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March 26, 2017

Gas From Israel And The Flynn Wiretapping - Behind The Deep-State Infighting Over The Trump Election

What is really behind the deep-state infighting over the U.S. elections and the "wire tapping" of the Trump campaign? Why was the CIA-Neocon axis vehemently lobbying against Trump? What foreign interests and what money is involved in this? Answers to these questions are now emerging.

The former director of the CIA under Clinton, James Woolsey, went to the Wall Street Journal and offered some information (likely some true and some false) on the retired General Flynn and the lobbying businesses he was involved in. Woolsey is an arch-neoconservative. He had worked on the transition team of Trump but got fired over "growing tensions over Trump’s vision for intelligence agencies." Flynn is the former National Security Advisor of Trump who later also got fired. Woolsey was a board member of Flynn's former lobbying company FIG.

Woolsey claims: In September 2016 he took part in a meeting between Flynn and high level Turkish officials, including the Turkish foreign minister and the energy minister who is the son-in-law of the Turkish president Erdogan. During the meeting, Woolsey claims, a brainstorming took place over how the Turkish cult leader Fethullah Gülen could -probably by illegal means- be removed from the U.S. and handed over to Turkey.

Gülen is accused by the Erdogan mafia of initiating a coup attempt against it. The U.S. claims officially that there is no evidence for such an accusation and that Gülen can therefore not be rendered to Turkey. Gülen is an old CIA asset that helped the U.S. deep state to control Turkey.  Erdogan divorced from the Gülen organization after it became useless for his neo-Ottoman project.

Here is the WSJ report on the Woolsey claims and a video clip with parts of his WSJ interview. Woolsey also went on CNN where he repeated his WSJ story.

Flynn was accused by the anti-Trump campaign to have worked for Russia. He had taken several $10,000 for speeches he gave in Moscow. He also, at times, had argued for better U.S. relations with Russia. But Flynn's pro-Russia stand was probably honest. (Or the bribes involved were just smaller than the ones paid by others.) The money he got on the speaker circus was rather small for a man in his position.

Flynn's real corruption was on another issue. After having been fired from the Trump administration, Flynn retroactively filed under the Foreign Agent Registration Act (FARA). His lobbying firm had a contract over $530,000 to work for a company near to the Turkish president Erdogan:

In its filing, Mr. Flynn’s firm said its work from August to November “could be construed to have principally benefited the Republic of Turkey.” The filing said his firm’s fee, $530,000, wasn’t paid by the government but by Inovo BV, a Dutch firm owned by a Turkish businessman, Ekim Alptekin.

This lobbying, not the alleged Flynn-Putin relation, is the real scandal and part of the Trump/CIA/Clinton deep-state in-fighting.

The meeting Woolsey described was under the "Turkish" Flynn contract. The Turkish business man, and owner of Inovo, Ekim Alptekin is a member of the Erdogan gang. But hidden at the very end of the WSJ story is the real key to understand the shady network:

Inovo hired Mr. Flynn on behalf of an Israeli company seeking to export natural gas to Turkey, the filing said, and Mr. Alptekin wanted information on the U.S.-Turkey political climate to advise the gas company about its Turkish investments.

It was the Israeli gas company, not the Alptekin outlet, that drove the issue.

The Leviatan (and Tamar) gas fields in the Mediterranean along the Israeli coast are a huge energy and profit resource IF the gas from them can be exported to Europe. Several companies are involved in the exploration and all are looking for ways to connect the fields to the European gas network. There are (likely true) rumors that huge bribes have been payed in Israel, Jordan and elsewhere to win exploration contracts and to sell the gas. Negotiations between Israel and Turkey over the pipeline have been on and off. They depend on a positive climate towards Israel in the Turkish government which again depends on the often changing political position of the Erdogan gang.

The picture evolving here (lots of sleuthing and sources) is this:

An Israeli company (or whoever is behind it) wants a gas pipeline to Turkey. It hires Flynn and Alptekin to arrange a positive climate for the Leviathan pipeline within the Turkish government. It offers Flynn more than half a million for a little (4-month long) influence work. His job is to create a "friendly atmosphere" for the deal by using his influence in the U.S. to accommodate Erdogan. A major point that is expected from Flynn is to arrange the handover of Gülen, by whatever means, from the U.S. to Erdogan.

After accepting the (lobbying) bribe Flynn-the-whore suddenly changes his former anti-Turkish, pro-Russian, pro-Kurdish political position into a pro-Turkish, neutral-Russian and anti-Kurdish one. (His lobbying firm also makes some smaller payments related to the Clinton email-server scandal. This may be related to links between the Clinton family and the Gülen school empire.) He has a meeting with the Turkish government/Erdogan officials part of which is a discussion of a removal of Gülen to Turkey. He pens a pro Erdogan anti-Gülen op-ed which is published on the day of the election and he denigrates the Pentagon plan to work with the Kurds in Syria.

The NSA, CIA and the FBI are listening to Flynn's conversations with Turkish and Israeli interests. (For the old and long history of such "wiretapping" of Turkish and Israeli connections and various dirty and criminal deals they revealed read and ask Sibel Edmonds.)

The projects which Flynn is involved in, especially removing Gülen, are against the long term interests of the (neoconservative-driven) CIA. Selected tapes of his talks are transcribed and distributed within the anti-Trump campaign. This is the origin of the "wiretapping" of the Trump Tower the U.S. president lamented about. The stuff the CIA dug up about Flynn's dealing was and is used against Trump.

Woolsey is caught up in this as he also worked for Flynn's lobbying firm. (His neocon-pro-Zionist history suggests that he is the senior Israeli watchdog over Flynn in all this.) He is now engaged in damage control and is "coming clean" and selectively leaking his anti-Flynn stuff to exculpate himself. (There is probably also some new, better deal involved that will pay off from him.)

The Israeli-Turkish pipeline and the related deep-state fight are not the only issue involved in the campaign against Trump. There are also British interests and British intelligence involvement especially with the accusations against Russia of "hacking" of the DNC. If and how these fit in with above has not yet been revealed.

Posted by b on March 26, 2017 at 07:06 AM | Permalink

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The last paragraph, how the rats desert the sinking ship? Have to love this intrigue in today's atmosphere, never a dull moment, if you can maneuver through all the B.S.? What has this country come to be today?

Posted by: Eugene | Mar 26, 2017 7:27:03 AM | 1

If I read this right, it seems the usual angle used by the msm, deep state etc about Russia and Flynn was just a smokescreen....

Posted by: notlurking | Mar 26, 2017 8:09:49 AM | 2

Quick note.

I think I prefer the term "shadow government" (also, as opposed to "ostensible government") to the term "deep state". This is for several rather small reasons that I will explain at some time.

I also think opposition to this shadow government ("SG") is the true definition of social justice advocacy. And that this SG is huge, and consists of some combination of rich financial, security, and media managers and activists. And that the SG oligarchs really hate the commoners, and prefer to see them suffer.

Posted by: blues | Mar 26, 2017 8:10:56 AM | 3

A lot to digest in this article....nice work as usual b........

Posted by: notlurking | Mar 26, 2017 8:20:25 AM | 4

thanks for wading through all this slime b. have a shower and wash their filth right out of your hair. this is all just the tip of the nsa/dnc/cia iceberg of deceit and vileness. its all just the 'grand game'. these creatures just take the money where they can get it, adopt whatever position their employers defend.

cannot everyone else see that all of this is wrapped around oil and gas? if there were no connection at all between the continued, increasing burning of fossil fuels and the radical change of our earth's enviroment, the ability - or just the attempts to try - to corner the production, distribution and marketing - not to mention the requisite surface land atop of petrocarbons themselves - is in itself more than enough reason to abandon a 'resource' that's so easily made scarce by the usual subjects, and to avail ourselves instead of our abundant solar resource to provide energy in abundance for all our earth's peoples.

israel, turkey, saudi arabia, qatar ... the us, the uk, france ... what a gang of truly vile players inflicting death, devastation, destruction, and deceit upon us all.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 26, 2017 8:24:52 AM | 5

Methinks GCHQ protesteth too much, remember this before the Iraqi invasion... "Ten years ago, a young Mandarin specialist at GCHQ, the government's surveillance centre in Cheltenham, did something extraordinary. Katharine Gun, a shy and studious 28-year-old who spent her days listening in to obscure Chinese intercepts, decided to tell the world about a secret plan by the US government to spy on the United Nations.

She had received an email in her inbox asking her and her colleagues to help in a vast intelligence "surge" designed to secure a UN resolution to send troops into Iraq. She was horrified and leaked the email to the Observer. As a result of the story the paper published 10 years ago this weekend, she was arrested, lost her job and faced trial under the Official Secrets Act.

The memo from Frank Koza, chief of staff at the "regional targets" section of the National Security Agency, GCHQ's sister organisation in the US, remains shocking in its implications for British sovereignty. Koza was in effect issuing a direct order to the employees of a UK security agency to gather "the whole gamut of information that could give US policymakers an edge in obtaining results favourable to US goals or to head off surprises". This included a particular focus on the "swing nations" on the security council, Angola, Cameroon, Chile, Bulgaria and Guinea, "as well as extra focus on Pakistan UN matters".https://www.theguardian.com/world/2013/mar/03/katharine-gun-iraq-war-whistleblower

Posted by: harrylawh | Mar 26, 2017 8:31:13 AM | 6

Judge Napolitano said.. Obama would not have needed a warrant to authorize surveillance on Trump. Obama was the president and as such enjoyed authority under the Foreign Intelligence Surveillance Act to order surveillance on any person in America, without suspicion, probable cause or a warrant. And..
Sources have told me that the British foreign surveillance service, the Government Communications Headquarters, known as GCHQ, most likely provided Obama with transcripts of Trump’s calls. The NSA has given GCHQ full 24/7 access to its computers, so GCHQ – a foreign intelligence agency that, like the NSA, operates outside our constitutional norms – has the digital versions of all electronic communications made in America in 2016, including Trump’s. So by bypassing all American intelligence services, Obama would have had access to what he wanted with no Obama administration fingerprints.
http://original.antiwar.com/andrew-p-napolitano/2017/03/18/did-obama-spy-on-trump/

Posted by: harrylawh | Mar 26, 2017 9:00:13 AM | 7

Please, someone, where is Larry Johnson? His blog, noquarterusa.net is no more, not even referenced anymore if you try to access it, what happened? He was the person who first mentioned GCHQ in relation to the wiretaps thing, on national TV, remember? This does not have to be published, just someone find out where this guy is, why his blog has just disappeared? Thanks.

Posted by: sagesgamagain | Mar 26, 2017 9:04:20 AM | 8

sagesgamagain 8

Over at SST blog, Pat Lang who knows Johnson said something about him closing down his site.
That was a week or two ago I think.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 9:11:53 AM | 9

I guess the Israeli's would have thought they were getting bang for their buck when Flynn put Iran "on notice".

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 9:13:17 AM | 10

Didn't the head of GCHQ resign earlier this year? To spend more time with his family...?

Posted by: Trixie from Dixie | Mar 26, 2017 9:13:24 AM | 11

No, really, GCHQ/MI6 > CIA/FBI >Dems/DNC/GOP warmongers (McCain, Lindsey, etc) & PNAC/neocons, etc, nah, not a chance ... /snark

Interesting possibilities re the specific underlying motivations suggested, amongst others already known.

@ Posted by: sagesgamagain | Mar 26, 2017 9:04:20 AM | 8

The parent domain, www.noquarterusa.net, has been flushed since 30 Jan 2017. The parent domain has been deregistered, DNS poisoned or routing blackholed, etc, haven't verified/checked specifically which ...
The Blog has cached entries up until 18 Mar 2017, follow below link, while it's still there:

https://web.archive.org/web/20170318085800/http://www.noquarterusa.net/blog/

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 9:24:31 AM | 12

the Alexandria, Arlington, McLean nexus has been the preeminent hogs trough for filthy lucre since 911,
and the souless shitbags frequenting this suburban parish, absolved of all sin by imperial injunction,
will no doubt be the death of all of us.

it's a death cult, after all. the corruption and infighting's only symptomatic, the contagion's lethal.

Posted by: john | Mar 26, 2017 9:32:55 AM | 13

@ Posted by: Trixie from Dixie | Mar 26, 2017 9:13:24 AM | 11

As I recall, after the GCHQ claims went TV 'live' by Napolitano on FOXNews, we had the GCHQ Denial-Non-Denial, which in fact was a 'confirmation' given it was official and very carefully crafted, then 3 days later head GCHQ resigned for that old chestnut of 'family reasons', subsequently UK Foreign Minister, all round fool, Boris Johnson has been dispatched to grovel before the Trump-faction, who know whats been going on, and not just recently, IMHO, as posted previously, on occasion.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 9:37:45 AM | 14

I believe there was to be a movie about Katharin Gun called 'Official Secrets'. Production got suspended for some reason.

Posted by: dh | Mar 26, 2017 9:57:00 AM | 15

These creeps have no interested in governing or running a country as it were.
The money to be looted hereby is small potatoes.

They are extremely interested in stealing resources in pursuit of massive personal wealth.
Anything to the contrary (like job creation or economics) is pretense - theater to distract the commons.

The most distracted people are in the majority which cling to tv news and highly touted newspapers.
Government is simply a means for these creeps to engage in and facilitate the biggest oil and gas deals.

By deals, I mean the art of the steal. If you can't steal it easily, use the military to foment chaos and then steal it.

Posted by: fast freddy | Mar 26, 2017 10:04:38 AM | 16

Johnson's Ex-intel, and claimed three Intel sources, last article was 18 Mar17 and was a reply to a 'hit piece' by NYT on Napolitano & Johnson published 17Mar17. Even though the other content is still in the wayback cache, that article, specifically, has been flushed ...

The 17Mar17 NYT article is below, its heavily slanted, derogatory and all about diminishing/denial ... you be the 'Judge' ... however, even given the slant, there are some key recap nuggets in amongst the chaff :

Fox's Andrew Napolitano Stirred the Pot for Trump's British Tempest

Mar 17 2017, NYT

... The saga began on Tuesday on “Fox & Friends,” the chummy morning show, where Mr. Napolitano made a bizarre and unsupported accusation: Citing three unnamed sources, he said that Britain’s top spy agency had wiretapped Mr. Trump on behalf of President Barack Obama during last year’s campaign.

Cable news blather, especially at that hour, usually vanishes at the commercial break. But on Thursday, Mr. Trump’s press secretary, Sean Spicer, repeated the claim from the White House podium, infuriating British officials.

On Friday, Fox News was forced to disavow Mr. Napolitano’s remarks. “Fox News cannot confirm Judge Napolitano’s commentary,” the anchor Shepard Smith said on-air. “Fox News knows of no evidence of any kind that the now-president of the United States was surveilled at any time, any way. Full stop.”

The terse declaration boosted the credibility of Fox News’s newsroom, which is often attacked as biased, but also put it in the awkward position of repudiating one of its featured contributors. And it could threaten the cozy dynamic between Mr. Trump, a frequent Fox viewer, and the network’s conservative hosts...

A rather remarkable unequivocally unambiguous denial of both Napolitano and the 'claims', 'Full stop!' ?!
Ahem, as previously, would tend to see that as an actual, confirmation, in partnership with the extraordinary GCHQ official statement, as opposed to the ubiquitous 'No comment on matters of National Security', and subsequent coincidental(?) resignation, etc .... YMMV ;)

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 10:30:47 AM | 17

Ya all have to distinguish two campaigns:

1. The Clinton/Obama run against Trump after the DNC email release. This is the "Russian hacking" that was neither a hack nor had anything to do with Russia. GHCQ and other British services were involved in this campaign. They organized the Steele anti-Trump information operation and they organized the other elements of the anti-Russia campaign.
No evidence has been shown that this campaign is anything but a sham. there is nothing that proves any Russian involvement. The GHCQ head has been fired over this.

(a. Larry Johnson shut down his noquarterusa.net domain himself. A rational decision. He was made an offer "he could not refuse" after blowing the whistle on the British involvement.)
(b. Why Clinton/Obama/Brennan involved the Brits is not clear yet. Probably simply to run it outside of the leaky U.S. services and to disguise the real people behind it.)

2. The Israeli gas campaign involving Flynn and Turkey. This one seems independent of the first one but it delivered the transcripts that would be used against Trump. Distributing these transcripts was probably a rogue action outside of the plan under 1.)

If and how these two campaigns meet is not yet unknown. It think it is helpful to distinguish them if only to make sense of what happened.

Posted by: b | Mar 26, 2017 10:49:16 AM | 18

There was some talk of FISA earlier over the Trump wire tapping. Possibly that would tie into Flynn/Turkey?

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 11:13:03 AM | 19

Larry Johnson used to appear on RT programs. I guess no more... no doubt, based on "the offer he could not refuse."
The truth cannot be known!
Also, this: https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/25/how-us-flooded-the-world-with-psyops/

Posted by: anonymous | Mar 26, 2017 11:26:50 AM | 20

@ b

You have mail, Poor Poet, kameraden ;)

1. b. Practice since inception, is have other 5-Eye nation agency do the collection to bypass domestic laws & limits of specifics of presidential authorities (EO), collection ends up in the 'shared' databases available to all 5-Eyes. Almost zero risk re proof if exposed 'cause no official record nor evidentiary trail 'cause TS/SI/Compartmented, added bonus, cannot BE exposed, as would divulge the true scope and nature of Supra-National/Supra-Legal global operations of 5-Eyes since inception, a Pandora's Box/Can of Worms. House & Senate Intel committees know this and cannot risk exposure of that aspect of 'National Security', ever, or the Empire is in trouble.

2. The faux extended campaign re the MI6 'fabricated to order' serialized memos, the #Fake 'Dossier', the 'Intelligence Report' that never was, even though widely covertly distributed and briefed to media/Congress/donors/patrons, never took off because it was a farce and would never survive public scrutiny ... in desperation they released thru Buzzfeed ... no traction, a fraud ... MSM maintains the 'Russia' narrative and just goes with false repetition regardless, damn facts ... same with the 'Election Hacking' that never was, likely CIA/NSA/FBI assisted by and with false attribution by Crowdstrike (Atlantic Council/Dem/DNC/Google/Soros/Ex-FBI cyber/etc)

So, go with the unrelated Israel/Flynn/Turkey material as there is 'meat on those bones', to take down the NSC appointment's 'scalp' and further delegitimize Trump-faction, without revealing the true reasons why, as that is undesirable re Israel/PNAC/etc, but heavily imply & openly conflate with the 'Russia' narrative publicly ... bonus, AIPAC beholden Congress critters are 'conflicted' re any public discussion of the specifics of the compromising material re 2 same as for 1b ... catch-22 re using it 'publicly' to attack or defend... tricky situ either way re defending Trump-faction without exposing many 'worms' publicly ... YMMV

Then of course there is TPP, Globalists/Atlanticists, EU, NATO funding/downgrading, wrong 'vetted' candidate won, & so on ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 11:38:08 AM | 21

@ b

You have mail, Poor Poet, kameraden ;)

1. b. Practice since inception, is have other 5-Eye nation agency do the collection to bypass domestic laws & limits of specifics of presidential authorities (EO), collection ends up in the 'shared' databases available to all 5-Eyes. Almost zero risk re proof if exposed 'cause no official record nor evidentiary trail 'cause TS/SI/Compartmented, added bonus, cannot BE exposed, as would divulge the true scope and nature of Supra-National/Supra-Legal global operations of 5-Eyes since inception, a Pandora's Box/Can of Worms. House & Senate Intel committees know this and cannot risk exposure of that aspect of 'National Security', ever, or the Empire is in trouble.

2. The faux extended campaign re the MI6 'fabricated to order' serialized memos, the #Fake 'Dossier', the 'Intelligence Report' that never was, even though widely covertly distributed and briefed to media/Congress/donors/patrons, never took off because it was a farce and would never survive public scrutiny ... in desperation they released thru Buzzfeed ... no traction, a fraud ... MSM maintains the 'Russia' narrative and just goes with false repetition regardless, damn facts ... same with the 'Election Hacking' that never was, likely CIA/NSA/FBI assisted by and with false attribution by Crowdstrike (Atlantic Council/Dem/DNC/Google/Soros/Ex-FBI cyber/etc)

So, go with the unrelated Israel/Flynn/Turkey material as there is 'meat on those bones', to take down the NSC appointment's 'scalp' and further delegitimize Trump-faction, without revealing the true reasons why, as that is undesirable re Israel/PNAC/etc, but heavily imply & openly conflate with the 'Russia' narrative publicly ... bonus, AIPAC beholden Congress critters are 'conflicted' re any public discussion of the specifics of the compromising material re 2 same as for 1b ... catch-22 re using it 'publicly' to attack or defend... tricky situ either way re defending Trump-faction without exposing many 'worms' publicly ... YMMV

Then of course there is TPP, Globalists/Atlanticists, EU, NATO funding/downgrading, wrong 'vetted' candidate won, & so on ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 11:38:09 AM | 22

amazing stuff, thanks b.

btw, I just downloaded and installed firefox (was using chrome) because Outraged's wayback machine link made me scroll back and forth. for others having the same issue you should know that firefox automatically uses a reader mode to overcome that typepad weirdness.

not calling you out Outraged, just sayin.

Posted by: dan of steele | Mar 26, 2017 11:41:04 AM | 23

#10 / @Peter AU - You beat me to it surmising that Flynn's hardline position against Iran now clearly seems to have a monetary incentive vis a vis Israeli interests behind it.

On a minor note, it's unfortunate that a faulty column width setting makes this article very hard to read.

Posted by: WorldBLee | Mar 26, 2017 11:44:30 AM | 24

From another angle, orthogonal or ...?

Michael Flynn Junior is the son of M. Flynn senior … I'm supposing.

Flynn was known for spreading pro-Trump messages online, though his Twitter activity was a source of controversy due to his tendency to push
ultra right-wing stories which included fake news and conspiracy theories. Flynn had this in common with his son and business partner, Michael Flynn Jr.,
who deleted his account during the weekend.
(Jan 21 2017.)

http://www.mediaite.com/online/trump-advisor-michael-flynn-deletes-twitter-profile-a-day-after-sons-account-shuts-down/

Idk re. deleted account, but Junior, if him, has been all over twitter pushing PizzaGate big time, he is quoted all over. Prompting major damage control:

Salon

Slate attempts debunk:

http://www.slate.com/blogs/the_slatest/2016/12/05/michael_flynn_jr_is_tweeting_about_how_debunked_pizzagate_is_a_legit_thing.html

see also http://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-38231532


Posted by: Noirette | Mar 26, 2017 11:50:19 AM | 25

My sincere apologies dan of steele & all.

Link showed & tested 'clean' in preview (& always do), wouldn't display properly in normal enclosed link due to twin/serialized 'http/s' ... will note for future format of wayback links displayed ... . Peace :)

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 11:50:31 AM | 26

please explain again this wide-column problem and how to fix it thanks

Posted by: boilo | Mar 26, 2017 12:08:50 PM | 27

@17 Outraged, add this morsel to the Napolitano story. The silencing of Judge Nap may have everything to do with Rupert Murdoch's attempt at acquiring Sky News - http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/was-murdochs-sky-bid-behind-andrew-napolitanos-fox-news-benching-988621

And b, you said Larry received an offer he couldn't refuse. It damn well better be a good offer only b/c Larry has built one helluva following AND his noquarter site gives him free reign to inform an alt news audience on issues he has a solid resume to write about. I, for one, will miss his take on the issues of the day. When the site first went dark I thought my PC was infected w/some sort of 'ware' but learned later the site was down. He's an asset when it comes to helping folks understand what's happening in the shadows.

About Flynn and the Gülen caper, this news, which broke on Wednesday, maybe Thursday, was treated by news outlets kinda like an 'oh, btw' story. After reading your post, I can see why. Of course Flynn was shown the door for 'lying to the VP'. After all, isn't Pence a hawk?

This is going to be an interesting week. Nunes cancelled the Brennan/Clapper/Yates show that was to be held on Monday by the House Intel committee. He decided to hold a closed door session with Comey and Rogers instead. How I'd love to be a fly on the wall during this meeting. Whew! You just know smarmy, smart ass Comey just got his scrotum handed to him when Nunes went public, immediately, on what facts the whistleblower showed him. After all, Comey preening his feathers during Monday's hearing was all show...oohhh I have permission to tell you, the House Intel committee that we are investigating Trump and Trump was never wiretapped blah, blah, blah. I believe Mr. Comey was not only blindsided by Nunes, but he was given all of the leeway in the world to show his ass for all to see. Two days later, Nunes cold cocks him.

Posted by: h | Mar 26, 2017 12:16:35 PM | 28

dan of steele 22

Just downloaded fire fox. Fixes the page nicely. Thanks.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 12:18:36 PM | 29

b | Mar 26, 2017 10:49:16 AM | 18
There is a simpler explanation for GCHQ's involvement. They were monitoring certain Russians and some Americans who happened to be Trump associates communicated with those Russians, so GCHQ hoovered up those communications and forwarded them to the NSA because Americans were involved. So, the GCHQ statement was correct in that they weren't asked to monitor Trump and they didn't "wire tap" Trump either because the tap was nowhere near Trump. So no British conspiracy but British bureaucratic jobsworths going about their business probably not even interested in who the Americans were because "that's the NSA's job".

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 26, 2017 12:23:27 PM | 30

Great post, b.

Us tin-foil-hat types are still hoping for the day one of these leaks expose the deep Clinton camp involvement with Leviathan gas interests and how that fed into the rabid neocon stance on Syria. We all know Bush/Cheney were in their pocket, too. Now we got Woolsey/Flynn scrambling to peddle Israeli influence after the Israeli's preferred candidate - Clinton - goes down in flames. Then we got Qatar interfering with our political process for years to get 'Anti-Assad/Qatar-pipeline friendly' forces to finish off Syria.

ALL of these players want/need Iran destroyed and Iraq/Syria perpetually destabilized so none of that damn North/South Pars Iranian gas gets to Europe ahead of them.

I know some people are still adamant that the Syrian war is not about pipelines, but the glare from the tin-foil has to be quite blinding by now.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Mar 26, 2017 12:31:07 PM | 31

Paveyway 29

Each of the "friends of Syria" seemed to have the own reasons or set of reasons for wanting to destroy Syria some overlapping.
Quatar - piplines and destroy Shia/Iran
Saudi - perhaps a bit of pipeline but mainly to target Iran
Israel - pipelines? destroy Shia/Iran
Turkey - Territorial expantion

Not doubt there's many more.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 12:41:00 PM | 32

thanks b... fascinating stuff.. i look forward to the possible revelations to follow..

Posted by: james | Mar 26, 2017 12:41:08 PM | 33

And so here in Ameri$$$$a, on a Sunday morning before 9:30 am I have received two robo-calls telling me to call 855 658 3663 because my Apple devices have all their cloud data compromised.

So all this infighting is about the level of depravity our society devolves to..........how nice............/snark

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 26, 2017 12:42:53 PM | 34

@29 paveway... quote "know some people are still adamant that the Syrian war is not about pipelines, but the glare from the tin-foil has to be quite blinding by now." that would be pat lang over at sst and his gang of sycophants who label anyone offering these ideas as 'economic determinists', or 'anti-americans'.. give new meaning to the term'head up his ass'..

Posted by: james | Mar 26, 2017 12:44:49 PM | 35

That gas field is half the reason of the Syrian civil war, the 3/4 reason of Israels useless "missile defence" set ups, and the full reason of the upcoming war in lebanon, and why they keep saying they will target all of Lebanon this time, and Lebanese Army.

My 2 cents, trump is just the schmuck in line to deal with something planned years ago.

The more the smoke settles the more it shows trump is just another puppet ready to sell his ass for elites

Posted by: Deebo | Mar 26, 2017 12:46:38 PM | 36

Interestingly, John Kerry and Hillary Clinton seem to somehow orbit around all this, too.

John Kerry had (has?) holdings in one of the major companies seeking special dispensation to drill in the Leviathan and Tamar fields, and he is said to have been the catalyst behind Netanyahu's strange decision to go over the heads of the Israeli parliament in giving permits to the oil companies. This happened about a year and a half ago, if I recall correctly.
***************
John Kerry Held Up to $1m in Noble Energy Stock
As Israel prepares to move forward with a compromise deal over its natural gas reserves, website claims Kerry held stocks in key monopoly partner; Kerry had in the past pressured Netanyahu to resolve gas dispute:

http://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/business/.premium-1.662924
**************

And Hillary has ties to Gulen, a fact which came out in the Podesta emails. (Bill Clinton was or is on the board of another sharia private school group that operates globally, but that one is funded by Saudi Arabia, and is not the same school system as Gulen runs. I'm not going to link to the Bill Clinton stuff, although that might be relevant, as well.)

On Hillary:
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New Ties Emerge Between Clinton And Mysterious Islamic Cleric

http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/
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Posted by: teri | Mar 26, 2017 1:04:39 PM | 37

The Slate story about the communication between Trump's email server and Alfabank in Russia is bullshit. There is no way anyone could legally gain access to the information.

Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?

In late spring, this community of malware hunters placed itself in a high state of alarm. Word arrived that Russian hackers had infiltrated the servers of the Democratic National Committee, an attack persuasively detailed by the respected cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike. The computer scientists posited a logical hypothesis, which they set out to rigorously test: If the Russians were worming their way into the DNC, they might very well be attacking other entities central to the presidential campaign, including Donald Trump’s many servers. “We wanted to help defend both campaigns, because we wanted to preserve the integrity of the election,” says one of the academics, who works at a university that asked him not to speak with reporters because of the sensitive nature of his work.


The story is important because according to Louise Mensch this "discovery" was what allowed the Obama administration to get the FISA court ruling to spy on the Trump campaign.

EXCLUSIVE: FBI ‘Granted FISA Warrant’ Covering Trump Camp’s Ties To Russia

Two separate sources with links to the counter-intelligence community have confirmed to Heat Street that the FBI sought, and was granted, a FISA court warrant in October, giving counter-intelligence permission to examine the activities of ‘U.S. persons’ in Donald Trump’s campaign with ties to Russia.

Contrary to earlier reporting in the New York Times, which cited FBI sources as saying that the agency did not believe that the private server in Donald Trump’s Trump Tower which was connected to a Russian bank had any nefarious purpose, the FBI’s counter-intelligence arm, sources say, re-drew an earlier FISA court request around possible financial and banking offenses related to the server. The first request, which, sources say, named Trump, was denied back in June, but the second was drawn more narrowly and was granted in October after evidence was presented of a server, possibly related to the Trump campaign, and its alleged links to two banks; SVB Bank and Russia’s Alfa Bank. While the Times story speaks of metadata, sources suggest that a FISA warrant was granted to look at the full content of emails and other related documents that may concern US persons.

How did this happen?

Someone in the Deep State decided to do a dragnet search for any communication between domains registered to Trump and servers in Russia. We know that the NSA collects and stores all communications crossing U.S. borders. As part of the data collection they have a database of all DNS requests. This data was data mined to find any sign of communication that could be used to argue for more surveillance.

I do not know if the search was done inside the NSA or outsourced to a trusted commercial partner. (CrowdStrike maybe.) This dragnet found some communication between a Russian bank and a Trump mail server. Most likely this was just random noise because of some error or misconfuguration. But it does not matter; this was the needle in the haystack they needed to nail Trump.

The data was first released anonymously by someone named TeaLeaves or Lea Vestea, first through the Invisible Internet Project (I2P) eepsite gdd.i2p, then more and more explicitly on the public internet. Very soon the publications went from technical data to pro-Ukrainian rants about Russia: NATO fought the Cold War and kept Europe free. Does this account explain why the US now debates whether to surrender a war it has already won?

The whole set of confidential DNS logs finally appeared on the site of L. Jean Camp, Professor of Informatics at the Indiana University. It may be that Tea Leaves is some leaker inside the NSA. Others have speculated that she is CrowdStrike. I find it likely that Tea Leaves is Lea Vestea is actually L. Jean Camp.

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 26, 2017 1:04:43 PM | 38

Sending Gulen to Turkey would expose the likely CIA involvement in the coup attempt. It would expose the CIA links to the Turkish Deep State used in the Syria War. It would expose the flow of money directed by the CIA from many sources into the Syria War. It would expose the centrality of the Syria War to the CIA, and it might even expose the real reasons for the CIA's devotion to that war.

All that had to be hidden. Flynn threatened it, not least because he was part of the internal opposition to the CIA project. That he is corrupt and a nut is a useful fact for removing him, not the reason.

Posted by: Mark Thomason | Mar 26, 2017 2:01:15 PM | 39

B,

Flynn is not a "former general". He's a retired general; still an officer of the U.S. army. As you know, former and retired are different, and their differences have huge implications.

Posted by: Dragon | Mar 26, 2017 2:24:53 PM | 40

Edited a malformed comment. Is the format of the threat ok again?

(Can't check myself. My browser does not mess up, even when links are malformed)

Posted by: b | Mar 26, 2017 3:19:46 PM | 41

There will be a referendum this year for Kurdish independence in Iraq: Barzani
https://goo.gl/X3RYru

Syrian Kurds call for independence or confederation in Geneva
https://goo.gl/ePdoL8

US/Israel/Saudis project of Balkanization of Syria/Iraq is going at full throttle. Even if Syria's Kurds remain in Syria, their demands show they are going after de-facto independence (check their manifesto) with weak central power in Damascus. I.e. the same thing US did in Iraq and Lebanon before - puppets with a lot of power, and weak central government. That makes country paralyzed and impotent, heavily dependent on what US says (with US bases in Kurdistan too, with Damascus having no say about it).

Posted by: Harry | Mar 26, 2017 3:34:46 PM | 42

b@41 - Yes, fine now. Thanks. You might want to put archive.org on your banned link list, b. We can always use a URL shortener to post links to archive.org content. That's not directed at Outraged by any means. It's for my benefit the next time I forget how the links to it break your formatting and attempt to post that in one of my messages. I've done this more than once here by accident.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Mar 26, 2017 4:00:57 PM | 43

So I had another three robo-calls, exactly the same, while I was out. Anyone else in Ameri$$$a so lucky?

Posted by: psychohistorian | Mar 26, 2017 4:17:33 PM | 44

james@35 - Heh heh... C'mon James, be nice - you America hater. You know the operational risks of posting on SST. Helmet + flak jacket + sturdy boots for a hasty retreat. Would you rather wear knee-pads? No, I didn't think so...

Posted by: PavewayIV | Mar 26, 2017 4:54:07 PM | 45

psychohistorian@44 - Not personally, but I know certain AT&T/iPhone area codes are getting bombed as reported by grumpy relatives. Words could not describe the special hell I would prepare for the people responsible for any kind of robo-calls.

Posted by: PavewayIV | Mar 26, 2017 4:58:38 PM | 46

@ Posted by: h | Mar 26, 2017 12:16:35 PM | 28

Oh, almost certainly, given Murdock is not a politically aligned/supporter of the Trump-faction, yet is constrained re media coverage to be obviously less rabid than the rest of owned/controlled MSM in this situ, due to GOP base being overwhelming majority of FOX viewers/revenue ... the quoted unnecessarily 'over the top' statement on air by FOX, re Napolitano/Johnson/GCHQ/'wire-tapping' highly probably indicates Murdock corporations were given an offer 'They couldn't refuse' from GCHQ/MI6, via HM government, and a VERY short time to do so, too ?

Gulen is a treasure trove of past nefarious activities as a lifelong covert asset, not to mention his former(?) organization and associates, so any possibility of being returned to Turkey, given those activities, and the July coup ?, and/or simply being publicly exposed, would be anathema to the CIA/MI6/NATO and the 0.01% ...

Hm, so many concurrent parallel & intertwined detrimental threads, that cannot possibly be allowed to be publicly exposed, by so many 'players'.

Also, more generally, Bloc trade treaty patrons/beneficiaries as opposed to Bilateral trade treaties, too ...

@ Posted by: PavewayIV | Mar 26, 2017 12:31:07 PM | 31

Not always merely or primarily about profit, also Denial of same and/or access/control to others States/Blocs ... even if no actual $ profit for the Empire ... Geopolitics motivations re the 'New Great Game Mk2'.

@ Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 26, 2017 1:04:43 PM | 38

There is some sound suspicion/indications that communications between trump server/s and Russia were actually fabricated to create a fraudulent 'Forensic' evidentiary trail to be found, therefore manufacturing the minimum evidence threshold required to justify a FISA grant or CI surveillance/investigation ... planting fabricated false forensic evidence, especially compromising 'digital data' is a long practiced CIA/FBI technique, let alone other state actors ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 26, 2017 5:46:46 PM | 47

Long but good read by Robert Parry.

https://consortiumnews.com/2017/03/25/how-us-flooded-the-world-with-psyops/

Thanks b

Posted by: jo6pac | Mar 26, 2017 5:47:47 PM | 48

@b | Mar 26, 2017 3:19:46 PM | 41

Installed 4 browsers, O/S Winxp.

Opera 1.18 - no malfunction
Opera 36.0 - malfunction
Yendex (latest version) - no malfunction
Firefox 50.1.0 - no malfunction

It look like Opera 36.0 version and above, Google's Chrome
platform malfunctions, not sure other Browsers..

Posted by: OJS | Mar 26, 2017 5:51:18 PM | 49

Correction!

Yendex (latest version) - malfunction

Posted by: OJS | Mar 26, 2017 5:57:50 PM | 50

b, on the formatting ...

1. please do not block any more domain links

to other posters

2. please do not use third-party, man-in-the-middle 'url-shorteners'

an observation

3. the world's largest tracking/datamining organization creates its own browser and it quickly becomes number one worldwide : google chrome. there's a reason they call us sheeple.

further on our 'sheeple' aspect ...

4. people actually pay top dollar to be spied upon : apple spiphones. google operated androids ... how's that for a stick-it-to-the-rubes inside-joke name? ... as well, of course. a bargain. again, number one worldwide.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 26, 2017 7:08:19 PM | 51

Outstanding investigative and analytic work. Kudos. My hat is off to you even if it proves incorrect.

Posted by: Bruce Ballai | Mar 26, 2017 7:48:33 PM | 52

Sure hope I don't inadvertently post a bad link. Wow!

Posted by: Morongobill | Mar 26, 2017 8:08:33 PM | 53

@45 paveway... lol... yeah, but i am always shocked at how indoctrinated some are, even if they claim to be seeking some form of truth on the world stage..

Posted by: james | Mar 26, 2017 8:52:09 PM | 54

@apple spiphones. Covered it well jfl.

FBI vs Spiphone? Great piece of psyops.
Spiphone lives within the heart of the beast, does not show up on funding for NGO's/"philanthrapist" causes, competes with Gates, Google ect, and it's not co-opted.... mmm

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 26, 2017 8:53:01 PM | 55

Rothschild Economist 2017 cover
https://vigilantcitizen.com/vigilantreport/economists-world-2017-makes-grim-predictions-using-symbolic-tarot-cards/

Posted by: Brad | Mar 26, 2017 9:22:47 PM | 56

@ 51

Agreed. Breaking the format has been a long bitch from the blogs all along. Plenty of fixes all around both good and bad.

Posted by: Forest | Mar 26, 2017 10:33:41 PM | 57

Pardon me - but is it not just about always the fucking Jews?

The Oded Yinon plan, the Kalergi plan...

and yet this magic word 'antisemite'... insulates global, organized Jewry from being accused- FAIRLY - of all manner of warmongering and crimes.


So I'm an anti-Semite? Okay. In Abe Foxman's sense, sure.

We have to talk about Jewish power, period, if we ever eant to discuss why Russia and Syria are targeted by Vichy Washington.

Posted by: Mike Keleher | Mar 26, 2017 11:29:44 PM | 58

@58 Mike Keleher

zionism mike. the zionists have convinced you they are 'the jews'. the most cursory check brings up folks like Lawrence Davidson and Richard Falk and Max Blumenthal ... zionists are a subset of 'the jews'. due to the love and charity heaped upon 'the jews' by christians over the years, 'the jews' are hesitant to criticize each other ... but not all of them are. there need to be more. i need to be a better person ... maybe even you do, too, although i don't know that for sure.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 26, 2017 11:49:39 PM | 59

So some general is calling for 5000 more troops for Afghanistan. Protect those poppies, Langley needs paint!

Taking a step back, we who live in the USA are now treated to a live display of the CIA propaganda machine in action. For so have we forsaken our only world that we have nailed ourselves to our own cross, as the seams of the veil of silence are splitting, wearing thinner every day.

Looking at the Turks in Europe mounting their campaign rallies and the proliferation of Gulen's schools elsewhere, do they not converge upon the same goal, that is Turkish influence? So a Turk businessman in Holland drops 500k on Flynn to massage the system in favor of an Israeli-Turk pipeline to Europe?

So Russian competition for gas sales to Europe are fastidiously poisoned by the extended CIA family. This can't be a front door venture, no. The public must be prepped to support the final carbon-based energy system, those who can't be bought off are rubbed out, Yemen needs to be turned into another weapons platform to protect the ships coming through the Red Sea, and infrastructure built in Somalia and Ethiopia to increase the rate of extraction of Africa's riches. The Russo-Atlantic-Sino triad is open for business. The American Dream is one paycheck from broke.

So can our CIA and Propaganda Foundations manage to spin all of these moving parts into a coherent pretext for consent, or are they just calling it in as they did with Gulf of Tonkin and Iraq WMD?

US Troops established an airhead in Syria, so it looks like we'll be terraforming Raqqah into the new Atlantic capital of the Middle East. Show those Iranians, boy! Syria is kebabs.

Why is Juan McCain on a world tour of disinformation? Is he carrying around the moneybags himself, because everyone else a bit swamped at the moment?

Posted by: stumpy | Mar 27, 2017 1:24:40 AM | 60

@58 mike... careful.. you don't want to be immediately perceived as some hasbara shit artist, lol..

Posted by: james | Mar 27, 2017 2:01:04 AM | 61

Mike Keleher 58

The jews/Zionists are smart. Lots of Jewish names in science and medicine. If you think the Jews are smart, think on the Magna Carta for awhile. Anglos... five-eyes. Take a look at the number of NGO's that have democracy or similar rainbow slogans in their blurb.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 27, 2017 2:20:13 AM | 62

We have been hearing claims about the ISR-TUR pipeline for many years now, but one obvious question that nobody seems to pose is this: if these gas reserves offshore Israel are so lucrative, then what has been preventing the US-EU-ISR-TUR Axis and their energy conglomerates from moving ahead with the project? I can only think of two reasons. a) The reserves are not that great, the undersea route is too challenging which means that for the project to be at all feasible, then EU subsidies are required. and b) The pipeline will have to pass offshore Syria/Lebanon and it will require their permission (yet one more reason for the anti-Assad Jihad)

Posted by: Stavros H | Mar 27, 2017 6:14:08 AM | 63

stumpy @ 60

what you describe is the general itinerary for chaos uncle sam has pursued for decades. resources are a nice perk if invasion and/or occupation can deliver them, but the basic depraved approach is far more misanthropic in my opinion. if the imperial powers would cease meddling in the Middle East, mothball their military installations, and neuter that fucking annoying little forward operating base called Israel, a pan-Arabic nation would arise from the ashes and, in say fifteen or twenty years, transform into a formidable technological and creative force...

...and i long for that day when technology and spirituality consummate their most mutually beneficent equilibrium.

Posted by: john | Mar 27, 2017 6:42:44 AM | 64

b, as usual fantastic job of uncovering some of the endless Middle East/Israel/Turkey/Gas for Geopolitics/Neocons/CIA/FBI/GHCQ and the list goes on and on..

Whatever happened to Putin threats exposing Erdogan and co for oil merchanting with ISIS in the aftermath of Russian plane shutdown, one wonders!?..
Mullah Gulen has been one of the oldest NATO/Gladia/CIA operative tools over, arguably, 50 years, they are not gonna give him so easily, one can concur..
Erdogan could have been exposed and silenced for good by anyone (CIA/Putin/BND/MI6/Mossad) yet they let him bark cause he has been there at the expense of the secular foundations of Turkish state as Ataturk's secular republic could have never folded... How could Erdogan be still around despite tons of actions, criminal misconducts surrounding him, yet all of these powerful actors let him around after 15-years..?

There is so much at stake: chaos is the name of the game in 21st century (as been laid out by Kissinger), and the US, under old Neocon play book of Greater Middle Eastern plan, which has been revised dynamically, has been touting Turkey in the form of a moderate Islamist modern Khalifate under Erdogan-Gulen (Neo Ottomans) and any type of Saudi collaboration to play into their (CIA/Mossad/Neocons/MI6) hands with weakened, war driven, divided, endless hell so that no one (Russia/China) could dominate for years to come..

b, one correction: Energy Minister, whom met Flynn and Woolsey is Erdogan's son-in-law, not his son. He was the front dealer for ISIS oil trade. No one in their rational mind would think that our own CIA would have not known this minor glitz, eh?..

Posted by: Truist | Mar 27, 2017 7:23:26 AM | 65

@58 mike kelleher

couldn't help but think of you mike, when i read this one ...

Americans hold protest in Washington against Zionist lobby


The demonstration, which was largely attended by members of the left-wing Jewish Resistance group, on Sunday came a day ahead of the annual AIPAC conference in Washington, DC.

“We’re protesting [AIPAC] en masse as Jews to say that to be Jewish in America at this moment doesn’t mean to support Israel unconditionally,” said 25-year-old Yonah Lieberman, one of the co-founders of the anti-settlement group IfNotNow, which organized the rally.

Lieberman called the march as “the biggest ever Jewish-led protest of AIPAC.”

“AIPAC is the largest institution that supports Israeli settlements,” he said Sunday. “They’ve done more in the past 50 years to support occupation than anyone else in the Jewish community.”


from the ifnotnow website ...

'The demand for American Jewish institutions to end their support for the occupation has only grown more urgent and clear since that summer. While the out-of-touch establishment claims to speak for our community, we know that American Jewry is eager for change.

'We will be the generation that ends our community’s support for the occupation. Will you join us?'


where there's life there's hope ... i hope they do end the american jewish community's support for the occupation of palestine.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 27, 2017 7:42:27 AM | 66

Posted by: john | Mar 27, 2017 6:42:44 AM | 64

This works as long as Saudi Arabia's oil exports are safe and the money is spent on Western weapons. Once Saudi is at stake there will be peace.

Posted by: somebody | Mar 27, 2017 7:43:23 AM | 67

Outraged 26
I had a link do that once before, too. And I think it was a wayback extended link. Circe complained. I tried the tagging methods at the bottom of the page a couple of times but they screwed up, too so I went back to the old method. It's strange that Chrome has a problem with that.

As to spying on the UN and members it's proof that the UN is a joke. Some in the US have wanted the US out of the UN because they see it as the big push for world government (and a nest of foreign spies). While that may be an underlying theme, we often see the UN used by the US to justify aggressions - the opposite of the UN mandate.

jfl 66
Agreed. But I'm not holding my breath since the neocons and zionists are locked into the game of more settlements and poor Israel against evil neighbors (except the Sunnis for some reason). Neturei Karta protests in the US and common sense from sources like Haaretz don't get much press in the US. Even former heads of Shin Bet complain about policies, settlements, and the lack of the two-state solution. (see The Gatekeepers)

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 27, 2017 9:08:04 AM | 68

somebody

yes, the Carter Doctrine is not dead, it just smells funny.

Posted by: john | Mar 27, 2017 9:16:24 AM | 69

b asked. "Why was the CIA-Neocon axis vehemently lobbying against Trump?"

Because some thought he actually meant what he campaigned on? He's fully on board now. Fulfilling the wishes of the empires rulers is his job one.

Posted by: ben | Mar 27, 2017 12:48:35 PM | 70

A LOT of that NG will be stolen from Palestinian, Lebanese and Egyptian fields, but since we're talking about Israel, then the MSM is hush-hush on the thefts.

Posted by: Greg Bacon | Mar 27, 2017 1:33:16 PM | 71

@70. You haven't explained why the CIA-Neocon axis is still vehemntly lobbying against Trump.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 27, 2017 3:38:01 PM | 72

@68 curtis

chris hedges, the preacher, makes the point that when things seem as hopeless as they do and 'goal oriented' activity loses appeal as the goal seems impossible to obtain the struggle is carried on in an effort to defend one's own humanity in the face of the depravity of the rulers. i applaud that in these young american jews.

@72 lysis

maybe the reason the cia-neocon axis is still v.l-ing. against trump is simply about money? there were many salaried positions at issue and they've been done out of them ... it's simply the revolt of one set of beneficiaries of the depraved status-quo against their replacements? and trump's not hiring.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 27, 2017 5:27:46 PM | 73

Hey b, found this piece from Daily Caller on the Clinton's and Fethullah Gulen relationship. Thought you might find some of the facts in the post of interest. Seems more dots are connecting the Turkish coup, Erdogan, Hillary Clinton, Brennan, Obama, Fethullah Gulen and Flynn - http://dailycaller.com/2016/07/13/new-ties-emerge-between-clinton-and-mysterious-islamic-cleric/

Obviously, Flynn took a counter position to Obama and Hillary team on Gulen. If they had in fact intercepted communications from Flynn and were aware he took Erdogan as a client, you just know they continued with their surveillance. Once Flynn was named Director of the National Security Council, policy toward Gulen and his extradition would have changed and fast.

I'm thinking the first order of the Losers business was to have Flynn removed asap. Keeping the fingers behind the coup, and yes, I do believe there was such an attempt even though I also believe Erdogan is bat chit crazy, away from sunshine would be first order of business. Turkey is a NATO member after all.

None of this would ever have been in an issue had Hillary won. Once she lost, the embers from many of the fires set needed to be put out. Gulen was an ember.

Posted by: h | Mar 28, 2017 4:38:58 PM | 74

Woolsley is also associated with Genie Energy along with Cheney, Summers and Murdoch that has been awarded drilling rights by Israel for the annexed Golan Height in Syris

Posted by: Pft | Mar 31, 2017 11:34:01 PM | 75

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