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March 22, 2017

Fool Me Once ... DNC Ally Crowdstrike Claimed Two Cases Of "Russian Hacking" - One At Least Was Fake

The cyber-security company Crowdstrike claimed that the "Russia" hacked the Democratic National Committee. It also claimed that "Russia" hacked artillery units of the Ukrainian army. The second claim has now be found to be completely baseless. That same is probably the case with its claims related to the DNC.

Sometime around May 2016 the Democratic National Committee lost control over its email archives. It claimed that its servers had been "hacked" by someone related to Russian interests. DNC emails were published by Wikileaks and provided that the DNC had worked during the primaries against its statutes and in favor of one presidential candidate, Hillary Clinton. The DNC chair was forced to resign over the case.

The DNC had called in Crowdstrike, a company led by a one Dimitry Alperovich, a Senior Fellow of the NATO aligned "think tank" Atlantic Council. After a short investigation Crowdstrike claimed to found intruding software on the DNC servers that, it says, has been exclusively used by Russian intelligence services. From there followed claims that "Russia hacked the U.S. elections".

When the DNC went public with the Crowdstrike claims the FBI never requested access to the servers to determine if a crime had been committed and to detect the culprit. Access to the servers had been informally denied by the DNC. The FBI simply followed (pdf), without any own forensic investigation of its own, the conclusions Crowdstrike had made.

Imagine that some white guy claims that his house has been broken in and a large amount of money has been stolen. He hires a private investigators who says a window was broken and therefore the crime must have been committed by those "niggers" down the road. But others ask if the man hides the money himself, or if the man's son might have taken it. But the police does not investigate if a crime has actually happened. It does no forensics at the crime scene. It does not even check if a window has indeed been broken. It simply follows the conclusion of the private investigator and accuses the "niggers". This is what happened in the DNC case.

Month later and in a different case the same Crowdstrike investigators claimed (pdf) that the artillery units of the Ukrainian army had had "excessive combat losses" of up to 80% in their fight with Ukrainian separatists. Crowdstrike asserted that Russian intelligence hacked an application used by the Ukrainians to aim their guns. The hack, it was claimed, enabled well targeted counter-fire that then destroyed the Ukrainian guns.

The author of the application denied that any such hacking had taken place. His software was provided only directly from him to Ukrainian army units. Independent cyber-security researchers also doubted the claims.

Crowdstrike had based its numbers for "excessive losses" of Ukrainian artillery units on statistics collected by the International Institute for Strategic Studies (IISS). The IISS now says that its statistic do not provide what Crowdstrike claimed. There were no "excessive losses" of Ukrainian artillery.

VOA first contacted IISS in February to verify the alleged artillery losses. Officials there initially were unaware of the CrowdStrike assertions. After investigating, they determined that CrowdStrike misinterpreted their data and hadn’t reached out beforehand for comment or clarification.

In a statement to VOA, the institute flatly rejected the assertion of artillery combat losses.

It seems that the whole "Ukrainian artillery hack" claims by Crowdstrike was simply made up. There was no "hack" and the claimed damage from the "hack" did not occur at all. Crowdstrike evidently found a "crime" and "Russian hacking" where none had happened.

In the case of the DNC hacking Crowdstrike also alleged a "crime" and "Russian hacking". No hard evidence was ever provided for that claim, no competent police force ever investigated the crime scene and serious security researchers found that the Crowdstrike claims were likely taken from hot air.

The DNC was likely not hacked at all. Some insider with access to its servers may have taken the emails to publish them. On July 10 2016 the DNC IT administrator Sean Rich was found fatally shot on the streets of Washington DC. To this day no culprit has been found. The crime is unsolved. Five Congressional staffers and IT administrators from Pakistan, some of whom also worked for the DNC chair Debbie Wasserman-Schultz, are under criminal investigation for unauthorized access to Congressional computers. They had the password  of Wasserman-Schultz and may have had access to the DNC servers.

Crowdstrike's claims of "Russian hacking" have evidently been false with regards to the Ukrainian artillery. Crowdstrike's claims of "Russian hacking" in the case of the DNC have never been supported or confirmed by independent evidence. There are reasons to believe that the loss of control of the DNC's email archives were a case of unauthorized internal access and not a "hack" at all.

A company related to a NATO aligned "think-tank", which is financed by weapon producers and other special interests, raises allegations against Russia that are quite possibly unfounded. These allegations are then used by NATO to build up a public boogeyman picture of "the Russian enemy". In consequence the budgets for NATO militaries and the profits of weapon producers increase.

It is a simple racket, but with potentially very bad consequences for all of us.

Posted by b on March 22, 2017 at 09:59 AM | Permalink

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I have started to believe that Fancy Bear and Cozy Bear are simply tool sets used and shared by the Russian speaking online hacker community.

In December 2016 the U.S. Department of Homeland Security claimed that the DNC was hacked by Russian intelligence services using a Russian malware tool they named Grizzly Steppe or “PAS tool PHP web kit”. The Washington Post soon found out that the same Russian operation also hacked a Vermont power utility.

Security company Feedjit Inc (makers of Wordefence) soon revealed that Grizzly Steppe is actually “P.A.S. web shell”, a common malware tool on WordPress sites that is freely downloadable from its Ukrainian download site.

US Govt Data Shows Russia Used Outdated Ukrainian PHP Malware

The Wordefence article failed to follow the lead and report on the creators of P.A.S. web shell. I did and found out that it was distributed and most likely also created by a 25 years old student of the Poltava National Technical University.

Did a Ukrainian University Student Create Grizzly Steppe?

Posted by: Petri Krohn | Mar 22, 2017 11:10:56 AM | 1

thnx b
In the early MSM coverage of the DNC attacks, they referred to Crowdstrike as the ones who analyzed the signatures of the hacks and pointed to Russia. At the time, it sounded like a good case. But we know the signatures can be faked. We also know the emails could have been leaked, found via phishing (from any opponent), and HRC's emails were the subject of legal Judicial Watch and congressional efforts. But it's been much easier to point a generalized MSM finger at Russia and subvert any alternatives as well as the contents. If the contents had been recipes and social gossip or movie discussions, there would be no uproar. It's DNC/MSM deflection and part of the overall anti-Russia agenda.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 22, 2017 11:17:54 AM | 2

Unauthenticated claims forming the basis for what become conspiracy theories are rife within the Western media, but they are often hard to destroy. And even when evidence surfaces that really ought to kill the attempted theory and totally discredit its purveyors and their publications, The Big Lie has already grown legs powerful enough to withstand such factual disproving. An example of this was just published by Glenn Greenwald regarding Snowden's alleged missing 11 days in Hong Kong, which I suggest be read and distributed widely, https://theintercept.com/2017/03/21/newly-obtained-documents-prove-key-claim-of-snowdens-accusers-is-a-fraud/

I expect a similar fate will befall the Big Lie of Russian interference in the latest Outlaw US Empire presidential election. Media outlets and writers that peddle Big Lies forever lose their credibility with me, as well as governments, all of which give a big boost of credibility to songwriters like Joe Walsh and his A Life of Illusion, http://songmeanings.com/songs/view/5045/

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22, 2017 11:19:39 AM | 3

Seth Rich
My money is on Seth Rich as a likely source of the Podesta emails. He paid dearly for his actions. I doubt that his killer(s) will ever be brought to justice.

Posted by: Enquiring Mind | Mar 22, 2017 11:38:01 AM | 4

Jesus Christ,

FBI Probing Breitbart, InfoWars In Russian Influence Investigation

Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/03/21/fbi-probing-breitbart-infowars-in-russian-influence-investigation/#ixzz4c4PRPTBk

Is this a dream? This is pure dictatorship, censorship going on in front us right now.

Posted by: test | Mar 22, 2017 11:46:49 AM | 5

Whoever "did" the hack wanted to be found?

https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/does-the-gru-know-what-covert-means-1e5f35e92309#.3u13f3yfz

My guess is that a disgruntled DNC employee took the DNC files and Russians hacked the Hillary email servers, while others left a trail to implicate the Russians. Since the Hillary servers were scrubbed, they couldn't be used to do a forensic analysis of who committed the breach.

Cozy Bear, Fancy Bear, APT28, and APT29 are software suites, not actual people as protrayed by the media. Also, the government's report on who uses these tools is intentionally narrow to exclude other groups.

https://medium.com/@jeffreycarr/the-dnc-breach-and-the-hijacking-of-common-sense-20e89dacfc2b#.3web3ips5

Posted by: Les | Mar 22, 2017 12:10:41 PM | 6

...or the FBI **did** get access to Hillary's server(s) and preferred that the public have the conclusion Crowdstrike provided.

Reminds me of Curveball, the informant our IC never interviewed (so we are told). His testimony was used to justify an invasion - an invasion! - yet we are supposed to believe what we are told, that our IC never interviewed him directly.

Posted by: librul | Mar 22, 2017 12:50:34 PM | 7

Does anyone remember the meme leading up to the Iraq invasion that Dubya was fighting Saddam to avenge his father GHW Bush) who only got to blow up part of Iraq? Imagine a morally outraged President Clinton coming out of her inauguration going to war with Russia. Americans love sequels where "This time it's personal." Trump and Putin tried to destroy American Democracy!!!!

To me the whole "Russia hacked the DNC" story was the beginning of an intelligence false flag op that was supposed to end with our imperial President Clinton reigniting the open sore that is Ukraine. The DNC kept the FBI from investigating precisely because they didn't want them to find out who was behind it.

A real investigation would have shown fascist Ukrainian fingerprints all over this case. Alexandra Chalupa, a Ukrainian American DNC staffer, was responsible for the oppo research against Trump and Manafort, specifically regarding "connections" to Russia. The "fake news" op that WaPo ran for PropOrNot appears to be another Ukrainian intelligence op. The PropOrNot website, prior to its fluffing in WaPo, had been using "Heroism Slava!", a fascist Ukrainian salute introduced during WWII, just before the Nazis dispatched Ukrainian Nazis to perform Operation Nightingale and rid Ukraine of a million Jews.

You see, Trump was supposed to lose, Clinton was supposed to march us into a full press against Russia, and eventually our corporations would control that pool of petroleum in Central Asia.

The only problem was that Clinton was the least liked, least trusted politician ever nominated to be a Democratic candidate. She ran an awful campaign and alienated large swaths of working class white voters who still hadn't recovered from all the neoliberal trade deals of the last generation. This is not an endorsement of Trump, who is screwing the bottom ninety percent of the population of the US. He appears to be psychotic, separated from reality in a narcissistic bubble.

However, as awful as Trump is for working people, there was one thing that he couldn't deliver to the Deep State that Hillary gladly would have, had things gone to plan: a war with with Russia.

The continuing scandal is actually a behind-the-scenes negotiation between Trump and the Deep State for that war. Eventually the Deep State will get the war. If Trump refuses Pence will give them what they want.

Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 1:05:03 PM | 8

Stopped reading at "...Crowdstrike, a company led by a one Dimitry Alperovich, a Senior Fellow of the NATO aligned "think tank" Atlantic Council". The appalling conflict of interests disqualifies Crowdstrike's credibility, if they ever had any.

(Though, you have to admire Anglo-Zionists' doublespeak-inspired names that these psychopaths give to their pet propaganda "expert" and "media" outlet projects - Crowdstrike, Bellingcat, ProporNot... did I miss anyone?)

Posted by: LXV | Mar 22, 2017 1:14:32 PM | 9

Your idea that Russia won't appreciate the American parachute drop to take the Tabqah Dam is not necessarily what's going on. Allies would do such at thing. This has just cut the common enemy in two. Imagine all the fighters who have building up to save Maskanah from the SAA. They're cut off now themselves.

Posted by: BoredByJ | Mar 22, 2017 1:29:55 PM | 10

8, a small correction: not "Heroism Slava!", but "Heroyam slava!", which means "Glory to the heroes". And "the heroes" in question were themselves, of course.
And they killed en masse not only Jews, but many other citizens of USSR and Poland, including Ukrainians that weren't supportive of said "heroes" and their Nazi masters.
When you come to think of it, this whole situation is incredibly pathetic: to glorify murderers that "fought for Ukraine's independence" which were mere lapdogs of Himmler & Co.

Posted by: Manirai | Mar 22, 2017 1:50:04 PM | 11

In a seniors moment, I couldn't find my house keys. When I finally did locate them in an unlikely spot, I couldn't account for it. Hence, I blame Roosia!

The coffee grains in an unopened tin on the pantry shelf are moldy, even though the tinfoil seal was intact and the lid closed. Hence, I blame Roosia!

One of my beloved rescue/companion dogs came down with severe breathing difficulties, that suddenly went away, upon examination the Vet had no explanation. Hence, I blame Roosia!

This foundation level full court Psyop campaign throughout the 'West' is not just about the Trump-faction, that's just an offshoot, this was planned out long ago, and all the latest threads are mere sub-narratives of the primary. And it isn't going to go away anytime soon ...

@ Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 1:05:03 PM | 8

Indeed.

@ Posted by: LXV | Mar 22, 2017 1:14:32 PM | 9

The 'Usual Suspects' with, lengthy criminal histories and a track record of direct involvement in Crimes against Humanity ? ... the 'Directors' of various grades/status on The Atlantic Council ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 1:52:58 PM | 12

In a seniors moment, I couldn't find my house keys. When I finally did locate them in an unlikely spot, I couldn't account for it. Hence, I blame Roosia!

The coffee grains in an unopened tin on the pantry shelf are moldy, even though the tinfoil seal was intact and the lid closed. Hence, I blame Roosia!

One of my beloved rescue/companion dogs came down with severe breathing difficulties, that suddenly went away, upon examination the Vet had no explanation. Hence, I blame Roosia!

This foundation level full court Psyop campaign throughout the 'West' is not just about the Trump-faction, that's just an offshoot, this was planned out long ago, and all the latest threads are mere sub-narratives of the primary. And it isn't going to go away anytime soon ...

@ Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 1:05:03 PM | 8

Indeed.

@ Posted by: LXV | Mar 22, 2017 1:14:32 PM | 9

The 'Usual Suspects' with, lengthy criminal histories and a track record of direct involvement in Crimes against Humanity ? ... the 'Directors' of various grades/status on The Atlantic Council ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 1:52:59 PM | 13

Sorry, I don't speak Ukrainian and repeated a misquote in another article. Thanks for the correction. And yes, it's hard to post a comprehensive list of victims of fascist hate in WWII. Unfortunately, the destruction of ethnic groups was repeated across Europe, to include mass murders of Serbs by the fascist Croat people.

Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 1:56:05 PM | 14

b - thanks for your many informative posts... hitting the nail on the head regularly is your stock and trade!~!

Posted by: james | Mar 22, 2017 1:58:25 PM | 15

LXV @9:... did I miss anyone?

The too-clever by half handle of the 'sorceress' of MoA comes to mind.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 22, 2017 1:58:59 PM | 16

The West some time ago entered the post truth era where facts and truth no longer count but only false narratives do.

Posted by: xor | Mar 22, 2017 1:59:44 PM | 17

Russia hack investigator Crowdstrike falsified intrusion data on another Russian hack

http://www.voanews.com/a/crowdstrike-comey-russia-hack-dnc-clinton-trump/3776067.html

Posted by: Les | Mar 22, 2017 2:01:03 PM | 18

Interesting reads

Cisco Systems said that more than 300 models of switches it sells contain a critical vulnerability that allows the CIA to use a simple command to remotely execute malicious code that takes full control of the devices. There currently is no fix.

https://arstechnica.com/security/2017/03/a-simple-command-allows-the-cia-to-commandeer-318-models-of-cisco-switches/

"It wasn't very well reported, the Department of Justice revealed just last week that in fact some of these ties that they had witnessed between Trump Tower servers and Russian entities in fact, were stooged," Kredo said.

Kredo went on to explain that malware may have been installed on these servers to mimick contacts with Russian entities in an effort to portray that the Trump campaign had the Russian contacts.


http://freebeacon.com/national-security/adam-kredo-doj-found-malware-mimicking-ties-between-trump-tower-servers-and-russian-entities/

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 22, 2017 2:46:09 PM | 19

@ Posted by: Les | Mar 22, 2017 2:01:03 PM | 16

Your link is a remarkable piece from VOA.

Kicks Crowdstrike, therefore by patronage, The Atlantic Council, and highlights false attribution re Cyber-attacks, denounces routine accepted propaganda re the Evil™ Russkies being responsible for dastardly deeds against the Ukies ... ?!

VOA & RFE/Liberty, etc are Cold War government propaganda outlets from their inception, and with the legislation changes in '13 can publish and feed into Stateside now since ...

Usually only read VOA/RFE etc to look for the angle/slant ... read it twice, carefully parsed, couldn't find one ... is VOA now being used by the Trump-faction to push back against the MSM & Intel community narratives with, remarkably, journalism and actual facts ?

The MSM is now largely utterly lockstep false, fake & fact free, yet conversely, formal propaganda agencies of government are now purveyors of journalism & truths ? Surreal ;)

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 2:52:17 PM | 20

if you are working in the propaganda industry, you want to find someone with impeccable credentials who is a really good liar... they're still working it all out on that level, but most folks don't bother to examine the details like b.. they just accept the propaganda whole hog... as wc fields, or was it barnum bailey? said - there is a sucker born every minute...

Posted by: james | Mar 22, 2017 3:03:45 PM | 21

CrowdStrike has been funded by, among the usual suspects, by an international Ukrainian org. I don't have the exact name because someone took down parts of their wiki entry overnight and erased the funding part of their wiki page. Meanwhile, there is a new article in the spring issue of THE BAFFLER which points some of their shenanigans back to someone doing an intelligence operation in the country of Georgia. Hmmm. Now if someone were mounting a faux cybercrime against Russia, who would have contacts in both Ukraine and Georgia?

Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 3:06:02 PM | 22

A bit offtopic, but the Russian singer for Eurovision have just been banned from Ukraine (where the final is placed this year) to be part of the competition.

This russian hatred is looking more and more like what happend with jews in Europe in the 30s...disgusting.

Posted by: test | Mar 22, 2017 3:32:52 PM | 23

Well, Cisco shares will take another dive, so will foreign sales, let alone domestic ... apart from this extremely inadequate limited public 're-assurance' what known vulnerabilities didn't Cisco divulge ? What about the actual Routers, ASA firewalls/IDS, etc ?

CIA Tech services & NSA intercepted & physically compromised Cisco products being exported for decades re identified 'foreign' targets, with Cisco's co-operation, and Snowden touched on that re his releases recently too ... and the Equation Group, now fully confirmed by Wikileaks Vault 7 as NSA (primarily, though MI5/CIA too) have been doing their thing for some time ...

Stocks aren't likely to be looking good moving forward for the other US tech companies who sold-out and/or were forced to, long ago ... market blowback comin' ? 'Trust & confidence', is taking a beating in multiple areas these days.

Security Vulnerabilities

The Cisco PIX VPN product was hacked by the NSA-tied[21] group Equation Group somewhere before 2016. Equation Group developed a tool code-named BENIGNCERTAIN that reveals the pre-shared password(s) to the attacker (CVE-2016-6415[22]). Equation Group was later hacked by another group called The Shadow Brokers, which published their exploit publicly, among others.[23][24][25][26] According to Ars technica, the NSA used this vulnerability to wiretap VPN-connections for more than a decade, citing the Snowden leaks.[27]

The Cisco ASA-brand was also hacked by Equation Group. The vulnerability requires that both SSH and SNMP are accessible to the attacker. The codename given to this exploit by NSA was EXTRABACON. The bug and exploit (CVE-2016-6366[28]) was also leaked by The ShadowBrokers, in the same batch of exploits and backdoors. According to Ars Technica, the exploit can easily be made to work against more modern versions of Cisco ASA than what the leaked exploit can handle.

And more malware used to create false-attribution, even manufacture false connections/interaction/data exchange, a false forensic record, how passe'. Which agencies, for which patrons benefit, hm ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 3:35:15 PM | 24

Paul Street digs further into "Russiagate" to discern its underlying domestic purpose and raises interesting points, http://www.counterpunch.org/2017/03/22/russiagate-and-the-democratic-party-are-for-chumps/

Then there's the parallel with McCarthyism and its related attack on Civil Liberties and the underlying fact that the Duopoly works for the same set of bosses, which lead to tough questions: Isn't tRump's actual agenda the same as the one Republicans and Blue Dog Democrats have pushed for decades in the service of their masters? Isn't this another Big Lie differing little from that propagated by media and government regarding 911 in service of the primary policy goal of the Outlaw US Empire--Full Spectrum Domination?

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22, 2017 3:38:32 PM | 25

It looks like the latest piling on of Russia is laundering of money. One investigation is of "The Global Laundromat."
Banks in the West
http://www.bostonglobe.com/business/2017/03/21/report-reveals-details-billion-money-laundering-plan/UGd8XC0sBdrwUN08lLXinK/story.html?event=event25
Banks in the East
http://www.atimes.com/article/chinese-banks-hsbc-caught-huge-money-laundering-scam/
The corruption of the Chicago economists and their ruin of the Russian economy in the 90s? The western-friendly oligarchs? Nope, it's big bad bogeyman of the Russian mafia. The BG article says Russian officials refused to cooperate.
"Using company records, the investigative reporters said they tracked some clients, many rich and powerful Russians who made fortunes from dealing with the Russian state, including a businessman in the inner circle of Russian President Vladimir Putin and IT distributors in Russia, including for Apple, Samsung and Asus."
And we have a winner! Not many degrees of separation from Putin!
But wait a minute! We've got to link all this to Trump somehow.
And you have Deutche Bank involved and it just so happens they also loaned $300 million to Trump. Bingo!
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2017/mar/21/deutsche-bank-that-lent-300m-to-trump-linked-to-russian-money-laundering-scam

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 22, 2017 4:00:49 PM | 26

@ Posted by: Bob In Portland | Mar 22, 2017 3:06:02 PM | 20

Of course, none of those associations coincide with MI6, Mr Steele, CIA/FBI/NSA/GCHQ, nor the serialized memo's which became the #Fake 'Dossier, the 'Intelligence Report' that never was, with numerous Ukie references & indicators, nor the Dems/DNC, heh ?

Do not forget the neutral/independent 'Cyber-Experts' at Crowdstrike deliberately chose not to report that the 'Grizzly Bear' malware was, 'Made in Ukraine', which they undoubtedly knew, yet failed to divulge !

Yep, merely just endless innocent coincidences and repeated tie-ins & overlapping associations ... Nothin' to see here! Move along then !

CrowdStrike, the third-party company relied upon by the FBI to make its assessment about alleged Russian hacking into the Democratic National Committee (DNC), was financed to the tune of $100 million from a funding drive last year led by Google Capital.

Google Capital, which now goes by the name of CapitalG, is an arm of Alphabet Inc., Google’s parent company. Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Alphabet, has been a staunch and active supporter of Hillary Clinton and is a longtime donor to the Democratic Party.

Alperovitch is a nonresident senior fellow of the Cyber Statecraft Initiative at the Atlantic Council. The Council takes a hawkish approach toward Russia and has released numerous reports and briefs about Russian aggression.

The Council is funded by the Rockefeller Brothers Fund, Inc, the U.S. State Department, and NATO ACT.

Another Council funder is the Ploughshares Fund, which in turn has received financing from billionaire George Soros’ Open Society Foundations...

Meanwhile, Shawn Henry, president of CrowdStrike Services and CSO of the firm, is a retired executive assistant director of the FBI.

“Henry, who served in three FBI field offices and at the bureau’s headquarters, is credited with boosting the FBI’s computer crime and cybersecurity investigative capabilities,” his CrowdStrike bio says.

Last April, CrowdStrike General Counsel and Chief Risk Officer Steven Chabinsky was appointed to President Obama’s White House Commission on Enhancing National Cybersecurity.

- DNC ‘Russian Hacking’ Conclusion Comes from Google-Linked Firm

Nah, it's all perfectly legit, no 'conflicts of interest' to see here, after all, crowdstrike was already in the employ of the DNC and is only willing to talk about, only, Roosia!

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 4:03:05 PM | 27

Great post b. However needs further explanation.

1. The excessive altillery loss of Ukrainian army between July and August was for at least several reasons: artillery positions were located without any guard units to provide any security of the firing position, easy overran by small rebel units familiar with the area since they were living there; the Kiev regime military by moving forward in chaotic ways ended up in numerous cauldrons giving up on artillery and tanks APCs; also many artillery units were abandoned by Ukrainian command, no ammunition no food no orders what to do, so after a week or so without food unable to purchase it sourrounded by hostile locals soldiers left the units en mass deserted and went home to be arrested there for desertion.

Another important factor was massive friendly fire among the Kiev regime troops, army and Nazi battalions reaching in first months up to 50%. Those who do not believe that must be reminded that on both side Ukrainian citizen were fighting and rebels often disguised themselves as Ukrainian army they all were veterans of themselves to attack guerrilla style causing chaos among Kiev regime conscripts from western Ukraine .

To a smaller degree it was deployment by rebels of few SMERTS system for killing artillery sites and tanks in formations, a kind of guided antitank GRAD system proved devastating. It eves has a fire assessment drone allowing to finish off what is left from initial assault.

2. Repudiation of phony hacking report from US by Ukrainians is not only because no evidence has been found but most of all they themselves denied mass loss of artillery and tank units and dead soldiers for propaganda of success purpose but also just not to pay death benefits to families and designated known dead as MIAs, some dead units were dumped in ditches and captured units were kept on books to steal their dead POW money and provisions for months. Ukrainian fascists initially refused to exchange their dead with rebels, rebels had to pay up to $5000 for a dead depending on rank.

The fascist Kiev regime war was an astronomical disgusting racket those US cyberfraudsters pawns of CIA propaganda do not have Isra about and are stepping on wrong toes and hence are repudiated from surprising directions.

Posted by: Kalen | Mar 22, 2017 4:18:47 PM | 28

Outraged 25
That reminds me of Team Bush's active order on 9/11 to get them anything and everything connecting Saddam Hussein and Iraq to the 9/11 attacks. In this case, it's the DNC getting their cronies to find anything and everything connecting Trump to Russia/Putin.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 22, 2017 4:47:30 PM | 29

Contrary to the Lying MSM reports and polls, The Deep State knew that Trump would win. It had to know. It had the data.

There's a huge facility located in Utah which was built for data storage.

The collection of everyone's data continues today and it never ceased.

Now they have legalized domestic surveillance.

Knowing that Trump would win (and not being able to fix it - in reality it was probably a landslide victory), the next step is to unseat him.

Doesn't have to be Hillary. The closeted gay Pence is perfectly malleable.

Posted by: fast freddy | Mar 22, 2017 4:49:31 PM | 30

LXV says:

Though, you have to admire Anglo-Zionists' doublespeak-inspired names that these psychopaths give to their pet propaganda "expert" and "media" outlet projects-Crowdstrike, Bellingcat, ProporNot... did I miss anyone?

curious psychopathic locution, curious nomenclature here in this deranged sanctuary, yessiree Bob, curious quasi-homophonics in this here prison, err, i mean, prism system, this crooked haven of incidental surveillance.

Posted by: john | Mar 22, 2017 5:25:13 PM | 31

"Eric Schmidt, the chairman of Alphabet"... and also the most powerful tool in the empire's alphabet soup. Total mind control of the masses.


...Alphabet Inc subsidiaries Jigsaw and Google are offering a free Protect Your Election package to low-budget organisations. The service to ward off website attacks has already been offered to news organisations for the past year under what is known as Project Shield.

Last week Jigsaw, which develops security tools for civic groups, joined up with Google to defend a voter information website that came under cyber attack during the Dutch national election....

... FAKE NEWS, EXTREMISM

The rise of Google and tech rival Facebook was welcomed as a gift to democracy and free speech against autocratic governments.

More recently, however, there has been a growing backlash against fake news on social media, which has polarised political debate, and the failure to stop extremist groups using their networks to spread propaganda and find new recruits.

Google vowed on Tuesday to police its websites better by ramping up staff numbers and overhauling its policies after several companies deserted the internet giant for failing to keep their adverts off hate-filled videos.

A spokesman for Jigsaw said on Tuesday that it plans to offer the Protect Your Election suite free to individuals and organisations involved in forthcoming national votes in France, South Korea and Germany and subsequent elections as they occur....
http://www.4-traders.com/ALPHABET-INC-24203373/news/Alphabet-Google-and-sister-company-to-offer-cyber-security-to-election-groups-24080725/

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 5:25:46 PM | 32

b,

What do you make of this?

JPost/Jerusalem: Kuwaiti daily quotes Iran Defense Ministry source as saying Iran was able to change the codes without Russia’s knowledge, enabling Friday’s missile launch against Israeli aircraft.

Iran has accused Russia of giving the codes for Syria’s anti-aircraft missiles to Israel, a senior official in the engineering department of Iran’s Defense Department told the Kuwaiti daily Al-Jarida on Monday.

source - http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/22/breaking-exclusive-israel-claims-russia-gave-us-syrias-air-defense-codes-helped-us-bomb-saa/

Is Sultan Putz being thrown under the bus?

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 22, 2017 5:44:53 PM | 33

31

Gordon Duff??

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 5:51:35 PM | 34

They're gonna get a hold of Manofort and put his nuts in a vice. First one that gets pinned always rolls. If he's done anything illegal he will sing like a bird.

I have no idea if the Russians did the dirty or not. But the indignation on here over the fact that anyone might think Putin is capable of such a thing leaves me scratching my head. Him and his oligarch pals would go off in their pants thinking about the money pipeline they could set up with a crook like Trump. With made guys like Manofort, Tillerson and Flynn all looking to do business how could things go wrong?

Manafort could be to this imbroglio what John Dean was to Watergate.


Posted by: peter | Mar 22, 2017 6:08:47 PM | 35

@ Posted by: Curtis | Mar 22, 2017 4:47:30 PM | 27

Let's step back in time, and hear from those that were there shall we, with open sources:

... Charles Hill was a career diplomat and former deputy to Secretary of State George P. Shultz in the Reagan administration... Mr. Hill went on to become the campaign’s chief foreign policy adviser, and to assemble a team that is united by its generally hawkish views and its belief in using American power to achieve its aims.

Just days after the Sept. 11 attacks, Mr. Hill joined a number of foreign policy experts in signing an open letter to Mr. Bush urging that “even if evidence does not link Iraq directly to the attack, any strategy aiming at the eradication of terrorism and its sponsors must include a determined effort to remove Saddam Hussein from power in Iraq.”

- 'Mideast Hawks Help to Develop Giuliani Policy', NYT OCT 25 2007

For most Americans, 9/11 was a terrible tragedy; for Bush and Cheney it was also an incredible opportunity — a chance to implement the agenda that their neoconservative allies had been cooking up for decades. The Project for a New American Century’s (PNAC) recent report “Rebuilding America’s Defenses” had ...

Bush and the PNACers in his administration knew precisely whose ass they wanted to kick. On September 12, already looking past Al-Qaeda’s Osama bin Laden and his Taliban collaborators in Afghanistan, Bush instructed counterterrorism chief Richard Clarke, “See if Saddam did this. See if he’s linked in any way.”

Clarke, incredulous, responded, “But, Mr. President, al Qaeda did this.” Bush persisted. Detailing the encounter, Clarke reported that when Bush walked away, Clarke’s assistant Lisa Gordon-Haggerty “stared after him with her mouth hanging open.” “Wolfowitz got to him,” she said.

- Richard A. Clarke, 'Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terror', 2004.

Deputy Secretary of Defense Paul Wolfowitz had a lot of help. His boss, Donald Rumsfeld, had already ordered the military to draw up strike plans for Iraq. “Go massive,” he said. “Sweep it all up (Intelligence). Things related and not.”
- Paul Krugman, 'Osama, Saddam and the Ports', NYT Feb 24 2006

Clarke assumed that Rumsfeld was joking when he said Iraq had better targets than Afghanistan. He wasn’t. On the morning of September 12, CIA Director George Tenet ran into Richard Perle, who was leaving the West Wing of the White House. Perle declared, “Iraq has to pay a price for what happened yesterday. They bear responsibility.”
- George Tenet, At the Center of the Storm: My Years at the CIA (New York: HarperCollins, 2007)

That afternoon, when Rumsfeld spoke of expanding the mission to “getting Iraq,” Secretary of State Colin Powell insisted that they focus on Al-Qaeda. Clarke thanked him and expressed his befuddlement over the obsession with Iraq: “Having been attacked by al Qaeda, for us now to go bombing Iraq in response would be like our invading Mexico after the Japanese attacked us at Pearl Harbor.” Knowing whom he was dealing with, Powell shook his head. “It’s not over yet,” he said.
- Richard A. Clarke, 'Against All Enemies: Inside America’s War on Terror', 2004.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 6:15:34 PM | 36

@31

The referenced piece is drawn from JPost and pieces.


Editor’s note: This Jerusalem Post story is highly suspect and we currently have teams looking at every aspect of it.
If Russia fails to respond and “close the door” on Israeli attacks on Syria, this blackmail article will destroy Russia’s credibility and defense industry.
If this is a hoax, it is a sign that Israel is in meltdown and ready to force Russia’s hand in Syria

In a separate but similar story, Israel is leaking that Putin told Netanyahu in their recent meeting that Russia would allow Israel a “free hand” in kidnapping Hezbollah commanders inside Syria and taking them back to Israel.

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 22, 2017 6:24:52 PM | 37

Petri Krohn @ #1,

Maybe you were actually trying to say that the Washington Post had accurately reported that The Russians had penetrated an electric power supplier in Vermont, or maybe you were trying to be ironic and failed to make your intent clear. But to leave no doubt that this was Fake News on their part here are two links from widely differing sources debunking this claim:

http://www.breitbart.com/big-government/2016/12/31/washington-posts-fake-news-russian-vermont-power-plant-hack/

https://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2017/01/03/verm-j03.html

If you are indeed still flogging this BS as if it were true, this should encourage you to stop.

Regards,
JJ

Posted by: JerseyJeffersonian | Mar 22, 2017 6:26:46 PM | 38

@32

Please read the Jerusalem Post story, published unedited and unaltered in its entirety:


Editor’s note: This Jerusalem Post story is highly suspect and we currently have teams looking at every aspect of it.
If Russia fails to respond and “close the door” on Israeli attacks on Syria, this blackmail article will destroy Russia’s credibility and defense industry.
If this is a hoax, it is a sign that Israel is in meltdown and ready to force Russia’s hand in Syria

In a separate but similar story, Israel is leaking that Putin told Netanyahu in their recent meeting that Russia would allow Israel a “free hand” in kidnapping Hezbollah commanders inside Syria and taking them back to Israel.

(Editor’s note: Al Jarida is a commonly used sockpuppet/surrogate source used by Israeli intelligence for seeding material, much as Israel uses WikiLeaks)

So Gordon Duff relating information published @ Jpost & Al Jarida makes him a conspiracy theorist? What is your point?

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 22, 2017 6:30:22 PM | 39

@ Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 5:51:35 PM | 32

Certainly consistent.

The link is an article where 'Gordon Duff', a reliable(?) & accurate source(?), stenographs the Jerusalem Post from Israel, claiming to quote, in its entirety, from Kuwait's 'Al-Jarida', an arabic only language newspaper that is strongly sectarian (SUNNI) and can only publish with the Emir's prior approval, claiming to quote a single unnamed Iranian Engineering official, in Iran ?

Is there, perchance, a pattern forming here ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 6:31:26 PM | 40

Coult Seth Rich have been murdered because hw was on to what those Pakistani IT people were doing?

Posted by: lysias | Mar 22, 2017 6:34:08 PM | 41

@38 Isn't Gordon Duff simply relaying a story? Either the story about the S300 codes is true or it isn't. If it's true then the Israelis need to be more careful with their attacks. If it's fake somebody is trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Iran.

Posted by: dh | Mar 22, 2017 6:45:47 PM | 42

Dear B,

The former British ambassador to Uzbekistan, Craig Murray, has a statement on his blog saying that he has met the person responsible for the DNC leaks and that this person was a Washington insider. The statement can be read at this link:
https://www.craigmurray.org.uk/archives/2016/12/cias-absence-conviction/

The person Murray met is said to have been a "disgruntled" Democrat Party member upset at the way Bernie Sanders was sidelined and treated so that Killer Klinton could be the Democrat nominee for the Presidency. Could very well have been Seth Rich since Wikileaks even offered a $20,000 reward for help to find the killer.

Posted by: Jen | Mar 22, 2017 6:50:11 PM | 43

The Daily Caller Foundation was founded by Tucker Carlson now with Fox News. It was/is DCF's team of investigators who broke the story on the Democratic Congressional critters IT/Pakistani brothers and wives. You will find a ton of detail on this story at dailycaller.com There has been a ton reported of late including the brothers Pakistani father's passing and their stepmom claiming to be held captive while one of the sons forged her signatures on legal doc's then heading to Pakistan to secure his dads funds.

Also, Seth Richards family have started a fundraising drive to hire an investigator(s) to delve more deeply into his murder. For those interested here's a link to the story - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/family-of-murdered-dnc-staffer-raising-money-to-investigate-unsolved-crime/article/2618052

Lastly, it's related, Rep Devin Nunes confirms evidence of incidental collection on Trump and team was in fact captured b/w Nov - Jan. Transition team members identities were unmasked and apparently the private, perfectly legal, conversations were put into reports which were then disseminated throughout the IC. Here's a link to Nunes' presser this afternoon - https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VtEz57_KZGk

Posted by: h | Mar 22, 2017 6:57:18 PM | 44

@ 41, Did Murray ever make it clear which emails were handed over by the person he met, the DNC ones or the Podesta ones?

I don't think Seth Rich could have been the person Murray met. Rich was murdered in July. The only trip I am aware of that Murray paid to D.C. last year was in September.

Posted by: lysias | Mar 22, 2017 6:57:22 PM | 45

ALberto 37

I have been trying to find information on the so called Syrian S-300 system.

I have found this, dated September 2013...

http://kremlin.ru/events/president/news/19143

Kirill Kleymenov: Let me still clarify about the modern s‑300.

Vladimir Putin: Please.

Kirill Kleymenov: Around that many conversations: after all, Russia has supplied Syria these complexes or not?

Vladimir Putin: s‑300 is not the most modern complexes. They honestly think that its parameters are better than "patriot", but we have already s‑400 and s‑500 coming up. This is a very effective weapon, of course. We have a contract to supply s‑300, we put the individual components but the whole delivery has not been completed, we have suspended it. But if we see that there are some steps related to the violation of existing international norms, we will think what we should do in the future, including supplies of such sensitive weapons in some regions of the world.
......

I cannot find when or if any S-300's have actually been delivered to Syria.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 7:15:09 PM | 46

@ Posted by: dh | Mar 22, 2017 6:45:47 PM | 40

It's a fabrication, and a particularly poor one at that, IMCO ... the numerous absurdities in the 'claimed' Kuwait Emir's SUNNI arabic language newspaper article ? Wasted too many pixels already. YMMV

Maybe, there is an arabic reader able to verify the actual Al-Jarida article even exists online and offer an original link, to allow for independent translation ?

... it's fake somebody is trying to drive a wedge between Russia and Iran.

And/or just routine dis/mis-information along the lines of DebkaFile, FDD's Longwar Journal, etc, by JP of Israel ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 7:18:28 PM | 47

It occurs to me that all the Russia bashing is just another Khristian Kolonial Kaper which could be exposed as fraudulent if the MSM Reptiles showed a bit of nouse and asked a few pertinent questions.

Speaking from a purely Australian perspective, I'm heartily sick of hearing Malcolm Turnbull and other Federal politicians telling me how eevil Putin is without explaining how or why.

Careful vetting of the Press Gallery ensures that 'troublemakers' NEVER get into a Prime Ministerial press conference i.e. only Obedient Reptile stenographers are welcome. IF a journalist/trouble maker was allowed entry into a PM press conference, the first question she/he would ask, after a fact-free Putin-bashing session, would be...
(imaginary press conference follows)

Troublemaker: "Mr Turnbull, have you spoken to Mr Putin about this issue, and if so how did he respond?"

PM Turnbull: "No, Troublemaker, I haven't spoken to Mr Putin directly. I have been advised by a very reliable and trustworthy, er, several reliable and trustworthy, sources that what I've told you is true."

Troublemaker: "But you're the Prime Minister of Australia. Why would you present gossip about Putin as fact when you have the authority and blessing of the Australian People to speak to him yourself before repeating unverified gossip?"

PM Turnbull: "Er... I dunno. Next question! Anyone!?"

Posted by: Hoarsewhisperer | Mar 22, 2017 7:30:53 PM | 48

@44 There's this....for what it's worth...

https://www.rt.com/news/361586-russia-s300-supplied-syria/

Of course it doesn't mean Syrians get to actually use them. It does seem odd though that Israelis can take off and fly without being detected. Maybe they have a way of jamming the defences.

Posted by: dh | Mar 22, 2017 7:32:08 PM | 49

dh 47

That's the Russian system at Tartus operated by Russia.

It's these so called Syrian - owned and operated by Syria - S-300's I'm after.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 7:39:07 PM | 50

@48 I realize that. Syria probably has some older stuff.....something was fired at that Israeli plane, allegedly. I'm more interested in what kind of radar Syrians use. The one Israel has threatened to destroy.

We may get more insight from the next Israeli incursion.

Posted by: dh | Mar 22, 2017 7:49:58 PM | 51

@15 xor

The West some time ago entered the post truth era where facts and truth no longer count but only false narratives do.


Not only that but regular people, citizens, don't care about truth either. Critical thinking, analysis, and acknowledging when you don't know something is so 2007. In 2017 the "news" is driven by emotion and spectacle. Truth is irrelevant. Pick a team or a character and shill hard for them and block out any information that doesn't back up the preferred narrative no matter how factual it may be.

Another trend I have noticed is that for a lot of people if it didn't get MSM attention it didn't happen. You can have all the proof in the world and many people will just dismiss it or say something like "well I like Barack Obama" (after you remind them of his broken promises and drone program and all the rest). Conversely, if the media talks about it, it happened regardless of the truth. e.g. Russian hacking, the "fall" of Aleppo.

Add to that a radical subjectivity where even the meaning of words is denied or rejected by some people ("SJW" types seem particularly fond of this tactic). "Fuck you, you can't tell me what that word means..it's my right to make it mean whatever I want! And besides, the dictionary was written by old white men so it's an oppressive tool of the patriarchy!"

What's happening is a worst-case scenario situation that combines economic decline, irrational, power-obsessed "elites" and a deeply distressed, polarized and indoctrinated citizenry that, thanks to the internet, acts as if everything is radically subjective...even language. This makes them extremely easy to manipulate by psychopaths and demagogues of all stripes and prevents them from organizing a coherent resistance.

Jane Jacobs wrote about some of this in her book Dark Age Ahead...and it's happening and unfolding as we speak.

Posted by: Temporarily Sane | Mar 22, 2017 7:55:50 PM | 52

@ Posted by: dh | Mar 22, 2017 7:32:08 PM | 47
@ Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 7:39:07 PM | 48

From, link, an Ru S300 complex at Tartus, an Ru S400 complex at Latakia, and both well and truly more than ~120Km detection/engagement range re fast & low fighter sized aircraft ingress to Sth Syria or E, striking Palmyra. Of course, should the IAF fly their aircraft above, say ~5,000 feet, with a death wish, the Tartus complex could possibly detect/engage at extreme range, as long as the IAF didn't use stand-off ordnance ... and the RU AD battery commander had ROE authority to engage a threat against a non-strategic target ... assuming sufficient time to detect/track/authorize/engage ... mere minutes ...

Syrian S200 detection & engagement radars & S200 warhead onboard radar are vulnerable to IAF EW/ECM, old known obsolete defeatable tech, unless S200 missile onboard radar upgraded and/or S200 launcher/missile slaved to advanced S300+ detection/engagement radars and/or S200 missile possible linkage to S300+ remote command missile detonation uplink ... even then, if S200 missiles, they have limited defeatable maneuverability and would have to be fired in 'spread' salvos to achieve a reasonable hit probability ... just sayin'. YMMV

Do we have any other AD complexes ID'd ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 8:09:37 PM | 53

dh 49

Radar and electronics on the Syrian S-200 systems would be interesting. Russian MoD announced they had completed an electronics upgrade of the Syrian S-200's at the time they moved the S-300 into Tartus.
Although he was also talking about the Russian S-400 and S-300 at the time, he did say anyone attacking Syrian Government may be surprised. This was at the time when US were making noises about strikes on Assad and government installation.
Original S-200's are easily jammed, but I suspect the Israeli pilots may have got a surprise and found their electronic counter measures did not work against the antique missiles coming at them at about mach 9.
Russia went into Syria with their eyes wide open, so may well have taken some updated homing heads and radars with them.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 8:12:14 PM | 54

Outraged 51

From the accounts from both sides, as far as I can make out, a number of missiles were launched by Syria. The incident seems to have taken place in the corner near the Jordan, Golan Heights, Syrian borders. Perhaps the Israeli's were running for home along the Jordanian border? Well within range of S-200's near Damascus.
The pics of the missile casing/body that landed in Jordan appears to be filament wound composite and about the size/dia of the arrow missile, so I take it that's what it is.
S-200's are a very big missile but absolutely no pics of S-200 debris anywhere?

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 8:31:21 PM | 55

@ Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 8:31:21 PM | 53

Parallel Jordanian border run makes sense as increases the detection/engagement range, provides a chance of splashdown/ejection in Israel/Golan/Jordan as opposed to Syria, and there were also reports and photo's of missile debris inside Jordan (Arrow/S200 ?). If were S200's fired from Damascus complexes, that would also be reasonable, as they would be engaging as the IAF were in egress from SE/S Syria ... the S200 is liquid fueled and therefore has to be fueled before launch (dangerous), this takes critical time/delay, cannot sit fueled 'ready to launch', again dangerous and degrades the missile, hence an egress engagement is much more likely given critical time/space limits ... perhaps the RU upgraded the S200 missile onboard radars and gifted some s300+ complex detection/tracking/engagement radars & C2 systems, LESS the actual S300+ missiles & launchers, very plausibly-deniable, justifiable, and would mean the S200's would be near peer to old/advanced s300 capable re functionality and EW/ECM resistance, but with the limitations of the actual S200, not S300+ missiles ... would also fit with the IAF feeling desperate enough to have to launch Arrow interceptors ... a little surprise for the Israeli's perhaps ;) Speculative, hm ?

If we discuss further, perhaps continue in open thread, yes ?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 22, 2017 8:54:56 PM | 56

Re Syrian owned operated S-300

Prior to September 2015 and Russia's entry into Syria, the Syrian government was at risk of being over run by AQ and ISIS. Right through the Syrian war, any government installation has been at risk of being over run.
I cannot see the current Russian government sending something like the S-300 to a place where they may be seized at any time by AQ or ISIS.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 22, 2017 8:55:50 PM | 57

The name was Seth Rich and he was voter outreach co-ordinator for the DNC. Lots of suspicious circumstances surrounding his death, including his behavior before his fatal stroll in the wee hours and and the way he was methodically killed - no beating, no robbery.

Posted by: Thirdeye | Mar 22, 2017 9:23:51 PM | 58

Thirdeye @ 56 - maybe you would be interested in passing this information onto others -

Also, Seth Richards family have started a fundraising drive to hire an investigator(s) to delve more deeply into his murder. For those interested here's a link to the story - http://www.washingtonexaminer.com/family-of-murdered-dnc-staffer-raising-money-to-investigate-unsolved-crime/article/2618052

Posted by: h | Mar 22, 2017 9:54:53 PM | 59

Sadly, in between the noise manufactured by the Hillarybots and the Trumpsters lie those who represent the only hope and sanity.

Regrettably I thought that Trump would accelerate a revolution, because he's the perfect manifestation of what America is: corrupt, depraved, superficial, materialistic, greedy, selfish, hypocritical and incredibly dumb. There is the enlightened minority, that I naively believed could raise their voices to shatter the entire system, but no, it ain't gonna happen, they are too few and their voices drowned out because what we have here is a political civil war between dumb and dumber, the neolibs and the neocons, and a hopeless future. For those on the Trump side; the noose is getting tighter - face it.

The Hillarybots suffered the same fate - rightly so, and now it's the Trumpsters turn.

I pray the Anglo/Zionist Empire goes down, because it's destroying this planet, but Trump won't be the catalyst that triggers the downfall after all, because unfortunately, he might end up impeached and then will be engraved into the memory of kooks/conspiracy theorists as the savior who could have been but who's nascent President was sabotaged. They'll keep this chapter in history as a bitter memory of what could have been just as the Hillarybots are doing with their Queen crying over what could have been when the truth is that both Trump and Hillary are part of the same rotten corrupt system and recycled duopoly leadership. So Hillary would go to war with Russia and Trump with Iran - it all stinks. None are worth defending.

But you still don't get that. The rest of us are doomed. Carry on shadow boxing. Hillarybots and Trumpsters alike - you're all on the wrong side; the dark side.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 22, 2017 11:36:33 PM | 60

@58 Circe

"unfortunately, he might end up impeached and then will be engraved into the memory of kooks/conspiracy theorists as the savior who could have been but who's nascent President was sabotaged. They'll keep this chapter in history as a bitter memory of what could have been just as the Hillarybots are doing with their Queen"

I often find myself worrying about Trump seeming as a martyr a to some too.

Posted by: FecklessLeft | Mar 23, 2017 12:23:20 AM | 61

Lysias @ 43: You are right, Seth Rich was killed in July 2016 and Craig Murray received a USB stick of emails from Democrat Party insider in Washington in September 2016. No idea if the USB contained DNC or Podesta emails.

Posted by: Jen | Mar 23, 2017 12:34:08 AM | 62

No doubt there was hacking, no doubt hacking can be used to effect outcomes, and no doubt political operatives would use hacking, leaks, and counter bs toward their ends. Now, however, thanks to Trump and his team, the media, and citizen kooks mixing truth with a whole lot of speculation or more accurately fiction, most people including some of our group here are forming faulty logics and ultimately uninformed opinions. In a word from Trump, sad.

Posted by: Alestra | Mar 23, 2017 2:01:32 AM | 63

"There are reasons to believe that the loss of control of the DNC's email archives were a case of unauthorized internal access and not a "hack" at all."

I wouldn't rule out 'authorized'

Posted by: c | Mar 23, 2017 4:24:47 AM | 64

Off topic:

Tilllerson is a full blown warmonger apparently sigh,
This show the collusion, influence Nato push on Trump.

Exclusive: Tillerson urges Senate ratification of Montenegro's NATO membership
https://www.yahoo.com/news/exclusive-tillerson-urges-senate-ratification-montenegros-nato-membership-220536344.html

Posted by: Tillerson the idiot | Mar 23, 2017 4:53:34 AM | 65

Alberto @31 here's another of Gordon Duff's efforts, with astounding relegation about Trump. http://www.veteranstoday.com/2017/03/21/neo-the-danger-of-underestimating-the-cias-web-of-control/

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 23, 2017 5:20:57 AM | 66

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-ukraine-crisis-murder-idUSKBN16U19O?il=0
Ukraine accuses Russia of 'state terrorism' after former MP shot
By Pavel Polityuk and Alexei Kalmykov | KIEV
Ukraine accused Russia of "state terrorism" after a former Russian lawmaker and key witness in a treason case against former leader Viktor Yanukovich was shot dead in broad daylight outside a hotel in central Kiev on Thursday.
Russia called the allegation "absurd".
Former MP Denis Voronenkov was killed by an assailant who was armed with a pistol and is now critically ill in hospital after being wounded by Voronenkov's bodyguard, police said.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 23, 2017 9:56:41 AM | 67

Desperation on the cusp of idiocy? It is being reported that ISIS was behind London terr'ist attack. Interestingly several individuals were arrested in connection with the alleged kamikaze attack on Parliament? Apparently 'Lone Wolves'now have support staff.

The caliber of paid ideo trolls hovering over MoA comments section has slipped considerably. Talk about self-idenifying. Apparently the caliber has slipped from .22 cal to that of BB.

Nobody @66. I was reading your link to VT when the screen went blue and I was informed that the link was broken due to copyright infringement. Very interesting information. THX

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 23, 2017 10:08:25 AM | 68

b, @66 link to VT. Check out this piece. Very interesting. Is it true? You be the judge.

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 23, 2017 10:10:38 AM | 69

Maybe Crowdstrike aint all that great!

CrowdStrike Fails In Bid To Stop NSS Labs From Publishing Test Results At RSA

NSS recently conducted security tests on Advanced Endpoint Protection products from 13 vendors including Crowdstrike. Basically the point of the test is to show the effectiveness of a vendor's endpoint protection.



A Definition of Endpoint Protection

Endpoint protection is a term often used interchangeably with endpoint security. Endpoint protection is often used to describe security solutions that address endpoint security issues, securing and protecting endpoints against zero-day exploits, attacks, and inadvertent data leakage resulting from human error.

The products were graded for their overall security effectiveness and total cost of ownership per protected endpoint agent. Products were assigned a rating of “Recommended,” “Security Recommended” or “Caution”. Crowdstrike's Falcon Technology was rated "caution".

Crowdstrike went to court but failed to stop independent testing lab NSS from publishing results of it's test of CrowdStrike’s Falcon technology.

Posted by: Laura Roslin | Mar 23, 2017 10:20:33 AM | 70

Trump can be BOTH under relentless attack by the CIA and its MSM arm (which we can see and hear) AND also be a sex orgy pervert with friend Epstein and Co (which is hidden).

It may well be true that NYC and its 30 mile radius is exempt from FISA regs, BUT the fact is that Domestic Surveillance and data storage of everyone is ongoing and protected under National Security Jargon (blanket excuse for all nefarious acts of gubmint) and retroactive immunity from prosecution.

Posted by: fastfreddy | Mar 23, 2017 11:14:56 AM | 71

Remember this?

Obama Says He’s More Worried About Nuclear Bomb Going Off In Manhattan Than Russian Threats

Posted by: ProPeace | Mar 23, 2017 11:38:15 AM | 72

Alberto. In my view Gordon Duff = disinfo I followed the Lee Wanta story a while back. Listened to long interviews read a whole lot of articles. Concluded that it was all bs. So anything on VT is suspect. Treat it the same as anything by Sorcha Faal.

Posted by: Nobody | Mar 23, 2017 1:11:41 PM | 73

@Alestra No doubt there was hacking,...

I fo one have quite a bit of such doubt. Do you have any evidence that hacking took place (aside from assertions by this or that partisan)?


@all- stop posting ANYTHING from veteranstoday.com here.

Only lunatics are writing for that shop.

Posted by: b | Mar 23, 2017 1:18:49 PM | 74

@73-74

Yup..

Posted by: Lozion | Mar 23, 2017 1:35:27 PM | 75

Why were there no emails released by wikileaks that were FROM Hillary Clinton? There was not a single one. Why? I assume whoever gave the emails to wikileaks deleted them before giving the data to wikileaks. It seems to me that should at least give some clues to who the leaker or hacker may have been. Why would Russia exclude emails from Hillary? What am I missing?

Posted by: gdpbull | Mar 23, 2017 2:22:53 PM | 76

@71. If the powers that be had the information with which they could blackmail Trump, would they be going after him?

Posted by: lysias | Mar 23, 2017 2:28:47 PM | 77

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 22, 2017 11:19:39 AM | 3

The problem is as systemic, as it is deep. For once, it simply shows that there are two 'realities'. The one that is promoted and implied by the Fascist Deep State and its countering believe of the majority of the people that absolutely nothing makes sense - if not for an alternate reality in the making. That alternate reality has many names. None of them provide thought material for a more pleasant world.

The DNC hack and all the other war-propaganda leads against a made-up enemy - thus the creation of the hacking situation itself is the 'real' deal, not its content, nor even its operational procedures. It is the effect it has on the population's perception that is at the core of this infamy. For one, everybody knows that the Spy Agencies the world over are able to access ANY target's electronic 'state' - those who possess this ability, know who is behind these intentionally called 'hacker attacks'. Nothing could be further from the truth - as is to be expected. Having followed the unfolding of the "ClintoNeoCons Steal Nomination From Sanders-Affair", nothing else than an operation OF the Deep State for an explanation makes sense. Only the Deep State - like the proverbial "Big Brother", has access to all communications - no matter how, or where they are based - making it clear that in the essence, only those who "know it all" can be behind the Internal, Fascist "Coup D’État" at the DNC. Democracy has been rolled up from the bottom.

A massive crime against humanity has been perpetrated and the "DNC-Affair" has the potential to make it possible for all those to wake up, that still could wake up from the consumer lullaby the Deep State is using to pacify them.

"Shooting the Messenger" is an expression that comes to mind. Only inverted. This time, the message needs to be shot first. Reject ANY explanation as to what really happened at the DNC. People that are still enjoying the fancy lifestyle of Deep State members, controllers and administrators are at large. Not even an electronic ankle GPS device. Nothing. No punishment, no penalties for the executors of this take over.

It is time to indeed wake up to the sea of lies that is spread incessantly before our minds by the nano second.

Nothing is ever as it appears.

Last but not least, one can write about this without ever using the term "Russia". For "Russia" is another name for "X".

BTW: Aloha.

Posted by: Nottheonly1 | Mar 23, 2017 2:57:56 PM | 78

@all- stop posting ANYTHING from veteranstoday.com here.

Only lunatics are writing for that shop.

b, Veterans Today South Front) along with Global Research were among the few blogs that tracked the events occurring in Syria as they actually occurred this past year or two. The rest of the blogosphere preferred to parrot the M$M disinfo scenarios. Quite often hyperbole must be used to cloak certain 'truths' that would make one a target of the exceptionals who author our reality.

Thank you for allowing me to comment this past year or two. I am obviously a blog parasite who posts opinions and information while others pay the freight.

The quality of the trolls who frequent is very third rate. Inbred idiots I would say.

PEACE

adios

Adios

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 23, 2017 3:34:55 PM | 79

Hey Alberto, for what it's worth, Duff himself stated in an interview a couple of years ago that much of his work was purposely intended to redirect his readers. He freely admitted this nugget of detail. I'm sure the interview is out there, somewhere. The entire interview was rather revealing. I can't speak for others who write for that site, but Duff is known not to be always truthful.

I hope you'll keep posting. You always provide insight and info to consider and read.

Posted by: h | Mar 23, 2017 4:46:57 PM | 80

Looks like the Israeli, Turkish and NATO backed Sunni faction vultures are planning to carve out sections of Iraq and Syria.

Israel has no plans to end their illegal occupation of the Golan Heights or settle the border dispute with Lebanon.

The Turkistan Islamic Party (TIP), a largely Uyghur jihadi movement advocating the independence of the Chinese province of Xinjiang comprise between 2,000 to 2,500 al Qaeda combatants currently fighting in northern Syria. These and other Turkic terrorists in Syria are unlikely to return to their home countries and may end up in an illegal Turkish cleansed and occupied region of Northern Syria (Turkstan) :https://www.frstrategie.org/publications/notes/war-and-opportunity-the-turkistan-islamic-party-and-the-syrian-conflict-07-2017


The Trump administration appears to be set on creating a Sunni state in Western Iraq and Eastern Syria.
http://en.farsnews.com/newstext.aspx?nn=13960103000626
It is claimed that the Trump campaign organizer Cambridge Analytica, ExxonMobil and Koch Brothers want to profit from an extended occupation of Iraq, and perhaps Syria:
https://medium.com/insurge-intelligence/exclusive-inside-the-trump-lobby-that-wants-to-break-up-iraq-3ecf122f0ead#.x8nqwag6q

Posted by: Krollchem | Mar 23, 2017 10:48:10 PM | 82

@79 ALberto, agreed with South Front and Global Research but less so about VT. A little too much on the "stuff you can make up" side of things, if you know what I mean..
Hope you stick around.

Posted by: Lozion | Mar 23, 2017 10:49:36 PM | 83

@79 "Thank you for allowing me to comment this past year or two. I am obviously a blog parasite who posts opinions and information while others pay the freight."

I am sure you will get on well with the disabled veteran running the worlds largest intelligence company that when searched for on different search engines, always leads back to his block spot. Incredible man, disabled, managing director of the worlds largest intelligence company Adamus Defense Group, Chairman, senior editor of VT, and even though he's disabled, likes riding motorbikes.

A copy past of his bio from the site..

"Gordon Duff is a Marine combat veteran of the Vietnam War. He is a disabled veteran and has worked on veterans and POW issues for decades.
Gordon Duff is an accredited diplomat and is generally accepted as one of the top global intelligence specialists. He manages the world's largest private intelligence organization and regularly consults with governments challenged by security issues.
Gordon Duff has traveled extensively, is published around the world and is a regular guest on TV and radio in more than "several" countries. He is also a trained chef, wine enthusiast, avid motorcyclist and gunsmith specializing in historical weapons and restoration. Business experience and interests are in energy and defense technology."

Incredible man. in his earlier bio's he was 100% disabled but did even more shit. You and him will have a lot to talk about. I see he has a comment section under his ravings.

The sentence of yours I quoted at the top, I think prevented me from agreeing with Lozion.
Check Duff out carefully ALberto and have a think about it.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 23, 2017 11:47:49 PM | 84

Hey b, My comments are based on the widespread use of hacking in all sectors. I work at a very large organization that is routinely under attack with the rare breach. While most of what is hacked is routine communication, my organization does produce scientific and medical innovations that must be protected. We employ a huge IT staff which part of must keep the hackers out as best as possible. I work with professionals across gov, private, and nonprofit organization - all are concerned about hacking and take actions to thwart it. Hacking is commonplace so yes, I have no doubt there was hacking.

Posted by: Alestra | Mar 24, 2017 12:51:58 AM | 85

Everyday brings another humiliation to Erdogan to which he replies with his empty threats of retaliation.
- Turkey together with its allies in terrorism funding, Qatar and Saudi Arabia on the blacklist of the electronics UK and US airports ban.
- The Daily Sabah, Erdogan's propaganda newspaper now banned from distribution in the European Parliament.

More to come....

Posted by: virgile | Mar 24, 2017 8:03:18 AM | 86

Cyber Firm Rewrites Part of Disputed Russian Hacking Report

U.S. cybersecurity firm CrowdStrike has revised and retracted statements it used to buttress claims of Russian hacking during last year's American presidential election campaign. The shift followed a VOA report that the company misrepresented data published by an influential British think tank. .... After CrowdStrike released its Ukraine report, company co-founder Dmitri Alperovitch claimed it provided added evidence of Russian election interference. In both hacks, he said, the company found malware used by "Fancy Bear," a group with ties to Russian intelligence agencies.

CrowdStrike's claims of heavy Ukrainian artillery losses were widely circulated in U.S. media.

On Thursday, CrowdStrike walked back key parts of its Ukraine report.

The company removed language that said Ukraine's artillery lost 80 percent of the Soviet-era D-30 howitzers, which used aiming software that purportedly was hacked. Instead, the revised report cites figures of 15 to 20 percent losses in combat operations, attributing the figures to IISS.

The original CrowdStrike report was dated Dec. 22, 2016, and the updated report was dated March 23, 2017.

The company also removed language saying Ukraine's howitzers suffered "the highest percentage of loss of any ... artillery pieces in Ukraine's arsenal."

Finally, CrowdStrike deleted a statement saying "deployment of this malware-infected application may have contributed to the high-loss nature of this platform" — meaning the howitzers — and excised a link sourcing its IISS data to a blogger in Russia-occupied Crimea.

So Crowdstrike admits that they lied about ONE of the two "blame Russia" reports. The other one, on the "DNC hacking" is likely just as wrong as the now retracted one.

Posted by: b | Mar 28, 2017 2:24:28 PM | 87

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