push would cross the lowland Ghab plains. Much easier for tanks and other military hardware (Anti-tank missiles excluded). This would allow them to advance by taking advantage of the lie of the land rather than being blocked by it.

Posted by: stonebird | Sep 12, 2018 5:37:31 AM | 46


Be sure to watch the video(s).

How To Explain The Cause Of The Syrian War In 2 Minutes

Posted by: librul | Sep 12, 2018 8:33:06 AM | 47

Bashar al Assad and the Russians are watching what is happening in the USA before starting an attack that will surely make all the MSM headlines. The strategy well described by Balanche is to make small steps, wait until the hysteria dies down or is overan by more Trump scandals and White House crisis, UK-Russia's row about the Skripals, Brexit uncertainty, the forgotten Libya war, more economic crisis in Turklkey etc..
In addition Erdogan must have time to prepare the Turks for the inevitable U-turn on the FSA and on Bashar al Assad. Erdogan is hoping to repair his relation with Europe and the USA. I doubt he will succeed. The weaker he becomes, the better it is for Syria. Russia and Iran

Therefore it may take a few months before we see the return of Edlib to the central governement

Posted by: virgile | Sep 12, 2018 8:57:55 AM | 48

Posted by: Jen | Sep 12, 2018 4:16:21 AM | 43
Helmer's view of the Oz PM SNAFU)

Thanks for the endorsement.
Helmer is much more of a finger-on-the-pulse commentator than Hw. I just take pot-shots at ppl too stupid to keep their mouths shut when they've got nothing to say and out themselves as believers in too much of other people's bs. This is the beginning of the end of the treasonous Liberal Party and the quicker the better, imo.
I'll never forget John Dubya Howard airily dismissing his 'forgotten' pre-election promises with the declaration: "Oh, those were non-core promises."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Sep 12, 2018 9:15:29 AM | 49

Putin Punked?

It seems that Bolton-Bibi-Erdogan have won a propaganda victory as Russian false flag warning turns out to be false.

Filming of staged chemical attack in Idlib, Syria begins – Russian MoD

Footage meant to serve as proof that the Syrian government has conducted a chemical weapon attack in Idlib, Syria will be provided to global news outlets by the end of Tuesday, the Russian military claims.

Well, there was no such news by the end of Tuesday.

A carefully orchestrated series of events, which included Erdogan's WSJ Op-Ed calling for the West to save Idlib from SAA attack created a "drum beat of war" feeling that led to the Russian warning. Now Russia has lost credibility in blaming the 'Assad must go!' Coalition for sponsoring/promoting a FF.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 10:01:03 AM | 50

I see that TJ @42 already linked to the excellent SyrPers article so I don't have to. What I will do is provide what I think is the most sensational aspect of that article which provides the "undeniable proof" mentioned @28 above:

"An Anglo-American crew arrived last Saturday to Idlib City by easily traversing the Turk border. They were spotted by agents of the Syrian government inside Idlib who reported the event to various security agencies. In their turn, Syria’s Military Intelligence Directorate informed the Russian military at Humaymeem who studied the evidence and came to the conclusion that in a few days the provocative event will take place.

"The Anglo-American team is made up, according to my sources, of 12 Americans, all of whom used to work for major “news” outlets like NBC and CBS. Among the American group are 4 Jews who hold dual citizenship; American and Zionist. The 6 Britons in the group are primarily MI6 contractors whose job is to provide security for the crew. (Wael says that the British group contains one expert in unconventional warfare). On Sunday, September 9, 2018, the crew met with representatives from Jabhat Al-Nusra, the so-called White Helmets and the Turkestan Party where they discussed the details. What the imbeciles did not know was that the room in which they were discussing the scenario was bugged. In that conversation, the MI agents learned that the staged CW event would take place in Jisr Al-Shughoor." [My Emphasis]

As I've been saying for awhile, SAA has lots of HumInt assets within Idlib. So, if the intel's that good, then why don't they just bomb them to pieces is the question I see most often asked. Is the capture of those people hoped/planned for? And what of the complicity of the Turks in this operation? Is the whole affair an elaborate Bear Trap?

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 12:39:53 PM | 51

The Russian MoD continues to state that Nusra Front terrorists are preparing to use chemical weapons. Sputnik reports "the terrorists are preparing to actually use chlorine-based poison substances against the participants of the shooting, in order to then blame the Syrian army for the chemical attack.
According to the Russian Center for Syrian Reconciliation, the terrorists have selected 22 children with parents from Aleppo to participate in the staged attack.
"According to the irrefutable information of the Russian Center for Syrian Reconciliation, nine scenes of the alleged use of 'chemical weapons' by the Syrian troops against the civilians were filmed on September 9 in the settlement of Jisr al-Shughur in the province of Idlib by the crews of a number of Middle Eastern channels and the regional affiliate of a US television news channel," the center said.
The White Helmets and Nusra Front terrorists have approved videos of two scenes, which will be transferred to the United Nations and the OPCW; the rest will be distributed in the social networks, the center revealed
."

It appears that the footage will soon be released . . . shortly before the US/French/UK attack is unleashed?

Posted by: Perimetr | Sep 12, 2018 12:50:56 PM | 52

@36 hoarsewhisperer.. that is what i had heard... turnball wasn't warlike enough, so they had to get rid of him.. ditto @44 jens comment on the mh17 comment..

@41 antares.. thanks for articulating all that.. i was thinking of mh17 and the netherlands role in that too..

the usa is preparing to bomb syria under the pretense of a false flag.. they have gotten the tacit agreement from germany, uk, france and who knows how many other countries here in the past week.. the fact that these news releases are happening close to one another, but by supposed 'independent' states tells me they are a bunch of obedient sycophants listening to some voice other then democracy, or their own citizens... and, it's a warmongering voice that they just can't say no to...

@50 jackrabbit.. i don't agree.. they just don't have the timing right!

@51 karlof1... last paragraph.. good questions.. hard to know what russia/syria are thinking on that one....

Posted by: james | Sep 12, 2018 1:00:36 PM | 53

Re TJ link @42

How the hell does Erdogan get away with this?

"Also, on Saturday, two (2) barrels of chlorine gas were delivered to Idlib City from Khirbat Al-Jawz, right on the Turk border while, as I am told, the Turk customs officers and military personnel merely looked on with orders not to interfere. The CW was collected and delivered by Qatari agents with the help of the Turks."

Posted by: spudski | Sep 12, 2018 1:26:07 PM | 54

james

They lost credibility because they didn't really know or they fell for a trap.

My vote: trap. Essentially, Putin was punked.

Sunday WSJ: Anonymous US official says Assad has given the order!

Monday Erdogan's WSJ Op-Ed: Save Idlib!

Tuesday: Some kind of movement "on the ground" that appeared to be CW-related.

USA has said that Russia claims of a FF are being used to cover for Assad's plans. This punking helps them to validate that claim.

Bonus: LULZ

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 1:37:04 PM | 55

jackrabbit... there is still time! my astro clock was looking at tonight or tomorrow sometime as the best time to try to pull this ff off.. i don't know that i see it the same way as you... wsj is probably good fire-starter, and not much else..

Posted by: james | Sep 12, 2018 1:54:30 PM | 56

Jackrabbit @55

This is just stupid.

There is no secret about Assad wanting to take back Idlib with Russian help.

The only issue is, will the US do anything about it? If the US just wanted to "punk" Putin/Russia, well I am sure Putin will accept being "punked" and proceed with the plan.

Bolton, Pompeo, Trump and "mad dog" Mattis are probably in stitches about their prank and having a grand old time in the White House jacuzzi. Meanwhile....

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 2:04:21 PM | 57

"We Are Everywhere" is the title of the linked article introducing yet another video from an SAA spy within Idlib out for a drive around town. I don't think those running the Outlaw US Empire's show in Syria realize just how compromised they are!

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 2:28:23 PM | 58

ADKC

It's not stupid.

Now that they've nixed Russia's finger pointing, they can proceed to blame any CW attack on Assad.

Oh, YOU won't be convinced, but millions of Westerner's will be because what seems like a silly, inconsequential act to YOU will be used to demonstrate that Russia's FF claims have no credibility.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 2:28:32 PM | 59

@51 Txs karlof1, a major development. I wonder if Leith is refering to Wael "Al Russi who incidently disappeared from Twitter..

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 12, 2018 2:44:59 PM | 60

@50 Jackrabbit - "...Russia has lost credibility"

Russia hasn't lost any credibility with me, nor with any serious analysts or military around the world I'm sure. The MOD has been calling this false flag for weeks, even while it's been a moving target. We've seen on many occasions that calling out a plan in advance changes its timing or its composition or execution, and certainly its effect.

Syrian intelligence in Syria has long been totally formidable, and with Iran and Russia mixed in, the west doesn't even compare - especially since western culture at the military and even spook level tends to show a vast disconnect from local cultural understanding.

What the MOD asserted at your link is that the footage of the false flag would be delivered to media outlets by the west as evidence of the chem attack - not by the MOD as refutation of that attack or as evidence of the false filming. Perhaps you misread this, because the premise in your analysis is that because the west didn't proceed with releasing footage, after its intentions had been discovered and announced beforehand, delaying this blown false flag was purely to "punk" somebody.

Punks didn't punk nobody. Punks keep getting punked themselves.

Meanwhile, the way the resistance axis has bird-dogged this event is really quite amazing. They manage to forestall it at each turn by their stunning intelligence. They are amassing a formidable amount of evidence to take the the UN.

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 12, 2018 2:45:58 PM | 61

That is Ziad not his son Leith, apologies..

Posted by: Lozion | Sep 12, 2018 2:46:44 PM | 62

MoA got a mention on RTs CrossTalk -

https://youtu.be/jdKWv11pi1k?t=312

Posted by: TJ | Sep 12, 2018 3:25:58 PM | 63

Censorship promoters get censored ought to bring a chuckle but it doesn't with me at least.

Please visit the end of the last open thread to get my comment and links to the Eastern Economic Forum as what's being discussed there is the entire reason why the Outlaw US Empire threatens the entire world.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 3:53:30 PM | 64

Grieved

Russia hasn't lost any credibility with me, nor with any serious analysts or military around the world
I didn't say they had. I said it would be used for propaganda. That's to convince the public, not YOU or serious analysts or military.

MOD has been calling this false flag for weeks ...
That is meaningless wrt how Russia's mistaken call for ff on Tuesday will be used.

What the MOD asserted at your link ... perhaps you misread this.
I didn't misread it. I didn't claim it said anything different that what it does. MOD said video of CW event would be delivered on Tuesday. It wasn't. Period.

Was this assertion a lie or where they fooled? You decide.

... amassing a formidable amount of evidence to take the the UN.
It'll all be over waaay before it gets to the UN. Western media is manipulated and Western publics are ignorant and uncaring (mostly).

Anti-Russian demonstrations will likely be MUCH larger than anti-War demonstrations.

The world is splitting in two. And (sadly) everyone is becoming partisan.

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I thought this would be a lesson in how the West manipulates. Instead it is a lesson in how partisans of both sides will shoot-the-messenger.

Russia has been naive at times. You would think they'd be more wary after Lybia and Ukraine. Now Putin gambled on Erdogan and lost. I warned about Erdogan but the narrative that Erdogan turned east! drown out those warnings.

MOD was punked and 'Assad must go!' has a propaganda win (however minor you may think that is) but I'm the bad guy for pointing this out.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 4:08:04 PM | 65

IMO, there's so much fog and pea soup being flung and published that it's very difficult to make an accurate assessment of current events within SyRaq. But one aspect I'm confident in is the HumInt and SigInt being provided to SAA and RMoD, which of course isn't being shared with us. So far, we've trusted their abilities; and in three years, they've accomplished something never done previously--decisively defeated a Regime Change attempt by the Outlaw US Empire. Yes, it's been messy, and it's not over yet. But the accomplishment in Syria has emboldened the world whereas before it seemed that Resistance was Futile. As such, we all need to keep our eyes on both the Big Picture and the multitude of smaller events that make the whole--admittedly very demanding.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 4:22:15 PM | 66

As with last time, when SAA had to move from the Idlib front back to Ghouta and the south western pocket, SAA now seem to be concentrating on the south to forestall a US attack from that direction that will come with the media CW 'attack' in Idlib.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Sep 12, 2018 4:33:29 PM | 67

@65 JackRabbit "Russia has been naive at times."

I agree with that. It reminds me of Putin's words: "I don't get through to you." He really had not expected this and still doesn't.

Posted by: Antares | Sep 12, 2018 4:54:29 PM | 68

Jackrabbit

What the US are doing is planting the idea in the mind of the public that the Syrian Government will use chemical weapons and the US will respond (they have been building this up for weeks [initially if was 'if', then 'when', now 'Assad has ordered']). They already had millions of the western public in line once they started down this track, but, they don't really need (and won't seek) the permission of the public to launch an attack.

Russia are responding by planting the counter idea that the chemical weapons incidents will be a false flag. This introduces doubt in the mind of the public. But doubt has never been enough to stop the US doing something or even to establish what the truth is after an event has occurred.

You could argue that Russia showed weakness by even trying to persuade the western public that any CW attack would be a FF (as soon as they did this they were 'punked' in your terms). (But, in your terms, the US also 'punked' itself when it went down this elaborate path.)

As regards the Russian message; Russia has limited access to the western public and once a CW incident happens and the US attacks there will no access at all for the Russian message. (So they need to get the message out now because maybe tomorrow nobody will be listening)

A CW incident will not be the determining factor on whether the US attacks Syria and/or Russia; no matter what Russia say or can prove.

The real issue is, are the US convinced that Russia will respond if they attack and, if so, do the US fear the Russian response enough to back down. It doesn't matter if the CW event is real or fake, it doesn't matter if the US or Russia have the best media. It doesn't matter how justified or unjustified a US action will be. What matters is fear. If the US fear Russia they won't attack; if the US don't fear Russia they will attack.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 5:05:43 PM | 69

Alastair Crooke's latest provides an inkling as to why the Liberation Offensive seems to have halted with its ceasefire:

"We are, indeed, seeing a 180° degree turn: Pompeo’s new Syria envoy, James Jeffry, has made that crystal clear: 'Now', he said, 'the United States will not tolerate an attack - Period.'" {Emphasis in original]

Further explanation follows. Much of this is for domestic consumption, but is also aimed at reassuring Zionists. Tom Luongo voices our frustrations:

"If there’s one thing that makes this job difficult it is the endless smokescreens. Filtering out the noise is draining. From the double-speak of politicians to the endless manipulations of financial markets by central bankers the world is awash in fake news, fake prices and fake geniuses.

"So, when a series of events occur that bring clarity to the circus that is world politics, my first reaction is to distrust them. It’s that weird moment when the evil-doers rip off their masks and just start telling you what their intentions are. This creates cognitive dissonance in those of us conditioned to reading between the thinnest of lines."

But, when do you know for certain that "things are exactly what they appear to be?"


Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 5:13:07 PM | 70

Jackrabbitt @65

We are not worthy. You really need to stop wasting your time here and take your insights to The New Yorker where they will be appreciated.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 5:21:44 PM | 71

Karloff @69

"But, when do you know for certain that "things are exactly what they appear to be?""

Unfortunately, probably when it's far too late to do anything about it.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 5:27:03 PM | 72

ADKC

The one's that are not worthy are the asshat elites that play us at every turn.

Most of the rest are fearful and ignorant. Our advanced communications systems provide the tools to govern ourselves but only a clear failure by the elites will cause people to demand a change in how we are governed. It seems that we have to experience another Great Depression/World War before people are ready for change. Sad.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 5:34:02 PM | 73

TJ @42

This is an important post by TJ that has been a bit lost sight of.

Anglo-American False Flag chemical weapons attack on its way-

https://syrianperspective.com/2018/09/the-fake-cw-event-is-coming-its-being-filmed-already-syrian-army-devastates-terrorists-in-hama.html

Syrian Perspectives don't post an article often but when they do it's always worthwhile. There is a bit in the article about differences in how to proceed (because of the planned CWFF) which is interesting. Basically, its about halting operations in the area planned for the FF or taking control of the area. Article worth reading and more than just idle speculation (imo).

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 5:42:27 PM | 74

Jackrabbit @72

The US/Anglo/Zionists are the dominant elite (I suppose). They may be replaced by China/Russia elite who will then become the dominant elite (I suppose).

It would be nice to sit on the sidelines and let them destroy themselves and all the other elites but in so doing they would destroy the planet (and me and you, for that matter).

So we have no choice but to be played, play the game and urge our 'side' (that would be the US/Anglo/Zionists, I guess) not to launch an attack.

A moment of 'clear failure' will also be the moment of greatest risk to humanity (there is no guarantee of what the outcome would be; there is, unfortunately, unlikely to be any further 'experiences' after the next World War so it doesn't much matter what insights such an event may bring).

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 12, 2018 6:00:10 PM | 75

One USA politician has balls, and she isn't male:

"While President Trump & VP Pence give 9/11 speeches about how much they care about the victims of al-Qaeda’s attack on our country, they are simultaneously acting as protectors of AQ in Syria/Idlib, threatening Russia and Syria that if they attack al-Qaeda, we will punish them."

The comment thread to her tweet's reveals quite a lot, IMO. Out of 534 members of Congress, she was the only one to my knowledge who broadcast the Truth.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 6:09:24 PM | 76

@ karlof1 | 75

Tulsi is awesome, and she has more balls than the rest of the congressman, combined.

Posted by: Harry | Sep 12, 2018 6:34:05 PM | 77

I'm curious if the false flag will occur this Friday evening (EST), that way it would dominate the weekend coverage (but most people wouldn't read more than the headlines) and allow for a response on Monday. Additionally, the US has spent a small fortune just moving those ships into the Mediterranean so there must be some expectation of use beyond simply threatening Syria

Posted by: Kadath | Sep 12, 2018 6:40:34 PM | 78

@5 I find Fisk's report rather amateurish for several reasons. For one he assumes that the limited area he traveled through mostly on foot is the "front line". I doubt the SAA or its allies would let a foreign journalist who for all they know could be a MI6/CIA operative visit their most important staging points, artillery peices or troop gatherings. His line: "Russian and Syrians use "terrorism" now with all the alacrity that George W Bush deployed after he after he invaded Iraq-" sounds like an empty smear and is rather ridiculous. How can one compare Bush's rhetoric about Iraqis defending their own country from a illegal aggressive invasion of choice by US forces from across ocean to the Syrian army defending their own country from vicious head chopping Jihadis, many of which are foreigners and directly armed by foreign governments?
If he doesn't believe "terrorists" is a proper word for Hayat Tahrir al-Sham, Jabhat al-Wataniya al-Tahrir, Ahrar al-Sham or Noor Al Zinki or any of these groups, than what should we call them? Fisk dismisses the Western propaganda outlets estimates of numbers of fighters as well as more knowledgable less bias estimates by military analysts, yet his perspective is just traveling through some depopulated dead zones between the two sides.

Posted by: Jason | Sep 12, 2018 6:41:05 PM | 79

BigLie Media--1 Truth--0. Someone commented about the disgusting state of education within the Outlaw US Empire. Here's some sad evidence of that.

ADKC @74--

IMO, Russian and Chinese elite will not become the "dominant" elite in the sense that they seek to Rule the World as is the goal of Outlaw US Empire elites. Rather, they're fighting against their attempt to gain that position. That's the fundamental difference between the ideologies of Zerosumism and Win-Winism. What I see from Xi and Putin is they want to emancipate and empower people such that they enrich everyone and everything, whereas the goal of those representing the Deep State is to enslave as many as possible through debt for the sole enrichment of themselves. At a very fundamental level we're witnessing a repeat of Jesus at the Temple demanding the reinstatement of Mosaic Law, although the overt events we see aren't specific in that regard.

What's being demanded is the return to the Rule of Law-based system of relations versus an attempt to install the Power of the Gun--Might Makes Right--Multipolarity versus Unipolarity. The Outlaw US Empire has just threatened Russia with war if it continues to eliminate its terrorist proxies in Syria--but Trump didn't do the threatening as noted above. Yes, the situation's very serious, but how many realize that it's come to that point? Few, IMO, except for the Russians who always knew it might escalate this far.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 6:43:35 PM | 80

sorry meant to post above comment to new comments section. please delete from here

Posted by: Jason | Sep 12, 2018 6:44:18 PM | 81

Al-Masdar News reports the ceasefire in Idlib has ended with a major attack on the Eastern section of the province having commenced at 11pm local time. Given the timing of Hurricane Florence impact of US mainland, I'd expect the FF attack and response to occur Friday-Saturday as BigLie Media will be purposely providing Storm-porn.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 6:52:44 PM | 82

ADKC @74--

IMO, Russian and Chinese elite will not become the "dominant" elite in the sense that they seek to Rule the World as is the goal of Outlaw US Empire elites. Rather, they're fighting against their attempt to gain that position. That's the fundamental difference between the ideologies of Zerosumism and Win-Winism. What I see from Xi and Putin is they want to emancipate and empower people such that they enrich everyone and everything, whereas the goal of those representing the Deep State is to enslave as many as possible through debt for the sole enrichment of themselves. At a very fundamental level we're witnessing a repeat of Jesus at the Temple demanding the reinstatement of Mosaic Law, although the overt events we see aren't specific in that regard.

What's being demanded is the return to the Rule of Law-based system of relations versus an attempt to install the Power of the Gun--Might Makes Right--Multipolarity versus Unipolarity. The Outlaw US Empire has just threatened Russia with war if it continues to eliminate its terrorist proxies in Syria--but Trump didn't do the threatening as noted above. Yes, the situation's very serious, but how many realize that it's come to that point? Few, IMO, except for the Russians who always knew it might escalate this far.

Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 6:54:57 PM | 83

@73 adkc.. karlof1 picked up on that @51 and i commented @53.. i agree the article is worth reposting again as you did!

@78 jason.. i suspect fisk is known to the syrian gov't and would be given access to more then not.. i could be wrong... if the folks at pat langs are panning him, i think he must be good.. i would take everything anyone says about syria with a grain of salt.. none of the armchair warriors have actually gone to syria as fisk has... the article b linked to in his post is worth the read...

Posted by: james | Sep 12, 2018 7:47:50 PM | 84

Re: Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 12:39:53 PM | 51

"An Anglo-American crew arrived last Saturday to Idlib City by easily traversing the Turk border. They were spotted by agents of the Syrian government inside Idlib who reported the event to various security agencies. In their turn, Syria’s Military Intelligence Directorate informed the Russian military at Humaymeem who studied the evidence and came to the conclusion that in a few days the provocative event will take place.

"The Anglo-American team is made up, according to my sources, of 12 Americans, all of whom used to work for major “news” outlets like NBC and CBS. Among the American group are 4 Jews who hold dual citizenship; American and Zionist. The 6 Britons in the group are primarily MI6 contractors whose job is to provide security for the crew. (Wael says that the British group contains one expert in unconventional warfare). On Sunday, September 9, 2018, the crew met with representatives from Jabhat Al-Nusra, the so-called White Helmets and the Turkestan Party where they discussed the details. What the imbeciles did not know was that the room in which they were discussing the scenario was bugged. In that conversation, the MI agents learned that the staged CW event would take place in Jisr Al-Shughoor." [My Emphasis]

I'm curious about this report. If these operatives were spotted by agents of the Syrian Government - why weren't they neutralised?

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 9:44:01 PM | 85

@65 Jackrabbit

I hadn't understood the points you make in this comment. I accept them completely. I agree with all of them. My apologies for misunderstanding.

My fault, but I had moved into an area of thinking where what was said to the propagandized populations of the west had no bearing on what action could actually occur on the ground. This appears to be my point of departure from the commonalities of our discussion.

So, yes, of course all these things will be used and taken as proof of this and that, but all of this ammunition will then be used up on a captive populace for the day's lie.

None of this propaganda success will be of any use on the ground, where only real power will count.

Of course they can say that Putin was "punked". They've said much worse than this for a long time now. But Russia understands who has force on the ground and who doesn't, while the people of the US do not.

So why should Russia care about a convenient lie used by the US, versus the inconvenient truth that Russia commands the ground in ways that the US can no longer even dream of doing? As the Pentagon clearly understands, even while the US population does not.

Why would the parroting of the latest propaganda memes be a cause for "LULZ", rather than the gratitude for being on the caravan train that passes while the dogs bark?

Posted by: Grieved | Sep 12, 2018 9:48:22 PM | 86

Re: Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 12:39:53 PM | 51

I see you effectively asked the same question. Sorry for jumping the gun!

As I've been saying for awhile, SAA has lots of HumInt assets within Idlib. So, if the intel's that good, then why don't they just bomb them to pieces is the question I see most often asked. Is the capture of those people hoped/planned for? And what of the complicity of the Turks in this operation? Is the whole affair an elaborate Bear Trap?

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 9:49:47 PM | 87

In terms of a chemical weapons attack in Idlib.

Depending upon who has input into when it would occur - I wouldn't be surprised if it had been delayed a week or two.

Did anyone notice the huge hurricane about to slam into the Carolinas?

Hurricane Florence for anyone asleep.

The Chemical Weapons attack "false flag" is primarily about garnering A LOT OF AIRTIME. If the TV Networks are all covering Hurricane Florence for the next week - what's the point of it?

I'd say it'll be pushed back up to 2 weeks - so we're looking at September 20-25 as prime dates - depending on the severity of the Hurricane and damage.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 10:02:09 PM | 88

Re: Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 6:09:24 PM | 75

Indeed Tulsi is a star. She hasn't been turned yet. I do notice she keeps her criticisms of Trump fairly (or very even) muted for a typical Democrat - she knows that at least some of the things he's doing are worth doing.

It'll be interesting to see if she throws her hat in the ring for 2020 or not? I'm suspecting she may wait until 2024. It depends on what happens to Trump.

If Trump gets removed from office I'd say she'll definitely be a candidate against a President Pence.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 10:14:07 PM | 89

Re: Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 10:14:07 PM | 86

I should add. Tulsi backed Bernie for President, will he return the favour or run himself? Honestly don't know.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 10:16:16 PM | 90

I would add Tulsi isn't the only one who calls the agitprop around Syria out - there is Virginia State Senator Richard Black who has done it consistently for years.

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/syria-chemical-weapons-virginia-senator-richard-black-uk-mi6-assad-russia-a8529681.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/local/virginia-politics/va-state-senator-who-met-with-assad-says-british-planning-fake-chemical-attack/2018/09/08/6c5b76b6-b363-11e8-9a6a-565d92a3585d_story.html?utm_term=.15e1954b213c

Not sure how many of you realise this but State Senator Black has been calling out Hillary Clinton et al all the way back to Libya-2011.

Did you also know.

Who was paid handsomely to run against State Senator Richard Black?

Jill McCabe. Wife of Andy McCabe. Picked by Clinton Cabal 'Bagman' Terry McAuliffe.

I'm surprised this Clinton targeting of Black isn't called out more often really. I haven't seen anyone but myself make that exact connection - on several occasions.

Posted by: Julian | Sep 12, 2018 10:27:29 PM | 91

fars news today.. White Helmets Organization Planning to Transfer Chemicals to New Locations in Syria's Hama

Posted by: james | Sep 12, 2018 10:56:46 PM | 92

Nikki Haley said today in an interview on Fox that the US would stroke over ANY attack in Idlib. Her words, "don't test us".

So, no need for a false flag chemical attack. Haley just announced that the US is the official protector of terrorists. Timely, huh, just the day after the 9/11 remembrance.

RT has a report on it and it is accurate to what she said.

Posted by: Woogs | Sep 12, 2018 11:01:49 PM | 93

Woogs

I such a commitment here:

4) The price for Erdogan to enter Idlib is high and INCLUDES demonstrable military support from FUKUS - that means a willingness by FUKUS to take military action.

I'm not patting myself on the back. Just pointing out events are moving as one would expect if one were skeptical of Erdogan's having "turned to the East".

In my view, Erdogan always had one foot in West and possibly both feet all along. Erdogan's stance now should cause a re-think of what the July 2016 apparent coup attempt was really all about. I've previously pointed out that this "gift from God" (Erdogan's words!) helped Assad must go! in many ways, including: strengthening a leader whose fundamental beliefs aligned with Assad must go! and helping the US to get close to the Kurds (who were skeptical of US intention until US-Turkey distancing).

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Sep 12, 2018 11:36:41 PM | 94

What the imbeciles did not know was that the room in which they were discussing the scenario was bugged. In that conversation, the MI agents learned that the staged CW event would take place in Jisr Al-Shughoor.
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 12:39:53 PM | 51

That being the case, why on earth did that man release that information? In future the they will be more careful with their speech and intelligence will be adversely affected.

Posted by: BM | Sep 13, 2018 1:43:28 AM | 95

"We Are Everywhere" is the title of the linked article introducing yet another video from an SAA spy within Idlib out for a drive around town. I don't think those running the Outlaw US Empire's show in Syria realize just how compromised they are!
Posted by: karlof1 | Sep 12, 2018 2:28:23 PM | 58

One thing all this wealth of HumInt definitively shows is that the Syrian government and the Russians have a LOT of support amongst the local people - even in Idlib! It is the direct result of the government/Russian behaviour, which gains people's support and trust - the diametric opposite of what happens wherever the US military goes.

Even the former rebels who surrendered and became integrated into the pro-government forces are - by all the reports I have seen - performing well and loyally and giving good quality information.

All this bullshit about all the civilians in the jihadi zones being anti-Assad is just pure lies.

Posted by: BM | Sep 13, 2018 1:57:50 AM | 96

Julian @86:

Gabbard won't run for the POTUS until she is certain that Clinton is completely out of the picture.

Posted by: Ian | Sep 13, 2018 3:25:27 AM | 97

@90 "timely"

Yep. US declared war on the world because AQ demolished a couple of buildings and some US life forms.
Now US protects AQ. The average US yanker wanker should feel proud of their country.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Sep 13, 2018 4:37:31 AM | 98

It seems to me that the Russians & SAA guys realise that if a false flag gas attack actually kicks off, it becomes pretty much impossible to get their truths heard over the crescendo of bulldust from Fukusi and their pwned media. Therefore they are letting the thugees know that their unknowns are in fact, known, thereby preventing an attack & putting the fear of god into the types on the ground in Idlib, who will be expected to do the dirty work.
Letting em know their secret has become local gossip is a simple way of pushing the thugees into a corner.
Taking out one or two midlevel AQ or isis operatives would be doable but it would get those local thugees running around like blue-arsed flies looking for the 'assassins' which is sure to constrict them, plus the thugee bosses would replace those who have been dealt to, meaning that the SAA operatives are going to have to take a few steps back while they discover who the new guys tasked to do the false flag are.

This way they are demoralising the opposition without sticking their heads up staying safe while thugee trust sinks. Causing finger pointing and blame in aq & isis.

One last thing, whatever the SAA or Russians say was the method they used to get their intelligence is imo, the least likely way they got it. Deceit about ways and means is pretty much rule number one in the spying game.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Sep 13, 2018 4:55:13 AM | 99

Debisdead @99

I would tend to agree with your post. I would add (imo) that the humint is intimately embedded in the rebels themselves (possibly all the way to the top). I would have thought (with the relocations to Idlib) that the infiltration is considerable.

Posted by: ADKC | Sep 13, 2018 5:30:07 AM | 100

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