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March 07, 2018

No, Russians Do Not Hack The FCC's Public Comments

A member of the Federal Communications Commission, Jessica Rosenworcel, wrote an op-ed for the Washington Post.


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It is unlikely that the headline was chosen by the author of the op-ed. The editors of the Washington Post opinion page wrote it. I also doubt that she would have chosen a picture of the FCC head to decorate her piece.

For the record: The headline is false.

The op-ed is about a request for comments the Federal Communications Commission issued last year in preparation of its net-neutrality decision. Anyone, and anything, could comment multiple times. Various lobbying firms, political action groups and hacks abused the public comment system to send copy-paste comments via single-use email accounts or even without giving any email address.

But this had and has nothing to with Russia or Russians.

Here are the top graphs of the the WaPo op-ed with the "Russia-did-it" headline:

What do Sen. Jeff Merkley (D-Ore.), deceased actress Patty Duke, a 13-year-old from upstate New York and a 96-year-old veteran from Southern California have in common?

They appear to have filed comments in the net neutrality record at the Federal Communications Commission. That ought to mean they went online, submitted their names and addresses, and typed out their thoughts about Internet regulatory policy. But appearances can be deceiving. In fact, each of these individuals — along with 2 million others — had their identities stolen and used to file fake comments.

These fake comments were not the only unnerving thing in the FCC net neutrality record. In the course of its deliberations on the future of Internet openness, the agency logged about half a million comments sent from Russian email addresses. It received nearly 8 million comments from email domains associated with FakeMailGenerator.com with almost identical wording.

I have emphasized the only words in the whole op-ed that are related to Russia. They are wrong. The author of that op-ed does not understand the FCC public comment system. Public comments are made by filling out a form on the FCC website leaving ones comment, some address data and an email address. Public comments are not "send" by email. Thus the FCC did not log any comments "sent from Russian email". It logged comments made in a web form where the human (or program) making the comment provided a Russian email address as a means of contact. (It is obviously not expertise on communication issues that qualifies Jessica Rosenworcel for her position as FCC commissioner.)

At least 12-13 million of the 21.7 million comments to the FCC were fake. 8 million email addresses entered in the form the FCC had set up were generated with www.fakemailgenerator.com, half a million were entered with *.ru Internet domains.

FakeMailGenerator can use foreign domains for generating throw-away email addresses. In the screenshot below it generated an Hungarian one for me.


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If I would comment at the FCC and enter Reephy@fleckens.hu into the FCC form I would be counted as Hungarian. I would not have "send" that comment from an Hungarian email address. Nor would entering the comment make me Hungarian. Neither do *.ru email domains mean that the people (ab-)using them have anything to do with Russia.

The Pew Research Center analyzed the 21.7 million comments the FCC received:

Fully 57% of comments used temporary or duplicate email addresses, and seven popular comments accounted for 38% of all submissions

The FCC and other agencies are required by law to accept public comments. But, as the op-ed says, it is utterly useless to request such public comments on the Internet without having some authentication system in place. The FCC had some email address verification system in place, but it did not use it. As the Pew Center writes:

[T]he Center’s analysis shows that the FCC site does not appear to have utilized this email verification process on a consistent basis. According to this analysis of the data from the FCC, only 3% of the comments definitively went through this validation process. In the vast majority of cases, it is unclear whether any attempt was made to validate the email address provided.

As a result, in many cases commenters were able to use generic or bogus email addresses and still have their comments accepted by the FCC and posted online.

It is obvious that the FCC had no interest at all in receiving legitimate public comments. But the FCC at least did not blame Russia. The Washington Post editors do that when they chose a headline that has no factual basis in the piece below it. They abuse the op-ed which has the presumed authority of an FCC commissioner to reinforce their anti-Russian propaganda campaign.

C. J. Hopkins notes that the cult of authority is systematically used to make the lunatic claims of Russiagate believable.

Matt Taibbi writes that the aim of the Russiagate campaign was and is to target all dissent:

If you don't think that the endgame to all of this lunacy is a world where every America-critical movement from Black Lives Matter to Our Revolution to the Green Party is ultimately swept up in the collusion narrative along with Donald Trump and his alt-right minions, you haven't been paying attention.

That's because #Russiagate, from the start, was framed as an indictment not just of one potentially traitorous Trump, but all alternative politics in general. The story has evolved to seem less like a single focused investigation and more like the broad institutional response to a spate of shocking election results, targeting the beliefs of discontented Americans across the political spectrum.

Some commenters here lamented about my posts about the Steele dossier and or Russiagate issues. "It's enough already." But the issue is, as Taibbi points out, much bigger. In November 2016 the Washington Post pushed the ProPornOT campaign which denounced some 200 non-mainstream websites as "Russian propaganda". This website is an "primary initial" target of that campaign.

If the campaign succeeds to its full intent, Moon of Alabama will no longer be accessible.

The Russiagate nonsense has do be debunked at each and every corner to prevent its further abuse against dissent on everything else.

Posted by b on March 7, 2018 at 04:17 PM | Permalink

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"This Russiagate nonsense has do be debunked at each and every corner to prevent its further abuse against dissent on everything else."

Exactly right, b, exactly right.

Posted by: Castellio | Mar 7, 2018 4:40:37 PM | 1

I agree the topic is getting tiresome but definitely needs to be "debunked at each and every corner."

Keep up the good work b.

Posted by: foo | Mar 7, 2018 4:46:22 PM | 2

Exposing regime-trumpeted lies is holy work. Anyone who says, about it, "enough already" is unholy. This is true in science; and any religion in which it's not, is unholy, fraudulent.

Posted by: Eric Zuesse | Mar 7, 2018 4:53:41 PM | 3

thanks b.. this russiagate thing is insane... i like the counter punch article you linked to and appreciate your breaking these fcc thing apart... it might be more scary then insane actually given how many are being suckered into this stupidity..

Posted by: james | Mar 7, 2018 4:58:26 PM | 4

craig murray has a good article up today on the poisoning in the uk of the ex russian dude...

Posted by: james | Mar 7, 2018 4:59:47 PM | 5

b: "This Russiagate nonsense has do be debunked at each and every corner to prevent its further abuse against dissent on everything else."

Concur 100% Truth must be used in the constant battle against Big Lie Nation and its perverse billionaire Deep State. Bezos should be wary he now wears a bullseye on his back none of his billions can remove. I see Taibbi has finally gotten part of his head out of his ass and is finally beginning to recognize Russiagate to be the Big Lie that it is, although he hasn't yet extracted his mouth so he can tell the world it's all a Big Lie--bet Deep State affiliated Rolling Stone would fire him if he did so. That's why we're treated to his poorly written article that's almost two years too late.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7, 2018 5:04:28 PM | 6

Bravo, b! Bravissimo!!

Posted by: Pundita | Mar 7, 2018 5:13:45 PM | 7

Thanks for the larger font size, I can now read easy on the phone.

Posted by: Stephane Eybert | Mar 7, 2018 5:45:39 PM | 8

b, glad to have your expert mind cutting through the maze of crapola.

The US is under a psychotic mind massage that requires daily doses of Russophobic "medicine".

All they have is their own crippled view of reality. But it is very dangerous.
Projecting their own fears and hatreds often self-triggers into violence when schizoidal patients act out.

We see this in America with school and concert shootings.

With Russia as its enemy, the Exceptional Nation is taunting a great power with more nukes than the US has.

Every stupid American statement, thus, must be challenged. We can't be silent or laugh. It's too serious.

Posted by: Red Ryder | Mar 7, 2018 5:51:55 PM | 9

Yes, criminalizing dissent. Those who view this as partisan politics misunderstand the nature of politics today.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 7, 2018 5:58:13 PM | 10


At Putin political rally the other day VVD and 130,000 sing what sounds like all the verses of the anthem.

https://sputniknews.com/russia-elections-2018/201803031062184335-putin-rally-moscow/

Posted by: Bart Hansen | Mar 7, 2018 6:07:08 PM | 11

The silver lining here though is that it is not working. Take the case of Matteo Renzi in Sunday's general election in Italy. He had tried to copy his neoliberal colleagues in other countries and allege victimization at the hands of Russian hackers and bots, but he eventually threw in the towel because the absurdity of his claims were roundly dismissed by the public. His Democratic Party polled under 20% and he announced his resignation the other day. The neoliberals can keep peddling their Russophobia but it doesn't work at the polls.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Mar 7, 2018 6:24:14 PM | 12

Thanks for continuing to speak truth to power b

One posting at a time.........

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 7, 2018 6:26:29 PM | 13

Sorry to go off topic but the Syrian Arab Army has just marched thru East Gouta town of Al-Hammouriyah to the joy of locals who are demanding that the arseholes of Faylaq al-Rahman and Jaysh al-Islam take the next stage outta Beit Sawa.
There is a vid from Al Masdar News here and another here if you want to use facebook links as the vids are mounted on FB. Both vids show support for the SAA by the population of East Gouta.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 7, 2018 6:27:49 PM | 14

"This Russiagate nonsense has do be debunked at each and every corner to prevent its further abuse against dissent on everything else."
To me it looks like a Sisyphos work. Where I look I am confronted with cheating Russians, faking Russians, murdering Russians, they are just evil, evil, evil. I honestly doubt you can do anything against this avalanche of genuine demonizing. It's disgusting but apparently the ruling circles want to go to war. And even you won't stop them.

Posted by: Pnyx | Mar 7, 2018 7:04:56 PM | 15

Pnyx @15--

Pukes on the AIPAC-tit are easiest to push Russiagate narrative and all its myriad branches, but I rather doubt "the ruling circles" want a hot war with Russia/China and their allies as that will destroy their Casino-economy faster than most anything else--and their entire wellbeing is connected to the continuance of that Ponzi Scheme.

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 7, 2018 7:26:59 PM | 16

"It is obvious that the FCC had no interest at all in receiving legitimate public comments. ..."

hahaha. too true, B!!

quite simply, democracy and capitalism can no longer co-habitate under the same roof

Posted by: michaelj72 | Mar 7, 2018 7:56:03 PM | 17

The morons who peddle this "Russia did it" nonsense fully realize it isn't true, but it distracts the masses, so the bought and paid for idiots who now own the U$A, can dismantle any Govt. interference to their plan for global market share capture.

Posted by: ben | Mar 7, 2018 8:36:00 PM | 18

A reminder as to who the evil MF's are:

https://www.pinterest.com/pin/450078556481803620/?autologin=true

Posted by: ben | Mar 7, 2018 8:55:20 PM | 19

Taibbi is right and that makes 'progressive' embrace of the russia gate hoaxes that much more sinister. It is fundamentally pro-war, pro-establishment and pro-censorship and thus not progressive - depending on how we define progress of course...

Posted by: paul | Mar 7, 2018 9:48:04 PM | 20

karlof1 16
"...but I rather doubt "the ruling circles" want a hot war with Russia/China and their allies as that will destroy their Casino-economy faster than most anything else..."
Let's hope you're right. Brit General Sir Gordon Messenger views the "next big fight," most likely against nuclear-armed Russia, as winnable. (Times 18.03.01) And he isn't the only confident warmonger.

Posted by: Pnyx | Mar 7, 2018 10:01:37 PM | 21

Yes, we (patriotic) dissenters are "swept up in the collusion narrative" when we are labeled "Russians." This has happened to me. When I comment a lot on military sites about the ridiculous waste of money they are, I occasionally get the Russian treatment. "You're a Russian." Once it was hilarious when the "Russian" label on me was deemed authentic by one genius blogger. He said I must be Russian because I had used the word "kilometers." That proved my Russian-ness to him. . . .Currently Trump is denigrated for being a Russia-lover, but calling him a Russian is not likely (but possible).

Posted by: Don Bacon | Mar 7, 2018 10:37:47 PM | 22

Really folks, what the hell do people expect the rest of the globe to do, as the U$A's corporate empire continues to surround and attempt to strangle other nations? If other nations of the globe didn't push back, I for one, wouldn't respect them. Other nations of the world have the legitimate right to push back, and should.

Posted by: ben | Mar 7, 2018 11:53:38 PM | 23

Thank you, b, for exposing the criminal fascist (((syndicate's))) world-wide psy-ops operation.

Keep on fighting the good fight!

Posted by: LXV | Mar 8, 2018 1:41:52 AM | 24

Cold war 1.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOfQ7tgTLg
Cold war 2.0 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jSOfQ7tgTLg

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 8, 2018 2:41:52 AM | 25

After a recent voyage through the homeland, I came to the following conclusion:

If there would be a doomsday clock like chronograph for Fascism in the US, it
would stand at 3AM in the morning. The morning after, so to speak. The constant
barrage of lies and propaganda has further eroded the last remaining fragments
of common sense and critical thinking.

The best indicator for the present state of insanity is displayed by the so called
TSA. Ironically, one just needs to remove the ‘T’ to arrive at the proper identifier.
Interestingly enough, I witnessed quite a number of Russians during travel. At
one point I had to wonder when they will no longer be allowed to board any plane.
The rest of the passengers might be too fearful for takeoff.

Parallel of being indicative of Fascist propaganda, Russophobia is also a wonderful
tool to distract from the myriad of crimes against humanity perpetrated by the regime.
In the early morning hours at flight altitude - when everybody was watching the last
installment of another episode of brainless entertainment, or being asleep, a dark
aircraft was spraying a humongous pitch black chemtrail in the distance.

Or, maybe it was a Russian jet airliner running on used engine oil.

One more thing. Experiencing Germany of late generates the impression that
Fascism 2.0 is reminiscent of smooth sailing. Those who are in control since
1933 must really be swollen by pride over their achievements. Total control
of the population. No way out.

One could only wish for the Russians to do something about it. Anything.
Although, one should also have no illusions about the smooth sailing in Russia.

Posted by: nottheonly1 | Mar 8, 2018 3:35:07 AM | 26

Mike Maloney says:

He[Matteo Renzi] had tried to copy his neoliberal colleagues in other countries and allege victimization at the hands of Russian hackers and bots, but he eventually threw in the towel because the absurdity of his claims were roundly dismissed by the public

the loss of the center-left in Italy had NOTHING to do with all of this Russophobic horseshit. more like 20 years of economic stagnation and the usual bipartisan collusion cum corruption cum dysfunction. but that's a whole other discussion.

the kind of collective idiocy that we've been observing in the USA in regard to Russian interference doesn't exist here in Italy. it's garnered no traction in the land of Dante and Machiavelli, there has been very little mention of it at all. the recent Samantha Power spasm didn't even make it into the news as far as i've seen.

Posted by: john | Mar 8, 2018 5:25:28 AM | 27

Meanwhile, another fake news accuations against Russia gets debunked,

"I’m Sorry for Creating the ‘Gerasimov Doctrine’, I was the first to write about Russia’s infamous high-tech military strategy. One small problem: it doesn’t exist."
https://tinyurl.com/ybqqovkd

b said: ""This Russiagate nonsense has do be debunked at each and every corner to prevent its further abuse against dissent on everything else."
Await the WW3, these people are full of hatred, cant be stopped by now. Move out perhaps?

Posted by: Anonymous | Mar 8, 2018 7:24:30 AM | 28

"I honestly doubt you can do anything against this avalanche of genuine demonizing. It's disgusting but apparently the ruling circles want to go to war. And even you won't stop them."

Posted by: Pnyx | Mar 7, 2018 7:04:56 PM | 15

The thing that empire opponents may not get is that the reach and volume of the propaganda machine decreases almost daily in the U.S. The audiences for the WaPost, CNN, MSNBC and so on are minimal now. As a result, the propaganda machine bosses may not be able to create a temporary pro-war public consensus like they did for the 2003 Iraq war. Without that public 'agreement' to full-scale war, the U.S. doesn't want to risk much more than bombing runs and a few hundred 'secret troops' (that the official media agree not to notice).

I reposted b's latest for friends on Facebook... Because a million such tiny attacks on the (still entertainingly evidence-free) anti-Russia hysteria may actually matter. Keep a bad-ass attitude and keep spreading b's sanity with a sense of humor. The PTB are obviously afraid of b writ large.


Posted by: fairleft | Mar 8, 2018 7:26:14 AM | 29

@29 Anonymous,

Why are you hiding a link to Foreign Policy behind a tracking service? http://foreignpolicy.com/2018/03/05/im-sorry-for-creating-the-gerasimov-doctrine/

Posted by: Jonathan | Mar 8, 2018 7:28:45 AM | 30

(It is obviously not expertise on such communication issues that qualifies Jessica Rosenworcel for her position as FCC commissioner.)

lol...love that..:>) Is she related to Betsy Devos?

regards

OY

Posted by: oldenyoung | Mar 8, 2018 7:34:20 AM | 31

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 7, 2018 6:27:49 PM | 14

Sorry to go off topic but the Syrian Arab Army has just marched thru East Gouta town of Al-Hammouriyah to the joy of locals who are demanding that the arseholes of Faylaq al-Rahman and Jaysh al-Islam take the next stage outta Beit Sawa.

One of the basic tricks of the Syrian war is that the Syrian jihadis fighting for the revolt are mainly of rural origin, while urban Sunnis mainly support the government. I used to think it was just middle-class Sunnis who were for Asad, but it's clear that the phenomenon is wider than that. The effect we saw in East Aleppo which fell quickly, because the jihadis "defending" it were village people, not locals who were not keen on the jihadis. I think we're seeing the same in Ghouta. According to Masdar, the rural parts have been completely overrun, leaving just the towns in jihadi hands. But the jihadis are village people, and the urban people don't much like them (and indeed despise them). I don't think Ghouta is going to last too long.

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 8, 2018 9:46:29 AM | 32

On CSPAN Rosenworcel referenced Russian interference, but when asked about it point blank, she admitted that she did not know who was doing it.

IMO fake comments are the comment process' equivalent to astro-turfing--there are plenty of powerful interests with an incentive to make it appear that ordinary citizens support their greedy position.

Posted by: JohnH | Mar 8, 2018 10:17:42 AM | 33

The BBC reported this morning that a police officer who was amongst the earliest responders to the “nerve gas” poisoning of the Russian spy is also being treated for symptoms. How was it that many “White Helmets” who were filmed where the sarin gas was dropped on Khan Sheikhoun last April suffered no symptoms? Long time readers here know the answer, but maybe the average BBC listener might wonder... or maybe I have too high a hope that the people can hear what what is actually said.

Posted by: Peter VE | Mar 8, 2018 11:50:55 AM | 34

When the Orwellian PropornOrNot project succeeds in censoring all forms of descent and free speech wherever the grip of the evil USA empire reaches, it will also be thanks to Trump. That disgraceful sell out Ajit Pai became chairman of the FCC in April 2017 on Trumps watch and effectively killed net neutrality. It will probably be slow and steady from here on. Like the frog riddle in the hot water.

As for .ru e-mail addresses. I have a handful of Yandex addresses which is because most of the other providers (like Google, Live, ...) require your mobile phone number which I would never give of course. Yandex at the time was one of the few offering free e-mail addresses without restrictions so probably only a fraction of the users that made comments on the FCC are Russians or have any connection with Russian culture.

Posted by: xor | Mar 8, 2018 12:35:33 PM | 35

#36 xor... make the switch like others have!

https://www.yandex.com/

Posted by: james | Mar 8, 2018 12:59:16 PM | 36

Full discloser on my part dictates my saying first, and foremost, that DT's appearance to favor detente with Russia is NOT motivated by egalitarian virtue. He owes them tons of $, not because, like myself and many here, detente with Russia is a necessary policy for a multi-polar world.

The forces driving the "Russia did it" meme, come from the multi-national corporate morons who consider Russia, China and others, who won't bend to their will, dangerous competitors...

Posted by: ben | Mar 8, 2018 1:32:39 PM | 37

Posted by: Peter VE | Mar 8, 2018 11:50:55 AM | 35

The BBC reported this morning that a police officer who was amongst the earliest responders to the “nerve gas” poisoning of the Russian spy is also being treated for symptoms.

The phrase they use is "a nerve agent".
And they do not say (yet) what kind of 'agent' it is.
So it could be botox, kurare, that stuff from venomous Amazon frogs or from fugu pufferfish, or mirriad other substances that disrupt nervous system one way or another.
Botox (botulinum toxin) is the most potent one, and it is commercially available, thanks to the beauty industry.

Posted by: hopehely | Mar 8, 2018 2:01:06 PM | 38

ben 38

Trump's main target country apart from Iran is China. To take on China, he trump to at least split the Russia/China partnership, if possible have Russia as an ally. I think Kissinger was involved in making China basically a neutral in cold war 1.0 and early on had a number of meetings with Trump and also one or more meetings with Putin.

Posted by: Peter AU 1 | Mar 8, 2018 2:09:38 PM | 39

How is the present Russia-Bashing different from the post-ww2 Red Scare, aka McCarthy-ism. (Another before that, see link)

The core was, Communism, an ideology contrary to USA liberalism etc. Scares concerning espionage, spies, agents, were punted. Plus MAD and hiding under desks.

If we compare communications then (secret drop boxes, telephone, telegram, microfiche) with today, infiltration by internet trolls - it is not too different.

Except that ‘then’ the communist angle was associated with US ‘leftists’ (fellow travellers, Union types, workers international, etc.), the potential ‘traitors’ were to be found on the ‘leftish’ side of the pol. spectrum which included at that time Hollywood, artists, writers, associated.

The ‘right-wing’ side at present (talking tribes here and not pol. programs or opinions, please don’t come back and castigate me that the terms are meaningless) is blamed for ‘colluding’ with Russia, under the umbrella accusation of authoritarianism first, then, with ‘corruption’, with fascism (was levelled at the fellow travellers as well), plus with a peculiar tag-on of racism which is an outcome of the duplicitous identity policitics used as a divide-to-rule distraction by the Dems.

Difference 2), the present Russia Panic is not taken seriously. Nobody except a few figures (Manafort?.. idk .. who, what?) are going to loose their livelihood, go to prison, etc. Media froth and fakey hysterical hype, shadow-snarky play, a laugh.. Jokes and memes. Trumpeters love Putin, a great leader who resembles their GEOTUS (God Emperor of these U S) allright then. Then? Nothing.

It all seems rather empty, spinning along with no real consequence. See as well, Internal issues, e.g. gun control - lots of air space, hysteria, screeching, show time for some favored, and then… heh what, no change, on to some other issue.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_Red_Scare

Posted by: Noirette | Mar 8, 2018 2:36:05 PM | 40

"ProPornOT"? not sure if that was intentional but it's amusing.

i may have said this in another comment, but people writing long screeds about "bots" and "hacking" should have the technological acumen of an average junior high student. many don't. it's bad enough when there's an extensive public record of spooks in the NSA and CIA using false attribution regarding malware and IP addresses and etc., but when it's a public form that can be filled out with literally any information trying to pin it empirically on anyone or any nation is flat-out moronic.

i could write a bot that filled out the form through tor nodes and left ".gov" addresses. would these "geniuses" then claim that bitter former obama supporters or impish trump staffers "hacked" the FCC? probably.

Posted by: the pair | Mar 8, 2018 2:56:48 PM | 41

"The forces driving the "Russia did it" meme, come from the multi-national corporate morons who consider Russia, China and others, who won't bend to their will, dangerous competitors..."

I am not sure. China was a favorite place to outsource industrial production because of the mix of labor costs, labor discipline (authoritarian government are liked by employers) and infrastructure, rather than a competitor -- although it becomes a genuine competitor in some industries. Russia is a notable competitor in defense products. However, it is military industrial sector that badly needs impressive enemies to get impressive funds. In proportion to economy it is behind medical-industrial complex, but it is placed closer to the center of politics than the latter -- at least, the politics that it needs are visible by design, like building up threats from Russia, North Korea, Iran and China, while medical sectors grub money in ways that the public would better not understand.

Posted by: Piotr Berman | Mar 8, 2018 2:57:06 PM | 42

Thanks for being there.

Posted by: Alain | Mar 8, 2018 2:57:10 PM | 43

An entertaining point about the poisoning of Skripal and his daughter made by Craig Murray is that while the British media and politicians are declaring the event a grave attack on the UK, it is in fact true that the place where the event happened is located only 8 miles from Porton Down, the largest stockpile of chemical and biological weapons in Europe [and which certainly includes this particular nerve agent the identification of which is not yet published].

Posted by: Laguerre | Mar 8, 2018 3:24:31 PM | 44

@ Laguerre | 45

Geez, what a coincidence!

I was also entertained this morning at the spectacle of the British Parliament discussing this mystery.

Conservative MP Sir Edward Leigh declaimed, in the thunderous, portentous, melodramatic fashion characteristic of that ancient deliberative body, “The circumstantial evidence against Russia is very strong. Who else would have the motive and the means?"

I was disappointed that instead of the usual harrumphing and "Hear, hear!"s from the assembly, someone didn't answer this "cui bono" argument by shouting, "Why, MI6 of course, you bloody toff!"

Posted by: Ort | Mar 8, 2018 7:53:31 PM | 45

PB @ 43: China was fine, as long as they let the corporate morons exploit their labor, but if you feed a nation enough, it grows to be a competitor/ enemy. The multi-national morons don't think long term, only short term gains.

Posted by: ben | Mar 8, 2018 11:03:50 PM | 46

ZH has now picked up this posting by b and gives him credit at the top. You are getting them trained b.....

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 9, 2018 1:34:47 AM | 47

Totally agree re: the constant debunking required. The attacks on free speech are getting more obscure with each passing day.

The law becomes a sideshow when trial by superconcentrated media, and trial by google algorithm are allowed to hang, quarter and dry independent journalism and sever it's connection from the public.

Stories will just... Disappear.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 9, 2018 4:41:54 AM | 48

The forces driving the "Russia did it" meme, come from the multi-national corporate morons who consider Russia, China and others, who won't bend to their will, dangerous competitors…"

I’m with Piotr 43 on that, not really. Imho, the driving force was the Dems + the MSM. Just like in 1950, blaming Russia sympathisers - in the current case, Russians and Putin directly - served the purpose of discrediting the ‘opposite’ camp, though now for sins that are in part different. Russia (..USSR) provides a handy scapegoat enemy, in both cases, partly because it can be trusted to not go postal.

2016 >, the Dems (who loathe Russia…another story, see from Billy C in Yugoslavia to Obama in Ukraine) could not blame the Repubs or any US-internal entity for Trump’s win, an outsider had to do.

The main aim was to obscure the reasons Killary lost, to keep the electorate on board, allow her (1) to play victim and spur agression directed outward > Putin and Russia, and by extension _ association, Trump and his supporters. (Unfortunately ‘deplorables’ are poor people who never had contact with Russia or any dreams about it, hardly know anything about Putin, and basically couldn’t care less about that sh*t.)

In short, a million ppl or more in some seats of power / posted on control circuits (mostly media), were offered up a rationalisation, some story line to hang onto, to bruit about, denounce others, etc. (The real trickle-down, to some specific say 5%.)

1. Plus cohorts, Dem apparatus, apointees, criminal circuits, regional powers, corporate tied-in ppl, etc. a huuuge vital network with tentacles all over the country. If that breaks up you are done for.

Posted by: Noirette | Mar 9, 2018 10:35:23 AM | 49

The main aim was to obscure the reasons Killary lost, to keep the electorate on board, allow her (1) to play victim and spur agression directed outward > Putin and Russia, and by extension _ association, Trump and his supporters. (Unfortunately ‘deplorables’ are poor people who never had contact with Russia or any dreams about it, hardly know anything about Putin, and basically couldn’t care less about that sh*t.)
Posted by: Noirette | Mar 9, 2018 10:35:23 AM | 50

Victimhood.

Isn't this a thing in the current western political and social fabric. Disarm your opponents with defensive non-facts, anecdotes and heresay, repeat nonsense message via outrage in MSM and other fakeleft outlets.

Effective.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 16, 2018 8:11:23 AM | 50

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