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Just read out on the Internet that the Orc-lover, McCain has croaked! May he roast, slowly, in Hell!

Antoinetta III

Posted by: Antoinetta III | Aug 26, 2018 3:01:09 PM | 2

Beware

nhs continues to use url shorteners (bit.ly) despite repeated requests to stop doing so.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 26, 2018 3:22:37 PM | 3

this nhs thing is interesting.. why does nhs do it and why does b skip saying anything about it? i am mildly curious..

Posted by: james | Aug 26, 2018 3:36:36 PM | 4

When they announced the end of McCain's treatment, I knew that WE were in for some ugly treatment. Still, I'm surprised today by how sickening the obituaries actually are.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 26, 2018 3:41:33 PM | 5

Russia Sends Largest Naval Armada of Syrian War Amidst New Chemical Attack Warnings

https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-25/russia-sends-largest-naval-armada-syrian-war-amidst-new-chemical-provocation

"Russia has built up its forces around the Mediterranean Sea in response to reports that the US, France and Great Britain could be preparing to attack Syria..."

Posted by: John Gilberts | Aug 26, 2018 3:56:13 PM | 6

Caitlin got it right:

https://caitlinjohnstone.com/2018/08/24/do-not-let-them-make-a-saint-of-this-asshole/

Posted by: Jahbulon | Aug 26, 2018 4:04:29 PM | 7

Jahbulon @7

Link doesn't work for me.

I get this response: "Resource Limit Is Reached
The website is temporarily unable to service your request as it exceeded resource limit. Please try again later."

That hasn't happened to me before on a CJ linked article.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 26, 2018 4:26:24 PM | 8

Some shitheel intel mouthpiece at "The Medium" has a list of 151 "Assadists". Yes, it's hilarious. What's strange in this day and age is that the comments section has gone uncensored and people like Caitlin Johnstone have showed up to defend themselves. (So far at least).

This Kester Ratcliff, definitely an Eliot Higgins type, with no qualifications or frame of reference,is just doing God's work(God's work being bolstering the jihadi version of events in Syria and tearing his hair out about Russia). His bio:

EvoBio MSc student at RUG in Groningen, refugee solidarity volunteer, activist, political thinker.

From what I can tell from his Medium history, he was picked up bc of some screed he wrote to The Independent's editors about Robert Fisk and how he should be unpersoned for questioning the official story in Syria. Apparently this is all one has to do now to become an internationally-renowned expert. Shout down the rational voices, get hired. One no longer gets ahead by mimicry, you have to smear someone righteous. It's a sort of humiliation ritual I guess.

No doubt we'll see him on some UN panel or other for his efforts.

Posted by: sejomoje | Aug 26, 2018 5:13:11 PM | 9

Spudski, Caitlin's website is being attacked. I'm surprised it ever functions smoothly tbh, with the hounds of hell nip-nipping at it.

Posted by: sejomoje | Aug 26, 2018 5:14:39 PM | 10

Caitlin also writes at Medium. Her current articles are all there including the one above about McCain.

Posted by: sejomoje | Aug 26, 2018 5:19:31 PM | 11

sejomoje @ 11

Thank you.

Posted by: spudski | Aug 26, 2018 5:27:04 PM | 12

medium is a very dubious website at best.. the article by kester ratfuck is really quite pathetic.. oh well. hopefully the pay is good! i see he missed moa / b and pat lang... so much for his lame ass list..

Posted by: james | Aug 26, 2018 5:28:48 PM | 13

I concur heartily with Caitlin Johnstone's plea, but it may already have been overtaken by events. The tsunami of posthumous glurge in response to McCain's death is astonishing.

Even "Human Rights Watch" has gotten into the act, as I learned from "Jack" posting to Craig Murray's site".

See: "John McCain: In Memoriam". The following is a slightly tweaked version of my reply to Jack:

HRW’s smarmy eulogy is not as surprising as it would’ve been a few months ago. It’s a symptom of the “world turn’d upside-down”– or, to use Trollope’s title, “The Way We Live Now”.

The “soft” progressive-liberal bloc in the US, individuals and organizations alike, have become so pathologically consumed with the conviction that Donald Trump is the Great Orange Satan who must be removed from office forthwith, and by any means necessary, that they hysterically embrace any public figure who opposes (opposed) Trump.

I frequent prog-lib sites in the US, where I live, principally to read and post in the comments threads. The prog-lib moderates are not really of the “left”, a term which has become a semantic placeholder for anyone or anything that doesn’t explicitly identify as right-wing or politically conservative.

But before they were traumatized by, in their view, the abominable Trump usurping the imperial Oval Office Throne, they used to be reliably antiwar, anti-imperialist, anti-military, anti-police state, etc.

Now, the Democratic Party establishment and fellow-traveling organizations have realigned– flipped their lids– to a point in which they reflexively support everything that purports to oppose and undermine Trump. They even regard the nefarious state-security apparatchiks in the FBI and CIA, and the “brutal fixers” in the Department of “Justice” who have been assiduously working to construct a frame-up job, or crucifix upon which to hang Trump, as heroes.

It’s appalling.

The HRW site has an orange header with this message: "Help us to continue to fight human rights abuses. Please give now to support our work."

I consider their authoritarian-submissive, anodyne tribute to McCain to be a human rights abuse. Physician, heal thyself!

Posted by: Ort | Aug 26, 2018 5:30:41 PM | 14

The self-proclaimed Social-Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's words praising the late War Criminal John McCain prove she's not what she declares. There was also info posted providing evidence she's linked to the Soros machine, but I can't recall where I saw it so I can't provide the link. The alleged Soros connection might be a scam, but nobody forced her to write about a person worthy only of scorn at best.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26, 2018 5:44:12 PM | 15

HRW has always been garbage - and since Ken Roth's been in charge; unbagged, stinking street garbage. How many times did he "accidentally" post pics of war torn Gaza as "Assad's"Syria, and "Qadaffi's" Libya before that? He only grudglingly apologized for the last instance where showed Gaza as "Aleppo", and only because his twatter was overcome with protest tweets.

Posted by: sejomoje | Aug 26, 2018 5:46:07 PM | 16

On the imminent 'chemical attack by the Russians' take a moment to read Israel Shamir's excellent piece at Unz review:
http://www.unz.com/ishamir/trump-and-corbyn/

Thanks to Caitlin for an excellent obit.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 26, 2018 5:55:08 PM | 17

McCain is alleged to have received large donations from nathaniel rothschild (London) and Saudi Arabia

He had also been linked to sanctioned Russian oligarch Oleg Deripaska (As was his 1996 running mate Bob Dole and nathaniel rothschild) and his aids working with Manafrot helped Putin take control of Montenegro , which Derispaka then looted

https://www.thenation.com/article/mccains-kremlin-ties/

I suppose McCain may be inline for a posthumous Knighthood.

I dont have the hate some seem to have for him. Lot of others ahead of him. That said I wont be mourning him. Might be a good week to take a break and binge watch Family Affair or some other 50/60's TV series

Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 5:55:43 PM | 18

The average person has an IQ of around 96. It used to be 100. About 40% of people run between 60 and 85. The data from US so perhaps other regions fare better

Average IQ has been shrinking about 1.2 points per decade for almost a century and Testosterone levels have been shrinking almost 10% per decade since the 60's. Fertility rates in the developed world are have been declining since the 1970's and are below replacement levels in many areas. Hence the need for immigration Life expectancy in the US is lower than 10 years ago due to declines the past couple of years after being stagnant for almost a decade. UK also experiencing recent declines.

Some believe its due to environmental and/or economic factors but I wonder if the species is in a fatal degenerative state or devolution.

Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 6:13:43 PM | 19

17

Interesting bit from that link

"P.S. The first ever trial of a Holocaust Denier in Russia is taking place now in Perm, the Doctor Zhivago city. Roman Yushkov, a Perm University Professor, had been sacked; his social accounts erased, his YouTube presentations removed; there is practically no publicity at all. He reposted an article expressing doubt of the amount of Jewish dead, and a local resident of Habad Chassid House reported him to authorities. There is no law forbidding H denial in Russia, but there is a law forbidding to cause interethnic wrangle. The verdict is expected on September 4. "

Putins Rabbi at work there

Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 6:25:33 PM | 20

Re McCain

I'd like to pass on a few bits of information which I looked up today. As to what an ace he's been in politics. In sheer numbers, he has in fact been the worst presidential candidate in the last 20 years, of either side. In the popular vote as well as with electors, he did worse than controversial candidates like George W. Bush, Hillary Clinton, or Donald Trump. Compare that to the gushing tone of today's orbituaries.

Posted by: Scotch Bingeington | Aug 26, 2018 6:25:55 PM | 21

18

Related earlier article on MCCain, Davis (of Davis Manafort) and Follieri with Anne Hathaway.

https://www.thenation.com

/article/mccain-follieri-love-boat/

Here's the photo
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk
/wordpress/wp-content/uploads/2014/08/CRUISING-WITH-CRIMINALS.jpg

Posted by: fast freddy | Aug 26, 2018 6:53:01 PM | 22

ptf @19

Devolution is not the opposite of evolution. Evolution is really just the ability to successfully reproduce and pass on your genes. It doesn't mean progress. Genes are not selfish they are strictly neutral. Adaptation is the result of the hurdles you have to overcome to successfully reproduce. If you create an artificial environment (money, work, cars, pay, banks, credit, promotion) and only fitting into that artificial environment guarantees passing on your genes then we might be creating humans who are unable to survive in reality. The genes we really need might be quietly blowing their brains out or jumping off tall buildings. When the artificial environment collapses we will start doing the same thing.

Posted by: ADKC | Aug 26, 2018 7:05:25 PM | 23

@ karlof1 | 15

The self-proclaimed Social-Democrat Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's words praising the late War Criminal John McCain prove she's not what she declares.
_____________________________

So many bees have accumulated in my bonnet that by now I should be drenched in a perpetually-flowing coating of honey. One of the bees is what I call Progressive-Liberal Electoral Politics 101.

This refers to the tendency of "lesser-evil" moderates to rebut and reject doubts and criticisms of politicians with supposedly knowing, savvy "inside politics" rationales that explain away the criticisms.

It really hit home during Obama's 2008 campaign, when an intelligent but moderate "progressive" relative, "Joe", became infatuated with Bonnie Prince Barry; he vainly hoped I'd become enthralled too. Just a couple of examples:

I was outraged (but not surprised) when Obama reneged on his repeated "vows" to oppose draconian FISA legislation that gave carte blanche to government/corporate surveillance, and immunized corporations who'd illegally and illicitly assisted in conducting such surveillance. Joe responded to my outrage by superciliously explaining, "Oh, he had to do that! He can't just say and do things to keep progressives happy-- he has to reassure a fearful and desperate public that he's 'tough' on national security issues!"

Joe also whipped out this "Oh, he had to do that!" justification at the drop of a hat every time Obama did or didn't do something that seemed to conflict with his progressive "Third Way" image; when nominee and president-elect Obama packed his transition team and cabinet with reactionary Clintonista retreads and Goldman-Sachs banksters, Joe praised this as a shrewd "pragmatic" gambit to "consolidate his support within the party". There was always some pat prog-lib catechism blurb explaining why "he had to do that", case closed.

I've seen exactly this logic applied to AOC. To True Believers, if she seems equivocal, or even confused, about the nature of (Democratic) socialism-- or, as here, expresses anodyne, conformist, safe positions, they will justify this as sensible reticence. AOC has to appeal to the elusive "center", and charm skeptical voters by not appearing unduly extreme or, God forbid, radical.

As with Obama and others similarly situated, they pretend that once the ostensible Third Way newcomer is accepted and established, they can and will gradually disclose their true political selves, and act accordingly. Regardless of how often this scenario fails to work as hoped, they remain convinced that it's both unavoidable and prudent.

Posted by: Ort | Aug 26, 2018 8:06:17 PM | 24

Re John McCain, I'll paraphrase what I already mentioned on another thread.

If Karma's a reality, McCain will be, in his next incarnation, a common Yemeni goat herder.

I'll shed no tears for one John McCain...

Posted by: ben | Aug 26, 2018 8:49:03 PM | 25

"The billionaire class is not fit to rule" a video from Paul Jay of TRNN:

https://therealnews.com/stories/the-billionaire-class-is-not-fit-to-rule-paul-jay

Posted by: ben | Aug 26, 2018 9:13:05 PM | 26

karlof1 | Aug 26, 2018 5:44:12 PM | 15

Maybe this will help;
http://theduran.com/details-of-ocasio-cortezs-ties-to-george-soros-revealed/

Posted by: V | Aug 26, 2018 9:20:40 PM | 27

I wouldnt get too excited about AOC comments. She interned with Kennedy who was good friends with McCain. Interesting that both died on the date of the same cancer (Glioblastomas )

Cant go anywhere in politics on the left without bumping into groups funded by soros

One person is not changing anything anyways

Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 9:26:43 PM | 28

The subject of SST's latest piece is the demise of John McCain. I wanted to say something unflattering about him but the author of the SST piece summed up my feelings toward McCain with delicious brevity in his closing sentence...

"Anyone fighting for a genuine peace in the world will not mourn the passing of John McCain."

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Aug 26, 2018 10:45:05 PM | 29

Top Individual Contributors: All Federal Contributions 2018

And this is just the tip of the iceburg..

https://www.opensecrets.org/overview/topindivs.php

Koch brothers are listed at @ # 94. That's a laugh..

Posted by: ben | Aug 26, 2018 11:09:49 PM | 30

Ben@30

Koch bros super pacs and dark money from their 501 (c) 's. Their direct individual contributions are a drop in the bucket.

Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 12:17:22 AM | 31

Pft (19):
"The average person has an IQ of around 96. It used to be 100. About 40% of people run between 60 and 85. The data from US so perhaps other regions fare better"
I noticed a decline during my schooltime (I live in Europe). I also noticed how effective learning material was replaced by garbage. I once scored a 9,5 (out of 10) for a German test (apologies to b) but I really didn't understand what the text was about. I just chose the only grammatically correct answers by putting a cross in front of them. Putting crosses is a habit of illiterates, as proven by now.

"Fertility rates in the developed world are have been declining since the 1970's and are below replacement levels in many areas. Hence the need for immigration Life expectancy in the US is lower than 10 years ago due to declines the past couple of years after being stagnant for almost a decade. UK also experiencing recent declines."

This 'problem' is perhaps the solution to overpopulation. Other nations should follow our good example. As for now I sometimes phrase that the world doesn't need lions, tigres, sharks, alligators and other predators anymore. We are more successful.

Posted by: Antares | Aug 27, 2018 2:39:40 AM | 32

As a contribution to the occasional commentary on the capture of social networks by the MIC I offer the IMDB page for A Snipers War

This documentary was commissioned by and shown on Amazon Prime of all places where it had an extremely short run. When I saw that and it's score on IMDB (at that time 1/10) I nearly moved on without investigation but 1/10 how does that happen? Even the cheapest "The Room" rip off scores better than that as friends and family of the cast & crew generally inflate their scores so that the most abysmal P.O.S. cops a 4.2 or so. That would have happened here so for this to score a 1 an awful lot of people must have marked it very low.

That is what happened. If you check the 'reviews' on the IMDB page I linked to you will find that nearly all entries were made on the same date 31st July 2018. That shouldn't be possible given that only registered members who have been subjected to email addy verification are allowed to enter a score for a movie. Lo and behold all these reviewers had also registered with IMDB on 31st July just to vote on this one movie.
Does that pass anyone's sniff test? I considered knocking up a script using a spam avoidance site to do the same, but what a hassle - life got in the way so I didn't - since by the time I discovered the rort it was well past the w...z release date making it unlikely that all that effort would increase the sites listing the doco anyway.

Why all the fuss?
Well "A Snipers Tale" is the profile of a Serbian bloke who lost most of his blood relations at the age of 17 when the amerika/NATO created 'Bosnia crisis' kicked off.
Remember that amerika bombed the bejeesuz outta Serbia. After that this chap joined a Serbian militia and made a bit of a name for himself as a sniper in that conflict.
He could never really settle down and ended up working as a welder in Russia at the time the fascists took over the Ukraine. Some of his comrades from the Serbian stoush prevailed upon him to volunteer and help out the people of Donbass, since he has cleared many fascisti away from their homes, in the process becoming a bit of a local hero.
A man who takes great risks and it is pretty much inevitable he will end up dead, but he just cannot seem to stop.

This is a well made doco in Russian & Serbo-Croat with english subtitles hardcoded in. Worth at least 7/10 on IMDB.
Because it can be tricky to find I've whacked it up on mega here The rez is OK, HiDef but there are a coupla sites with 1080's, no 4k tho, for those like me who prefer hi res vids.

This is a good doco in every way, if you prefer not to use this link perseverance should get you a torrent.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 27, 2018 3:04:33 AM | 33

John McCain's eternal legacy is the presentation of Sarah Palin als a bona fide US political sex bomb. Remember how many media guys publicly drooled over her to prove their cojones? And then along came Donald Trump... What more does anyone need to say.

P.S. You might be forgiven for thinking he was the only US prisoner of war in North Vietnam.

Posted by: Quentin | Aug 27, 2018 4:20:22 AM | 34

Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 9:26:43 PM | 28

I wouldnt get too excited about AOC comments.

Cant go anywhere in politics on the left without bumping into groups funded by soros

One person is not changing anything anyways

Which is exactly why it's a disease to keep looking to any of this political-class scum. They all have exactly the same corporate/technocratic/imperial agenda. It's merely which flavor one prefers*; that's the only difference. Those who like Bernie Sanders (a con artist since he was mayor of Burlington) and his clones like AOC still want the exact same system which Trump or Hillary voters want.

Those who want something different have burn their bridges with this electoral system. (And most of all with the Democrat Party.)

*Same goes globally. It's good if China and Russia really are building opposition to the US empire which can help bring it down more quickly. But they offer no alternative to the same productionist economic civilization which is destroying humanity and the Earth.

Posted by: Russ | Aug 27, 2018 4:24:25 AM | 35

Well if there wasnt any doubt that the western establishment wasnt sick before - there are clear evidence now when a warcriminal and a racist like John McCain get all positive support after his death.

His actions has led to millions of dead people and he himself have probably killed off a few innocents in Vietnam.
Scum!

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 27, 2018 4:46:00 AM | 36

karlof 1 @15

Re Soros, I think the articular that you were looking for is possibly in THE DURAN, August 23 2018, headed Details of Ocasio Cortez's ties to George Soros revealed. hope this what you wanted.

Posted by: the Old Coot from AUS | Aug 27, 2018 5:48:42 AM | 37

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 26, 2018 5:44:12 PM | 15

She is saying that he was a nice person. I have stopped believing a long time ago that people with the "correct" politics are necessarily nice people though it is not exclusive.

I am prepared to believe that war mongering reactionaries can be nice people though I tend to avoid their company.

It is quite possible that people who turn their agression into politics can be nice privately and vice versa.

Posted by: somebody | Aug 27, 2018 5:50:13 AM | 38

Posted by: Russ | Aug 27, 2018 4:24:25 AM | 35

Of course any 'cure' is merely an alternative manifestation of the disease. Perfectly logical if one considers basically how ethically & philosophically wrong it is for any human to desire leadership over any other human. All we can ever do is help provide our brothers and sisters with the knowledge, skills and tools to set about making their own decisions independent of any over arching wannabe authority.

Any person who claims - shout, vote, sing or shoot for me, is merely a new boss seeking to become an old boss and must be ignored.
If we all do manage to ignore any/all the fork-tongued bulldust artists, just that makes it unnecessary for us to soil ourselves by putting them down for being the superfluous to current needs skull-fuckers they are.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 27, 2018 6:00:04 AM | 39

Here is an insightful - but depressing - analysis by Finian Cunningham of why the US loves to be bogged down in Afghanistan:

Why US Imperialism Loves Afghan Quagmire

Posted by: BM | Aug 27, 2018 7:34:44 AM | 40

Russ@35

I agree with you. Just saying anyone who seeks change within the system must play along. I do not believe they hsve any chance of success though and like Sanders will be coopted ot corrupted. The system must be changed first

Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 8:28:25 AM | 41

Pft

Sanders is a joke, apparently he's not alone in the Dems party.

Ocasio Cortez Faces Backlash For Comment on John McCain
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zwqTMgrQAgo

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 27, 2018 9:08:09 AM | 42

sorry this is the link:

These 3,600 Comments Are None Too Pleased With Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez's John McCain Tweet
https://jezebel.com/these-3-600-comments-are-none-too-pleased-with-alexandr-1828611560

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 27, 2018 9:11:27 AM | 43

Pft @19

The simplest answer is the Fluorine in the water. Rots the brain and reduces the sperm count. It is a poison. No need for any other explanation.
(I think that Ireland and the US are the only two places that still put Fluorine in the water - I suspect this was done deliberately, but that would mean naming a suspect and what they would gain by dumbing down the population. I don't know if Fluorine in toothpaste would have as much effect - but un-fluoridated toothpaste is extremely difficult to find)

Posted by: stonebird | Aug 27, 2018 9:53:21 AM | 44

HRW is one of many CIA front shops. Doctors Without Borders is another. The evidence is apparent in the press statements, photos and general propaganda.

In other news, The Duran "Henny Penny's" this:


Russia’s Vostok-2018 drills are scheduled to take place in late August and early September, which will involve Russian troops deployed to the Eastern and Central Military Districts, as well as the Northern Fleet.

This year, China will take part in the strategic military drills. The Chinese Defense Ministry said in a statement on Monday…

“In accordance with an agreement reached by China and Russia, the parties will hold joint military drills at the Tsugol training range in Russia’s Trans-Baikal Region on September 11-15.”

Posted by: fastfreddy | Aug 27, 2018 10:16:06 AM | 45

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 27, 2018 6:00:04 AM | 39

All we can ever do is help provide our brothers and sisters with the knowledge, skills and tools to set about making their own decisions independent of any over arching wannabe authority.

Yes, I think so too. For example I'm dedicated, in action and as a writer, to relocalizing food production and distribution on the basis of agroecology and food sovereignty. (Industrial agriculture, besides being physically unsustainable and doomed soon to collapse, equals physical poisoning and social enslavement.)

Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 8:28:25 AM | 41

Thanks for the clarification. I think these people all want to play along. Otherwise they wouldn't choose the within-the-system paths they choose. Ironically, it's the likes of the Sanders and Stein supporters who are most unequivocally supporters of the status quo, albeit as "constructive critics", a "loyal opposition". Regular Republican and Democrat voters could in many cases be doing it more out of inertia or conformism, but an AOC fanatic is definitely a true believer in "American democracy".

As far as what you said about deterioration, I attribute the physical part to environmental poisons from industry.

Posted by: Russ | Aug 27, 2018 11:05:02 AM | 46

From Chinese media

White Helmets controversy reveals Western media bias


Chinese people used to believe the Western media "independent" and "objective." It has been increasingly proven in recent years that Western public opinion institutions have acted as a tool to safeguard the interests of their own country and the West on issues regarding non-Western major powers such as China and Russia.

Posted by: Virgile | Aug 27, 2018 11:35:52 AM | 47

Russ

Clear as a bell: Sanders + Obama + Stein, have, together, proven that the system is rigged.

Obama:
was elected as a progressive that would deliver "Change You Can Believe In". His deceit is now legendary.

Lesson: Candidates approved by establishment Parties will serve the establishment.

Stein:
was handcuffed to a chair to prevent her participation in Presidential debates.

Lesson: "outsiders" that might actually bring real change will not be allowed a chance to gain control.

Sanders:
was presented as the "real deal", an independent progressive (! get excited !) but he was only a sheepdog for Hillary (as real progressives warned - but who listens to those losers anyway). This "second bite at the apple" for real change (after Obama's falseness) further proved that the Democratic Party is nothing but false hope.

Lesson: "Abandon Hope, All Ye Who Enter Here".

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 27, 2018 11:45:37 AM | 48

@ Posted by: Pft | Aug 26, 2018 6:13:43 PM | 19

First of all, IQ is pseudoscience. The end of the 19th Century and the beginning of the 20th Century was the golden age of pseudo science: science in general was flourishing with the second industrial revolution. And, with that, also came the pseudoscientists, with their pseudosciences (psychology, anthropology, sociology, vulgar economics, "behavioural" studies etc.). IQ was one of the fruits of this collateral effect that has survived until our days, mainly as a crutch for neofascists (mainly white supremacists) to justify an alledged black inferiority.

Let's clarify the issue: there's a significant difference in IQ levels between rich and poor countries, and the abyss is even larger if you take the extremely poor countries (mainly, Subsaaran African countries). That's why many white supremacists love IQ.

But, there's no correlation between individual sucess and IQ levels. The 96 average is indeed only in the USA: if you take the more affluent countries in West Europe or Japan, the average is hoovers around 110. Does this means anything? We don't know, since IQ tests are always updated over time and always adjusted to the perceived average level of intelligence of the target population. So, 100 is always the (perceived) average, regardless of the era. Thing is: the very concept of intelligence is pseudoscience, it is a flawed concept, by design.

Now, of course psychometricians will tell you IQ is solid scientific methodology. But then, psychometry is also a pseudoscience.

As #23 has already stated, the portraiture of natural selection as a positivist march towards intelligence is a myth: many species extant today are much more sucessful than the homo sapiens evolutionarily and are much "dumber"; unicelular species are much fitter than multicelular ones, not less. To paint intelligence as the teleology of evolution is pure human bias. Those sci-fy theories of intelligence as the only way life can perpetuate itself beyond planets is pure nonsense: they are just ideologies (albeit ideologies of our time). As ideologies, they can motivate humankind to, in the far future, survive for longer by colonising other planets, but, philosophically, they are useless.

Posted by: vk | Aug 27, 2018 11:50:45 AM | 49

Thanks for the many replies and V for providing The Duran article link!

Long ago when I researched the Continental Congress I came across an adage about representative government: Once you elect someone your job's only begun for now you must watch him like a hawk to ensure he properly promotes your interests. I thought this the perfect description of what the citizen's job is after elections as the Congressman's now in charge of the monies you've provided the government via taxes. If your money's spent unwisely, it's your job to inform your rep that he did wrong and gets one further opportunity to redeem himself; and that if he fails again, it's your job to vote him out by finding a suitable replacement. In other words, self-governing via the type of representative system within the USA is actually a fulltime job--if--responsible government that serves the interests of the citizenry first is desired. That's the Civics I taught. The excuse often given that modern life leaves no time for such citizen management's a bunch of poppycock. The laziness thus implied seems to have spellbound the citizenry during the early 1900s, either before or during WW1 and has only worsened since.

Many here opine that the system must change. As the above indicates, I disagree. Citizen apathy must be arrested and turned on its head into mass citizen activism; otherwise, the system will never work as designed--nor will any other. What I've witnessed over my lifetime proves the necessity of what John Kenneth Galbraith espoused in his 1952 book American Capitalism: The Concept of Countervailing Power, which updated Madison's Checks and Balances political theory and predicted where the USA's polity would end up if the public failed to rise to the occasion and perform its job as active self-governing citizens. Yes, today's situation is more dire than the early 1950s regarding the balance of power, but the government cannot function without citizens--and therein lies the power vested within the public. But if the public refuses to use its power, then the government will turn them into serfs as its been steadily doing since the institution of neoliberalism under Carter.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 11:58:09 AM | 50

Ancient loosely democratic systems mostly worked because they involved mostly people who didn't work, or worked part-time, and had slaves (Athens) or plebeian servants and clients (Rome) doing most of the work for them. That's a key reason why I think massive reduction of working time is required to have a democratic system in our societies.

Posted by: Karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 12:07:43 PM | 51

https://mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKCN1LC16T

So what is TRUMPSTER up to?

Posted by: Circe | Aug 27, 2018 12:12:23 PM | 52

@35 russ quote "*Same goes globally. It's good if China and Russia really are building opposition to the US empire which can help bring it down more quickly. But they offer no alternative to the same productionist economic civilization which is destroying humanity and the Earth."

i agree with that.. not sure what to do about that..

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 12:13:21 PM | 53

Karlofi @ 51
That's a lovely concise and fresh discription of where we need to be improving democracy.
To add my bit ! We really do need to fix main stream media particuly news out-lets. If the public are deceived into mistaken voting or into apathy deliberately, then wet sunk ! as we are ! Rubbish in rubbish out !!!
Any suggestions re a media fix ?

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 27, 2018 12:34:52 PM | 54

Typo 'were' not wet oops

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 27, 2018 12:37:49 PM | 55

Barflies may recall that a dynamic conference including the main political entities within Afghanistan had been announced to convene in Moscow beginning 4 September. Unfortunately, the Afghan government after committing to attending wilted under Outlaw US Empire pressure to decline to attend, thus placing a major spanner in the works. Today at EurasiaFurture, Garrie and Korybko provide 3 separate articles about that and other related developments. I began with Garrie's item asking "Why is Kabul Trying to Sabotage Russia’s Afghan Peace Conference?" Korybko then observes: "While Everyone Was Watching Syria, The US Tried To Stage A False Flag In Afghanistan" and provides the reasons why. Koybko then informs us the conference was "abruptly postponed," spinning it as a "strategic delay."

Lots to digest, but don't ignore the other articles they published today!

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 12:45:32 PM | 56

Gee, I've been imitated @51. Fortunately, it knows little of Roman or Greek history as its posting is nonsense.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 12:50:10 PM | 57

Stupid me. That was me at 51, and I guess I messed up the tab key when wanting to reply to karlof1 because my personal info has been wiped out. So I entered his name and post number too early, ending up writing it under Name when I thought I was already at "message". Sorry about that, I wasn't trying to want to impersonate people...

Still, I'm not saying most people aren't a bit lazy, procrastinating and have been made stupider by the system and the media, but they shouldn't get the whole blame, they're not alone. Most people in the 20th century didn't have as much free time / otium as the old voting classes had in ancient times. Specially if you take into consideration that the Roman Republic allowed the majority of votes to the top 20% of Roman citizenry (for many matters, it wasn't a "one man / one vote" system but a tribe/class system, with a few centuries stacked with the numerous lower classes and the higher (equestrian and senatorial) classes controlling most of the centuries. The Athenian voting body wasn't even 10% of the people - if you include slaves and women. It was as democratic as you could get at the time, but still far from what we now have.
So, basically, I'm looking at ways to improve democracy and what needs to be done. Curtailing the prevalence of current media, TV to begin with, is of course necessary, but we can't expect everyone to begin to think independently if most people go back home tired, exhausted and upset because of long hours of work - most of these people will want mindless entertainment and not to have deep profound thoughts and debates about the fate of mankind and of the Universe. Not only do we need educated masses, we also need masses that are far less tied to tiring stupidifying work.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 27, 2018 1:18:38 PM | 58

Karlofi @ 57
Was @ 50 the real karlofi that had good sense in it, 51 not so

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 27, 2018 1:18:39 PM | 59

7

USA has been on a Permanent War Economy since I was born at the end of WW2. Every public national campaign of the illegitimate Deep Purple Mil.Gov UniParty Super State metastasizing has been a domestic social war, the War on Drugs, the War on Poverty, as two fine examples of their glioblastomatic spread.

They are at -$5,000B a year now bleedout of the public wealth, -$800B Deficit thanks to No Taxes for the Rich, -$22,000B National Debt and another -$500B interest-only...FOREVER...debt service to the Global Banks. You can't get any more dead busted hillbilly broke than that!

Sy Hersh says we are at war in 73 countries. There are over 700 foreign military bases and outposts. Yet many times the private economy collapsed under their pogroms, I was always able to find a mercenary contractor job with their War Machine to save myself from pushing a shopping cart of my belongings up and down the avenue.

Was just talking an hour ago with an old street chum of mine how we lived in hobo jungle wikiups made of pallets, alder branches and vizqueen after Viet Nam, and lived in yurts out in the tundra during the horror of Reagan One. Then he left the country looking for work, and I wised up. Got a cubicle at Livermore Labs on Stars Wars. It was like day and night. Now people called me sir! I set my own goals, no expectations, no deadlines. In fact, not one of Reagan's Star Wars pogroms ever deployed, except Patriot Missile. That's why they call it The Blue Team. It's where all your last life savings go to be interred.

Things are turning rapidly to shite, the US retail market is cratering, and energy and food is spiking. Today Trump announced a New Deal with Mexico and an end of NAFTA with Canada. With his 25% Fed VAT trade tax slush fund and his jinking Hard Right on trade to grow that tax pipeline, he has everyone chattering like gibbons about Trump's many peccadillos, ...but America is a Permanent War Economy!

Embrace the New American Century Eternal Now!

Get Blue Team, or die trying!

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 27, 2018 1:20:33 PM | 60

India & Pakistani military cooperating for first time! I pinned high hopes on their becoming SCO members; this is the first tangible result. Now if only a reasonable politico like Khan can rise to become India's PM.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 1:21:28 PM | 61

49

God, love it!

I got 99.9% on my MAT exam, and then could get into any graduate school I want, just because I had a blue-blood New England college education and hung in those circles.

Here's an example of the MAT 'intelligence' (sic) test:

Camembert:Roquefort::Chateaubriand:?

A. Billy Bob's Smoke House Pork Ribs
B. Schwenkebraten mit Kartoffeln
C. Tagine with rghaif

I mean who the hell but another blue-blood as'hole is going to know the answer, or what the words even mean? They probably have a pornographic exam just like this for prospective Catholic bishops, lol.

That's not 'intelligence'! It's a derelict relic of the English cigar and cognac bankrupt royals club. It's a screening tool to keep out rif-raf, that's all it is.

And, I should point out, there is no test prep for MAT vocab or way of thinking in public school. The only test prep we teach there is for passing GED and ASVAB, so you can be inducted into the Permanent War Machine economy.

That itself is a form of societal intelligence. Joining the babbling CALP Ivory Tower consiglieres is no place you wanna be, talking in tongues, groveling for grants.

"Oh, I have a few qualms, all right. Sure. . . but not too many. Not yet, anyway. I guess it hasn't really hit me yet. It takes things a while to hit me. All I'm doing right now is thinking about going home Wednesday. I'm a moron."

"Do you feel absolutely no concern for your future, boy?"

"Oh, I feel some concern for my future, all right. Sure. Sure, I do." I thought about it for a minute. "But not too much, I guess. Not too much, I guess."

"You will," old Spencer said. "You will, boy. You will when it's too late."

Get Blue Team, or die trying!

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 27, 2018 1:59:37 PM | 62

Regime Change in Myanmar? Given the existence of the supposedly non-existent UN order to provide no reconstruction help to Syria until Assad's eliminated, this newly minted UN report charging Myanmar's military with genocide is very suspect and begs the question: Where're the UN reports on genocide being waged upon Palestinians and Iraqis, as well as other peoples via illegal sanctions and the economic warfare they represent?

As far as responses, IMO Garrie's suggestions have merit. But the greater proof being provided is the doubling-down being done by the Outlaw US Empire proving it has yet to abandon its policy of attaining Full Spectrum Domination. Clearly, Trump's being allowed to do whatever he wants while the Deep State continues its policy drive.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 2:38:14 PM | 63

Sorry, but the "overworked" and "lack of time" canards given for lack of the public's political participation is proven false by the 19th Century's Populists. Plus, there's the many documented experiences of the early 20th Century's labor organizers who worked 6-day weeks and were very deeply involved in politics, which is what organizing labor entails as it's fundamentally political work. There's a little-known writing genre generated by writers who were also labor organizers whose works were published primarily between the world wars documenting that work which will never be included in any literary canon and have effectively been flushed down the memory hole.

Franklin supposedly said about the type of government formed by the 1787 Constitution: It's a Republic, if you can keep it. How does one "keep" a government? By holding its leash. What constitutes the leash? Continual, aggressive, collective oversight. The system was clearly set up favoring the "natural aristocracy" as was stated during the debates over ratification as was the only possible solution aside from changing the system--The system was changed by the Bill of Right's addition. So, whatever happened to the leash?

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 3:12:18 PM | 64

62

What are the internal issues in Myanmar? Is the government nationalizing oil or another resource? Is it rejecting the US dollar in some manner?

Posted by: fastfreddy | Aug 27, 2018 3:33:53 PM | 65

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 12:13:21 PM | 53

"not sure what to do about that.."

I see zero prospect of the Homo domesticus politico-economic class (worldwide) doing anything whatsoever to change, nor of the people changing. The economic civilization, among its many other evils, is designed to kill the human soul.

The Earth itself will have to impose the ecological correction it always does, sooner or later. Economic-humanity will probably contribute with acts of mass psychosis. But there will never be a rational, planned attempt to save civilization. Just look at how, for all the hand-wringing and crocodile-tearing over the climate crisis, the global liberal and STEM class have no answer but to Keep Shopping. In this case for industrial renewables, electric cars, "greener" consumer products, similar fraudulent capitalist deployments. Keep Shopping. And of course driving...

The same goes for all the other ecological and spiritual crises.

What'll have to happen is what James Lovelock called Gaia's phase change. Climate chaos and eventually permanent change, along with other ecological revolutions, will carry this out. By now berserk economic-humanity is wielding the weapon of its own destruction, and its homicidal campaign against the Earth has become a kamikaze plunge.

I do have some hope that once the tyrant/parasite is purged, humanity will still exist and be able to return to the ecological ways of living, which by definition are the only human ways of life.

Posted by: Russ | Aug 27, 2018 3:40:36 PM | 66

Appears that The Rohingya Muslims (rebels) are being used by CIAnato as a wedge to destabilize and break up Myanmar for the purpose of looting by Multinational Corps.

Yugoslavia provides a template for such a bust up.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Aug 27, 2018 3:46:11 PM | 67

@66 There is also the question of a large new port that China will be financing.

Posted by: dh | Aug 27, 2018 3:51:11 PM | 68

Myanmar army were being trained up by British solders before the genacide that's no coincidence !

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 27, 2018 4:08:46 PM | 69

Looks like another missile strike is coming from FUKUS on Syria, and soon. Watch for that chemical attack:
https://southfront.org/us-brings-more-cruise-missile-carriers-to-middle-east-syrian-air-defense-prepare-to-repel-strikes/

Posted by: m | Aug 27, 2018 4:09:28 PM | 70

@65 russ... thanks for sharing your take on where we are and where we are headed.. people can't seem to figure it out on their own or perhaps the predators among us haven't evolved enough to see how they are messing up the planet chasing after money..

i noticed earlier @46 you mentioned you are into localized food production.. i read a number of wendell berry books a few years ago.. he talks of agribiz and how it is depleting the top soil and essentially runs most of food production at present in north america.. you goal is admirable.. how are you going about achieving it? i suppose the 100 or 50 mile diet is a part of it? thanks.

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 5:03:53 PM | 71

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 27, 2018 9:11:27 AM | 43

That was a total BS whitewash link Zanon. A complete BS red herring link to a trash site that used the thousands of negative responses to AOC's sellout praise for the murderous hater McCain to further polish the turd.

Zanon is a waste of space and AO Cortez is disgusting.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 27, 2018 5:10:56 PM | 72

In the most recent Hudson Report, Michael explains the current state of the economy and the basic differences between how a public bank would operate versus a big private bank, which ought to interest the many barflies advocating public banking. Hudson references a report written by The Democracy Collaborative, The Crisis Next Time: Planning for Public ownership as Alternative to Corporate Bailouts, which can be found and downloaded here. At 74 pages, I've yet to digest it having just discovered it, but an Executive Summary's provided.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 27, 2018 5:16:30 PM | 73

With regard to regime change in Myanmar:

Poking a stick in the spokes of a closer relationship with China would be useful to the US. Might a weaker central authority also facilitate increased production of illegal goods e.g., opium, meth, jade, etc? Chaos is good for transnational criminal organizations!

Posted by: TheBAG | Aug 27, 2018 5:22:07 PM | 74

Posted by: fastfreddy | Aug 27, 2018 3:33:53 PM | 64

Myanmar issues are energy issues. Myanmar oil and gas to be piped through Myanmar to China from sources on the seaboard. Rohinya (muslim) underclass immigrants forced to flee from Bangladesh settled a century or more ago in Myanmar and were convenient for slave trading and slave workers throughout SE Asia. Recently they got hold of arms and counterattacked budhist exploiting communities in Myanmar and the army responded with a savage attack to drive them back to Bangladesh as they also threatened to destroy the pipelines on behalf of the USA that supplied the arms. Myanmar army says they are a new ISIS front.

They are islamic pawns fomented by the USA to damage China. Same old story same human consequences.

There are many sides to the story. The above may not be entirely accurate. But essentially Myanmar national and cultural integrity is undermined by Rohingya influx and their value as slaves is not worth the price.

Posted by: uncle tungsten | Aug 27, 2018 5:24:51 PM | 75

"Burning in hell: Russian press sheds few tears for McCain" (AFP)

FWIW, I noticed this story on the aptly-named Yahoo site. The spin on McCain's death has mostly concentrated on what a Great Amerikan he was, in contrast to the brutish, disrespectful Trump.

This is the only one I've seen so far that incorporates the raging Russophobic angle.

I assume that Agence France-Presse (AFP) is as compromised as AP and Reuters.

Posted by: Ort | Aug 27, 2018 5:27:06 PM | 76

Karlof 63
Sure, if you have a population that is well-educated and trained to think about issues, keep well-informed and the like, you can hope to run a functional democracy, even if people have to work a lot to make their system run. Thing is, such a population will change sooner or later, and just like later generations tend to forget how horrible wars are and go back to warmongering, or how later generations forget what hard-working is, and might ruin what earlier generations built, the reason for being fully invested in your country's politics and how to do it well will sooner or later disappear from living memory. That's why I want to create an easier starting situation for the people - so that, without being 100% fail-proof, the system won't collapse as quickly and as totally as it is doing nowadays in the West. So, you have to take into account many people might tend to go for the easy path and be a bit lazy - all the while we should work hard to improve people's global intelligence and information and knowledge awareness. Of course, in the long run, I hope we'll get a better more intelligent, wiser and more knowledgeable mankind, but we still have to prepare and plan for flaws, accidents, mistakes and failures.
Note that I don't oppose your reasoning and proposals/wishes, I want to put some checks and failsafes mechanisms as much as possible.

As for Myanmar, China is investing a lot - not in absolute amount of money, mind you, but it has the lion's share of international investment there, probably by a wide margin. To the point the locals are a bit annoyed that China get some kind of preferential treatment and can pick a fair share of the local resources it helped to develop.
As said, it's also part of the Belt and Road project, with the main trade highway ongoing major expansion, and with a longer-term project of building some oil terminal on the Western coast - at most a few hundred km away from the area where the Rohingya troubles are going on -, that will allow to ship oil from the Gulf to China without having to go through the straits near Malacca - avoiding a risky bottleneck that is at least partly controlled by the US, and one that the US can easily mess with.
Last but not least, China right now has a bulwark on its Southern belly; Laos, Vietnam and Myanmar are quite safe countries, when it comes to military strategy. I guess that having a more hostile entity/regime there would be a nice addition for US imperialism.
That said, hope for real regime change might be a fool's errand, imho. The current political system in Myanmar reminds me a bit of 70s/80s Turkey, mostly democratic and elected, but still with a strong presence from the military - they constitutionally get 1/4 of the parliament's seats, for instance, and my bet is that like the Turkish army of old, they would intervene if an elected government tried to do something too bold. Still, I'd say Burmese mostly support the current system, the president is an ally of Aung San Sun Kyi (like previous one who resigned in March), and I'd say both have a considerable popular support from the Burmese (I won't and can't comment on the various ethnic minorities), so unless the regime change involves diminishing the military's influence and increasing the power of the current civilian leadership, it just can't happen.


Russ 65
What bothers me the most is that, if we don't move our behind, whatever happens to mankind of things go to shit, change the global economic system and stop ruining the planet, we'll take a huge part of the other species down with us - there won't be many species bigger than a cat left around when this will be over. And frankly, if I'm ready to allow mankind to choose to destroy itself (which would already sadden me), like any sentient species who deserves free will and choice, I'm quite upset that mankind thinks it can choose for the whole biosphere and can go around killing off thousands of other species like there's no tomorrow.

Posted by: Clueless Joe | Aug 27, 2018 5:32:07 PM | 77

Looks like the Myanmar puzzle is coming together. The US Americans whom are sleeping. So called liberals saluting the blood-soaked McCain, they've no idea that the US government uses Muslims, funds, trains and equips as proxies and agents provocateurs to bust up countries regularly, habitually. Humanitarian Interventions. They want so much to believe in the goodness of the USA.

Posted by: fast freddy | Aug 27, 2018 5:41:54 PM | 78

@77 ff... believing in the goodness of the usa, is like believing in the tooth fairy.. unfortunately a good number of americans continue like this and are completely in the dark on the horrors being committed by their good ol usa... selling patriotism, flag waving, honouring the troops and all the rest of it is meant to keep the herd believing in the goodness of the usa.. it is complete bs, but hey - bs is good for the garden, which happens to be the military/financial complex at this point..

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 6:00:40 PM | 79

@76 A key figure in Myanmar is Sean Turnell, an Australian economic advisor to Aung San Suu Kyi. He seems to be strongly opposed to China's plans to build a port.

Posted by: dh | Aug 27, 2018 7:08:34 PM | 80

Kudos to the President for resisting the cowtowing to McStain's bs eugoogolies. And for the bilateral deal with Mexico. Whatever the contents, it's a start away from the blob of NAFTA.

Thanks also for the link to that doco, Debs @33. Looks interesting.

Posted by: NemesisCalling | Aug 27, 2018 7:14:01 PM | 81

>> I assume that Agence France-Presse (AFP) is as compromised as AP and Reuters.

Years ago on Alternet and RawStory, the stories that induced the most eyerolling and vomiting (by me and other readers) for their superficiality, brevity, and bias usually turned out to be AFP.

Posted by: dumbass | Aug 27, 2018 7:14:32 PM | 82

Nazi rioters on the streets of Germany today ! Attacking enyone that looks like a foreigner ! Doing nazi salutes !

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 27, 2018 7:16:08 PM | 83

Pft 18
During McCain's 2008 campaign, a lot of us noticed the Rothschild fundraiser he attended at their mansion in England. By law there cannot be direct money from the Big Boys but they can throw a big ticker party. Michael Collins Piper has a good article about this called John McCain's Rothschild Connection.

Posted by: Curtis | Aug 27, 2018 7:27:36 PM | 84

@79 dh.. at this point australia is being the good goalkeeper for the usa... i think the switch up in the leadership of australia the past week is about more of the same neo con agenda... wild guess..

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 7:50:37 PM | 85

Russ@65

"I do have some hope that once the tyrant/parasite is purged, humanity will still exist and be able to return to the ecological ways of living, which by definition are the only human ways of life."

Perhaps the tryants/parasites plan is to purge a good chunk of humanity to save Gaia. 40% of humans have an IQ between 60-85 and that percentage is rising. With automation and AI coming on, and a technological economic elite , who may be diverging from the masses in an evolutionary divergence comparable to homosapiens/neanderthals

No neanderthals left today although I imagine some of us homo sapiens will be kept around as slaves for the homo domesticus , or for entertainment

Might want to rethink who is going to be purged

Perhaps going from 6.66 billion to 666 million will ease the resource /environmental crunch. 28 years is a movie that gives a hint on how such a thing might be possible. With fertility rates as low as they are and declining, we aren't that far off. Over the last 50 years the global fertility rate has halved. Below replacement level in much of the developed world and higher rates in poor nations are offset by lower life expectancy


Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 8:26:05 PM | 86

Here's a McCain article from Truthdig:

https://www.truthdig.com/articles/investigating-john-mccains-tragedy-at-sea/

Posted by: ben | Aug 27, 2018 8:35:40 PM | 87

james @ 78 said:" selling patriotism, flag waving, honouring the troops and all the rest of it is meant to keep the herd believing in the goodness of the usa.. it is complete bs, but hey - bs is good for the garden, which happens to be the military/financial complex at this point.."

Nailed that one james, that's why it's always good to "drink upstream from the herd"..

Reading MoA's threads is a way to do that.

Posted by: ben | Aug 27, 2018 8:45:33 PM | 88

Craig Murray pounces on feckless BBC reporter.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Aug 27, 2018 9:05:18 PM | 89

Vk@49

Not saying IQ is the best indicator of intelligence but a sustained decline surely has significance

Success has as much to do with luck as intelligence, but surely there is a bell curve when it comes to intelligence and while perhaps not perfectly correlated with IQ, IQ must be accepted as a proxy in lieu of any alternative
measure. At the macro level IQ has value even if its value at the individual level is less so, at least for differences under 1-2 standard deviations

I agree with your distaste for pseudo science. The pseudo sciences of today wish us to believe racial differences do not exist, indeed, they deny race in itself exists. The p value fallacy has eliminated science as it existed ibefore the post WWII period. Since then we have had few scientific break throughs, just better engineering of previous scientific discoveries. Now we have the biggest pseudo science of all which is science based on mathematical models with large numbers of free parameters and numerous dubious data adjustments and assumptions that make up economics and climate science

Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 9:08:59 PM | 90

Ben@86

Thanks for the link. His father was also involved in the cover up of the USS Liberty attack the same year

https://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2016/07/26/the-israeli-attack-on-the-uss-liberty-paul-craig-roberts/

Posted by: Pft | Aug 27, 2018 9:16:46 PM | 91

Syria: Tens of Children Kidnapped for False-Flag Chemical Attack Videos
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13970605000898

Posted by: james | Aug 27, 2018 9:31:53 PM | 92

@79

Thanks for that info, I hadn't realised there was a neoliberal worm in the Myanmar economic policy ranks.

Here he talks about reforming the economy, floating of the exchange rate as a crucial technical reform and an important symbolic gesture in signalling the return of the “market” as a central coordinating mechanism for the economy, and opening the economy to the extension of greater freedoms for private (foreign) banks to engage the rural sector.
Interview: Sean Turnell

In this article he uses the "debt trap" argument against the port.
Myanmar mindful of Sri Lanka’s debt crisis when mulling Kyaukphyu SEZ

Posted by: Dadda | Aug 27, 2018 9:39:38 PM | 93

IQ results are totally dependent on the culture of the population being measured. In instances where the test compilers and those tested share the same or similar culture it may have some limited relevance, but only if it is recognised that subjects or 'marks' from other cultures will always score lower than they would if they were being tested using terms from their own heritage.
This was partially recognised at the inception of this flawed device by setting the mean scores from an initial sample at IQ 100, then using whatever actual score was equated to an IQ of 100 as the basis for complete testing of a population. Results were scaled up or down accordingly.
Of course there are obvious problems with that technique, not least of all that for a time in the 1960s and 70's many educators taught to the test. Students heads' were filled with current basic mathematical concepts and some outright scams such as teaching kids most of the more widespread metaphors in use by that culture. Apart from the dishonesty of such a move it also petrified normal evolution of language - why stretch yer brain devising a new way of saying something when you had so many established expressions available 'off the rack'? This caused an increase in 'IQ" even though there had been no corresponding increase in basic cognition.

Of course back in the mid to late 20th century education systems, particularly amerikan education systems were like the population, pretty much monocultural. If african americans scored poorly that was because they were appreciably stupider than whitefellas. Few questioned that nonsense, but amerika became much more culturally diverse yet for some insane and likely racist reason education and the testing which was alleged to measure its efficacy became even more standardised.

The result is there for all to see, a drop in both mean and average IQ scores despite there being no evidence of a concomitant reduction in the population's cognitive ability.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 27, 2018 9:41:25 PM | 94

We need less success and nothing to worry about

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 27, 2018 10:29:32 PM | 95

@ karlof1 with the latest Michael Hudson link and the policy paper about my favorite topic......making banking a public utility!!!!

It is nice to read about other folks beating my one note Samba. It would be nice to see the intelligence and energies of Daniel/Mark2 behind the Democracy Collaborative proposal......so now that it is not my idea how about if assumed younger than my 70 Daniel and Mark2 tell this old barfly why they are not joining that army...if not, exactly what army are you advocating for?

And for myself.....until and unless I heal further i am only good for textual white noise about the big picture problems.....but I keep trying....146 neurofeedback sessions over 3 years and now with a 3rd provider that is doing what the other two should have done....sigh

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 27, 2018 11:25:39 PM | 96

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A_ns18S7gHM

Posted by: donkeytale | Aug 27, 2018 11:45:26 PM | 97

I suspect the international scientific community has some opinions about what the "trade" antics of Trump will do to the advancement of science...Good Science is the latest example of US/China folks that aren't out trying to control their fellow humans.....two new vegetable fatty acids called Nebraskanic acid and Wuhanic acid.

It is nice to read that most of the world tries to keep marching our species forward.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 27, 2018 11:46:11 PM | 98

Here is some more Good Science

This time it is a backhanded way of saying that a 48 hour water fast for humans should activate a gene in the liver that improves their insulin sensitivity...resistance to diabetes.

Added benefits
"
Researchers at Washington University School of Medicine in St. Louis also found that activating the gene also triggers an increase in calories burned, reduces fat accumulation and weight gain, and lessens measures of fats and cholesterol in the blood.
"

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 28, 2018 12:05:43 AM | 99

@87 thanks ben! just my usual rant, lol..

Posted by: james | Aug 28, 2018 12:34:13 AM | 100

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