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August 05, 2018

The MoA Week In Review - Open Thread 2018-39

Last week's posts on Moon of Alabama:

The talk in U.S. media is all about "denuclearization". But denuclearization is the last step in the four step Joint Statement Donald Trump and Kim Jong-un signed in Singapore. "New US-DPRK relations", "a lasting and stable peace regime" and "security guarantees to the DPRK" come before "denuclearisation". They are preconditions. The U.S. side tries to skip over them. At the current ASEAN Regional Forum the Foreign Minister of North Korea Ri Yong Ho again emphasized the sequencing:

Confidence is not a sentiment to be cultivated overnight. In order to build full confidence between the DPRK and the U.S., it is essential for both sides to take simultaneous actions and phased steps to do what is possible one after another.

We believe that the only practical way for moving forward is to take a new approach of giving priority to confidence-building and implementing all items of the Joint Statement in a balanced, simultaneous and phased way.

Only when the U.S. ensures that we feel comfortable with and come close to it, will we be able to open our minds to the U.S. and show it in action.

This is the core essence of the spirit of the agreement shared by the leaders of the DPRK and the U.S.

The New York Times report on that Ri Yong Ho speech is repeating the false emphasis on "denuclearization". Its characterization of the four steps of the Singapore Statement is wrong:

Mr. Trump and Mr. Kim held their historic summit meeting in Singapore on June 12, signing a document in which Mr. Kim committed to work toward a “complete denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula” while Mr. Trump promised to provide security guarantees to the North and to build “new” bilateral relations. They recognized that “mutual confidence building can promote the denuclearization of the Korean Peninsula.”

The NYT sets denuclearisation first and security guarantees and relation building as second. The "building of a peace regime", i.e. the formal ending of the Korea War by a peace treaty, is not mentioned at all. The relevant facts a reader needs to understand the North Korean complain are simply left out.

Aaron Maté interviewed Professor Isa Blumi, the author of "Destroying Yemen", on The Real News Network: The Saudi-US Agenda Behind Destroying Yemen. Blumi talks of the larger "western" motives in supporting the Saudi/UAE assault on Yemen: resources, fishing rights, sea control and more.

Use as open thread ...

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That was quite a week all right! The Empire on cruise control.

Posted by: Guerrero | Aug 5, 2018 11:21:17 AM | 1

@2 nhs

Every war america has started ,began with an orchestrated false flag Vietnam, Afghanistan , Iraq,Syria... thats the way of an empire bent on world domination after all: finding any excuse to subjugate the "stubborn" resistance left and if there isnt any just create one ie false flag

Posted by: occidentosis | Aug 5, 2018 12:27:26 PM | 2

I was wondering about the status of General Wesley Clark's "Seven countries in 5 years". We know that happened to Iraq, Syria, Libya. We hear a lot about Iran in the media. Yemen is not even on the list.
But what about Lebanon, Somalia and Sudan. We hear so little about those countries, what's going on there? A quick search tells me Lebanon Is Boiling again since the 2006 war, Somalia is engaged in a civil war, but even the wikipedia page has not been updated since 2016. Same for the war in Darfur (Somalia). Have they been checked off the list but nobody cares? If so, the Iran really is due soon.

Posted by: Joost | Aug 5, 2018 1:10:06 PM | 3

vk @5--

Obama's Kill List--now Trump's--missed its target. I knew it wouldn't be too long before drones would be used for an assassination attempt. Fortunately for Maduro and the Venezuelan people the CIA's very incompetent. But as with Castro, this was only the first of how ever many attempts to make the hit.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 1:44:40 PM | 5

Sorry for the long link at nº 5; it was supposed to end at "far-right faction".

Another observation: drones with C4 have the CIA's footprint all over it. That happens because the way the CIA operates internally: its agents are promoted on the basis of the number of projetcts they head, and usually the one who heads a project is the one who idealizes it. So, the CIA basically operates on brainstorms after brainstorms. That's why so many crazy, completely out of the box, plans and assassination attempts pop out (see the long list of assassination attempts plans against Fidel Castro).

But the right-wing in Latin America is so crazy, specially the Venezuelan and Brazilian ones, that I sincerely don't doubt they thought and improvised that one against Maduro on their own. Of course, you can't simply buy C4, members of the Police force and the judicial system are also from the far-right and directly involved, but that we already knew (see that crazy shooting over a building from a helicopter episode).

Posted by: vk | Aug 5, 2018 1:46:04 PM | 6

What the attempted hit on Maduro reveals is the ongoing escalation of the "counter-revolution" to regain Latin America from its movement toward a just social-democrat political economy that began in 2009 with the Obama engineered coup in Honduras after 8 years of BushCo ineptitude. Only Bolivia and Venezuela have proven resilient to the onslaught, so one wonders what's cowed the citizens of the remaining nations as they seem to have surrendered. There's been very little discussion here since Syria, Russiagate, Skripals, Iran, and Yemen have mostly dominated the investigative effort. Instead of heading North to try and enter the Outlaw US Empire, the displaced ought to march on their national capitals to retake their governments from the forces of Reaction as that's the only real solution--The oppressed must make Justice for themselves as they certainly won't get it from El Norte where they'll just get ICEd for their efforts, the Statue of Liberty having long ago turned into a prison's watch tower.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 2:14:58 PM | 7

Bangladesh becoming further destabilized as what began as legitimate protests against one major problem seem likely to ignite a widespread revolt against one of the few remaining Outlaw US Empire vassals within The Heartland. The situation warrants scrutiny as Bangladesh's a nation with a very bleak future outlook that might rapidly become even worse.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 2:27:30 PM | 8

America's aggressive refocus on Latin America is a symptom of its decline as the sole superpower.

When a sole superpower begins to consolidate its geostrategical position (i.e. its sphere of influence, its "backyard") that implies it is downgrading to a normal supowerpower (i.e. a superpower among others, multipolarity). Very bad news for Latin America.

Posted by: vk | Aug 5, 2018 2:30:38 PM | 9

RT article I think is bang on:

https://www.rt.com/op-ed/434924-left-policy-identity-divided/

Posted by: spudski | Aug 5, 2018 2:37:00 PM | 10

Not being reported by BigLie Media: Reduced tensions with DPRK allows Japan to retire anti-missile batteries that don't work anyway.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 3:15:23 PM | 11

Aaron Maté interviewed Professor Isa Blumi, the author of "Destroying Yemen", on The Real News Network: The Saudi-US Agenda Behind Destroying Yemen. Blumi talks of the larger "western" motives in supporting the Saudi/UAE assault on Yemen: resources, fishing rights, sea control and more. [CUT PASTE FROM A FELLOW POSTER]

I stopped believing any higher and lower reasons for the atrocities other than supplying talking points to our elite and the politicians who need to discuss IMPORTANT MATTERS (rather than explaining why USA has the worst public transit in OECD or something like that) and lucre for companies that hire our top officers when they retire -- which assures that they are more influential than, say, tomato processors.* Propping the dollar, securing the fish etc could be achieved for much, much less than a trillion dollars per year (order of magnitude for USA with allies).

* For all I know, the lobby of tomato processors also may get some suspicious laws passed in its favor, but with less mayhem resulting.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 5, 2018 3:25:26 PM | 12

When a sole superpower begins to consolidate its geostrategical position (i.e. its sphere of influence, its "backyard") that implies it is downgrading to a normal supowerpower (i.e. a superpower among others, multipolarity). Very bad news for Latin America.

Posted by: vk | Aug 5, 2018 2:30:38 PM | 10

How is that "news"? Perhaps 120 years ago there was a novelty element here. It is not like USA would start changing regimes in Latin America, it is more that outside Western Hemisphere you cannot show particular gains. At the very least, in an aftermath of a Banana War the supply of cheap bananas is still secure, perhaps more so than before since labor organizers can be gunned down by local death squads for hire.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 5, 2018 3:32:38 PM | 13

Karlofi @. 9
I throughly agree with all you say There, We must be carefull we don't all become so mesmerised with what's going on in world affairs, that we don't pay attention to what's happening in our own back yard ! Our own nations are sinking in to the pits of hell. We must not be apathetic! They have as we know closed down all normal channels of real information and media. We all do need to take to the streets to save the nation. Even if that goes against our natural inclination !
Today the alt right fascists marched in Portland USA and were met with a counter March, the police were protecting the fascists (as usual .) we always need a big show of force to let them know we won't tolerate fascism. There people who enjoy violence by nature, inadequate, smelly, low I Q ,they own vicious fighting dogs And have no necks ! And the men are just as bad!!!

Posted by: Mark2 | Aug 5, 2018 3:36:24 PM | 14

¡Democrácia en acción! Voting for comisario. Last Sunday in a SouthWest Mexico village.

https://youtu.be/6owznrl3RKg Sorry. I do not quite get it how the text link code works.

Posted by: Guerrero | Aug 5, 2018 3:46:32 PM | 15

spudski @11:

Thanks for posting that link. The article is, as you say, spot on. Every time someone on the right cites 'Cultural Marxism' to me in relation to identity politics, I have to point out to them that this kind of Fake Leftism has nothing to do with Marxism or real ideas of socialism, which is about class, not identities, and that such identity battles can only help the 1%.

And even class, for those that mention it at all is too often about an expression of traditional social, cultural identity rather than where one actually stands in relation to the production of goods and services in the modern economy. Many people think they are middle class because they have a degree and work in an office, but they earn fuck-all and may never even own their own home, let alone hold a genuine stake in capitalism. Flat caps, regional accents and a job down a coal mine is no longer a useful profile of the working-class.

So excellent a tool of divide-and-rule is identity politics, that if the Fake Left hadn't invented it, the ruling class would have had to.

Posted by: Ash | Aug 5, 2018 5:40:59 PM | 16

The term "Cultural Marxism" is clearly an aberration created by the right-wing in the West. The targets of "Cultural Marxism" 1) didn't came from the traditional left, but from a fusion between the "Non-Communist Left" (NCL) and mainstream liberalism and 2) they never considered themselves Marxists nor claimed to be the inheritors of the Marxist tradition.

The only beyond doubt extant State that is openly Marxist and claims to be inheritors of Marxism is China and, perhaps, Vietnam (I'm not following Vietnamese politics these days, so I don't know if there were reforms). Even Cuba only became socialist after the Revolution, but it was a geopolitical necessity of the time (the USSR was still there) and I don't think there's any reference to Marxism in their Constitution. Venezuela is definitely not Marxist: their concept of socialism is completely different, it is more like a badge of rebellion against the "Boss from the North" (i.e. the USA) then any kind of internationalist projetct.

Posted by: vk | Aug 5, 2018 6:12:11 PM | 17

Berman 14
Noticed in ' Hallmarke' Yankee romantic soapies there is often a trip to business interests in South America on the part of protagonists - there is always some 'feel-good aspect too !
The boyfriend leaving his lassie behind statewise - ' I'll soon be back ' - is embarked (always ?) on some altruistic up skilling process for the natives - oops ! locals .

Posted by: ashley albanese | Aug 5, 2018 6:16:32 PM | 18

@19 The boyfriends have to go to South America. They aren't allowed to go to Thailand on their own.

Posted by: dh | Aug 5, 2018 6:31:22 PM | 19

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Prequel - From 2011 to 2015 I was a MIC contractor, civilian personnel operations, not ammunition. I was also a business services contractor. Double-down when the cod are running, right?!

In 2012, Pentagon announced all civilian and military personnel records had been hacked. They said, 'Get Equifax' in the post communique. and my employercwent through an orgy of OPSEC.

Then in 2013 Pentagon sent another urgent missive, all MIC contractors records and bank transfer files had been hacked. Pentagon said, 'Get EquiFax!' My banker called that week and said there was a coordinated effort to hack my Pentagon-tied business bank account. Everyone went into an orgy of OPSEC.

Then, of course, EquiFax got hacked.

So the last couple of years we've seen bizarre Pentagon budget increases, even mid-year bailouts, as, in 2017, Pentagon burned through its $2B a DAY budget in only 8 months. They got a $35B budget hike for 2018, and Trump is testing a $40B hike in 2019. Pentagon is bleeding out.

So back to Iran. Trump's No Taxes for the Rich has created the same bleedout, but 20x bigger. OMB estimates the Deficit will hit $800B, and Trump is expected to sing a Second $1.5T Omnibus Debt Bill next month.

The signs are clear. NASA is cutting back. TSA is cutting back. MediCare is projected to go insolvent. And Trump launched his illegal 25% Fed VAT sales tax, branded 'tariffs', to create a $100B's revenue stream, totally unaudited, from our wallets directly to the Deep State offshore bank accounts. Retail will be crushed, as food and energy keep rising.

Iran has nothing to worry about. Trump's VICIOUS TWEET LIKE NOTHING IN HUMAN HISTORY, is a toothless old fossil behind the curtain, frantically working the levers and smoke acreens. The Blue waves will cover their watery grave.

We are dead busted, $22,000,000,000,000 hillbilly broke. This is the part of the movie where the Titanic breaks in half.

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 5, 2018 7:10:31 PM | 20

Venezuela's perspective, under Chavez at least, was very very international. This seems to have changed some under Maduro

Posted by: paul | Aug 5, 2018 7:38:26 PM | 21

The thing that gets me about this attempt on President Maduro is that it is so unbelievably half-arsed. Those quadcopters which appears to be what was used are incapable of being both accurate and lethal. A couple of xmases ago I got a mate in Shenzhen to send us a few for something to play with over the holidays. They are good fun and it doesn't take long for the more spatially aware humans to do some amazing things with them, but the payload isn't large and generally has to be devoted to a decent camera and battery if you decide to fly beyond line of sight, say around the corner of a building. If the operator had used a camera he/she wouldn't be able to carry enough explosive and shrapnel to kill a cat. In a human filled setting with lots of mobiles etc such as this one considerable payload is going to have to be devoted to a powerful communications system that won't get cut out by others utilising the same bandwidth. Yeah in all likelihood these idjits spent a lot more on their devices than I did but money cannot buy more favour with the arbitrators of Newton's laws. In the end the small efficiencies wouldn't translate to a much bigger or more accurate bomb.
On the other hand if as seems more likely the cameras were ditched in favour of a larger charge of C4 and ball bearings or whatever and the operator was controlling the device from a nearby apartment building or some such, accuracy isn't gonna be much - and the bandwidth issues won't go away either. This is what appears to have happened judging by eyewitness reports of the things flying into walls then exploding. Thank goodness it seems like no one got badly injured.

This is exactly what I mean about the incompetence of these f**ks when people worry about amerika's alphabet 'intelligence' (haha what a joke) agencies organising incredibly complex operations to take over the world.
These are types who would struggle to run a piss up at a pub - or a brothel on a troopship as an older and less socially aware comrade used to say.

Already western media is frantically trying to turn this around in the usual weird and unpersuasive manner that they have. On the one hand they are trying to insinuate that maybe the attack didn't happen- providing certainty that it did, and on the other saying that the attack will be used to 'oppress' members of the rebellion - yeah like amerikan and englander 'security' thugs wouldn't emulate a bull in a china shop if something like that went off in their bailiwick? The Venezuelan police have already arrested the perps who appear to have been stupid enough to emulate their new supreme leader, agent orange, and tweeted bulldust when they should have been covering their arses.

Venezuela will get back up and soon, as the cost of keeping oil prices down to corrupt their and Iran's economies has been much greater for Saudi who just cannot afford to hold out any longer. Saudis don't have anything to unite behind and feel patriotic towards - unlike the other two nation states.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 5, 2018 7:55:59 PM | 22

Curious about the genocide in Yemen?

From TRNN:

https://therealnews.com/stories/the-saudi-us-agenda-behind-destroying-yemen-pt-1-2

Posted by: ben | Aug 5, 2018 8:06:05 PM | 23

vk@5 The amateurish nature of the terrorist attack basically excludes the CIA on this plot (either that, or the CIA's position in Venezuela is so precarious that this was all it could do with the resourses and assets in hands).

Yup. The pros would use shrapnel and drop from above, not try to make a kamikaze attack from the couch.

I don't see how this rules out the CIA.

Posted by: Stumpy | Aug 5, 2018 8:25:10 PM | 24

Debs @23--

The account I read at Fort-Russ says the quadracopters were spotted from the stage and security snipers shot them down after the first exploded:

"It was Cilia [Maduro's wife], a lawyer, devoted resistor herself and a former head of Venezuela’s National Assembly, who noticed the anomaly above. Then Maduro picked up on it. Bolivarian snipers, noticing the increasing anxiety, caught the devices in their crosshairs and shot the drones down before they could get any closer. The drones exploded, revealing their “suicide” nature. Massive panic ensued. The ceremony was finished at this stage and scores of spectators and national guardsmen poured away from the crime scene in the chaos."

I'd provide the url, but Fort-Russ is often blocked. There are also several videos available. I expect a copy-cat usage here in USA soon at a higher value target than Trump--Bolton and Pompeo have large crosshairs painted on them at all times.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 8:38:55 PM | 25

Very large anti-Israel protests within Palestine over the weekend, news of which was blacked-out most everywhere. I saw other pics today but was unable to relocate them to show the gravity of these protests--they're very large--tens of thousands. Pro Zion law has acted to destabilize Palestine and sparked a Movement that's unlikely to go away and quit until the law's abrogated, and may not stop at that point. Palestine's seriously rent by several factions, but it appears that the majority don't want to live within an Outlaw Nation. Zionism's ultra-racist program will be its downfall. Palestine's Jews and their allies must rise to the occasion, take control of the government and begin to cleanse their nation of the Zionist Stain if they ever want to live within a normal, moderately prosperous nation.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 9:21:32 PM | 26

@ 27: Thanks for the link. As usual, haven't heard a peep in the MSM about the ongoing protests..

Posted by: ben | Aug 5, 2018 9:29:01 PM | 27

Not being reported by BigLie Media: Reduced tensions with DPRK allows Japan to retire anti-missile batteries that don't work anyway.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 3:15:23 PM | 12

Not retired, but moved back to base. They were deployed on an operational base in a couple of Sea of Japan facing prefectures. Now they’re moved back into storage space. Those are Patriot missiles, FWIW.

More interesting is that the SDF and the MoD are having second thoughts about buying the land-based AEGIS system (something the US army would really love to have in Japan). Pricing issues, systematic failures, delayed delivery…

Posted by: Philippe | Aug 5, 2018 9:29:59 PM | 28

Canada in trouble again. There goes the multi-billion dollar arms contract....


"Saudi Arabia has said it is freezing all new trade and investment with Canada over its "interference" in the Gulf Kingdom's internal affairs.

In a series of tweets, the Saudi foreign ministry said it was expelling the Canadian ambassador and recalling its own envoy in Canada.

The move comes after Canada said it was "gravely concerned" about the arrest of several human rights activists."


https://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-45079682

Posted by: dh | Aug 5, 2018 10:05:49 PM | 29

VK @ 5:

At least the assassination attempt is a little more sophisticated than the 638 attempts made by the CIA on Fidel Castro's life.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SymFxZHqd1A

Posted by: Jen | Aug 5, 2018 10:06:24 PM | 30

Sorry for the repost on Yemen..Oops!

Posted by: ben | Aug 5, 2018 10:54:40 PM | 31

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 8:38:55 PM | 26
Hmm maybe but if so they won't get close unless the secret service wants them to. These are not very quiet devices, but more importantly even if they are or crowd noise overwhelms their sound as I understand it, it is SOP for all not prez type communications to be jammed out wherever the so-called 'leader of the free world' is.
As of today any bossfella or wannabe bossfella is going to be in the market for the sort of jammers with which the US navy grossly inconveniences normal humans wherever they 'visit'. IR and R/F jams will become a de rigeur sign of status for petty tyrants the world over, altho I imagine the biggest arseholes have had them a long time.
The eyewitness reports I read didn't mention sniping just that at least two crashed into the sides of buildings then exploded, but of course one side will say the security took em out while the other will try to emphasise it was down to luck. Whatever it was I still maintain my original position that the payload on a quadcopter prevents both accuracy and lethality unless the operator has a clear line of sight all the way to the target in which case a sniper would be a better bet and the operator is going to stick out like dogs balls to any remotely effective security cordon.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 5, 2018 11:36:36 PM | 32

"China Willing to Assist Syrian Army in Idlib Offensive – Ambassador to Syria"

From Information Clearing House:

http://www.informationclearinghouse.info/49974.htm

Posted by: ben | Aug 6, 2018 12:01:17 AM | 33

@dh 29

" gravely concerned" about activists ?

what about the biggest humanitarian crisis just a little south ?

this genocide that you have actively participated(fueling planes, arms, logistics, intelligence,training,media cover up ) btw ?

Ah but we are talking about canada, build on True American's genocide.
So of course you dont have any problem with THAT.

Posted by: occidentosis | Aug 6, 2018 12:36:50 AM | 34

WTF is going on? I didn't swear once in that last post yet it still disappears losing all relevance and timeliness.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 6, 2018 1:14:22 AM | 35

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 5, 2018 8:38:55 PM | 26

Hmm maybe but if so they won't get close unless the secret service wants them to. These are not very quiet devices, but more importantly even if they are or crowd noise overwhelms their sound as I understand it, it is SOP for all not prez type communications to be jammed out wherever the so-called 'leader of the free world' is.
As of today any bossfella or wannabe bossfella is going to be in the market for the sort of jammers with which the US navy grossly inconveniences normal humans wherever they 'visit'. IR and R/F jams will become a de rigeur sign of status for petty tyrants the world over, altho I imagine the biggest arseholes have had them a long time.
The eyewitness reports I read didn't mention sniping just that at least two crashed into the sides of buildings then exploded, but of course one side will say the security took em out while the other will try to emphasise it was down to luck. Whatever it was I still maintain my original position that the payload on a quadcopter prevents both accuracy and lethality unless the operator has a clear line of sight all the way to the target in which case a sniper would be a better bet and the operator is going to stick out like dogs balls to any remotely effective security cordon.

Posted by: debsisdead | Aug 6, 2018 1:24:54 AM | 36

Today is August 6, the 73rd year since the U.S. atomic bomed Hiroshima and on the 9th Nagasaki.
Two days of infamy...
Justice has left the planet...

Posted by: V | Aug 6, 2018 1:49:15 AM | 37

...bombed...

Posted by: V | Aug 6, 2018 1:49:51 AM | 38

On July 30, b asked: "Which country will be its next target?" My answer was Venezuela, for a number of reasons. It seems I've hit the nail on the head — entirely by accident, of course. Now the MSM is claiming that the attack did not happen. They use words like "alleged" and "apparent" in the headlines, and they also "cite" anonymous sources who say it was an ordinary gas explosion in an apartment (supposedly, a cooking gas cylinder explosion). Unfortunately for them, a video has just emerged showing that it was, indeed, an explosive-carrying drone: VIDEO claimed to show mid-air explosion of drone used in attack on Maduro (YouTube).

Posted by: S | Aug 6, 2018 1:57:01 AM | 39

Well, this is certainly good news and a bit surprising;
https://sputniknews.com/business/201808061066987136-eu-block-iran-sanctions/

Posted by: V | Aug 6, 2018 6:48:28 AM | 40

@ Piotr Berman | Aug 5, 2018 3:32:38 PM | 14

During the Cold War, the USA wasn't the "sole superpower": it divided the globe with the USSR. That's the unique feature of the Cold War: bipolarity. It was in this period that the USA made the most vicious and numerous regime changes in Latin America and elsewhere.

The USA only became the sole superpower in 1992.

So, the fact that the USA is "retreating" (consolidating position) is a novelty in relation to the new historical period inaugurated in 1992. Solitary superpowers don't need to consolidate position for the simple fact the concept of "sphere of influence" doesn't apply to them: the whole world is their "sphere of influence".

Posted by: vk | Aug 6, 2018 7:20:47 AM | 41

Poisoning the populace on the industrial scale: https://www.globalresearch.ca/toxic-silence-public-officials-monsanto-and-the-media/5649611
"In 2016, Dr Rosemary Mason wrote an open letter to journalists at The Guardian newspaper in the UK outlining how the media is failing the public by not properly reporting on the harmful chemicals being applied to crops...
She has now sent a new open letter: "The British Government and Monsanto should stand accused of crimes against humanity":
http://rinf.com/alt-news/wp-content/uploads/2018/08/The-British-Government-stands-accused-of-crimes-against-humanity-ecocide.pdf
The letter has been sent to the editors-in-chief of The Times, The Sunday Times, The Telegraph, The Financial Times, The Wall Street Journal, the London Evening Standard and The Independent as well as the director general of the BBC and its senior executives, Channel 4 News (UK), and a number of prominent UK government agencies and ministers."

This is not a foggy story about the foreign Skripals -- this is a story of the government-approved massive poisoning of the UK population

Posted by: Anya | Aug 6, 2018 8:48:42 AM | 42

I see the englander fishwraps are claiming the englanders have enough evidence to charge coupla Russians for the alleged Salisbury nerve agent attack. They claim there is a division in whitehall between those who want to serve the request for expedition, and those who see it as "futile".
They say futile because the Russian government won't agree to it because the Russians don't since they tend to bring up boring and irrelevant issues about the mobs of crooks running away from frauds, tax evasions and murders in Russia who are currently cowering in england under the protection of the englander pols and policemen these crooks have paid off.

Somehow I doubt that is the real reason. The argument will be over "WTF we do if they do let these guys get extradited?" There's no evidence and if they go on trial the entire flimsy house of cards, that is "It's them russkies wot done it your worship" is gonna come tumbling down and all those months of deceitful propagandizing will haunt May & co for the rest of their days.

Hence the 'leak' (Hah press release more like) to the complicit englander media who are in so deep themselves they cannot afford to be publicly exposed either.

If the names which come outta scotland yuk in the next day or so are of a coupla moscow wide boys unconnected to the Russian government, the Russkies may well grant extradition just to humilate englanders, but if the cheap & easy coppers have fitted up an FSB operative or two, the Russian government will correctly decide that western media hysteria will bury the facts in an avalanche of falsehoods, lies, rumours etc so won't subject law abiding citizens to it.
No one can forget how Abdelbaset al-Megrahi was planted, verballed by a police informant, then tortured in an attempt to extract a false confession (which failed)over the Lockerbie bombing when that was plainly just a drop of payback from Iran for all those kids getting blown outta the sky when the US Navy whimsically tried to show Iranians that amerika was still in charge by blowing civilian airliner Iran Air 655 outta the sky.
No halfway responsible government would risk putting one their staff through that.

Hence the 'leaks' and within 48 hours faux outrage when the brits know that extradition requires an evidebtial hearing and they got no evidence. Doubtless they hope to get that by locking the russian up witha cild molester who is on a promise of freedom, plus invitations to the best elite pedo parties, chocka with pretty boys and girls 'in care' if only he stands up in court to say Ivan Wotevervich confessed it all to to him.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Aug 6, 2018 11:52:50 AM | 43

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It would be interesting to see if Cornell School of Ornithology and those 1,000s of Audubon bird watchers are seeing a trend. Parenthetically, I haven't seen a frog or a salamander in a coon's age, but have three coon's prowling the cat food in the neighborhood. Haven't seen but one hummingbird, two warblers, one finch and one chickadee, when the set-out pan of sunflower seeds used to be fought over by dozens of them. There used to be ravens all over the place, and herons, and geese! Just crows and gulls now in 2s and 3s.

And children! There used to be mobs of children! Now when you go to the parks, there's just mobs of pet dogs. The only children are in the barrios and Wal-Mart.

But this is anecdotal. The ascension of Trump's SCOTUS candidate will overturn RvW, then our world will flower into white again, right? WINNING! Reading The Pivot of Civilization ATM by Margaret Sanger on Gutenberg.org. As a horizontal-data dweeb, and seeing the behaviorial trend among the students I teach, I believe glyphosates are the last thing we need to worry about.
Another head hangs lowly
Child is slowly taken
And the violence caused such silence
Who are we mistaken
But You see it's not me,
It s not my family
In your head,in your
Head they are fighting
With their tanks, and their bombs
And their bombs, and their guns
In your head,
In your head they are cryin'
In your head
In your head
Zombie
Zombie
Zombie

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 6, 2018 11:57:22 AM | 44

Facebook, Apple Purge InfoWars for ‘Hate Speech’
https://www.breitbart.com/tech/2018/08/06/facebook-apple-purge-infowars-for-hate-speech/

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 6, 2018 12:36:30 PM | 45

the latest propaganda from the guardian
https://www.theguardian.com/uk-news/2018/aug/06/uk-poised-to-ask-russia-to-extradite-salisbury-attack-suspects

comments aren't allowed, shocking i know.

Posted by: pretzelattack | Aug 6, 2018 12:40:03 PM | 46

No closure....

fukus's Mali mayhem,


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_nzyZx0gPng

Here's the transcript
http://axisoflogic.com/artman/publish/Article_65346.shtml

This man got balls !
none of the 5lies leaders are fit to tie his
shoelaces !

Posted by: denk | Aug 6, 2018 12:42:17 PM | 47

Here's a documentary you might like, about the successful - and perhaps even world-leading - investment model that Russia developed to grow its economy and national infrastructure in a win-win and sustainable way.

It's under 27 minutes, with flawless editing and very interesting as it portrays many aspects of productive Russia - and actually, Russia's ability to get along with multiple countries:

Nationalized Finance: Russian Direct Investment Fund Focuses on Helping Country Expand and Grow

Russia created the Russian Direct Investment Fund (RDIF), a government fund. I don't know if it was Putin's idea but it was certainly with his specific blessing. It invests in only the highest quality Russian ventures, approving maybe a dozen out of thousands at each turn. For every 1 ruble it invests, it attracts 9 rubles from foreign sovereign and private investment funds. For every 1 ruble it invests, it receives 3 rubles in return over the following 5-7 years.

Because it partners with foreign and private investment, the government process is kept "honest" and held to profitability. Because it's Russian, it can ease foreign investment though all the hurdles that face every overseas investment. Because it invests in Russian enterprises, the economy grows and jobs and wealth are created. It is a great success.

Other countries are working with similar models. No country has achieved the partnerships with foreign countries the way that Russia has, and made cooperation work so well. As one investor from the Gulf States says, it was never so easy to invest overseas, ever.

So maybe there's great wisdom behind all that peacemaking and diplomacy that Russia engages in. She is building her own country up, directly from the peace dividend that her soldiers and her diplomats help to create. No wonder she can reduce her defense budget.

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 6, 2018 8:18:14 PM | 48

Decided Alastair Crooke's latest wasn't suited for either new thread, so I posted link here. I like it since it discusses how some have looked at Trump's 2016 campaign speeches to try and discern what policy direction he's likely to take. While that makes sense, nothing Trump does is sensible; so, why bother looking back when observing his actions in concert with his words seems far more logical. Like me, Crooke is sympathetic to those bewildered and puzzled as he tries to explain what he sees happening.

Unfortunately, Crooke's conclusion provides no comfort. Although he doesn't admit as much, he agrees with me that the fundamental policy of seeking Full Spectrum Dominance is still a go with Trump thanks to his maneuvers to-date:

"The Art of the Deal has effectively been neocon-ised into a tool for enlarging American power, rather than for adjusting the global economic order in any way acceptable to the Russia-China axis – and there is nothing of ‘mutual economic advantage’ to be heard of, or seen, these days."

These actions have only reinforced Russian, Chinese, Iranian, and now EU efforts to defeat the fundamental policy goal. Why attempt any accommodation with the Outlaw US Empire given the following list:

"The unilateral US exit from an international agreement without cause; disregard for international law; the unilateral insistence to lay siege to the Iranian economy; disrespect for the sovereignty of another state; interference in the domestic affairs of another state (by fostering MEK dissidence inside Iran); the hegemonic bullying of other states (to enforce secondary sanctions on others), and disdain for mutual economic advantage. Trump has crossed every boundary. Why would they trust him? The ‘sea is always the sea’, and, it seems, America is always – well – America. It doesn’t change."

Such behavior leads Crooke to this conclusion, which I too share:

"This will not change – until the US passes through some catharsis, be it financial or political, sufficient to purge this utopian vision of America’s unique mission to redeem the world – in its own image. Until then, we will continue in our global order of disorder – and in grave danger."

For the "vision" to melt as with the Wicked Witch, the .01% Deep State must be dismantled and its acolytes at all levels of government and media purged in a process that's unlikely to be peaceful--how it occurs depends on the nature of the catharsis. And as if it wasn't getting ugly under Obama, the domestic situation is certainly getting uglier under Trump and the GOP-controlled Congress. At some point the Darkness will finally fall so the New Dawn may finally emerge. It's the trial getting there that will be the real test for humanity.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6, 2018 8:37:11 PM | 49

Viktoria Skripal is reported to be campaigning for election in regional government elections in the Yaroslavl area:
http://www.itv.com/news/2018-07-03/niece-of-poisoned-ex-spy-sergei-skripal-running-for-office-in-russia/

There's interesting news now at Rob Slane's The Blogmire about the Skripals. Viktoria spoke with Julia again in early July and in late July on the phone. The two conversations (the first in which J accused V of blabbing to the Russian press and the second in which J retracted her accusation and asked V for forgiveness) suggest that Julia has been kept in the dark about what happened to her and her father until very recently when Julia got access to the Internet (hmm-hmm-hmm!) and only then realised the extent of the international attention surrounding them both.

https://www.theblogmire.com/if-yulia-skripal-now-understands-everything-what-did-they-tell-her-before/

The Skripals are now effectively political prisoners.

High time for the Russian embassy in London to demand access to the Skripals with a habeas corpus writ from the High Court.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 6, 2018 9:16:44 PM | 50

Karlof1 @ 50: I don't think there is any point trying to make sense of President Trump's policies. The moment anyone thinks there is a direction to them is the moment that person will try to predict what will happen next. Had Alistair Crooke discerned something, he would have said so and some operator within the Deep State will see his analysis, accept it and act on it.

If Trump has an agenda, he is better off keeping it to himself. Best to keep his enemies off balance and guessing, and wasting their time and energy doing so.

Posted by: Jen | Aug 6, 2018 9:23:34 PM | 51

@49 The Russia Direct Investment Fund is an exciting economic concept already underway.

You're right; the video production is excellent. A really cool smooth high-quality look.

Everyone in it looks like a post Soviet superman, industrializing that gigantic country.

I'm all in for this kind of State-sponsored dirigistic economic programming. So, hooray!

Posted by: Guerrero | Aug 6, 2018 9:29:11 PM | 52

Jen @52--

Over the decades of watching what the Outlaw US Empire does, I look for consistencies and changes. As much as Trump tries to tout himself as the Non-Obama, he's following Obama's policies albeit with a Trumpian twist. This Garrie article builds on a Chinese scholar's compare/contrast analysis that agrees with Crooke's and my contention that the Fundamental Imperial Policy continues unabated:

"However, the ongoing diplomatic strategies and logic of the US government are still a continuation of the former administration’s policies. The difference is that the current policies have shaken off the banner of the so-called liberalism, and become simpler and cruder.

"The “illiberal hegemony” pursued by Trump still stressed the importance of hegemony, just like what Obama addressed at the United States Military Academy, also known as West Point, in 2014, “America must always lead on the world stage.”"

Since the policy continues, it's easier to predict what the future holds. What we're now seeing from EU is they appear to have reached this same conclusion and are acting accordingly by pushing back. There's 27 months to go until the 2020 POTUS election. They will reveal a wilder circus than 2016 as upheaval within the Empire is escalating but has a long way to go until it crests.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 6, 2018 10:20:29 PM | 53

I found this interesting

https://www.globalresearch.ca/the-satanic-nature-of-the-atomic-bombings-of-hiroshima-and-nagasaki/5649684

"He’s straight out of a Twain short story. He’s Vaudeville. He’s Melville’s confidence man. He’s us. Did it ever occur to those who are fixated on him that if those who own and run the country wanted him gone, he’d be gone in an instant? He can tweet and tweet idiotically, endlessly send out messages that he will contradict the next day, but as long as he protects the super-rich, accepts Israel’s control of him, and allows the CIA-military-industrial complex to do its world-wide killing and looting of the treasury, he will be allowed to entertain and excite the public – to get them worked up in a lather in pseudo-debates. And to make this more entertaining, he will be opposed by the “sane” Democratic opposition, whose intentions are as benign as an assassin’s smile.

Look back as far as you can to past U.S. presidents, the figureheads who “act under orders” (whose orders?), as did Ahab in his lust to kill the “evil” great white whale, and what do you see? You see servile killers in the grip of a sinister power. You see hyenas with polished faces. You see pasteboard masks"

Posted by: Pft | Aug 6, 2018 10:46:03 PM | 54

no closure....

Bloodbath in Mali,
Russians and Chinese top rail executives slain by terrorists in hotal attack.

The murkkans jsoc have been 'fighting terrorism' in Mali , amongst others, since 2001 under the bogus pretext of 911.

On the day of attack, a big group of murkkans and their Indian buddies were in the hotel, yet the jihadists who had supposedly been bombed and chased by the murkkans since 2001, seem uninterested in this big fat juicy target, but zeroed in on a group of Chinese rail executives and their Russian counterparts instead. !

Do I smell a rat ??

http://www.indymedia.org.nz/reposts/9906

Posted by: denk | Aug 7, 2018 12:18:05 AM | 55

@ Grieved with the link to the Russia Direct Investment Fund video

Thanks for that. It looks good in the video but the devil is in the details. It is the decision making process about what gets funded that is not clear but seems to involve both government and private actors.

It sounds like there is a better balance of "profit" versus "social benefit" than in the Western world of God of Mammon investment values that gave us Fukushima and Forever War directions.

It reminds me of a bumper sticker that was popular in my youth:

What if Education got all the money it wanted and the Military had to resort to bake sales to support their wars?

One of the next big steps for our species is to drive a stake in the sand about what basic human rights and responsibilities are across all nations and along with that comes clearer delineation of socialistic and profit based sectors of the overall economy......are those roads that the Italian company is going to manage going to profit from doing so?....most roads in America are still socialistic.

Posted by: psychohistorian | Aug 7, 2018 12:41:59 AM | 56

test

Posted by: denk | Aug 7, 2018 1:00:09 AM | 57

Grieved@49, Guerrero

Dependency on private and foreign investors is part of the neoliberal globalists playbook. If Russia central bank was not controlled by the Globalists-BIS/IMF they would simply buy low interest bonds from the government and fix the exchange rate like China

RDIF is not a good thing IMO, although perhaps it does some good given the Globalists control of the CBR and perhaps Putin himself

Posted by: Pft | Aug 7, 2018 1:01:02 AM | 58

Have you seen this b?
It is absolutely diabolical.
And as the Serbs always claimed.
Greater Albania
Greater Islamic Albania.
Greater Islamic Albania under NATO occupation and protection.
And taking more of Serbia and Macedonia with USA backing....
Energy again? and to keep Russia out.
I would love to read your view.
https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2018-08-06/nato-set-its-first-air-base-western-balkans#comment-12142392

Posted by: Emily | Aug 7, 2018 8:13:05 AM | 59

As ZH reports, Twitter just suspended a bunch of prominent libertarian/anti-war accounts, right after Alex Jones got banned from pretty much everywhere. Got to remove the complainers before war with Iran.

Link.

Posted by: Timothy Hagios | Aug 7, 2018 8:51:40 AM | 60

Israel ‘welcomes’ murder of Syrian scientist – but denies any involvement in assassination
https://www.rt.com/news/435335-mossad-israel-syria-assassination/

Way to go for Russia to work with Israel, as I said, this is what concessions lead to.

Posted by: Zanon | Aug 7, 2018 11:48:12 AM | 61

denk 56

no closure

curiouser and curiouser....

Why do Pak Talibans, TTP, supposedly the target of murkkan drone executions, slaughtered Chinese tourists to avenge their comrades deaths ????

https://tribune.com.pk/story/567250/ttp-claims-responsibility-for-killing-tourists-in-gilgit-baltistan/

........................
bush said Gitmo inmates were the most dangerous terrorists around.

So why did he release 'fiercely anti murkkan' TTP chieftan Mehsud from GItmo, even when buddy Howard's plea to pardon Aussie TTP David Hicks was snubbed ?

Many people were scratching their heads over that release during 2013.

And........

Why was Mehsud first op upon release ,
to kidnap Chinese engineers working on the Gawdar proj ???

.http://advocateyousuf.blogspot.com/2007/07/sino-american-turf-battle-in-pakistan.html

Ian Fleming's fundamental law of probability applies.

Posted by: denk | Aug 7, 2018 1:53:50 PM | 62

@50 karlof1

That's an excellent piece from Alastair Crooke. I begin to think it doesn't much matter what Trump may be, or may once have been, trying to achieve, because his actions have now shaped his path forward. I take this from Crooke's crucial point about Trump's pivotal shift that threw away the chance to form a G3 power alliance between the US, China and Russia, namely his decision to pull out of the JCPOA, with all the consequences that had to follow:

With passing time, it is possible that Trump may reminisce and conclude that Russell-Mead had been right – that this particular decision, indeed, was pivotal in his Presidency; that this decision effectively foreclosed on any grand bargain, struck with Russia or China. And that, at that precise moment, he lost the option because of Netanyahu’s herding of the White House into confrontation with Iran. Of course, the sedition being hatched by the politicized intelligence services of the UK and the US attenuated Trump’s political room for manoeuver, but this was never a factor, per se, for Russia and China not to contemplate a grand bargain with Trump. Iran is, however.

It's worth a re-link: The G3 Global Order is a ‘Pipe-Dream’ — until US has its Leadership Mission Catharsis

Posted by: Grieved | Aug 7, 2018 3:02:48 PM | 63

Micheal Hudson, genuine economist and geopolitical thinker, has gone autobiographical, and he has quite a story to tell! A short excerpt from the beginning:

"... I wrote my dissertation on Erasmus Peshine Smith, who wrote the Manual of Political Economy that became the Republican Party doctrine in 1853. I decided to write about the American
protectionists with Prof. Bry and had no problem at all getting the PhD until I had my orals. And again, NYU didn’t have anyone teaching money and banking on a full-time basis at Washington Square which is the center of NYU. So I thought there’s a money and banking professor uptown, Walter Haines, who wrote a textbook. He must know about banking. I passed all the orals of all the professors I’d studied with, economic history, third world development, but the money and banking man said I knew nothing about banking, that my idea of how banking worked was not at all what was in the textbooks and I had to retake the orals after reading about a fictitious world. So I became aware of the fact that academic economics is very fictitious. It has nothing to do about the real world. It was really a parallel universe theory, to say that if the world worked this way, then the existing distribution of income would be fair, everybody would get what they deserve, there’s no income that’s unearned, everything is fair, and you have to accept the world the way it is. And I never accepted the way the world as it was, because of the way I grew up." [My emphasis]

My bolded sentences join Hudson's conclusion to send a powerful message about one of the key aspects of our BigLie existence. The Outlaw US Empire's Anti-Communist Crusade takes on additional meaning when one considers the world in which Hudson grew up. So, I hope barflies can find the time to read Hudson's rather abridged autobio.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7, 2018 3:09:09 PM | 64

Grieved @64--

I question Crooke's assertion that Trump sought to form a global triumvirate with China and Russia as he was very anti-China during the campaign while attacking the unfree trade deal meant to control EU. Indeed, Trump's meager agenda was mostly anti-Obama, which also meant anti-Clinton, but pro-Full Spectrum Dominance. To my knowledge, Trump has never explained why JCPOA was a "bad deal" for the Empire; amongst his base, anything Obama did is ipso-facto bad. As for Sun Chenghao's essay, I give it a C+ as several crucial mistakes are made regrading Trump's domestic policy and the overall direction of US Imperial policy; although on the important point, Trump's Imperial policies follows along Obama's. I wonder what group Garrie angered that resulted in his site getting hacked. Thanks for posting that vid; I gave it a peek and hope to find the time to watch it fully.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 7, 2018 3:38:50 PM | 65

According to Reuters Atlantic Council is now the censor for facebook.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-facebook-cyber/u-s-think-tanks-tiny-lab-helps-facebook-battle-fake-social-media-idUSKBN1KS22N
...The Atlantic Council's Digital Forensic Research Lab is based in a 12-foot-by-12-foot office in the Washington, D.C., headquarters of the nearly 60-year-old Council www.atlanticcouncil.org, a think tank devoted to studying serious and at times obscure international issues....

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Aug 7, 2018 5:10:32 PM | 66

@67 That will be a Graham Brookie and Ben Nimmo project. Keen followers of digital forensics may remember Mr. Nimmo...

https://steemit.com/news/@clarityofsignal/oh-those-embarrassing-moments-atlantic-council-s-ben-nimmo-outs-russian-bot-that-turns-out-to-simply-be-a-uk-citizen-tired-of-uk

Posted by: dh | Aug 7, 2018 5:42:41 PM | 67

The Silence of the Whores 794
25 Jul, 2018 in Uncategorized by craig murray

The mainstream media are making almost no effort today to fit Charlie Rowley’s account of his poisoning into the already ludicrous conspiracy theory being peddled by the government and intelligence agencies.

ITV News gamely inserted the phrase “poisoned by a Russian nerve agent” into their exclusive interview with Charlie Rowley, an interview in which they managed to ask no penetrating questions whatsoever, and of which they only broadcast heavily edited parts. Their own website contains this comment by their journalist Rupert Evelyn:

He said it was unopened, the box it was in was sealed, and that they had to use a knife in order to cut through it.

...

But the information about opening the packet with a knife is not in the linked interview. What Rowley does say in the interview is that the box was still sealed in its cellophane. Presumably it was the cellophane he slit open with a knife.
------------------------
I overlooked that aspect of Novichok affair. It is hard to square it with a purposeful action of ANY major organization, be it British, Russian or Uranian (there was a twitter to end Uranian meddling in Iran, some squabble between Uranocrats and Plutocrats, I presume).

To me, it fits best to "mad scientist" theory, some anti-social type that worked in Porton Down (we will leave the mystery how such deviant could be attracted to a patriotic wholesome work place like the national poison lab). Contaminating a perfume bottle, restoring the packaging and dropping it for someone to pick it up and die. It was done before with Tylenol (the bottle were placed back on pharmacy racks). But why, for Jove sake, British police did not disclose the bottle and its package to the public? Natural, I guess. If the "attack" was the handiwork of cunning Hyperborean barbarians, resistance is futile, next time it can be beer, some favorite English snack or frills for little girls. Resistance is futile.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Aug 7, 2018 8:07:53 PM | 68

Peter AU 1 @ 67:

"U.S. think tank's tiny lab ..."

Would that be Eliot Higgins' minuscule brain?

http://www.atlanticcouncil.org/about/experts/list/eliot-higgins

Posted by: Jen | Aug 7, 2018 9:23:41 PM | 69

63

no closure.

Hundres of Chinese workers slain in Apak by TTP.

Why do Apak folks call Afghan TTP the good talibans [who fight only the murkkans] and Pak TTP the bad talibans [who seem more interested in killing Pak soldiers and Chinese workers/tourists ??]

Why do Gitmo inmates killed Chinese upon their release ?

Can 'terrarists' be re-programmed ?

Turns out that Gitmo had just such a facility to turn 'terrarists' into double agents !

+Did the CIA Give Birth to The Pak TTP at ‘Penny Lane’?

On November 25, The Associated Press released a news report which strengthens the beliefs held by many security analyts, that the Tehreek-e-Taliban Pakistan or ‘TTP’ for short, a terrorist organization which repeatedly claims ties to the Afghan Taliban, is a fake group bred by the American intelligence community.

According to the report, the CIA had a secret facility (until 2006) near the main Guantanamo Bay prison, dubbed “Penny Lane“, where captured jihadists and fighters from Afghanistan were turned into double agents. This fundamentally required that those who agreed in being American spies would guarantee full cooperation in “killing terrorists” (or, in other words, targeting elements who are eyesore for the US).+

Such as Chinese engineers/workers laboring in the BRI projects in Pakistan ?

http://tribune-intl.com/did-the-cia-give-birth-to-the-ttp-at-penny-lane/

P.S.
dont forget RAW,
iN ME its fukusIsrael
In rest of world especially South Asia its fukusIndia.

Posted by: denk | Aug 7, 2018 11:53:38 PM | 70

71

+According to the report, the CIA had a secret facility (until 2006)+

meaning CIA officially stopped re-branding terrarists, ?

like they officially stopped Tibet destabilisation, officially stopped bio weapon research in the 70's ?

hhhhhh

Posted by: denk | Aug 8, 2018 12:17:03 AM | 71

no closure

Afghan massacre re-visited.

+Though Afghan officials blamed the attack on the remnants of fundamentalist Taliban movement, al-Qaeda and Islamic party led by Gulbudin Hakmatary, they failed to offer any proof for the accusation. +

classic fukus M.O.

+Taliban immediately rejected the accusation as baseless, saying their fighters have nothing to do with the Chinese workers.

"Taliban are not involved in the murdering of Chinese workers as they were not working for the American goals or UN," Mullah Abdul Latif Hakimi said.+

Afpak folks call the Afghan militants good talibans cuz they only target the invaders., whereas Pak TTP are bad talibans cuz they seem more interested in killing Chinese , the designated enemy of the great satan.
Go figure.

+Remnants of the ousted Taliban regime have accepted responsibility for many incidents, saying they would target any individual or agency working for the interest of Americans in the post-Taliban central Asian state.+

Not shy to take responsibility for their actions,
real warriors....unlike the 5lies.

+The Taliban militants openly claimed responsibility for the killing of UN Refugees Agency (UNHCR) staff, the French lady Bettina Goislard in last November in Ghazni and later on in February for the shooting down of US firm Louis Berger's chopper in Kandahar.+

UNHCR is a known stooge of fukus, not surprising that its infiltrated with intel agents.


+Earlier this month the fundamentalist cell accepted responsibility for assassinating five staffs of the Dutch relief agency Medicines sans frontiers (MSF) in the northwest Badghis province.+

Ditto the MSF, RSF.
All known fukus fronts.

+The militias' spokesman Latif Hakimi labeled the aid agency MSFas a protege of the US, saying it was punished for its service of US interest in Afghanistan. But on the gruesome murder of Chinese workers, he said the incident "should not have happened."

Hekmatyar, leader of the outlawed radical Islamic party Hizb-e-Islami also refuted his loyalists' involvement in the attack by saying that his men would only target the Americans and Britons. +

make sense.


+We cannot rule out the involvement of rival construction companies working in the country," Governor of Kunduz Mohammad Omar said ...

"Chinese workers become the victims of economic rivalry among various companies as many foreign firms including Turkish and US ones try to monopolize rebuilding projects in Afghanistan," said an analyst on condition of anonymity.+

so its either the murkkans or the turks.
even if its the turks they'd be operating under murkkan supervision/green light.

CIA keep a tight grip over there.


http://www.chinadaily.com.cn/english/doc/2004-06/21/content_341247.htm

Posted by: denk | Aug 8, 2018 1:41:21 PM | 72

Pompeo's CIA State Department has just declared Russia guilty of poisoning Skriplals and will impose sanctions. My comment at link: Gee, since when did the US Department of State become a adjudicator of law? It has zero remit to issue any such judgement. Indeed, it's entire pronouncement is Unconstitutional. But since the man in charge is a War Criminal, legalities aren't to be expected. I wonder how BigLie Media will explain it.

Lying States of America. I can't begin to describe how utterly ashamed I am to be a citizen of the Outlaw US Empire. I'd leave if only the woman I deeply love would leave too, but her devotion to family won't allow her, which I respect. So, I'm a prisoner of love it would seem.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 8, 2018 5:56:35 PM | 73

73

NO CLOSURE.

=+The militias' spokesman Latif Hakimi labeled the aid agency MSFas a protege of the US, saying it was punished for its service of US interest in Afghanistan. But on the gruesome murder of Chinese workers, he said the incident "should not have happened."

Hekmatyar, leader of the outlawed radical Islamic party Hizb-e-Islami also refuted his loyalists' involvement in the attack by saying that his men would only target the Americans and Britons. =

Inquiring mind wantS to know ,
why international terrorists have been targeting
Chinese nationals instead of fukus ever since 911.

Exhibit A

http://www.moonofalabama.org/2012/09/open-thread-2012-23.html#c6a00d8341c640e53ef017d3c1c26ea970c

tip of an iceberg.
Tons of info in the archive.

MOA would be perfect if we can search beyond the first page.

Posted by: denk | Aug 9, 2018 1:04:56 AM | 74

Karlof1@78

They are in charge of propaganda which is now permitted to be directed at Americans.

Posted by: Pft | Aug 9, 2018 2:34:57 AM | 75

Pft @76--

Yeah, Through the Looking Glass quite plain as day.

Posted by: karlof1 | Aug 9, 2018 10:45:57 AM | 76

70

Desk today is a special day! Trump has again increased the MIC Pentagon budget, signing authorization to build thirteen battleships,one for each of the original colonies. One will be christened the USS Might Don in tribute.

Wait, it gets better! Boeing has passed the torch to Lockheed Martin to build Reagan's Hypersonic Space Plane, which Boeing has been grifting on for 34 years and $10sBs with only a 7-second drone flight they claimed reached Mach 5, so about $5B per second of flight.

The US media reports LMs' $1B award as though this is the first time anyone got the contract! It's been running for 34 years! No accountability, no audit, and most of all, no back story, in the Salt and Bright Sunshine Perpetual Now of Team Blue USA. MAGA, and may God forgive them.

Posted by: Chipnik | Aug 14, 2018 10:56:12 PM | 77

Nuclear bombs ARE FAKE. They don't work

Posted by: Ari.asulin | Aug 30, 2018 7:24:38 PM | 78

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