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May 30, 2017

France Prepares Pro-AlQaeda Intervention In Syria

It seems like France is looking for excuses to extend the war on Syria.

On May 25 the French news agency AFP published a propaganda piece about Arab horse racing in Idleb:

The spectators broke out into a lively line-dance and shot celebratory gunfire into the air as each muscled creature blasted past the finish line, kicking up clouds of golden sand.

"Muscled creatures", "clouds of golden sands" - is that modern French poetry?

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The AFP pictures only show two horses - not much of a race. Adding to that fail they also show an al-Qaeda child soldier (on the right) with a gun way too big for him:

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Idleb governate is of course completely occupied, controlled and ruled (vid report) by Al-Qaeda apes.

Why is AFP publishing such recruiting and public relation pieces for al-Qaeda? Why can a fully named AFP photographer work openly in Idleb without any fear of abduction or being killed? Most important: Why is AFP coming out with this right now?

The next remarkable news via French media came yesterday:

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The slick globalist puppet Macron issued that "red line" threat at a press conference with the Russian President Putin.

[Macron] said that any use of such weapons in Syria would lead to "reprisals" from France — without specifying exactly what form they would take.

That "red line" is of course an invitation to al-Qaeda and its allied Saudi financed "Syrian opposition" to stage another fake "chemical weapon attack". It will then get "reprisal"(?) for that by French bombing of the Syrian army and its allies.

The Macron remark was prepared, not spontaneous, and it is obvious what it means. This was not a threat against al-Qaeda should it again use the chemical weapons it has. This was a threat to attack the Syrian government independent of who uses whatever seems "chemical" in al-Qaeda produced pictures. Any unproven claim of chemical weapon use will will be sufficient.

Today another piece of the puzzle fell into place:

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AFP pushes a nice story about al-Qaeda ruled Idleb, Macron sets the stage for a fake "red line" chemical attack plot and then meets the Saudi financed opposition to implement it:

The unannounced meeting with Riad Hijab and a broader delegation from the Riyadh-based High Negotiations Committee (HNC), which includes political and armed groups, came as Macron seeks to review French policy on the six-year civil war.

"The president spoke of his personal commitment to the Syria dossier and of his support for the Syrian opposition in view of a political transition," his office said in a statement.

The HNC "armed groups" are allied with al-Qaeda.

The U.S. military currently fails with its attempt to occupy south-east Syria. Iraq and Syrian forces will prevent the move (recom). The U.S. proxy "New Syrian Army"  is retreating as the Syrian army comes near. More U.S. weapons for it will not be enough to change the picture. Trump seems not willing right now to dive deeper into the Syrian cauldron. The British government has been burned by the Manchester blowback attack which was committed by a British "Libyan rebel" it had pushed to fight with Jihadis when Theresa May was the responsible Home Secretary, There is little appetite right now for another such blunder.

That leaves France's Macron as the "western" regime changer in chief. Little Emmanuel needs to make his foreign policy mark to impress mama. A "heroic" little bombing campaign as "reprisal" for a fake chemical weapon attack may well be on his mind. I doubt though that the capable Russian air defense and air forces in Syria will let him get away with it.

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The Norwegians are probably getting a little resistant to a False Flag in Al Tanf, otherwise it would have happened by now.

So Lebanon and the French navy will come next. France couldn't hit Idleb hard or for long at all, except perhaps with her "force de frappe". So there will likely be a false flag in Lebanon and a combined French/Israeli intervention. Macron has signaled that it will be a CW attack. Then another attempt to drag Nato into WWIII in the levant.

Posted by: Heros | May 30, 2017 12:06:31 PM | 1

Macron, errand boy for the usual vile duplicitous Western agenda.

Posted by: AriusArmenian | May 30, 2017 12:09:11 PM | 2

Personally, I think you're going a bit far there, b. Macron has done some foolish things on the international scene the last couple of days, of which the famous handshake with Trump is perhaps the best known, but daring to "warn" Putin is about the same level of idiocy. I take it to be lack of experience in foreign affairs.

That doesn't mean that he's actually wanting to go to war, though you can never be sure. The French government has this clique of rabid anti-Asad intellectuals, to whom they are emotionally committed, for reasons I find difficult to understand. I am constantly having arguments with such people, who are completely and blindly committed to overthrowing Asad, without any thought that Syria needs peace in short order. I had to throw one of them out of my office the other day. I am not going to tolerate people who insist on prolonging the war in Syria until eternity. The so-called secular rebels are never going to come to power, and they should recognise it.

That doesn't necessarily mean though that France is going to go to war against Asad, even if the rebels do come up with another gas attack which can be blamed on him. I doubt that there would be much support in France. It's economic results that the French are looking for from Macron, not a new war. So it would be some bombing raids, if it happened. Seeing that Trump looks like he pulled his punches with the 59 Tomahawks, I don't see what a French attack could do. They've got about a squadron of planes to put in the fight, much like the Brits. They're already flying with the Americans from the Gulf. So what would they do?

Posted by: Laguerre | May 30, 2017 12:20:55 PM | 3

This crossing the "Red Line" is starting to get ridiculous. Stop supporting the so called "opposition" and there won't be any need to do anything. And as for that horse race they must be preparing for the final leg of the triple crown (Belmont Stakes)here in NY on June 10th. If the jockey and horse are good I'll put them in a $2 trifecta box.

Posted by: NewYorker | May 30, 2017 12:21:58 PM | 4

The named photographer, Omar Haj Kadour, is a well-known "local activist" in Idlib, Aleppo, etc. He's had photographs published from East Aleppo (pre-liberation), Khan Shaykhoun, Al Fuah, etc. and across a variety of news sources including The Guardian, and Sputnik among others. I reckon AFP is just acting as his agent/pimp.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 30, 2017 12:26:14 PM | 5

Another false flag is coming. The question is when. Likely after June elections in Britain and France. France bombing Syria, particularly if Russia responds, is not going to be popular with voters. The woeful En Marche! would suffer, while Corbyn would benefit electorally from another bombing run. So the sarin will have to wait until after June 18.

Posted by: Mike Maloney | May 30, 2017 12:38:42 PM | 7

LG 3 It's economic results that the French are looking for from Macron, not a new war. So it would be some bombing raids, if it happened. Seeing that Trump looks like he pulled his punches with the 59 Tomahawks, I don't see what a French attack could do.

Americans were looking for economic results from the businessman Trump and Isolationist Foreign Policy. Instead, we're getting austerity for the commons, tax cuts for the rich and open season on resource extraction and environmental destruction.

While much of Trump's FP is a load of bombastic rhetoric, we remain in the dark, waiting for what will come of it. The SECDEF and the generals are straight out of Dr. Strangelove.

Posted by: fastfreddy | May 30, 2017 12:43:04 PM | 8

Macron warned about a chemical attack would be answered immediately by France, so you have your answer right there. As for fighting, the French would have someone else do it for them, just like they have someone else do the heavy lifting and cleaning in France.

Posted by: mischi | May 30, 2017 12:43:31 PM | 9

>>>> Laguerre | May 30, 2017 12:20:55 PM | 3

That doesn't mean that he's actually wanting to go to war, though you can never be sure.

Could it be that he's pissed of because Trump hoovered up all the Saudi defence expenditure for the US and UK for the next few years? Perhaps this is a reminder to the Saudis via the HNC of what a reliable weapons pimp he can be.

And with the National Assembly elections on June 11 and 18, it'll be a month or so before he can do anything.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 30, 2017 12:50:39 PM | 10

"The U.S. proxy SDF is retreating as the"...

b meant "FSA" instead of "SDF" although they're all askari's.

Posted by: xor | May 30, 2017 12:59:16 PM | 11

Syria should buy some S400 and stop this perverted maniac called Macron and his buddies in ISIS, Nusra. Also, pro-ISIS groups in France must be happy with Macron doing their work in Syria.
But this is what the french voted for, Le Pen warned about these wars, blowbacks many times. No one listened.

Posted by: Anonymous | May 30, 2017 1:03:28 PM | 12

Why can a fully named AFP photographer work openly in Idleb without any fear of abduction or being killed?

Good question!

Answer: AFP's Syria guy is Omar Haj Kadour, a fully embedded "media activist" and supporter of "the Revolution" - on the same level as Aleppo Media Center, Hadi al-Abdallah and Moaz al-Shamy with whom he hangs out (I am collecting their selfies :)

So, via AFP Kadour we have a *direct* feed of rebel material into the Western media system. Including many fake stories & staged pictures (notably also from Khan Sheikhoun), - which are then sold via AFP and gettyimages to the "world press"!

Posted by: Qoppa | May 30, 2017 1:19:12 PM | 13

Could it be that he's pissed of because Trump hoovered up all the Saudi defence expenditure for the US and UK for the next few years?
That's not how I see that affair. The fact is that no-one in Saudi and the Gulf has got spare cash these days, because of the decline in the oil price. Even Saudi may be bankrupt in several years, if they continue the war in Yemen (which, of course, they could stop tomorrow, if they were ready politically). You have to ask why they signed those contracts with Trump, when they can't afford it, and don't need the weapons. The answer naturally is that it's paying for protection, a bit like a shop-owner paying a protection-racket. This doesn't leave much space for the French, and they should have known this.

Posted by: Laguerre | May 30, 2017 1:35:40 PM | 14

thanks b.. good summation of the new doofus in chief for france... just the way the banking cartel would like it.. war, war and more war or preparation for war, which would have to include open support for the moderate headchoppers and any false flags they can run up the poll.. what's not to like about this doofus macaroon?

@3 laguerre... macron is just another freakin' stooge for the war party/empire.. get over it..

Posted by: james | May 30, 2017 1:46:03 PM | 15

France is run by the Zionists, no one has mentioned that.

Posted by: mischi | May 30, 2017 1:49:37 PM | 16

The Macron/Putin press conference at Versailles has some interesting points. For example, after his short, propagandistic tirade about RT and Sputnik, Putin said: "France of course is making its contribution to the fight against terrorism in Syria as part of the US-led international coalition. We do not know how much independence France has when it comes to operational matters because these are agreements between allies and we are not privy to that," thus reminding Macron that it doesn't control its own foreign policy. Nor is reopening the French Embassy in Damascus; Macron: "Opening our embassy in Damascus is not a priority for us. I will not insist on that." Macron also seems to be well behind the various negotiation events and their results to-date, trying to sound important while those events are totally out of his control:

"I would like to see political and diplomatic frameworks for discussions so that we could build peace. In this context, it is necessary to negotiate together with all the participants in this process. But to do so we have to start exchanging information and views. Together with the other partners, it is necessary to negotiate with all the parties to the Syrian conflict, including Assad’s representatives." http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54618

Earlier today, Putin had a meeting with Deputy Crown Prince and Defence Minister of Saudi Arabia Mohammad bin Salman Al Saud, with the Kremlin posting this short note about the visit--please note the tone of the rhetoric, http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54627

Posted by: karlof1 | May 30, 2017 1:51:57 PM | 17

Oh, and those AFP pics. I didn't know Idlib had any deserts.

Posted by: karlof1 | May 30, 2017 1:54:43 PM | 18

' The answer naturally is that it's paying for protection '

here is hassan nasrallahs extended discussion of the al saud familys motives... its the family that is paying for protection, not the people...

http://thesaker.is/hassan-nasrallah-on-donald-trumps-visit-to-saudi-arabia/

in a typical colonial arrangement, the peoples wealth is being plundered by the foreign thug in cahoots with the local thug... if you wanted to steal somebodys oil, why on earth would you do the dirty work yourself ? you would much rather get some local thug to do the dirty, and give him 10% of the loot....


Posted by: a | May 30, 2017 1:55:52 PM | 19

@16 mishci... no one is stating the obvious.. why bother?

with regard to doofus macron - i guess the afp news agency is real reporting, especially as they are covering from idlib, home to those moderate headchopper opposition types that macron and his handlers are in bed with.. rt would never qualify..

Posted by: james | May 30, 2017 1:57:16 PM | 20

I think you're vastly overestimating Macron's power. I don't think he makes any decisions that are independent of Angela Merkel in Germany. the Germans have to know that Russia would shoot French jets out of the sky and France would go running for help. I don't think Germany wants a military confrontation with Russia and Trump is too unpredictable to depend on for that kind of help.

Posted by: Danny801 | May 30, 2017 2:29:53 PM | 21

From the Angry Arab:
Expect some rebranding of HTS/Al Nusrah/Al Qaeda very soon. A Saudi spokesman in Beirut has announced that the Free Syrian Army no longer exists and called for a yet another "new" Syrian opposition group. Will it include the "moderate" HTS/Al Nusrah/Al Qaeda? You never know.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 30, 2017 2:33:01 PM | 22

Macron is presiding over a stricken, dispirited country, so he'll need to rally it somehow - and the air strikes are a well-tested means to achieve that. The good thing is that France won't be able to sustain its effort when confronted with Russian objections, the bad is that France's ills are terminal and Macron will be compelled to conduct an adventurous foreign policy to refocus the attention of his subjects.
All in all, Macron will prove to be an unmitigated disaster for France, because he is a tragic status quo figure trying desperately to sustain the world that is fading - and will eventually fade - away.

Posted by: telescope | May 30, 2017 3:14:25 PM | 23

@22 ghostship... they just take a page here and there from hollywood... nothing a nice touch up, gloss job can't fix! welcome to the western msm... bullshit at it's finest..

Posted by: james | May 30, 2017 3:26:43 PM | 24

>>>> Laguerre | May 30, 2017 1:35:40 PM | 14

This doesn't leave much space for the French, and they should have known this.

So Macron is trying to muscle in on Trump's protection racket. Well I wish him good luck with that. The USGs enforcers are far more numerous and experienced, and better equipped. Perhaps we'll see Macron branded the new Hitler and a colour revolution aimed at him if he doesn't back down soon. As a banker he should have understood that the world is organised solely for the benefit of JP Morgan, Goldman Sachs, etc rather than the cheese-eating surrender monkeys.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 30, 2017 4:01:30 PM | 25

ot - new article up from elijah j. m. Eliminating ISIS is top priority for Damascus and its allies: The Military operations in Iraq and Syria are being harmonised

Posted by: james | May 30, 2017 4:40:46 PM | 26

@26 it is linked in b's article under "will prevent the move (recom)"

Posted by: Lozion | May 30, 2017 4:50:38 PM | 27

thanks lozion.. i often don't click all the links.. i like reading elijah j. m..

Posted by: james | May 30, 2017 5:10:52 PM | 28

Last I heard, Russia and Iran were OK with HNC's participation in the Astana Process, in which the Syrian government also is a participant. I realize most/all of the HNC members are Salafist and that some have been effectively part of al-Qaeda, but in the interests of the negotiated peace that surely is necessary, it does not strike me as helpful or accurate to conflate al-Qaeda and the HNC participants.

Posted by: Berry Friesen | May 30, 2017 5:20:04 PM | 29

I truly fail to grasp Syria's importance to France. But whatever the underlying motive it has been powerful enough to inspire the actions and attitudes of three successive Presidents: Sarkozy, Hollande and now Macron.

Since Macron is the product of the financial establishment, and considering that France is now solidly in the grip of the jewish powers, one must conclude that the tenacity shown by the West as far as Syria is concerned stems from Israel's directives.

The Ivory Towers from whence the World is acted upon do not flinch at people's misery and the wanton sufferings and destruction their will inflicts on others.

After all, goys deserve all the sufferings the Chosen Few can bestow upon them.

Therefore, only Israel's end can conjure the grim fate that will be the inevitable outcome of the NWO.

Posted by: CarlD | May 30, 2017 5:21:28 PM | 30

@28 no sweat james, I too like to read his analysis..

Posted by: Lozion | May 30, 2017 5:30:54 PM | 31

@30 It probably goes back to Pope Urban II famous sermon in Clermont in 1095 when France signed up for the First Crusade. Then with Sykes/Picot. The French have always taken Levantine and North African affairs personally.

Posted by: dh | May 30, 2017 5:36:46 PM | 32

@29 bf, 'it does not strike me as helpful or accurate to conflate al-Qaeda and the HNC participants'

they are one and the same. it is unhelpful to pretend otherwise. i don't mean to strike you, of course :)

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 6:04:05 PM | 33

>>>> CarlD | May 30, 2017 5:21:28 PM | 30

I truly fail to grasp Syria's importance to France.

It's nothing more than kissing the Gulfies arse in the hope they'll throw some money France's way, just like the British. The French also used to hold Syria as a colony and split off Lebanon to give to the Christians there. The French have this strange idea that their former colonies should show Paris deference for all the benefits they accrued as colonies, particular Macron who spoke about this during the election I believe.

Futhermore, you remember those two Mistral-class amphibious assault ship that the French were going to deliver to the Russians until Obama decided they shouldn't but wasn't prepared to stump up the cash to allow France to refund Russia. The Saudi Arabians almost certainly bought them for Egypt and got Hollande of the hook.

Posted by: Ghostship | May 30, 2017 6:15:40 PM | 34

Do all these f***witted news agencies like AFP realise they are condoning the use of child jockeys in these horse races?
http://www.al-monitor.com/pulse/files/live/sites/almonitor/files/images/afppics/2017/05/21997510a4bf9c945eb4cca2f8f7f3f10c5fce8a.jpg

Where does this idea of racing "beloved Arabian horses" come from? Does it not come from those parts of the Arabian peninsula ruled by royal families with fists of iron? Where do the horses come from - have they been stolen and from whom? Before the outbreak of war in 2011, Syria did have a horse-breeding industry aimed at preserving the Arabian horse breed and its Syrian strains.

Also thanks to Ghostship and Qoppa for outing that AFP photographer as being embedded with the jihadis.

Posted by: Jen | May 30, 2017 6:16:45 PM | 35

@34, gs, 'The Saudi Arabians almost certainly bought them for Egypt and got Hollande of the hook.'

what's up with egypt and the ksa at this particular point in time?

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 6:18:23 PM | 36

@35, jen, '... the use of child jockeys in these horse races'

they use children as cannon fodder/human bombs in their jihad. the child jockeys are the lucky ones.

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 6:21:32 PM | 37

The western media - "state", public or corporate - is the propaganda arm of the neoliberal establishment. They push narratives that support and justify the establishment's goals and actions. Facts and truth are dangerous as they might tell a story that contradicts or invalidates the official line. Can't have the consumers, you know, thinking.

Everybody that seeks out alternatives to the MSM knows this. So why do so many pieces express "outrage" that OMG the MSM is LYING and TWISTING FACTS as if this is a stunning new revelation? How many times can the same piece be published before people begin yawning? What is the purpose of adding comments to a blog (besides venting and affirming tribal affiliations)? Debate or discussion is limited as most people seem content to simply push their views and defend them at all costs no matter how inaccurate, vague and nutty.

Politics as lifestyle choice and status indicator is pure neoliberalism. Truth? Facts? Pah...I have every right to believe anything I want and how dare you challenge my incoherent and illogical opinions! I know who killed JFK and who did 911! I can't prove it but I l know! Trump is a humanitarian who is being hamstrung by his opponents into breaking all his "promises", cozying up to the worlds foremost enabler of Islamist terrorists - the KSA - and selling them weapons! They are forcing him to kiss Zionist ass and villify Iran. Web must stand by him and support our beleaguered POTIUS as he bravely fights the powers that be and stands up working people!

The reality denial on this and other boards is almost as illogical and insane as the nonsense spread by SJWs who EXPLICITLY reject reason. The death of reason and critical thinking ought to be a wake up call to all intellectually inclined people. So many people simply believe a fantasy that best confirms their own biases and refuse to engage with opposing ideas and POVe. This suggests they have never learned to evaluate information and gauge its reliability and credibility. They are drawn to theories of grand plots and cover ups (e.g. climate change is a scam!) and make ridiculous assertions (e.g. Obama is a Marxist Muslim Kenyan)! This is the steam of consciousness babble of paranoid schizophrenics.

Anti-intellectualism neuters and dumbs down the citizenry and leads to cult-of-personality leader worship, aimless wild goose chases and divisive infighting. Meanwhile the "elites" go about destroying the last vestiges of democracy and the nation state and condemn millions of people to death and destitution.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | May 30, 2017 6:21:58 PM | 38

Please pardon typos etc., am typing this standing on a moving train.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | May 30, 2017 6:25:07 PM | 39

@39 ts

you're better off making sure you don't fall on your ass than wasting time impugning all of us on this board ... to what end, other than your own smug satisfaction?

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 6:37:29 PM | 40

jfl@33
Russia pretends otherwise. Iran pretends otherwise. Syria pretends otherwise. Turkey (of course) pretends otherwise. Why? My guess is they have reasonable hope that at least part of this horrible war will end in negotiations, which is my hope too.

Posted by: Berry Friesen | May 30, 2017 7:02:21 PM | 41

Macron, a Nouvelle cuisine blancmange, with an eye to presentation for the camera. Full of sugar and flour with copious egg on it's face. Please, the best it could do is be harmless to our collective health, Merci.

Posted by: sadness | May 30, 2017 7:06:24 PM | 42

b, you went and did it. I clicked on the link "to impress Mama" expecting to see the other Mama, - his wife,

Emanuel needs a horse's harness. The situation in Syria is now more complex. USA has begun shipping weapons to Kurdish militias.

What will be Erdogan's response? read on..

The US is now equipping Kurdish fighters of the Syrian Democratic Forces with heavy machine guns, small arms and ammunition to battle Islamic State fighters near their stronghold of Raqqa, Syria.

Pentagon spokesman Eric Pahon told RT that this move represents the "early steps to prepare for the eventual liberation of Raqqa," which the Islamic State (IS, formerly ISIS/ISIL) has declared the capital of its self-proclaimed caliphate.

"Overall, the equipment the US-led coalition will provide to the SDF includes small arms, ammunition, heavy machine guns and weapons capable of defeating specific threats our partner forces are expected to encounter as they take the fight to a desperate enemy, such as heavily-armored vehicle-borne IEDs," Pahon said in an emailed statement.

US-ally Turkey has long opposed the arming Kurdish forces, which it considers to be outgrowths of the Kurdistan Workers Party (PKK), a designated terrorist group in both Turkey and the US.

Amid reports of US delivering arms to the Kurdish-controlled northern Syrian city of Hasakah in recent weeks, Turkish President Recep Erdogan called the US decision “a mistake” and urged US authorities to “reverse it immediately.”

Pentagon spokesman Pahon told RT there were safeguards in place to prevent misuse of the weapons.

"Wherever possible, our advisors will monitor the use of the weapons and supplies we give the Kurdish elements of the SDF, ensuring use only against ISIS," he said. "Any alleged misuse or diversion of U.S. support will be taken seriously and lead to the possible curtailment of support, if verified."[.]



Posted by: likklemore | May 30, 2017 7:11:21 PM | 43

@41 bf

russia and syria and iran will talk to anyone ... including turkey, for instance. that's fine. that's good. but to pretend that the people you are talking to are other than who they are is not good. i hope the war is ended by negotiation too. i feel sure that the salafist usa/ksa side will only negotiate when they have been beaten on the ground. remember the seance that the rump and the saudis just held at terrorist central in riyadh? they're still pushing for the destruction of syria with all their might, and will until their might is exhausted.

of course, i might be wrong. the russians, syrians, iranians, and now the iraqis, have all eventualities covered, or are trying to cover them.

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 7:13:39 PM | 44

@43, likkel

sounds like its the us that needs the harness. the kurds have already been giving the turks a taste of their new arms, in return for attacks by the turks. those 'weapons capable of defeating specific threats our partner forces are expected to encounter as they take the fight to a desperate enemy, such as heavily-armored vehicle-borne IEDs' ought to work well against turkish armor.

but, after all, the us' 'strategy' is chaos ... death, devastation, and destruction ... so this is in keeping with that 'strategy'. the strategy is to arm everyone: to let the weapons find their owners via the 'invisible hand' of the market.

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 7:23:29 PM | 45

It's a shame Macron won. I read a statement from him in an article about the French supporting human rights for minorities, etc and yet they (along with HRC) led NATO to destroy Libya. They are hypocrites and seem to have the attitude that if they can't have their former colonies, they'll destroy them with bombs and jihadi proxies.

Posted by: Curtis | May 30, 2017 8:30:51 PM | 46

Ever since the heyday of the Foreign Legion (when the French elites used to send their post-Napoleonic warriors to places hot enough to fry their brains), the French have been so besotted with mirages that they named a war plane after one; presumably to remind themselves how much fun illusions can be.

Being a runt, and French, it's hardly surprising that Macron has a Napoleon-complex and believes so much of his own bullshit. But I can't help wondering what/if he was thinking when he decided to ventilate his Syria delusions in front of Putin. Is Macron a descendant of a Legionnaire?

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30, 2017 9:51:12 PM | 47

@ Hoarsewhisperer who asked about Macron delusions

Just remember, Macron is projecting the delusions of his puppeteers. He was just showing the French passion for it with Putin.

It certainly seems like lots of saber rattling going on. That sound usually turns into the wails of military war which I hope is not the outcome this time around. That said, an "economic" war will not be much fun either.....but that is where we are headed if some idiot doesn't pull the nuke trigger somewhere along this path.

I guess I will try and just keep healing myself today instead of the world

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 30, 2017 10:54:28 PM | 48

"... Is Macron a descendant of a Legionnaire?"

Nah, he's the original Legionnaire's Disease.

Touché!

:-)

Posted by: Jen | May 30, 2017 11:00:41 PM | 49

The dumb ass French are going to get whacked out of existence. The are incapabable of playing at this level and will pay the price. Basically, France no longer matters at all in world affairs.

Posted by: Robert McMaster | May 30, 2017 11:10:27 PM | 50

HW @47

All he has to do is read the script.

Posted by: stumpy | May 30, 2017 11:11:20 PM | 51

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 30, 2017 10:54:28 PM | 48

Read karlof1's May 30, 2017 1:51:57 PM | 17 cites, especially...

Putin said: "France of course is making its contribution to the fight against terrorism in Syria as part of the US-led international coalition. We do not know how much independence France has when it comes to operational matters because these are agreements between allies and we are not privy to that,"

Imo, that's Putin hinting, ever so respectfully, that it would be VERY EASY for Macron to do something silly enough to open the Gates Of Hell, via inexcusable duplicity and flagrant betrayal.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 30, 2017 11:14:59 PM | 52

re 15

macron is just another freakin' stooge for the war party/empire.. get over it..
That's not a very bright comment, is it? Why not do some research, instead of just expressing your blind prejudice?

Posted by: Laguerre | May 30, 2017 11:15:17 PM | 53

Putin said: "France of course is making its contribution to the fight against terrorism in Syria as part of the US-led international coalition. We do not know how much independence France has when it comes to operational matters because these are agreements between allies and we are not privy to that,"

Putin correctly suggests that France is a lapdog to US hegemony and imperium. He really has a way with words. Egg all over the faces of Macron and the entire French government.

Posted by: fast freddy | May 30, 2017 11:40:58 PM | 54

@52 hoarse, @52 ff

i think putin is working on the gap that's opened up in germany between the exceptional nation and its vassals ... daring the micron to act in france's interest, instead of in the perceived interest of the exceptional nation. he knows that micron has a soft spot for mutti.

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 11:48:47 PM | 55

Posted by: jfl | May 30, 2017 11:48:47 PM | 55

Well, to an extent...
But the bigger, and more obvious 'gap' infecting Christian Colonialism is the one that exists between the Craven Cowardice they practise and Heroism they preach.
I mean the French and the Yankees couldn't forget their respective humiliations in Vietnam quick enough - especially the irony of the Yankees blundering into Vietnam to show the French how to tame Yellow Heathens...

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 31, 2017 12:19:47 AM | 56

@ Hoarsewhisperer who wrote: "I mean the French and the Yankees couldn't forget their respective humiliations in Vietnam quick enough - especially the irony of the Yankees blundering into Vietnam to show the French how to tame Yellow Heathens..."

This Yank is LOL! thanks!

Empire is as empire does and the sheeple follow the TV and drool when the make money/consume bell rings.......sigh The guiding light on the hill, America ain't, if it ever was, anymore.

Posted by: psychohistorian | May 31, 2017 12:27:27 AM | 57

@17 (link)
"There are no points of conflict in our respective policies and we hope we will manage to steer them in the right direction in the interests of both countries." (Salman Saud)

Eh? ... Syria, Yemen, Iran, ...

Posted by: x | May 31, 2017 12:30:32 AM | 58

This is where leaders of the Syria/Iraq/Iran strategy are going to have to be very careful. If this is just a Macron seat of the pants while still hubris encrusted by his win, plan, there is no problem the whole thing will most likely become unstuck well before implementation as Macron has to juggle the realities presented by France's military leaders while also contending with the shitstorm of resistance to his domestic plans.
The same holds true if it is a plan suggested by amerikan handlers to their agent of influence. The odds are worse if it is the latter since amerikan handlers routinely chuck agents of influence, not to forget entire nations, under the bus if shit gets hard domestically (amerikan domestically).

The real danger is if that rump of colonialists who still infect both the french military and french policy-making have dreamed up the scheme, because they do have some practical knowledge of the difficulty inherent in murdering Arabs and may actually devise a somewhat workable gameplan.

The french generally lose when they take on the people of the ME but they do manage to cause incredible disruption and destruction while doing it (losing).
For example the hot mess that was Lebanon in the 1980's is almost 100% the fault of france and their decision - no insistence, on hiving off Lebanon from the rest of Syria. There was no reason other than france's endless incursions since the 11th century had resulted in some xtian converts - charming types who had spied upon, stolen from and sold out their compatriots to France for a thousand years.

The unworkable Confessionalism which gave the xtians a lot of power, power unrelated to their representation within the larger Lebanese population is an example of the havoc france inflicts on formersub rosa colonies when france pretends to leave them.
Dividing the political structure on sectarian lines made economic social division on the same lines inevitable.

OR the disaster that has been Haiti, once the richest island in the Caribbean is another. France billed the new state with a charge per head for all liberated slaves then forced the puppets they placed in control before france 'departed', to borrow money from the Rothschilds and pay the former slave owners off with that money. Haiti has been unworkably indebted in the centuries since then with the compound interest upon compound interest piling up to be burdened with yet another level of usury whenever the balance of world power changes. Englander moneylenders generally held the markers post 1815 but during the 20th century that shifted to amerikan banks - the debt has become so large that greedies need the power of the most resourced intelligence network to make sure a puppet leads Haiti plus biggest available military as debt collectors. Otherwise the masses do things such as electecting Aristide that must be 'corrected'.

Those humans who are even aware of ISDS, the Investor-state dispute settlement process whereby acts of democracy by sovereign states can be litigated against by allegedly independant tribunals (yeah right various non-amerikan corporations who have taken the US govt to the tribunal have lost 18 times which is the same as the number of times amerika has been sued under isds) - anyway most people imagine the process to have been devised by amerikan imperialists, when it is far older than NAFTA or any of the other one sided trade agreements amerika has inflicted upon weaker nations since 1945. The ealiest example appears to be the Jay Treaty between england and amerika back in 1794 when englanders wanted to prevent any more amerikan state governments from legislating away debts owed to englander 'investors'.
ISDS became the standard fallback position for empires forced to shed their colonies post 1945. The Dutch used them to bleed Indonesia (formerly the dutch east indies) and france in indochina (hence paris peace talks) and africa

In Africa one way france enforces it's will on the allegedly free populations is because even an intransigent & loyal to his/her people african leader pauses over the decision to 'invite french mercenaries (aka french foreign legion) in, if he/she knows a failure to do so will cause a massive multi-billion dollar lawsuit that will be decided in favour of french corporations.

The french are going through an existential crisis at the moment and securing a slice of the ME action would enable the french to stick to neoliberal economic values without getting so down on the austerity thing that they provoke the sort of domestic resistance which brings the republic down.

There is a possibility that a strategy to ensure franco-german domination of the eu persists is dependent upon that part of Merkel's plan for a european army which includes the recruitment of young french people into the ranks of the eu military.
Such a move would alleviate some pressing problems with youth unemployment while indoctrinating the recruits into a way of thinking whereby a % of the youngest and brightest are taught to believe the welfare of 'france' is the primary concern of all citizens. Those who do not adhere to that are traitors deserving of violent correction.

Humanists worldwide cannot allow that to happen in Syria. If it does occur, a big chunk of the ME will get screwed up even worse for centuries, making the rise of a crusader mentality and attendant domination of the western-most states of the Mid East just about inevitable.

Posted by: Debsisdead | May 31, 2017 12:50:11 AM | 59

@59 Fear not debs, for the Resistance's strength is growing and the New Kid on the Block words are just empty rethoric.
Syria/Iraq/Russia/Iran/Hezb alliance will prevail. It HAS to. Al Sham was destined to be THE redline..

Posted by: Lozion | May 31, 2017 1:49:31 AM | 60

@53 laguerre.. i will grant you it is a subjective comment, but it is my impression.. the guy is a bozo.. a well dressed, and probably well spoken, but a bozo either way.. for the jackass to say rt news is propaganda, shows bozo status.. for him to swallow the false flag chemical attacks in syria is more bozo, jackass status as well.. i could give a fuck he looks well dressed or is well spoken. the guy is a bozo.. that is what the french now have for a leader.. a jackass..

Posted by: james | May 31, 2017 2:23:10 AM | 61

I think it is a far-fetched fear.
But there seems to be an interesting article in the WSJ today (or yesterday?) about French special forces wearing Iraqi army fatigues and being in Mosul trying to locate the French djihadists amonf the Daesh people there (some to get rid of and some to bring back?)
I suspect that's the sole reason why the former Defense minister of Hollande was kept in the new gov with a bunch of other special operations guys. They are kindly asked to cover their marks everywhere.

Posted by: Mina | May 31, 2017 3:03:01 AM | 62

Slightly off-topic but all inter-related.

WISHLIST FOR JUNE

1. Corbyn wins an unlikely majority in the UK Election. (Or at least there is a Hung Parliament in the UK with a Labour-SNP majority Government coming to power. Welcome PM JC, tada no talent T May).

2. Effectively total chaos in the French Election with no party winning a legislative majority, and indeed no two parties including En Marche able to cobble together a majority. This requires a 3 party Governing coalition which hobbles President Macron immensely.

3. At some point in June (or perhaps July) Trump announces the US will block any IMF participation in any new bailout of Greece. Effectively recommending to Greece that it should default on all its debts. In your face Mutti Merkel. LOL.

4. Trump fires Corrupt Clinton Crime Cabal Crony McCabe and installs a true lawman as the new boss of the FBI - a true Trump loyalist. Trump mandates this loyalist to go after DNC Corruption, the murder of Seth Rich, John Podesta, Pizzagate, the Corrupt Clinton Crime Cabal and all of the above. Properly returning the FBI to its roots.

This last one is perhaps the most important of them all. For if he stuffs this FBI appointment up it conclusively indicates he has no idea whatsoever what he's doing and who he's truly fighting against.

Posted by: Julian | May 31, 2017 3:32:08 AM | 63

IMO, the set-up by Macron that b describes was made possible only by Trump's bombing of Syria. That bombing HAD to happen to set a 'red line' that if crossed would trigger a more severe bombing.

Macron's threatened bombing would logically include targeting Assad.

More here: The plot to kill Assad

Posted by: Jackrabbit | May 31, 2017 4:14:29 AM | 64

Julian @ 63: I'm praying for all four of your wishes to come true.

Posted by: Jen | May 31, 2017 4:49:00 AM | 65

French MSM reporting on Putin's visit had to admit that according to Macron's speech at the press conference, Assad's removal was no more on the menu

Posted by: Mina | May 31, 2017 5:39:04 AM | 66

@63, julian 'a true lawman as the new boss of the FBI - a true Trump loyalist'

squaring the circle? contradiction in terms, i think. don't think it's possible.

is it possible to expel a nato member? expelling the us would be high on my list, as long as we're wishing.

offer membership to russia. that would turn nato into a social club. no more wars.

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 6:26:58 AM | 67

Vladimir Putin’s interview with Le Figaro
http://en.kremlin.ru/events/president/news/54638

Posted by: ALAN | May 31, 2017 6:28:01 AM | 68

Thanks Alan!
I can imagine Trump trying to read that! For someone who divides the world into "the Muslims" (KSA), "the Jews" (Israel), and the Christians (Vatican) and thinks these are the only centres of power, it must be very hard to grasp.

Posted by: Mina | May 31, 2017 6:48:23 AM | 69

@68 alan

thanks for the link. it's always great to read putin. it's like reading someone from another, better planet.

tough to return to the world of may, the micron, and the rump.

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 7:05:58 AM | 70

VIDEO: Russian Navy fires cruise missiles on ISIS near Palmyra


The statement also noted that Russia has notified the US, Turkish and Israeli militaries prior to the attack.

and which one ... or did all three ... warn isis of the coming attack?

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 7:26:57 AM | 71

It's always great pleasure to read Thierry Meyssan: Trump advances his pawns


[...]
Over the last 16 years, and particularly during his Presidential electoral campaign, Donald Trump has presented himself as a militant anti-imperialist. Contrary to what is claimed by his detractors, the fact that he is a billionaire in no way compromises his political convictions.

Since he arrived at the White House [1], President Trump has had to fight against his own administration, of which 98% of the senior civil servants voted Hillary Clinton, and also against the allied governments of his predecessor.

So, over the last four months, he has continued to follow his desire to liberate his country and the world by instigating a series of actions which his adversaries either deform or present as contradictory.

During the Summit of the Arabo-Muslim States, on 21 May in Riyadh, Donald Trump appealed to his interlocutors in general and Saudi Arabia in particular to break off all contacts with the Muslim Brotherhood and to sever all ties with Islamic terrorism [2]. Aware that he was asking King Salman to give up his main army, he gifted him with a replacement arsenal worth 110 billion dollars.
[...]
At the Nato summit, on 25 May in Brussels, Donald Trump invited his allies to offer a minute of silence before a fragment of the Berlin Wall and a piece of débris from the Twin Towers. Reminding them that they had accepted – in the name of Article 5 of the Treaty - the principle of the fight against terrorism during the attacks of 9/11, he obliged them to redirect the aims of the Alliance [4]. It will of course maintain its anti-Russian function, but is now dedicated to the eradication of the jihadists which it has so far been coordinating from the base at Izmir (Turkey). As well as this, he compelled them to share their information concerning terrorist organisations via a Coordinated Intelligence Cell.

At the G7 Summit in Taormina, 26 May, Donald Trump managed to strong-arm his allies into making a declaration « against terrorism and violent extremism » [5]. In reality, his partners only accepted the agreement in order to prevent the spilling over of terrorism to the West from the areas where they organise it, finance it and supervise it. In any case, the G7 began a process aimed at drying up not only the financing of terrorism, but also that of violent extremism, in other words the Muslim Brotherhood, the source of terrorism.

This declaration was only possible in the context of the attack in Manchester perpetrated on 22 May, by the son of an M16 double agent, both an ex-member of Mouamar Kadhafi’s security services and of Al-Qaïda [6]. But it is clear that the British still have no intention of depriving themselves of the Muslim Brotherhood.

However, it does seem possible that France and Germany are beginning to clean up their services. It will take them a while. Donald Trump has still not been able to do so in his own administration. Thus, on 20 May in Jeddah, the Pentagon delivered arms to the jihadists,honouring a contract signed in the final days of the Presidential transition [7]. These new weapons include multiple rocket-launchers and Bulgarian OT-64 SKOT tanks.

Posted by: ProPeace | May 31, 2017 7:43:45 AM | 72

Posted by: Mina | May 31, 2017 6:48:23 AM | 69

Wow. Self-deception? Or just good old-fashioned two-bob snobbery?
Trump would already have known all of Putin's views on every topic covered in the Le Fig interview - because they are just common sense.

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | May 31, 2017 8:56:05 AM | 73

@Laguerre | 3
Great comment.
I think that the situation is simply not clear enough to call - though all respect to 'b', of course, for his work in trying to unravel everything for us.
France does not live in a vacuum and can not be deaf and blind to the rumblings from NATO and Saudi - maybe even opportunistic Turkey who called in no uncertain terms for NATO to fight against terrorism and has now opened its bases to NATO! (What a pairing - both desperate to save their own hides!) Any clear and distinct move against Assad based on some 'crime' or other would possibly unleash such opportunists as are rife in the conflict and on its perimetres. Macron will tread more carefully and I believe in cooperation with Merkel and Putin.
What I think is happening is that there seems to be some vying for the power gap being left by Trump and maybe further, a vying to pick up Obama's mantle - he is still ominously present in the background.
Must add that I fear Kerry's absence!

Posted by: AtaBrit | May 31, 2017 9:07:00 AM | 74

@Lozion | 60
Brave words, but I agree. :-)

Posted by: AtaBrit | May 31, 2017 9:27:08 AM | 75

@/72:
A powerful statement in the article you linked. No truer words spoken recently, at least imo.

"Since he arrived at the White House [1], President Trump has had to fight against his own administration, of which 98% of the senior civil servants voted Hillary Clinton, and also against the allied governments of his predecessor."

Posted by: Morongobill | May 31, 2017 9:27:33 AM | 76

> jfl @71

hopefully the warning came 30 seconds or so before target reached :)

Posted by: xLemming | May 31, 2017 10:32:33 AM | 77


Ran across this item related to Trump's recent excursion to Saudi Arabia.

Don't follow the MSM that much so really not aware if this got any coverage -

US President Donald Trump received gifts from Saudi King Shah Salman with worth of $ 1.2 billion during his first visit to kingdom. The gifts given by Saudi King included a precious diamond, armband made of pure gold with King Salman’s photo imprinted on it and 25 kilogram heavy sword made of pure gold with different diamonds and stones on it. The sword is worth of $ 200 million. Furthermore, gold and diamond made watches, worth of $ 200 million, were also gifted to Trump and his family. A small replica of Statue of Liberty but made with gold, diamond and precious stones will also be sent to White House soon. Meanwhile, one of the major roads in Riyadh has also been named after Trump. A 125 meter long yacht, which is world’s tallest personal yacht as it has 80 rooms with 20 royal suits, will also be sent through US navy to America. No US President has received these kinds of gifts before by Saudi Kingdom

https://www.pakistantoday.com.pk/2017/05/28/saudi-king-salman-gifts-1-2-billion-items-to-trump/

Posted by: curious | May 31, 2017 11:49:31 AM | 78

Western imperialism never dies. How did France end up so thoroughly neoconized?

I appreciate the sarcasm on this blog but I thought this was borderline: "...by Al-Qaeda apes."

Anyway, I appreciate the good work on this blog.

Posted by: Edward | May 31, 2017 12:13:45 PM | 79

Translation Being: 1] Franco Syrian War stills upsets France & 2] More funding of jihadist and more attacking Assad.

Posted by: Rawdawgbuffalo | May 31, 2017 12:40:36 PM | 80

Just what is France going to do? What can Macron threaten if Putin crosses Macron's red line? He can't call Trump, because Trump won't send US force because Macron asks. On its own, France is impotent. It could not even bomb Libya for the first week, flying from Metropolitan France, without calling for US help.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | May 31, 2017 2:19:14 PM | 81

@74, atabrit 'a vying to pick up Obama's mantle - he is still ominously present in the background'

i heard that echoed, especially, by the loyal vassals at der spiegel, who seem to have swallowed the dnc hook, line, and sinker. will the richly-deserved bad-mouthing of the neocon usofa morph into strict anit-trumpism and a re-embrace of the neocon cia/dnc?

is the pope a catholic?

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 3:13:41 PM | 82

The NY times archives used to be free to consult but no longer. Anyway here from 1853 just the title/abstract, heading, nothing more is available. caps theirs not mine. Plus ca change ….! quote:

THREE DAYS LATER FROM EUROPE.; ARRIVAL OF THE AFRICA. Turkish Question not Settled. CONFLICTING RUMORS. MEDIATION OF AUSTRIA. ARMING OF THE TURKS. RUSSIAN FORCE ON THE FRONTIER. Position of France on the Question. MARKETS NOT ACTIVE. AMERICAN STOCKS--CONSOLS FIRM. TURKEY AND RUSSIA. Turkish Preparations to Meet the Worst The Armenians Incited to Aid the Turks Doubtful Dispatches by way of Vienna Sailing of the English and French Fleets -The Russian Ultimatum. The Designs of Russia--Movement of Troops. The Tarkish Difficulty--Progress of Negotiations. The Turkish Artillery. The Designs of Russia upon Turkey--A Historical Retrespect. Rumored Conspiracy to Overthrow the Minister, Nesselrode, and to Provoke War. ENGLAND. Parliament dull--Effect of the Turkish News --Commodore Vanderbilt--Americans at the Queen's Ball--National Education--The late Frand on Duncan, Sherman & Co.--The War Rockets--Miscellaneous News--Arrival of the West India Mail. FRANCE. / end quote.

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/abstract.html?res=990CE7DD1031E13BBC4953DFB1668388649FDE&legacy=true

still that sounds all a little more exciting or close to the bone than today's slop?

Posted by: Noirette | May 31, 2017 3:15:21 PM | 83

@83 noirette

from wikipedia, 1853, more news from 164 years ago


8 Jan – Taiping Rebellion: Zeng Guofan is ordered to assist the governor of Hunan in organising a militia force to search for local bandits.
12 Jan – Taiping Rebellion: The Taiping army occupies Wuchang.
10 Feb – Taiping Rebellion: Taiping forces assemble at Hanyang, Hankou and Wuchang for the march on Nanjing.
20 Mar – Taiping Rebellion: A rebel army of around 750,000 seizes Nanjing, killing 30,000 Imperial troops.
27 Jun – Taiping Rebellion: The Northern Expeditionary Force crosses the Yellow River.
30 Oct – Taiping Rebellion: The Taiping Northern Expeditionary Force comes within three miles (5 km) of Tianjin.
6 Dec – Taiping Rebellion: French minister de Bourboulon arrives at the Heavenly Capital aboard the Cassini.

4-5 Oct – Crimean War: The Ottoman Empire starts war with Russia.
28 Oct – Crimean War: The Ottoman army crosses the Danube into Vidin/Calafat in Wallachia.
4 Nov – Crimean War: Battle of Oltenitza: Turkish victory over Russians.
30 Nov (18 Nov O.S.) – Crimean War: Battle of Sinop: The Russian fleet destroys the Turkish fleet.


china/north korea, ukraine/syria ... plus ca change is right.

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 3:52:54 PM | 84

Amnesty: French state of emergency aimed at stopping peaceful protests


France imposed the state of emergency following the November 2015 Daesh attack in Paris which claimed the lives of at least 130 people. In accordance to the emergency measures, a multitude of public assemblies and protests have been banned. It also permits police to search citizens without warrants.

According to a report released by the rights group on Wednesday, some 155 decrees have been issued banning public assemblies since the state of emergency was imposed.

Some 639 measures aimed at stopping people from participating in public assemblies, mostly against labor law reforms, have also been issued.

The state of emergency is scheduled to be revoked on July 15, but newly elected President Emmanuel Macron has said he will call on parliament to extend it until November.


the macaroon will retain the dictatorship?

France
Area
• Total 643,801 km2
Population
• Total 2017​ estimate 66,991,000
Government
• Civilian dictatorship since November 2015

Thailand
Area
• Total 513,120 km2
Population
• 2015 estimate 67,959,000
Government
• Military dictatorship since May 2014

Posted by: jfl | May 31, 2017 8:53:06 PM | 85

@jfl | 85
"France imposed the state of emergency following the November 2015 Daesh attack in Paris"
Well worth pointing this out, cheers. It amazes me that this situation has been allowed to continue unquestioned by EU leaders. Not only has it been a clear infringement on civil rights from the off-set, it is also used by Erdogan to 'justify' Turkey's own state of emergency which is far closer to being a 'curtain' to hide the civil war and demographic manipulation in the South of Turkey!

oh, btw - when I mentioned the 'vying' to pick up Obama's mantle, I actually had in mind Merkel and Macron, though in truth there is no competition. Obama all but handed it to Merkel in their 'showpiece' meeting the other week. :-)

Posted by: AtaBrıt | Jun 1, 2017 6:28:49 AM | 86

@86 atabrit

well one old gray mare ain't what she used to be ... and neither is the other. i think mutti's pique at the usofa will disappear with the rump ... whenever that is. if she's still around herself, of course.

Posted by: jfl | Jun 1, 2017 10:14:19 AM | 87

Western MSM spread fake news (again!) about russian hacking:

BREAKING: RT@ No trace of Russian hacking in Macron election campaign attack – French cyber defense chief

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 10:51:20 AM | 88

i really wasn't expecting to find something this insightful in a place like this.

Posted by: anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 11:17:46 AM | 89

>>>> Anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 10:51:20 AM | 88

Western MSM spread fake news (again!) about russian hacking:

BREAKING: RT@ No trace of Russian hacking in Macron election campaign attack – French cyber defense chief

But Macron has claimed that RT and Sputnik are nothing but Russian propaganda so why would you believe it after reading about it only on RT and would you believe anything in the western MSM?
As it is, the Washington Post has published the same statement with a few statements from Putin including some on Trump which will no doubt drive the neo-con, McCainist and Clintonist Russo-phobes stark raving bonkers all over again.
If you hit the WaPo paywall, go Incognito in Chrome to get around t.

Posted by: Ghostship | Jun 1, 2017 1:32:30 PM | 90

Ghostship

Are you being sarcastic, I cant tell. Why wouldnt I trust them?

Posted by: Anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 2:48:19 PM | 91

Macron had to say so otherwised he'd have been lynched. The guy knows how to play the media very well.

Posted by: Mina | Jun 1, 2017 3:07:32 PM | 92

macron the macaroon

Posted by: anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 5:34:07 PM | 93

Anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 2:48:19 PM | 91

Sort of, I was aiming for a bit of irony - since Guillaume Poupard's statement contradicts the Clintonist party line, I expected that the Washington Post wouldn't report on it so that the Clintonists would claim that this was just another example of RT propaganda.

The Daily Beast blamed the leak on Fancy Bear who the Clintonists claim works for the Russian State, but The Daily Beast also raised the possibility that the Macron campaign leaked the e-mails to Wikileaks itself to get ahead of Wikileaks while claiming that the Russians had hacked his campaign which would prove that Macron was a source of fake news, something he's accused RT and Sputnik of being. And certain Clintonist weblogs jumped on The Daily Beast article as showing how Macron had stuck it to the Russians when it really would prove if true that Guillaume Poupard's lone unknown hacker is Macron or more likely one of his campaign staff.

Posted by: Ghostship | Jun 1, 2017 6:00:48 PM | 94

anonymous | Jun 1, 2017 5:34:07 PM | 93

macron the macaroon


Nah, I think you meant Macron the macaron.

Posted by: Ghostship | Jun 1, 2017 6:14:04 PM | 95

id be disappointed if syria didnt kil every french soldier who set foot on syrian soil...wanna-be-napoleon Macron no sooner in office than he elects to go to war against syria.Will he say its to defend the honor of syrian women? to save syria orphans?!

Posted by: brian | Jun 1, 2017 6:28:25 PM | 96

brian | Jun 1, 2017 6:28:25 PM | 96

id be disappointed if syria didnt kil every french soldier who set foot on syrian soil...wanna-be-napoleon Macron no sooner in office than he elects to go to war against syria.Will he say its to defend the honor of syrian women? to save syria orphans?!

Nah, the pbi don't ask to go to war. However, there should be immediate regime change in France if Macron orders an intervention in Syria. Whether that's the French Army conducting a coup, a lone French air force pilot dropping a PGM on the Elysee Palace, the Gendarmerie arresting him, or a mass protest by the French people, I don't care but if he does go to war with Syria, he should be gone from office tout de suite.

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Posted by: Ghostship | Jun 1, 2017 11:38:45 PM | 97

re 85

the macaroon will retain the dictatorship?
Frankly the state of emergency is rather theoretical. It doesn't have any effect. The elections go on as usual. The main effect is to put troops on the street, to reassure the public supposedly. How they would actually intervene, in the case of an incident, is not certain. Some say that Bataclan would not have happened, had the available security forces been allowed to intervene.

It only demonstrates the powerlessness of the Western state to prevent such jihadist attacks (in general, not only France). The West set off the whirlwind, thinking it very clever to exploit jihadis for minor political interests, starting with doing down the Soviets in Afghanistan, but they have no idea how to stop it, now the monster has got out of its cage.

Posted by: Laguerre | Jun 2, 2017 1:17:36 AM | 98

Can't anyone access the Wall Street Journal paywall and copy the article on the Fr special ops and their business in Mosul?

Posted by: Mina | Jun 2, 2017 5:14:00 AM | 99

Laguerre "the state of emergency is rather theoretical. It doesn't have any effect"

unless you are of Arab or African background and live in some suburbs!

Posted by: Mina | Jun 2, 2017 5:14:48 AM | 100

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