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March 07, 2017

CIA Leak: "Russian Election Hackers" May Work In Langley

Attribution of cyber-intrusions and attacks is nearly impossible. A well executed attack can not be traced back to its culprit. If there are some trails that seem attributable one should be very cautions following them. They are likely faked.

Hundreds if not thousands of reports show that this lesson has not been learned. Any attack is attributed to one of a handful of declared "enemies" without any evidence that would prove their actual involvement. Examples:

In June 2016 we warned The Next "Russian Government Cyber Attack" May Be A Gulf of Tonkin Fake:

All one might see in a [cyber-]breach, if anything, is some pattern of action that may seem typical for one adversary. But anyone else can imitate such a pattern as soon as it is known. That is why there is NEVER a clear attribution in such cases. Anyone claiming otherwise is lying or has no idea what s/he is speaking of.

There is now public proof that this lecture in basic IT forensic is correct.

Wikileaks acquired and published a large stash of documents from the CIA's internal hacking organization. Part of the CIA hacking organization is a subgroup named UMBRAGE:

The CIA's Remote Devices Branch's UMBRAGE group collects and maintains a substantial library of attack techniques 'stolen' from malware produced in other states including the Russian Federation.

With UMBRAGE and related projects the CIA cannot only increase its total number of attack types but also misdirect attribution by leaving behind the "fingerprints" of the groups that the attack techniques were stolen from.

UMBRAGE components cover keyloggers, password collection, webcam capture, data destruction, persistence, privilege escalation, stealth, anti-virus (PSP) avoidance and survey techniques.

Hacking methods are seldom newly developed. They are taken from public examples and malware, from attacks some other organization once committed, they get bought and sold by commercial entities. Many attacks use a recombined mix of tools from older hacks. Once the NSA's STUXNET attack on Iran became public the tools used in it were copied and modified by other such services as well as by commercial hackers. Any new breach that may look like STUXNET could be done by anyone with the appropriate knowledge. To assert that the NSA must have done the new attack just because the NSA did STUXNET would be stupid.

The CIA, as well as other services, have whole databases of such 'stolen' tools. They may combine them in a way that looks attributable to China, compile the source code at local office time in Beijing or "forget to remove" the name of some famous Chinese emperor in the code. The CIA could use this to fake a "Chinese hacking attack" on South Korea to raise fear of China and to, in the end, sell more U.S. weapons.

Russia did not hack and leak the DNC emails, Iran did not hack American casinos and North Korea did not hack Sony.

As we wrote: "there is NEVER a clear attribution". Don't fall for it when someone tries to sell one.

(PS: There is a lot more in the new Wikileaks CIA stash. It seems indeed bigger than the few items published from the Snowden NSA leak.)

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Bravo b!

Posted by: Mike Maloney | Mar 7, 2017 1:01:16 PM | 1

Lets hope this will discredite the "Russia hacking" meme in the public eye..

Posted by: Lozion | Mar 7, 2017 1:09:08 PM | 2

A defense lawyer armed with this info will have court cases headed south pretty quick one would think .

Posted by: terry | Mar 7, 2017 1:20:07 PM | 3

b,

I am of the opinion that Russian Federation and U.S. Military Command desire a return to the rule of Law. Putin has mentioned this several times in his speeches. If what happened in Libya is not a crime against humanity then we are indeed finished as a species. Am I being to harsh?

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 7, 2017 1:21:32 PM | 4

[deleted - b.]

Posted by: Take Me | Mar 7, 2017 1:24:24 PM | 5

Since the title has the prims Alphabet agency in its tittle therefore my post too will seem a bit not too offtopic..

Here's what is "expected"...
WMD launch in Syria, or similar mass casualty incident, like a dam destruction.
Preorchstrated refugee flux across Aegean with mass casualty Crisis in Syria by the 100th's of thousands.
Regional instability across both sides of the Aegean, North Greece, South Bulgaria, Repub. of Mac.
"GRaccident", GRexit, EUrozone instability.
A Turkish invasion both twards, n.Syria, Eastern Aegean, North Thrace Bulgaria, West of Cyprus.

THIS IS BIG!

Surely preplanned. Erdogani coup a rouse to get enough stea/ for it.
Timeline, this summer.
Get ready.

They are almost there:

Terrorists Claim to Have Struck Damascus with SCUD Missiles [Video]
March 7th, 2017 - Fort Russ News -
- Al Mayadeen - - translated by Samer Hussein -

Posted by: Farben N.W 7 | Mar 7, 2017 1:25:44 PM | 6

Take Me, at 5.
They set the stage for outsourcing vital assets to a possible shadow international superstate, possibly at Rothch. & Co. orders. One that will possibly oversee the WWIII. Snowjob A$$ange, Mitnicks inc. & Co. etc etc probably means to same ends.
"Whole World Is A Stage". Who said thar btw?
It feals like zero hour is upon us, with every passing day.
Get safe MoAn's.
Get prepared.
Best wishes.

Posted by: Farben N.W 7 | Mar 7, 2017 1:36:56 PM | 7

Further to posts in previous thread and speaking to the specifics of your post b, from the cache:

Evading forensics and anti-virus

A series of standards lay out CIA malware infestation patterns which are likely to assist forensic crime scene investigators as well as Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung, Nokia, Blackberry, Siemens and anti-virus companies attribute and defend against attacks.

"Tradecraft DO's and DON'Ts" contains CIA rules on how its malware should be written to avoid fingerprints implicating the "CIA, US government, or its witting partner companies" in "forensic review". Similar secret standards cover the use of encryption to hide CIA hacker and malware communication (pdf), describing targets & exfiltrated data (pdf) as well as executing payloads (pdf) and persisting (pdf) in the target's machines over time.

CIA hackers developed successful attacks against most well known anti-virus programs. These are documented in AV defeats, Personal Security Products, Detecting and defeating PSPs and PSP/Debugger/RE Avoidance. For example, Comodo was defeated by CIA malware placing itself in the Window's "Recycle Bin". While Comodo 6.x has a "Gaping Hole of DOOM".

CIA hackers discussed what the NSA's "Equation Group" hackers did wrong and how the CIA's malware makers could avoid similar exposure.

'Fingerprints', 'patterns' & 'hiding' also refers to misdirecting/mis-attributing indicators/signatures/techniques to other nation State 'actors' re forensic reviews/analysis ...

From 'What did Equation (NSA) do wrong, and how can we avoid doing the same?'

2015-02-23 14:30 [User #1179751]:

I'd be interested to see if Kaspersky had picked up on it if they had used the standard constants? Obviously we'll never really be able to know the answer to that question, but does using PolarSSL, OpenSSL, MSFT, and other libraries present a signature problem for us or does it help us hide in the noise?

2015-02-23 10:03 [User #1179925]:

The "custom" crypto is more of NSA falling to its own internal policies/standards which came about in response to prior problems.

In the past there were crypto issues where people used 0 IV's and other miss-configurations. As a result the NSA crypto guys blessed one library as the correct implementation and every one was told to use that. unfortunately this implementation used the pre-computed negative versions of constants instead of the positive constants in the reference implementation.

I think this is something we need to really watch and not standardize our selves into the same problem...

'Unique' (actually non-unique) anything can relate tools to each other-- including strings, techniques, crypto or target countries. It's mostly subjective, but IMHO, next-gen tradecraft will require learning from these reports and will eventually involve end-to-end decisions from development to deployment to shutdown / upgrade.

(Considering the report mentions the tools may go back fourteen years, maybe we should be predicting and considering the PSPs of 2029!)...

2015-02-18 13:27 [User #1179925]:

Firstly, I'll start with a nitpicky thing. The Equation Group as labeled in the report does not relate to a specific group but rather a collection of tools (mostly TAO some IOC). Disregarding the fact that a lot of details about these tools were leaked, the larger issue seems not to be a single tool getting caught (that is a risk we'll never be able to fully mitigate). The bigger issue is in breaking ties between tools (or at a minimum tracking them), and not reusing tools with compromised techniques/exploits. My thought is that more tracking of techniques and tools (EDG can really only be responsible for tracking code in tools), can help us understand and be more proactive in preventing this issue...

As for what 'Equation' did wrong.... All their tools shared code. The custom RC5 was everywhere. The techniques for positive ID (hashing) was used in the same way in multiple tools across generations.

The shared code appears to be the largest single factor is allowing Kaspersky Labs(KL) to tie all these tools together. The acquisition and use of C&C domains was probably number 2 on the list, and I'm sure the COG infrastructure people are paying attention to this.

PS The cache includes gems such as the FULL Limited Distribution Kaspersky Labs report on the Equation Group (NSA) (in PDF) ;)

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 1:46:32 PM | 8

Species.

This would require a doctrine, he said, allowing Europe to introduce nuclear weapons to a non-nuclear conflict. He compared it to the Israeli program, which is believed to allow for a nuclear strike against an overwhelming conventional attack.

“These are political weapons. Their use must be unpredictable,” he said. Smaller nuclear powers often maintain vague doctrines to deter more powerful adversaries.

The goal, he said, would be to maintain Europe’s defense, seen as crucial for its internal unity, as well as its international diplomatic standing.

German lawmakers across the political spectrum worry that Mr. Trump could strike a grand bargain with Russia that excludes Europe, a potential first step toward Washington and Moscow dictating Europe’s future. Mr. Kiesewetter believes a European nuclear program would allow Europe to preserve its autonomy.

https://www.nytimes.com/2017/03/06/world/europe/european-union-nuclear-weapons.html?_r=0

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 7, 2017 1:49:30 PM | 9

To Farben. Rebels are reportedly digging tunnels in the Tabqa damn. An earthen damn north of Raqqa. Sitting on the Euphrates. Either a bit of dynamite or an earthquake would take out everything through Basra. It would not matter if it was an ISIS terrorist trying to wipe away and then rebuild the region as a caliphate or the deep state wishing to rebuild it for Exxon Mobile. Or even an act of God and another Great Flood.

Posted by: Zippy | Mar 7, 2017 2:05:29 PM | 10

Fine Dining

Fine Dining comes with a standardized questionnaire i.e menu that CIA case officers fill out. The questionnaire is used by the agency's OSB (Operational Support Branch) to transform the requests of case officers into technical requirements for hacking attacks (typically "exfiltrating" information from computer systems) for specific operations. The questionnaire allows the OSB to identify how to adapt existing tools for the operation, and communicate this to CIA malware configuration staff. The OSB functions as the interface between CIA operational staff and the relevant technical support staff.

Among the list of possible targets of the collection are 'Asset', 'Liason Asset', 'System Administrator', 'Foreign Information Operations', 'Foreign Intelligence Agencies' and 'Foreign Government Entities'. Notably absent is any reference to extremists or transnational criminals. The 'Case Officer' is also asked to specify the environment of the target like the type of computer, operating system used, Internet connectivity and installed anti-virus utilities (PSPs) as well as a list of file types to be exfiltrated like Office documents, audio, video, images or custom file types. The 'menu' also asks for information if recurring access to the target is possible and how long unobserved access to the computer can be maintained. This information is used by the CIA's 'JQJIMPROVISE' software (see below) to configure a set of CIA malware suited to the specific needs of an operation.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 2:06:58 PM | 11

@10
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If Putin does not enable SAA to block the Rand land grab,
One ponders if such was conceded already....
If so. ...then Russia is just roaming about testing weapons while appeasing Israel,the Saudi, The Turk...and Uncle Psycho Sam.

Posted by: Brad | Mar 7, 2017 2:41:01 PM | 12

b said:"Russia did not hack and leak the DNC emails, Iran did not hack American casinos and North Korea did not hack Sony."

You got it right b. This crap is all part of the scenario, to keep the "perpetual war state" in operation.

Posted by: ben | Mar 7, 2017 2:43:42 PM | 13

@12 Brad
Well done champion. You've rendered what ought to be an authoritative reference to cyber footprints nearly unreadable.

Give yourself an uppercut son.

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 7, 2017 2:51:24 PM | 14

To my minds eye it would appear that General Flynn was recorded talking to Russians while inside Trump Towers. Are you following me here? Another trap that the CIA has marched right into leading with the face. Boxers state that you never see the punch that knocks you out.

This entire string of events has quite the military Аромат about it. No?

Best Public entertainment since the old Colosseum days.

Just me opinion

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 7, 2017 3:27:17 PM | 15

I'm really glad that more people will finally start to doubt the phony attributions published by authorities.

In fact, if some cybersecurity firm hired by the DNC or John Brennan says that China did it, I would probably draw the opposite conclusion, that anybody but China did it.

Posted by: Joanne Leon | Mar 7, 2017 3:29:08 PM | 16

I don't watch much TV, so I'm not sure if they are able to gather themselves enough to talk about this. But online websites are pretty silent. CNN, Fox news, Yahoo news are ignoring the vault altogether. MSNBC seems to have dug up Michael Hayden to talk about how bad all this is. Well, at least they are mentioning bit. For the others the big story is the new Obamacare.

In fairness, if my mealticket was under threat, I might be pretty quiet too.

Posted by: Lysander | Mar 7, 2017 3:42:04 PM | 17

Have laws been passed that it is forbidden for US officials to speak with Russian officials?
http://www.paulcraigroberts.org/2017/03/03/done-paul-craig-roberts/

Posted by: From The Hague | Mar 7, 2017 3:50:04 PM | 18

December 12, 2016 Georgia Official Says Homeland Security Tried To Hack Their State’s Voter Database

While most of the country frets over Russia’s role in the 2016 election, the state of Georgia has come forward saying that they’ve traced an IP from a hack of their voter database right back to the offices of the Department of Homeland Security. Apparently we need to focus on protecting our vote from our own government. The Ring of Fire’s Farron Cousins discusses this.

https://trofire.com/2016/12/12/georgia-official-says-homeland-security-tried-hack-states-voter-database/

Posted by: Brian | Mar 7, 2017 3:52:14 PM | 19

It's OK. The Guardian has clarified everything. Wikileaks is working with the Russians.

"The latest WikiLeaks document dump about the CIA’s computer hacking tools is being viewed in Washington as just the most recent
skirmish in a struggle between US and Russian intelligence services –
a fight in which WikiLeaks is widely seen as sitting firmly in Moscow’s corner."

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2017/mar/07/wikileaks-cia-documents-us-russia-conflict

Posted by: dh | Mar 7, 2017 4:03:38 PM | 20

[deleted - b.]

Posted by: Take Me | Mar 7, 2017 4:19:18 PM | 21

[deleted - b.]

Posted by: Take Me | Mar 7, 2017 4:32:13 PM | 22

Most definitely an inside job. It's pretty obvious by now that the Deep State has a leakage problem. Everyone who can leak in America is leaking, and to presume that a figure as polarizing and hated as Hillary Clinton needed Russia's help to get exposed in all of her ugliness is just plain idiotic.

Posted by: telescope | Mar 7, 2017 5:38:48 PM | 23

b: 'Russia did not hack and leak the DNC emails, Iran did not hack American casinos and North Korea did not hack Sony.
As we wrote: "there is NEVER a clear attribution". Don't fall for it when someone tries to sell one.'

To be fair... it seems equally difficult to deny attribution as to claim it, don't you think? Maybe Russia carried out the hacks, maybe not, all we can be sure of is that the accusation has not been confirmed.

Posted by: sigil | Mar 7, 2017 5:52:20 PM | 24

[deleted - b.]

Posted by: Take Me | Mar 7, 2017 6:09:58 PM | 25

b. you are attracting automated sock puppets again :-))

Posted by: dh | Mar 7, 2017 4:03:38 PM | 20

It is obvious that any foreign secret service would not publish this - but use it.

Making it public will stop a lot of this.

Posted by: somebody | Mar 7, 2017 6:27:44 PM | 26

somebody @ #26 again demonstrating Germans don't 'do' irony.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 7, 2017 6:39:04 PM | 27

Watch it somebody. I'm the longest standing sockpuppet on the board. Been sockpuppeting since billmon.

Posted by: dh | Mar 7, 2017 6:52:48 PM | 28

A link here from SST. Political Analyst and Fmr. US Army Psychological Warfare Officer, Scott Bennett in a debate on PressTV. If what he is saying is true which it seems to be, then Trump (and Sessions) know exactly what he is up against and his tweet on Obama phone tapping was not just a shot in the dark
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GQqXgug69qw&feature=youtu.be

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 7, 2017 7:08:01 PM | 29

Cyber arms proliferation and cyber arms race is on par with the nuclear arms race.
There will be no end to the escalation and rapid evolution of cyber weaponry to fuel cold war,
military warfare and rampant mistrust between nations, between people and their government,
inciting widespread paranoia among nations' people (cyber psyops) to use for regime change purposes,
and this of course represents an end to privacy rights for all.

There's no undoing this now -- this is a bad genie that can't be put back. The U.S. created a cyber
monster it can't control. This is what absolute domination/control breeds and what the future
holds. This has the power to destroy us because unlike nuclear proliferation that is more difficult to
hide, the operatives involved in cyber warfare are attacking in the shadows and not on an open global
stage, and because they can cover their tracks, they have an unlimited license to unleash chaos, destruction
and hell.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 7, 2017 8:30:02 PM | 30

Perhaps the day 1 releases from wikileaks will reveal exactly how the CIA perverted a misguided joint NIH/DARPA initiative to use subliminal AV stimuli as a way of economically distributing a form of anti-psychotic 'medication'. The improved version turns paranoid psychotics into irredeemable racists if they use truth telling sites such as MoA.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 7, 2017 9:06:14 PM | 31

Former NSA Whistleblower: ‘Trump Absolutely Right He Was Wiretapped’


Binney also told Sean Hannity’s radio show earlier Monday, “I think the FISA court’s basically totally irrelevant.” The judges on the FISA court are “not even concerned, nor are they involved in any way with the Executive Order 12333 collection,” Binney said during the radio interview. “That’s all done outside of the courts. And outside of the Congress.”

Binney also told Fox the laws that fall under the FISA court’s jurisdiction are “simply out there for show” and “trying to show that the government is following the law, and being looked at and overseen by the Senate and House intelligence committees and the courts.”

“That’s not the main collection program for NSA,” Binney said…

Posted by: virgile | Mar 7, 2017 9:25:07 PM | 32

@ Posted by: dh | Mar 7, 2017 6:52:48 PM | 28

Absolutely. can confirm dh has been sock-puppetting hisself since the days of Billmon, hell, even before Stalinist Fruitcake was served ... You go girl!, boy, whatever. ;))

In the same spirit, it's my privilege to pass on to y'all that the 'Deep State' doesn't exist, HOORAY! It's all just a wacky tinfoil hat conspiracy theory, and a further opportunity to sustain the 'narrative':

What is the 'Deep State' and how does it influence Donald Trump?

Once the province of conspiracy theorists, it has gained increasing prominence as scandals have engulfed the new President's administration

...“The notion that there’s a grand conspiracy which involves state and non-state actors such as the oil and defence industries I think is pushing the boundaries of credibility,” Dr Paul McGarr, Assistant Professor in US Foreign Policy at the University of Nottingham, told The Independent. “I don’t think there’s any evidence which has ever been produced to substantiate those claims

For one intelligence official, the concept was laughable. “The deep what?” they told Buzzfeed News...

*sigh* I'm so very re-assured, however, what the hell was one doing in service of it for the better part of ones life then ? Don't recall ever takin' LSD ...

Yet FDR, Ike, JFK, the Church Committee, et al may disagree ...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 9:35:43 PM | 33

In the interests of continuing on with posting whatever OT shit comes to mind, I offer From Mother Jones to Middlebury: The Problem and Promise of Political Violence in Trump’s America .
This is a great essay especially considering the source (foreign policy dot com). I confess it had me from the first para which tells of the unfortunately long forgotten 'Battle of Blair Mountain' (Gene Debs is indeed dead so it is crazy to imagine any of the actions of amerikan socialists would ever live on), but the essay gets right to the nub of the issue when it dismisses bourgeois concern over nasty, grimy & 'prole' violence and replaces that with a practical determinant, will it work?

Political violence will not overthrow the government, but tactics are measured by objectives, and overthrowing the whole apparatus of the state is not the only objective on offer. It is rarely the objective at all. While Blair Mountain failed, the coal wars at large, fought in fields and mines and factories, provoked the political courage of the whole working class, forcing concessions and culminating in the National Labor Relations Act. And the triumphs need not be so superlative. Often, political violence only wants to make a point, to serve as agitprop, to achieve a single destructive goal and be finished. You do not need supply lines or medical facilities in order to show that these new white nationalists can’t take a punch. You do not need to defeat the Marine Corps in order to turn a thousand television cameras on your town and make the nation ask what conditions would inspire you to burn it. Riots succeed as often as they fail.
.

This is a lengthy essay and needs time to consider all the points it makes, nevertheless those who live in a world where a militarized police force is an accepted reality should find consideration of those points essential before embarking on a strategy which includes the use of violence.
As I have frequently pointed out, we may have given away our rights by ticking the wrong boxes but it is impossible to conceive a situation where that which was lost will be returned by ticking the 'correct' boxes.

Posted by: Debsisdead | Mar 7, 2017 9:58:26 PM | 34

Lately, one or both of the sidebars has been disappearing when you click to read the full story or comments, or the left sidebar varies in size, always too small. Could you please fix your code so that the proper style sheet is always in place?
Reading is more efficient when you don't have to do a wide back and forth scan.

Posted by: EdMOA | Mar 7, 2017 10:31:53 PM | 35

@34 I read through that essay. It's hard to imagine anything like Blair Mountain happening now. BLM seems to have come up against a wall. Young hoodie wearers smashing shop windows don't generate much empathy.

Maybe I missed it but I didn't see any reference to Kent State. Students there were protesting the Vietnam War. They weren't violent but violence was done to them. Some of them were shot by the National Guard.

In a strange way they made their point. The war did end. Maybe the fact that they were mostly white middle class kids (not wearing hoodies) was the deciding factor.

Posted by: dh | Mar 7, 2017 10:37:54 PM | 36

Jim Stone's letter to American Intelligence. Not happy.

http://82.221.129.208/baaasepaged2.html

1. It does not matter what agency you work for, you are a proven enemy of the United States because you never came clean on 911. Trump gets a pass on this because he knows the truth about 911, a fact clearly shown by him stating the buildings were demolished, But he can't come out in the open with it at this point because it is political suicide.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 7, 2017 10:51:44 PM | 37

RAOTFLMFAO!

From the cache:

Navigation: » Directory » Operational Support Branch (OSB) » OSB Home » OSB Passwords

Owner: User #7995631
OSB Passwords

SECRET//NOFORN

OSB's ESXi Server

OSB unclass laptop #1 password (tag 2005K676, Dell service tag: 7731Y32): "OSBDemoLap9W53!" (Without quotes)

OSB unclass laptop #2 password (tag 2005K677, Dell service tag: CN81Y32): "0sbP@ss" (no quotes, first chracter is a zero)

"I changed all my passwords to 'Incorrect'. So whenever I forget, it will tell me 'Your password is Incorrect' - (Image/Gif)
...

2015-01-30 15:10 [User #14588054]:

I noticed, but I still cringed when I first saw the page.

2015-01-30 14:50 [User #7995631]:

Its locked down to the OSB group... idk if that helps.

2015-01-30 14:30 [User #14588054]:

Am I the only one who looked at this page and thought, "I wonder if security would have a heart attack if they saw this."?

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 10:57:50 PM | 38

dh 36

US boots in body bags end wars. It is the only time US so called citizens get off their fat arses in any numbers to protest war.

US boots in body bags is the best way to end latterday wars.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 7, 2017 11:07:34 PM | 39

All those years, 5,000+ staff & contractors, over $100Billion USD 'off the books', and the ENTIRE internal data repository of the illegal covert Cyber Division has been publicly compromised ... LOL

Navigation: » Directory » Network Devices Branch (NDB) » Network Devices Branch » Lab Demonstrations

Owner: User #11629142
Lab Demonstrations
NDB Demos

Panda Poke - Huawei credless exploit
Drillbit - Cisco HG Covert Tunnel (available on router or switch)
VOIP - Huawei VOIP Collection
MITM - Cisco HG redirection integrated with Windex
Panda Flight - Huawei Covert Tunnel
AAC (DIVRT & SMITE) - Cisco HG iframe injection integration w/ Windex & DNS record tampering
ROCEM - Cisco catalyst HG credless exploit
Cinnamon (Redirection & Network Survey) - Cisco Cinnamon web page redirection
IAC & SPL V10
HG VOIP
HG Curveball
PaPr/PaNs

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 11:13:27 PM | 40

To add a bit to 39

Obummar was inserted into the white house because of US boots being returned to sender from Iraq. He did a great job for the deep state/powers that be. Pulled some troops out of Iraq/Afghanistan, led from behind using proxies, facilitated the rise of ISIS - along with their professional media marketing - to get US boots back in. Destroyed Libya and nearly destroyed Syria, leading from behind, with virtually no US boots in bodybags. US boots and lots of em in bodybags seems to cure a lot of problems.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 7, 2017 11:34:35 PM | 41

Mr. Trump can put this BS to bed. So, why doesn't he?

https://theintercept.com/2017/03/04/if-trump-tower-was-wiretapped-trump-can-declassify-that-right-now/

Posted by: ben | Mar 7, 2017 11:38:17 PM | 42

Re false attribution & False Flags ... quite extensive effort, numerous embedded links to articles, references & declassified docu ...

The Ever-Growing List of ADMITTED False Flag Attacks(Zerohedge)

...(20) A declassified 1973 CIA document reveals(PDF) a program to train foreign police and troops on how to make booby traps, pretending that they were training them on how to investigate terrorist acts:

The Agency maintains liaison in varying degrees with foreign police/security organizations through its field stations ….
[CIA provides training sessions as follows:]

a. Providing trainees with basic knowledge in the uses of commercial and military demolitions and incendiaries as they may be applied in terrorism and industrial sabotage operations.

b. Introducing the trainees to commercially available materials and home laboratory techniques, likely to he used in the manufacture of explosives and incendiaries by terrorists or saboteurs.

c. Familiarizing the trainees with the concept of target analysis and operational planning that a saboteur or terrorist must employ.

d. Introducing the trainees to booby trapping devices and techniques giving practical experience with both manufactured and improvised devices through actual fabrication.

The program provides the trainees with ample opportunity to develop basic familiarity and use proficiently through handling, preparing and applying the various explosive charges, incendiary agents, terrorist devices and sabotage techniques...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 7, 2017 11:51:46 PM | 43

The US crap is never ending. It was only the Iraqi PMU's that prevented ISIS from evacuating Mosul to attack and take Deir Ezzor with a wink and a nod from the US.

https://southfront.org/us-trains-iraqi-special-forces-that-could-be-used-to-eliminate-commanders-of-popular-mobilization-units-unconfirmed/
According to the website, only 50 of the trained servicemen became members of the Tiger Unit. Their main task is to eliminate PMU commanders, especially those, who are opposed to the US army’s presence in Iraq.
The news came after last month commander of Asa’eb al-Haq Movement, affiliated to the Iraqi PMU, Javad al-Talaybawi, said that the US forces have been trying to evacuate commanders of the Islamic State (IS) terrorist group from the besieged city of Tal Afar, located to the west of Mosul. The statement was made after photos, showing the US forces, assisting IS terrorists, were published by a number of media.

At the same time, a member of Iraqi Parliament’s Security and Defense Commission, Iskandar Watut, called for an investigation of photos and videos, showing US planes, dropping aid packages over IS-held regions. The parliamentarian noted that US planes several times dropped packages of food stuff, arms and other necessary items over IS-held regions, as well as called on the Iraqi air defense to watch out planes of the US-led coalition.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 8, 2017 12:46:16 AM | 44

Debsisdead, you are the enemy too. I've had it with left-wing violence in this country.

You are quite stupid to court civil war with the rest of us.

Posted by: RudyM | Mar 8, 2017 1:45:38 AM | 45

The solution is not on the left. Some sort of moderate nationalism is looking better and better every day.

Posted by: RudyM | Mar 8, 2017 2:04:41 AM | 46

Wow, so the Russian hacks were a load of bullshit? Color me surprised... the whole purpose of that fun little exercise seems to be a justification for cracking down on "fake news", meaning any media outlet that doesn't tow the party line. What's worse do you think, having the outcome of this intra-elite war be a victory of the Soros/Finance wing or the Koch/Petrochemical wing? On the one hand, a rainbow flag draped smiley face empire or an American flag draped herrenvolk one?

Posted by: Almand | Mar 8, 2017 2:15:43 AM | 47

But even if the hack stories are nonsense, it doesn't change the fact that the Russians are winning the psychological war they've been waging on the West. The Soviet Union lost the PR war in round one, but thanks to their savvy they are getting their revenge. By supporting the European far right and stoking the paranoia of Western nationalists, they've created a reality where the hidden hand of the Jew moves swarthy hordes into their cities to rape their women. Just as the Russians learned that the rock 'n' roll blue jeans fantasy of capitalist plenty was a cruel joke, once the rotten edifice of the Anglo-American system comes tumbling down, the defenders of Western civilization will find themselves re-enslaved by whatever regime rises from the ashes.
The idiot globalists and their liberal lackeys will never understand that they will inevitably lose because nobody buys their propaganda anymore, and by pimping this insane Russophobia they are creating a self-fulfilling prophecy of a powerful Russia leading Christendom. Given the choice between national pride and abject humiliation, the silent majority will always choose the former. If you can't offer your own people something to believe in, someone else will. The marketplace of ideas indeed.

Posted by: Almand | Mar 8, 2017 3:02:13 AM | 48

Posted by: Almand | Mar 8, 2017 3:02:13 AM | 48

I don't see what you see.

Gallup historical trends - Russia

Posted by: somebody | Mar 8, 2017 5:36:42 AM | 49

Looks like that Cyber False Flag, which would of attacked those corrupt Wall Street banks and wiped away trillions in assets and blamed on Russia so the TBTF banks could walk away from their crimes, will now be put on hold or canceled.
Does that mean a 'hot war' with Russia, again to cover up the nefarious activities of those Wall Street casinos, is now back on the front burner?

Posted by: Greg Bacon | Mar 8, 2017 6:07:04 AM | 50

For sure the msm wont dare to recall aleppo

http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/259519/World/Region/Mosul-families-huddle-at-home-terrified-of-IS-mili.aspx

Even when the latest un report on syria had paragraphs on the use of the residenrs as human shields and the stealing by the moderates of the humanitarian help for storage

Posted by: Mina | Mar 8, 2017 6:07:55 AM | 51

I'm freaking out over my Windows 7.....

Posted by: notlurking | Mar 8, 2017 6:40:53 AM | 52

So the Republicans blame the Russians for hacking the DNC when there is no evidence even though the FBI, NSA and CIA have been extensively looking for it. Meanwhile, the Republicans will not investigate Trump's claims because there is no evidence, which is hardly surprising given that nobody has looked for it. Makes me think that the Republicans are just as much a part of the swamp as the Democrats.

Top Republicans refuse to back up Trump's unproven wiretapping claim

Mitch McConnell and Devin Nunes said they hadn’t seen evidence to support baseless allegations that Barack Obama wiretapped Trump during the election

While the White House on Tuesday stood by Donald Trump’s assertion that he was wiretapped by Barack Obama during the 2016 presidential campaign, top Republicans on Capitol Hill provided little support to bolster his explosive and unsubstantiated claim.

Mitch McConnell, the Senate majority leader, said he had not seen any evidence to back up a series of tweets by Trump on Saturday that accused Obama of wiretapping his phones at Trump Tower.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 8, 2017 7:32:14 AM | 53

>>>> Almand | Mar 8, 2017 3:02:13 AM | 48

it doesn't change the fact that the Russians are winning the psychological war they've been waging on the West.

Which psychological war is that? The one that involves telling the truth while the West lies? That's the West waging psychological war on the Russians and losing. If the EU goes down the shitter it'll be because of incompetence among the morons of the Washington political elite including Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. Putin wants the EU to survive because if it doesn't it'll probably be up to the Russians to sort out the mess again, 'cos the US hegemony is built on destabilising any potential competitors.

The Soviet Union lost the PR war in round one
Your evidence for this is probably as solid as that used to condemn the Russians for hacking the DNC and Podesta e-mails. The Soviet Union started out by winning the propaganda war. Why do you think Roosevelt introduced the New Deal? Out of the kindness of his heart? No, because as a capitalist he was scared shitless that the United States would go communist. Fear of communism kept American capitalism in check until the faults in the Soviet system became too visible which is why the 1% have been dumping on the middle class for the best part of 40 years.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 8, 2017 7:46:11 AM | 54

>>>> Almand | Mar 8, 2017 3:02:13 AM | 48

it doesn't change the fact that the Russians are winning the psychological war they've been waging on the West.

Which psychological war is that? The one that involves telling the truth while the West lies? That's the West waging psychological war on the Russians and losing. If the EU goes down the shitter it'll be because of incompetence among the morons of the Washington political elite including Hillary Clinton and John Kerry. Putin wants the EU to survive because if it doesn't it'll probably be up to the Russians to sort out the mess again, 'cos the US hegemony is built on destabilising any potential competitors.

The Soviet Union lost the PR war in round one
Your evidence for this is probably as solid as that used to condemn the Russians for hacking the DNC and Podesta e-mails. The Soviet Union started out by winning the propaganda war. Why do you think Roosevelt introduced the New Deal? Out of the kindness of his heart? No, because as a capitalist he was scared shitless that the United States would go communist. Fear of communism kept American capitalism in check until the faults in the Soviet system became too visible which is why the 1% have been dumping on the middle class for the best part of 40 years.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 8, 2017 7:46:11 AM | 55

>>>> Peter AU | Mar 8, 2017 12:46:16 AM | 44

The US crap is never ending. It was only the Iraqi PMU's that prevented ISIS from evacuating Mosul to attack and take Deir Ezzor with a wink and a nod from the US.

Normally I'd agree with you but recently there has been subtle change. The Iraqi Air Force is flying interdiction missions over Deir Ez-zor Governorate using US-gathered intelligence. To free up elements of the Iraqi ir Force to do this, the USAF seems to flying more support missions over Mosul. Meanwhile the RuAF and SAAF elements freed up by the Iraqi Air Forces involvement around Deir Ez-zor seem to be providing air support to the Kurdish forces around Manbij, which would be difficult for the USAF to do out of Incirlik. So, Trump can claim that the USAF is not helping the SAA while liquidating ISIS instead of using it for regime change in Damascus. Perhaps all the noise in Washington is a smoke screen for this change.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 8, 2017 8:03:00 AM | 56

on the masterful writer's review of violence


The police alone are sufficiently militarized to crush any uprising, and the response to any sufficiently serious uprising would not end with the police.

i certainly agree with that take.

We have made great progress, in this country, confining political violence to the place beyond the pale. In ordinary discourse, it is beyond even the uncivil and unwise; there is no recourse that provokes more ready condemnation. But this only heightens its significance. If violence is an extraordinary recourse, then its use signifies extraordinary circumstances, affirming the abnormality and urgency of its conditions.

so which is the extraordinary circumstance, and who percieves is as such? the knee-jerk answer is that it is tee-rump that is the extraordinary circumstance in the perception of the decent people of the usofa ...

In the name of global security, drones whistle their impersonal homicides in the skies above Pakistan. Federal marshals return runaway slaves. Strikebreakers fire down the mountain at miners.

but i don't think so. i think it is the loss of power by the people who were sure they had seen 'the end of politics' and the collapse of their own apotheosis that was the extraordinary circumstance, in their perception, and that the imagined consequences of their loss of control of ... everything ... for they need to control everything, especially the 'ordinary discourse' ... because they've become liars, murderers, and war criminals in this new american century and will reap the desserts of their crimes when they lose control of everything ... they are the ones inciting, hiring, sanctioning violence ...

But sanctioned brutality is the constant ambience of our republic and our empire. It is with us all the time.

... and now they are merely bringing their imperial solution back home.

Somewhere between sanctioned and unsanctioned brutality, there is a liminal kind, officially condemned but operating in the service of sanctioned power.

The liminal violence of the right exists within a framework of the permissible: a nation that implies through its rhetoric and its legal habits that while it isn’t saying this is allowed, take care not to get caught, or be too obvious, and you stand a good chance of getting off.


... of getting off ... and of getting paid, if you're a cop, a drone maker, a spy, a drone assassin ...

Neither unsanctioned nor sanctioned, this liminal violence is a third kind, the unsanctioned violence of pure will. Its actors see a world slipping away or changing, a state insufficiently committed to their preferences. Their violence is political, but it is not for or against official power. It is for their own power, of which there is never enough.

... he's a masterful writer all right, takes us around in a circle. at least he quotes a real master of writing ...

“There were two ‘Reigns of Terror,’” Mark Twain wrote of the French Revolution.

“The one wrought murder in hot passion, the other in heartless cold blood; the one lasted mere months, the other had lasted a thousand years; the one inflicted death upon ten thousand persons, the other upon a hundred millions; but our shudders are all for the ‘horrors’ of the minor Terror, the momentary Terror.”


i do think that even the cops alone are enough now to kill us all ... enough of us to break our incipient union. so we'd be fools to purposefully set out on the violent path. even - especially - when we're offered money to do so. i think we must work methodically to seize power, effect real change, and to deal with the response when it comes, whatever it is. we must master ourselves from the very start, gather ourselves together now ... we certainly won't be able to do so later on if we don't do it now.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8, 2017 8:15:01 AM | 57

Lysander 17
Colbert had Hayden on last night. Hayden said insisted they are not spying on us through our TV and insisted that FISA is followed. He also said they needed these weapons because the American people want them to go after the bad guys. Yep. And Obama said the govt does not listen to our phone calls. Tell that to those Americans in the Green Zone who called Americans back home who had their calls listened to.

b
Russian Govt Cyber attack. Hillary Clinton was neocons calling for retaliatory military action against Russia for cyber attacks. They love having that option on the table as well as the disinfo.

virgile 32
Ron Paul and Corbett Report have videos explaining that Trump may be right. At least some of the MSM will mention the two FISA requests - one refused and one granted.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 9:33:17 AM | 58

ben 42
One of the odd things Hayden mentioned on Colbert last night was that Trump, by mentioning certain things had automatically declassified them.

(disclaimer: I do not normally stay up late to watch MSM stooges like Colbert but I was up - thnx to earlier cafffeine - and curious to what Hayden might say even if he is an insider.)

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 9:36:24 AM | 59

I just got on Moon after trying several times by clicking on my established link. Site not available. I then tried going in through googling "moon of alabama" and succeeded. However, suddenly, the screen went blank and the site not available message came up.

Anyone else having problems?

I will now try to read through the comments to see if the issue has been brought up.

My, what a coincidence -- this particular topic and post, and the sudden unavailability....

Oh, using Chrome on iMac.

AND...strange message came up when I tried to post this comment.

Posted by: jawbone | Mar 8, 2017 9:37:50 AM | 60

Ghostship @ 53 said:"Makes me think that the Republicans are just as much a part of the swamp as the Democrats."

Yep, that's a fact. The two parties in America have been playing " Good Cop, Bad Cop" for many years now. And, behind the scenes, taking corporate money to craft laws favorable for the giant corporations instead of rank and file Americans.

Posted by: ben | Mar 8, 2017 10:47:32 AM | 61

jawbone 59

I had a similar problem. screen running up and down like I was rolling the mouse wheel up and down. Using a Samsung android device for a modem. Pissed it off and dug out another modem. Problem fixed. Then I get get on the internet and see all this stuff on vault 7.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 8, 2017 10:50:02 AM | 62

>>>> Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 9:36:24 AM | 58

..Trump, by mentioning certain things had automatically declassified them.

As head of the executive, it's his prerogative to decide what is and what isn't classified, so he could declassify any information that is being kept secret about the alleged hacking of DNC and Podesta e-mails by the Russians. It's also his prerogative, I believe, to define foreign policy so he is free to decide what relations with Russia should be. I hope he understands the power he has.

Posted by: Ghostship | Mar 8, 2017 11:19:58 AM | 63

Last night March 7, 2017 a black and white movie starring Sterling Hayden was run on TV. The bad guys were Russian spies. PBS TV ran an interview with a Syrian filmmaker who along with an Syrian woman stated repeatedly that Dr. Assad was guilty of war crimes and crimes against humanity. Right out of CIA Central Casting.

Apparently the people who schedule our approved reality are in Cold War II mode. Only Trump isn't playing it like the Gipper. Interesting times directly ahead.

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 8, 2017 11:29:52 AM | 64

Remember when Obama and Biden said the US would respond to Russian hacking by a covert cyber campaign against Russia. So either they committed a deeply cynical false flag or they did not know what their own agencies were doing. They clearly were stupid or incompetent. or both

Posted by: Ike | Mar 8, 2017 12:29:59 PM | 65

Hm, the HTML content is heavily edited/redacted, the real treasure trove in this cache are the PDFs & images(Jpgs/Pngs), astounding content ... Go to \WikiLeaks-Year-Zero-2017-v1\year0\vault7\cms\files directory.

Examples (nil/limited tech knowledge presumed):

editsymbols1.jpg
Hive Test infrastructure.jpg
Image2015-5-20 12_8_8.png
Triclops 2015 - Securing Our Equity.pdf (TS/SI/USA/CAN/GBR)
Rain Maker v1.0 User Guide.doc.pdf (S/NF)
NOD Cryptographic Requirements v1.1 TOP SECRET.pdf (TS/SI/NF)

This will have literally crippled the CIA Cyber Division, compromised other 5-Eyes agencies associated/partnered efforts and be a boon for outfits such as Kaspersky Labs(KL).

For example, KL will now be able to uniquely finger previously documented attacks by unidentified actors globally, such as NSA & CIA targeting the 5+1 members re the Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA), known commonly as the 'Iran nuclear deal' communications/meetings/negotiations ... elements of this cache now conclusively prove extensive and extended cyber attacks and surveillance by both NSA & CIA Cyber Division can be attributed re uniques such as 'Duqu 2.0' code.

State actors will now be able to identify & attribute previous unknown acts/sabotage/penetrations/exfiltration going back up to 14 years ... orders of magnitude more significant than the decryption of a portion of historical Soviet secure comms that were decrypted re Venona ... priceless!

How many $100's of Billions USD down the drain ? And this is ... only ... Part 1 ?! LOL

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 8, 2017 12:30:27 PM | 66

@65 Much to lol and ruminate about, much to digest, and much indigestion, depending on what principles one has given one's soul to. The MSM and others not covering the wikileaks CIA dump are becoming more and more conspicuous by their absences: The words NYT or CNN etc are transmuting into gag lines: comic magnets: sure laughs.

Posted by: canuck | Mar 8, 2017 12:43:03 PM | 67

Correction: Dishonest or incompetent.

Posted by: Ike | Mar 8, 2017 12:52:37 PM | 68

15 minute video. Fairly decent and basic explanation of Vault7 and CIA situation.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i8-oBsxqg-g

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 8, 2017 12:58:11 PM | 69

Mr. Trump can put this BS to bed. So, why doesn't he? ben at 42. (with ref. to an Intercept article.)

It appears to me that the attack against Trump is multi-pronged: Color revol. stuff instigated, organised, by the Dems, Soros, that kind of crowd, > *pink hats*, etc. Other, such as personal vilification (grabbing whatever, he is racist, …), note, is abandoned for now. I’m leaving all that aside.

What we see here is the ‘elites’ / ‘the PTB’, insiders who have enormous control, attacking Trump on anything that can be put forward to the public by so-called experts or authorities that smack of Trump treason, or at a lower level, putative un-American stances, attitudes, actions.

These attacks concentrate on Trump admin. links with Russia (note the deathly silence about what is going on in Syria), as Russia is the enemy du jour, for many reasons, one of them being merely that it is far off and does not involve complex oppositions or ties (compare Israel, KSA, China ..)

Hacking - mysterious to most of the populace - ‘wire-tapping’ - legally complex and confusing in many ways - provides a good opportunity. The aim is to get the public on board, furnish them with talking points, ‘beliefs, hearfelt arguments’; to force Trump into an uncoordinated, outraged and defensive position where he will make mistakes— which has apparently succeeded to some degree —, and generally create a shit-storm around an issue that is pretty empty of content (see b., thx for the round up.)

Distraction! While the Night of the Long Knives, errr, weeks not night, takes place behind the scenes. Who hacked whom and how is not crucial, rather, who holds what information bomb in their VAULT and how they might, or not, use it, or could be prevented from doing so, and so on. For the public, media-hype against Trump (MSM sub-set of PTB, say) has to be kept up under any pretext, anything will serve.


Posted by: Noirette | Mar 8, 2017 1:04:14 PM | 70

On the thesis that "Russian hackers" may well sit in Virginia:

Wikileaks' CIA hacking dump sends tech firms scrambling for fixes

U.S. cyber security expert Robert Graham said Wikileaks provided enough detail to recognize some known vulnerabilities.

"One anti-virus researcher has told me that a virus they once suspected came from the Russians or Chinese can now be attributed to the CIA, as it matches the description perfectly to something in the leak," Graham said in a blog post.


So one false flag virus attack vector has been found. The CIA covered itself as "Russian". More to come ...

Posted by: b | Mar 8, 2017 1:25:47 PM | 71

Migrant riot in Sweden...blame Russia!
http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/03/08/danish-media-accuses-russian-media-swedish-riot/

The western media's conspriacy theories and paranoia about Moscow is dangerous and sickening.

Posted by: Thomm | Mar 8, 2017 1:30:50 PM | 72

@68

Arrogance and hubris. Around the time or just after Russia faced the US down in Syria, there was a fair amount of bragging about US cyber capabilities and how much superior they were to any adversaries. Also Obama's threats against Russia. Since then we have seen shadow brokers placing NSA hacking tools on the open net, and now wikileaks with CIA hacking tools. So much for the great cyber warriors.
I guess this will take the wind out of a few neo-con sails even if they don't admit it.

Posted by: Peter AU | Mar 8, 2017 1:31:37 PM | 73

"Every single judge on the FISA Court as of today was appointed during Obama’s Presidency!"

http://investmentwatchblog.com/former-ag-loretta-lynch-approved-trump-wiretap-faces-prosecution/

If it is established that Obama did not meet the Constitutional prerequisites required of a person who assumes the title of President/Commander in Chief, will all of his appointments enacted during his two terms be deemed Unconstitutional? Perjury.

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 8, 2017 1:33:16 PM | 74

Outraged@66: How many $100's of Billions USD down the drain ? And this is ... only ... Part 1 ?! LOL

Yeah, it's gotta be like the whole poppy crop from last year. At this rate, we'll never get out of Afghanistan (as if we ever intended to).

Posted by: woogs | Mar 8, 2017 1:35:21 PM | 75

@69 ALberto
The takeaway I got from that about halfway through was not just the primary damage to the IC, via high crime by the rogue CIA, but mostly the secondary and potentially greater damage to big tech commerce.

Don't remember the response after Snowden...? Went something like:
Wired - Aug 2013 - Tech Companies and Government May Soon Go to War Over Surveillance

Apple, Microsoft, Google, Samsung to name the obvious, major-brand few are gonna be mighty pissed (maybe an honourable mention for Apple due to their escalating battle with the FBI)
- sitting around an oval table, chumming it up with Obama and The Zuck talking 'you scratch my back wink wink' is now a galaxy far, far away now.

The market pressure in could well cause a massive fracture in the bond between corporation and state that Barry'O spent so much time cultivating.

Caveat emptor an' all...

Posted by: MadMax2 | Mar 8, 2017 2:02:33 PM | 76

ALberto 69
Interesting video.
That and the comments here raise further points:
1) Last year, software exploits were released that were supposedly connected to the NSA. Are the CIA ones connected?
https://www.rpost.com/blog/shadow-brokers-release-nsa-hacking-tools-public/
2) The woman in the video compares this to Snowden leaks but I thought this was part of the Snowden leaks? Or did they come from somewhere else?
3) And what about the occasional legit use to spy on real enemies? As Outraged pointed out, it's US Govt money that paid for the research. So the US had not only funded something only to virtually give that tech away (or lose it) but it lost the upper hand in any future legit use. At the same time, the US has given anybody/everybody weapons to use against us. It's back to that usual question: Are they corrupt, inept, or both?
4) If this big reveal did come from Snowden, it's a big argument for treason charges. The 3 NSA whistleblowers interviewed by USA Today years ago said that if Snowden revealed abuses against US citizens then he's the hero, but if he's revealed spy techniques to adversaries, then his acts are treasonous.
5) Our computers, cellphones, and ioT devices are not very secure. People should be very wary.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 2:04:12 PM | 77

@70

You gave ben a convoluted response that doesn't at all answer the question of why Trump doesn't declassify the wiretapping intelligence.

Chris Stewart, Republican Congressman on the Intelligence
Committee who is also a Trump supporter, was considered for the Secretary of the Air Force position and who stated that Trump didn't just pull this wiretapping allegation out of think air also urged Trump to declassify the intelligence.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yR8ADUt41lE

See minute 2:25 where he specifically states it's better if the President declassifies this information now.

So a member of Trump's party on the Intelligence Committee thinks he should declassify and that it's important to do so. So WHY isn't he doing it? Why the hell isn't he jumping on this opportunity and getting proof out there???

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8, 2017 2:05:43 PM | 78

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-mideast-crisis-iraq-baghdadi-idUSKBN16F1DF
Islamic State leader Baghdadi abandons Mosul fight to field commanders, U.S. and Iraqi sources say.

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 8, 2017 2:09:57 PM | 79

http://www.reuters.com/article/us-cia-wikileaks-idUSKBN16F2AP
U.S. officials aware of CIA security breach in 2016, say WikiLeaks papers authentic

Posted by: okie farmer | Mar 8, 2017 2:12:33 PM | 80

There is a huge difference between the Vietnam war and current ones. I would like to believe that we left Vietnam (the US that is) either because we lost that war, or because so many lives were lost and the popular will against it became so intense that politicians were forced to stop fighting, but now I think neither was the case.

The true case was simply that they ran out of money. The financial system had not yet been put in place that rewards failure. Once it was, and the 'there is no alternative' electronic connections were globally in place, it didn't, doesn't matter how many bombs are dropped because the system rewards failure; the system lives on failure. That's the 'deep state' we have now and we didn't have it back then. You couldn't short the Vietnam war; it was loss/loss - because of all the pesky regulations that needed to be (and were) done away with. But these wars? Hey, they are moneymakers!

For a while it worked, but it is working no longer. The more they stole (the house always wins, remember?) the more they got found out. b's posts are revealing that nothing is secure any longer; everything is and can be found out, and that means everything is and can be messed with, including our, every one of us, our personal lives. It is already beginning.

Don't panic. The sun rises and sets on its own schedule; it's not programmed by the ptb. So the system finally doesn't work, for everyone? We CAN make that a good thing.

Or our kids will.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 8, 2017 2:25:33 PM | 82

Curtis 77 (me)
The latest wikileaks are attributed to one they call Snowden 2.0.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 2:26:41 PM | 83

Circe 78
Trump may be following in the footsteps of those before him, particularly Obama. It's one thing to promise transparency during a political campaign and a different matter once they are in office. We can give Trump a little bit of time but he needs to act.

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 2:29:58 PM | 84

It's amazing people give the CIA or Obama any credibility whatsoever:

White House Approved CIA Hacking Of Senate Computers

According to a report by the CIA Inspector General, the White House was informed of the CIA’s plan to hack US Senate computers to discover what was going to be in the Senate Torture Report. CIA Director John Brennan met with White House chief of staff Denis McDonough then ordered CIA employees to “use whatever means necessary” to find out what Senate investigators knew.

Posted by: Tobin Paz | Mar 8, 2017 2:37:44 PM | 85

Given the serious questions raised in the Open Thread about Circe's anti-Trump campaigning, I think Circe should declassify his name and affiliations . . . and release his tax returns.

Circe has full power to do so. It's really really suspicious that he hasn't done so already.

/sarc <<== shouldn't be necessary, but ...

Seriously, we now know that Obama didn't even need to go through the FISA court. His CIA had all the tools necessary to make an end-run around legal obstacles.

<> <> <> <> <> <> <> <>

I'd like Trump to release his tax returns also, but I'll settle for the shear entertainment of his calling out 'fake news' and kicking Obama-Clinton ass.

Posted by: Jackrabbit | Mar 8, 2017 2:43:44 PM | 86

You see, if everyone can be blackmailed, no one can be blackmailed. The despicable act has to be a secret one, and that has become impossible. That's what it means to say the emperor has no clothes.

Finally, that's what it means.

Back in the day, confessions were not given in secret to a priest in a confessional. They were given out loud, to the entire community of faith. Because there is no man that does not sin, and confessions were simply a recognition of that fact. We are all now, like it or not, confessing our sins electronically at all moments of the day. That's rather a purifying thought, if we look deeply into our hearts. It makes Spartici of us all, which is not what the manipulators, the blackmailers had in mind.

Posted by: juliania | Mar 8, 2017 2:44:13 PM | 87

@82

"Our revenge will be the laughter of our children."

"They have nothing in their whole imperial arsenal that can break the spirit of one Irishman who doesn't want to be broken."

the late Bobby Sands Irish member of Parliment

Posted by: ALberto | Mar 8, 2017 2:45:04 PM | 88

@84

No-no, Trump isn't saying he needs more time; he's kicking it to the Intelligence Committee; but he's the one that either has the proof or has seen it! Otherwise, why would he make such a serious criminal accusation? One cannot morally and legally compare this to Watergate and not cough up the proof? A Republican member of the Intelligence Committee says that Trump can and SHOULD declassify right now, stating the sooner he does it the better.

So, why is he refusing to do so, because Trump said nothing about needing time and Spicer keeps waiving off the question?

Trump can do this merely by picking up the phone and asking for it. There's a reason he's not doing it or even stating he's going to do it. This is not rocket science, his failure to put the proof out there when he has the power to do so right now, stinks.

Posted by: Circe | Mar 8, 2017 2:45:51 PM | 89

@ Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 2:04:12 PM | 77

This cache is completely separate to that divulged by Snowden and the 'Parts' are supposedly sourced from multiple leakers:

Over the last three years the United States intelligence sector, which consists of government agencies such as the CIA and NSA and their contractors, such as Booze Allan Hamilton, has been subject to unprecedented series of data exfiltrations by its own workers.

A number of intelligence community members not yet publicly named have been arrested or subject to federal criminal investigations in separate incidents.

Most visibly, on February 8, 2017 a U.S. federal grand jury indicted Harold T. Martin III with 20 counts of mishandling classified information. The Department of Justice alleged that it seized some 50,000 gigabytes of information from Harold T. Martin III that he had obtained from classified programs at NSA and CIA, including the source code for numerous hacking tools.

Some of the exploits divulged will have already been studied by hackers/criminals and already being employed 'in the wild' as we speak, where they weren't known or already in use. With just a superficial perusal, 'Part 1' material is massive, elements of exploits/vulnerabilities could be attempted almost immediately by script kiddies and individuals with only a modicum of knowledge ...

The exposure of the actual internal policies, procedures, evolution, methodologies & preferred techniques, as well as the organizations cultural 'thinking/train of thought' re decisions made, are invaluable to other State actors.

Given contractors, existing & former, had this material and distributed it widely up to 18(?) months ago, it's guaranteed other State actors had it then and subsequent, too. No question, IMV.

Re Shadow Brokers, the limited tools(only) 'cache' released/offered for 'auction' were from 'Equation group', which is now confirmed as, elements at least, NSA TAO, so that's yet another different source again circa 2013, however, there is some limited overlap with specific tools used by NSA and CIA Cyber as well as Israeli Unit 8200.

Q. Are they corrupt, inept, or both? A. BOTH!

re Apple, Microsoft, Cisco, HP, Intel, AT&T, Sprint, Verizon, etc, they do whatever the Feds tell 'em and anything else stated publicly is just total PR bullshit ... know this from associated personal involvement over many years pre 2000 ... meta-data, phone records, internet logs, utilities records (ie electricity), banking data, were being provided upon mere request (no warrants) from the very first days of the 'net, pre circa 2000 ... 'No questions asked' ... NSA, CIA, FBI, DIA, DEA, Immigration, State Police, etc ... the internal 'Intelligence' units would have dedicated sections/staff with direct, person-to-person, access/channels to the nominated liaison officers within the various corporations. The collection of such for 'Intelligence' is conducted completely separate to that re criminal investigations (faux 'Chinese Firewall'). Yet often used to flesh-out the 'picture', then covertly passed on as a briefing and then the 'Formal' processes are followed to merely confirm what's already known/gathered (illegally) in order to lawfully(?) prosecute/railroad. Routine. Since 9/11 ? Exponential growth, on steroids.

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 8, 2017 2:57:46 PM | 90

I'll admit to railing at the hypocrisy of Normon Solomon over the years, but occasionally like the proverbial broken clock he writes a snark that says most of what deserves saying. Too bad it won't get published as widely as it must, http://www.commondreams.org/views/2017/03/08/lets-give-cia-credit-it-deserves

Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 8, 2017 3:24:05 PM | 91

@ Posted by: karlof1 | Mar 8, 2017 3:24:05 PM | 91

RAOTFLMAO! Was lulled, then unexpectedly completely lost it at the end of the third paragraph ... now busily trying to clean the coffee sprayed on the screen & keyboard ... LOL, brilliantly crafted piece. thank you for sharing.

For months now, our country has endured the tacit denigration of American ingenuity. Countless statements—from elected officials, activist groups, journalists and many others—have ignored our nation’s superb blend of dazzling high-tech capacities and statecraft mendacities.

Fortunately, this week the news about release of illuminating CIA documents by WikiLeaks has begun to give adequate credit where due. And not a moment too soon. For way too long, Russia has been credited with prodigious hacking and undermining of democracy in the United States.

Many Americans have overlooked the U.S. government’s fantastic hacking achievements. This is most unfair and disrespectful to the dedicated men and women of intelligence services like the CIA and NSA. Far from the limelight, they’ve been working diligently to undermine democracy not just overseas but also here at home.

Today, the massive new trove of CIA documents can help to put things in perspective. Maybe now people will grasp that our nation’s undermining of democracy is home-grown and self-actualized. It’s an insult to the ingenious capacities of the United States of America to think that we can’t do it ourselves...

Posted by: Outraged | Mar 8, 2017 3:45:53 PM | 92

@91 karlof

You wanna be careful, that op-ed was not Trump friendly. Its main thrust was that the deep state, FBI and the MSM did Hillary far more harm than it did to the Donald.

And while I'm ranting, it's not a given that the Russians did no hacking just because American intelligence had similar capabilities.

It's not a given that Trump Tower was hacked because Trump says so. It's not a given that Obama did it. Yet we see most comments based on the supposition that these are immutable facts. Wanting something to be true does not make it so.

If Obama wanted to bury Trump before the election all he had to do was get the IRS to leak his tax returns.

Posted by: peter | Mar 8, 2017 3:57:23 PM | 93

http://www.breitbart.com/tech/2017/03/07/wikileaks-cia-uses-stolen-malware-to-attribute-cyberattacks-to-nations-like-russia/

WikiLeaks: CIA Uses ‘Stolen’ Malware to ‘Attribute’ Cyberattacks to Nations Like Russia

Posted by: Rhapsody | Mar 8, 2017 4:21:20 PM | 94

And so the more they collect everything on online folks and the less they know anything on the unplugged running havoc in Afghanistan, Mali, Niger, iraq etc.
Possibly its hard for them to imagine that some ppl live normally without a smartphone or a samsung tv...

Posted by: Mina | Mar 8, 2017 4:31:53 PM | 95

I am sorry guys/gals but it is almost midnight in Germany and b did not put anything out about International Women's Day March 8, 2017. I guess he is celebrating with his family. So he is excused.

So I have few words what's going on in the US. I know it does not apply to Europe so I apologize to Europeans and the practically the rest of the world for the stuff I wrote, they already know very well, while Americans, most of them are clueless.

Interesting in January Million Women"Pussyhat" Marched against misogynistic Trump or what Urban legend says while the facts indicated top down precisely organized AstroTurf operation. Today few almost invisible, meek protest in few locations.


I wonder why?

With all the hype a month ago about massive organizing but unspecified protests and strikes in March and even bedroom strike of the women who are married to Trump supporters nothing but almost complete dead silence in progressive media and especially from comical and hypocritical Dems establishment women who shut up just today when they are needed to speak today more than ever. Although is commendable that TO even mentioned the date what m,any other "progressive" sites failed to even do so.

It is today The international Women’s Day 8 of March 2017 my lovely screaming hysterical Hollywood women. Still nothing but almost complete dead silence from Hollywood professing politically correct love to women.

Why so few participates in the Women's day. May be they are at work, taking care of children, carry the burden of raising family alone or may be, just may be all those women organizers failed to explain to American women what the hell is March 8? Is that a new black Friday, free hairstyle day or worldwide discount on tampons day? What the hell is that?

One must slowly break the news to them since American women have no clue what the "International Women's Day" sanctioned by UN celebrated massively all over the world for about one hundred years now is all about.

American women have no clue that many of those "banned" Muslim countries even in 1950-es celebrated the International Women's Day and that included Iraq and Afghanistan, while in the US a cloud of mass censorship , anti-women terror and McCarthyite propaganda descended to workplaces, schools. city halls and churches called it a "Commie Women's Day" pushing American women into back alleys for abortion, for contraception and denying them economic and social, legal equality enjoyed by women worldwide, yes, even Muslim women,and instead pushed them in a feudal submission to a righteous anti-Communist American man to submit to on a back seat old Chevy as a patriotic feat and shut up for your country.

It this it? Is it why American women have no clue what March 8 is? Because it is supposedly a "commie women's" day?

Wonderful progress of progressive AstroTurf of professional liars and contemptuous influence peddlers with uterus from Media and political establishment who are as much enemy of poor working women as worst misogynistic men, descendants of worshiped anti-communist man of the glorious American past of mayhem and murder and that included American Indian women and children.

Happy Eight of March, American working women. Do not listen to rich bitches of Hollywood and Capitol Hill or Wall Street, deride them as accomplices in crime.

As AN posits: Organizers demand from women a "revolutionary" protest:


"Women take the day off, from paid and unpaid labor
Avoid shopping for one day (with exceptions for small businesses and businesses owned by women and minorities)
Wear red in solidarity with A Day Without a Woman"

I have my own advice to American working women:

Do not beg anymore, do not cry, do not shout, do not plead anymore. Just pick up a pitchfork with your oligarchic boss-pig-rapist name on it and take what yours.

American Woman, Choose.

Posted by: Kalen | Mar 8, 2017 4:41:07 PM | 96

Circe 89
Yep, it stinks. DPDD. Different President, Different Diaper. Trump may never become transparent.

Outraged 90
"out in the wild" That's the scary part. And piss-poor management of resources as usual. The US is like some hapless sport team that works so hard only to shoot itself in the foot at the end. It almost validates the case those against conspiraciea make. (notice I said almost)
For example, I've been through 8 drug tests in the past 12 years (var jobs), psychometric testing, and investigations. And I'm sure that Mr. Martin went through similar (like Pollard, Walker family, Ames, Hanssen) and yet they still screwed the system. There's no substitute for good management.
Israeli Unit 8200 is the one that scares me as much as the NSA/CIA. And it's primarily because of the harm they can do either as corrupt individuals or given corrupt orders from above.
Exponential growth? Reminds me of this:
https://cdn.theculturetrip.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/04/honore-daumier.jpg
Keep feeding the monster ....

Posted by: Curtis | Mar 8, 2017 5:03:30 PM | 97

276 mm2, 'The takeaway I got from that about halfway through was not just the primary damage to the IC, via high crime by the rogue CIA, but mostly the secondary and potentially greater damage to big tech commerce.'

they're all in up to their asses. that was the whole point of the cybersecurity act of 2015, passed in the middle of the night tacked onto THE money bill. they were made immune ... Sec. 106. Protection from liability ... from anything that went wrong ... like this.

i admit that i am amazed at the gullability of the general public ... 1.15 billion spiPhones sold last year ... and the gullability of the some of the manufacturers themselves ... samsung's tvs. although with respect to the latter it's not too difficult to imagine subversion of management by the cia.

google, of course ... and uber and ilk, in the vanguard of the cashless society, would like to make folks the paying appendages of their spiPhones. very good reason to keep news of their complete and utter betrayal 'guiet'. good luck - rather bad, very bad luck - to them on that score.

Posted by: jfl | Mar 8, 2017 5:52:57 PM | 98

When one side in a conflict is approaching defeat, infighting tends to increase exponentially.
Looks like the 'intelligence community' is taking on each other.

Posted by: smuks | Mar 8, 2017 7:42:00 PM | 99

Maybe I can win the Biggest Conspiracy Award tonight with this one. This, if real, would be a real "intelligence community" shocker! Here goes:

"The word is out that Soros is dead. It is being discussed at the Pentagon as well. He was taken out. One by one the Bush/Clinton/crime syndicate is being removed. I will update you as I have more data". -- Benjamin Fulford -- at:
http://benjaminfulford.typepad.com/benjaminfulford/2016/11/i-just-received-this-from-my-white-hat-contact-in-dc-who-is-with-the-agency.html

It may just be more craziness, but life would be less colorful without Fulford. Wonder if it's true?

Posted by: blues | Mar 8, 2017 11:09:01 PM | 100

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